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On 10/1/11 11:25 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:40:47 -0400, X `
wrote:

It is a stupid point. Have you been doing drugs? This guy was the most
articulate terrorist out there. His elimination probably cut into
their recruitment efforts by a considerable amount and THAT saved
American lives.

Yet you still condemn killing a guy who was convicted in court for
killing people in this country and that conviction survives decades of
appeals, any one of which would have set him free.
Are you saying you trust the CIA more than the American judicial
system?

Justice for a black guy in the south?snerk

Harry still thinks the south is the same as it was in the early
1900's....

No he doesn't.

That's correct. There have been some improvements in the quality of life
for people of color in the South but when it comes to the criminal
justice system, blacks accused of capital crimes are less likely than
whites to obtain a competent legal defense. In terms of criminal
justice, Southerners are much more bloodthirsty than non-Southern
Americans. Is it their fundamentalist christianity coming into play?

You don't mean black, you mean poor don't you?

That may be true of your average criminal that ends up taking a plea
for jail time but when it becomes a capital case there has been plenty
of representation for these people for the last 40-50 years. Otherwise
you would not have a 20-30 year appeals process.

Personally I would like to see the appeals process speeded up. It is
not unusual that people eventually can be found innocent if you let a
case get this cold. Evidence disappears, witnesses die, memories fade
and it becomes a lot easier to get reasonable doubt, even for the most
guilty person.

There's an easy answer to eliminate doubt: eliminate capital punishment.

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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

X ` Man

On 10/1/11 4:29 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 11:33:02 -0400, X `
wrote:

You don't mean black, you mean poor don't you?

That may be true of your average criminal that ends up taking a plea
for jail time but when it becomes a capital case there has been plenty
of representation for these people for the last 40-50 years. Otherwise
you would not have a 20-30 year appeals process.

Personally I would like to see the appeals process speeded up. It is
not unusual that people eventually can be found innocent if you let a
case get this cold. Evidence disappears, witnesses die, memories fade
and it becomes a lot easier to get reasonable doubt, even for the most
guilty person.

There's an easy answer to eliminate doubt: eliminate capital punishment.

Then you bump up against the other questions I have asked and are yet
unanswered.

#1
Where is the proportionality if you get the same sentence for running
a pot farm and getting caught a couple times as you get for being a
professional killer with 20 bodies on you?

For that matter you can get life for running a stock scam, like
Bernie.

#2
What is the punishment for a lifer who keeps killing people in prison?

#3
Why shouldn't a robber just kill all of his victims? Fewer witnesses,
potentially the same punishment if he already has a record.

Countries more civilized than the United States have done away with
capital punishment.

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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

iBoaterer[_2_]

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On 10/1/11 4:29 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 11:33:02 -0400, X `
wrote:

You don't mean black, you mean poor don't you?

That may be true of your average criminal that ends up taking a plea
for jail time but when it becomes a capital case there has been plenty
of representation for these people for the last 40-50 years. Otherwise
you would not have a 20-30 year appeals process.

Personally I would like to see the appeals process speeded up. It is
not unusual that people eventually can be found innocent if you let a
case get this cold. Evidence disappears, witnesses die, memories fade
and it becomes a lot easier to get reasonable doubt, even for the most
guilty person.

There's an easy answer to eliminate doubt: eliminate capital punishment.

Then you bump up against the other questions I have asked and are yet
unanswered.

#1
Where is the proportionality if you get the same sentence for running
a pot farm and getting caught a couple times as you get for being a
professional killer with 20 bodies on you?

For that matter you can get life for running a stock scam, like
Bernie.

#2
What is the punishment for a lifer who keeps killing people in prison?

#3
Why shouldn't a robber just kill all of his victims? Fewer witnesses,
potentially the same punishment if he already has a record.

Countries more civilized than the United States have done away with
capital punishment.

You didn't answer the questions, as usual, coward.

X ` Man

On 10/1/11 8:45 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 16:35:21 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 10/1/11 4:29 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 11:33:02 -0400, X `
wrote:

You don't mean black, you mean poor don't you?

That may be true of your average criminal that ends up taking a plea
for jail time but when it becomes a capital case there has been plenty
of representation for these people for the last 40-50 years. Otherwise
you would not have a 20-30 year appeals process.

Personally I would like to see the appeals process speeded up. It is
not unusual that people eventually can be found innocent if you let a
case get this cold. Evidence disappears, witnesses die, memories fade
and it becomes a lot easier to get reasonable doubt, even for the most
guilty person.

There's an easy answer to eliminate doubt: eliminate capital punishment.

Then you bump up against the other questions I have asked and are yet
unanswered.

#1
Where is the proportionality if you get the same sentence for running
a pot farm and getting caught a couple times as you get for being a
professional killer with 20 bodies on you?

For that matter you can get life for running a stock scam, like
Bernie.

#2
What is the punishment for a lifer who keeps killing people in prison?

#3
Why shouldn't a robber just kill all of his victims? Fewer witnesses,
potentially the same punishment if he already has a record.

Countries more civilized than the United States have done away with
capital punishment.

They have more civilized criminals. What did Sweden have? 50 murders
last year? Maybe a half dozen were heinous enough to qualify for the
death penalty in Texas.
Send our death row inmates over to Sweden and lets see how long it
will take until they want to kill them. For that matter just let them
deal with a couple hundred of our "triple life or more" gang bangers
in their prison system

A bit over the edge there on sophistry, eh, fella?

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I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

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