On 6-May-2004, (Eric) wrote:

I can't help but to think that our increasing ability to manipulate
individual atoms will offer significant improvements in all
manufacturing processes.

You watch too much Star Trek. We can only manipulate individual atoms
on an extremely small scale. Manipulating atoms on the scale of
something like a camera lens is not possible now or in the immediate
future. Have you got any idea how many atoms there are in a single
lens element, let alone an entire assembly?

But, if you and others wish to believe that it is impossible to offer a
waterproof, digital camera with a good 10x zoom,

It's possible. But not for less than $500. And as Brian points out,
there's no market for such a camera. Take a look at the market for
waterproof film cameras: Nikonos, Sealife, Sea&Sea, a few others
that are dive cameras and Minolta and a couple of others that are
snorkling cameras. Pentax and a couple of other water resistant
cameras and a pocketful of cheap throw-away cameras. None with a
serious zoom lens. Only the Nikonos is a "serious" camera and
when it was made, it was around $500 for the body alone and AFAIK,
only fixed length lenses were available.

Folks that needed something fancier than those cameras opted for
underwater housings to protect a conventional camera - an option
you've rejected.

I cannot stop you - I simply won't believe you.

Believe what you want. But some of us keep our feet on the ground.

Mike

Michael Daly wrote:

On 6-May-2004, (Eric) wrote:

I can't help but to think that our increasing ability to manipulate
individual atoms will offer significant improvements in all
manufacturing processes.

You watch too much Star Trek.

Indeed I do.

We can only manipulate individual atoms on an extremely small scale.
Manipulating atoms on the scale of something like a camera lens is not
possible now or in the immediate future.

I will agree, but with the caveat that I am not familiar with what is
happening behind all of the tightly closed doors where such research is
going on.

Have you got any idea how many atoms there are in a single
lens element, let alone an entire assembly?

Yep. Doesn't concern me.

I am willing to wait until the camera I want to purchase is made
available to me. I have no desire to own a camera just for the sake of
owning a camera. If this means I won't be able to take pictures, that's
fine...I have gotten along without one up to now and will continue to do
so.

I am curious, why are people so invested in my immediate purchase of a
waterproof, digital camera?

I have made it perfectly clear what I am willing to purchase and that I
will not settle for anything less then what I am looking for...yet,
people keep on telling me that I am wrong and I should follow their
advice instead.

You're welcome to continue to tell me I am wrong, but keep in mind that
one nifty definition of insanity is to perform the same action over and
over and over again, expecting a different result.

On 6-May-2004, (Eric) wrote:

I am willing to wait until the camera I want to purchase is made
available to me. I have no desire to own a camera just for the sake of
owning a camera. If this means I won't be able to take pictures, that's
fine...I have gotten along without one up to now and will continue to do
so.

Then you clearly don't want a camera and we're wasting our time trying to
help you.

people keep on telling me that I am wrong and I should follow their
advice instead.

Let me put it this way. You're not wrong, you're a fool.

Mike

Michael Daly wrote:

On 6-May-2004, (Eric) wrote:

I am willing to wait until the camera I want to purchase is made
available to me. I have no desire to own a camera just for the sake of
owning a camera. If this means I won't be able to take pictures, that's
fine...I have gotten along without one up to now and will continue to do
so.

Then you clearly don't want a camera

Message-ID: t
Date: Wed, 05 May 2004 00:31:08 GMT
No. I have one [a waterproof bag] for my current digital camera
and find it rather annoying.

I'm curious, how could I not want a camera when I already own one with a
waterproof bag for it?

What I don't want is to waste my money on something I essentially
already have. I am only willing to purchase another digital camera when
my current one either can no longer be used or someone makes a
waterproof, digital camera with a good 10x zoom.

My original post was clearly and solely asking if a waterproof, digital
camera with a 10x zoom existed.


and we're wasting our time trying to help you.

Yes, that is quite clear since in order to help me you would have to be
aware of the product I am seeking. Since you are not (because it does
not exist yet), there hasn't been any point to your posts.

Michael Daly wrote:

Let me put it this way. You're not wrong, you're a fool.

Actually, he's a troll. It's time we stopped feeding him. Let the
schmuck wander off and play elsewhere.

Michael Daly wrote:

We can only manipulate individual atoms on an extremely small scale.

Uh...that kind of goes without saying, doesn't it? ;-)