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Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is
equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On 9/3/2011 1:35 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? You move toward the truth like cold molasses. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. I think you're barking at the wrong person. When I said, "I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil," I was basically saying that right-wingers are hypocritical assholes. They take the long weekend, then show up on Tuesday full of hate against organized labor. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Sep 4, 1:39*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement.. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. I think you're barking at the wrong person. When I said, "I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil," I was basically saying that right-wingers are hypocritical assholes. They take the long weekend, then show up on Tuesday full of hate against organized labor. The holiday was instated by the President of the United States, not the president of the AFL-CIO. so where do you get the thought that the unions formed the Labour Day holiday weekend? |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John H
wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. As usual, you have just enough command of the facts to look stupid. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Sep 4, 4:59*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John H wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John H wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John H
wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John H wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Sep 5, 7:24*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John H wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Sep 5, 7:24*pm, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John H wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military So are SS, Medicare, Unemployment benefits. The VA is a gov't run institution, thus it is by definition a form of socialism. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Sep 5, 7:24*pm, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John H wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military ==== Absolutely. It's a form of deferred compensation. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Sep 5, 10:00*pm, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sep 5, 7:24*pm, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John H wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military ==== Absolutely. *It's a form of deferred compensation. So, maybe I can figure this out. If after 30+ years i would retire from a company that offers a retirement account plus a medical package, it is what it is. I retire from a company that offers a retirement account with a medical package. However, if I would retire from the military after 30+ years of service, I am now classified as sucking off the govt. teat and bleeding the VA of socialized medicine.... uh-huh |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On 9/5/11 11:00 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military ==== Absolutely. It's a form of deferred compensation. Maybe it's time to eliminate government medical assistance on new cases to those vets who are not suffering from combat injuries and illnesses. Current non-combat work-related illnesses and injuries should be handled under a system of workers' comp, with the same "generous" benefits available to ordinary non-military workers. We should also eliminate the special military pension program and enroll military personnel in social security. -- I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the powerful. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On 9/6/2011 8:19 AM, Tim wrote:
On Sep 5, 10:00 pm, Wayne wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 5, 7:24 pm, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military ==== Absolutely. It's a form of deferred compensation. So, maybe I can figure this out. If after 30+ years i would retire from a company that offers a retirement account plus a medical package, it is what it is. I retire from a company that offers a retirement account with a medical package. However, if I would retire from the military after 30+ years of service, I am now classified as sucking off the govt. teat and bleeding the VA of socialized medicine.... uh-huh That's the message Harry and his sock puppets send, owing to his fear and hatred of all things military. Plume and her sock puppet will say anything to stir up an argument. There you have it in a nutshell. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On 9/6/11 8:39 AM, BeachBum wrote:
On 9/6/2011 8:19 AM, Tim wrote: On Sep 5, 10:00 pm, Wayne wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 5, 7:24 pm, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military ==== Absolutely. It's a form of deferred compensation. So, maybe I can figure this out. If after 30+ years i would retire from a company that offers a retirement account plus a medical package, it is what it is. I retire from a company that offers a retirement account with a medical package. However, if I would retire from the military after 30+ years of service, I am now classified as sucking off the govt. teat and bleeding the VA of socialized medicine.... uh-huh That's the message Harry and his sock puppets send, owing to his fear and hatred of all things military. Plume and her sock puppet will say anything to stir up an argument. There you have it in a nutshell. According to the Law of GOP, anything the government does in terms of payments to individuals is socialism. -- I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the powerful. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On 9/6/2011 8:37 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/5/11 11:00 PM, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military ==== Absolutely. It's a form of deferred compensation. Maybe it's time to eliminate government medical assistance on new cases to those vets who are not suffering from combat injuries and illnesses. Current non-combat work-related illnesses and injuries should be handled under a system of workers' comp, with the same "generous" benefits available to ordinary non-military workers. We should also eliminate the special military pension program and enroll military personnel in social security. And apply your ideas to congress persons also? |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On 9/6/2011 8:40 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/6/11 8:39 AM, BeachBum wrote: On 9/6/2011 8:19 AM, Tim wrote: On Sep 5, 10:00 pm, Wayne wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 5, 7:24 pm, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military ==== Absolutely. It's a form of deferred compensation. So, maybe I can figure this out. If after 30+ years i would retire from a company that offers a retirement account plus a medical package, it is what it is. I retire from a company that offers a retirement account with a medical package. However, if I would retire from the military after 30+ years of service, I am now classified as sucking off the govt. teat and bleeding the VA of socialized medicine.... uh-huh That's the message Harry and his sock puppets send, owing to his fear and hatred of all things military. Plume and her sock puppet will say anything to stir up an argument. There you have it in a nutshell. According to the Law of GOP, anything the government does in terms of payments to individuals is socialism. Not quite true. Payment of debts public and private is not socialism. Gifts to slackers,cheats and deadbeats is socialism. Gifts to political backers is criminal. Propping up unions and paying their debts is also criminal. In the eyes of the GOP, Most democrats should be in jail for their crimes. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 05:19:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Sep 5, 10:00*pm, Wayne B wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sep 5, 7:24*pm, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John H wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military ==== Absolutely. *It's a form of deferred compensation. So, maybe I can figure this out. If after 30+ years i would retire from a company that offers a retirement account plus a medical package, it is what it is. I retire from a company that offers a retirement account with a medical package. However, if I would retire from the military after 30+ years of service, I am now classified as sucking off the govt. teat and bleeding the VA of socialized medicine.... uh-huh Who said that? The fact is that you collect Social Security? It's call "Social" for a reason. The VA is run by the gov't. Why don't you push for privatizing it? Oh wait, you don't want anyone messing with your benefits. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On 9/6/2011 4:59 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 5, 7:24 pm, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military In this context, "Socialized medicine is a term used to describe a system for providing medical and hospital care for all [veterans] at a nominal cost by means of government regulation of health services and subsidies derived from taxation." Nobody "earns" a lifetime of free healthcare for 4 years of military duty. We have enough civil servants that wear a bullet proof vest for 30 years just to get a retirement and they pay their own way (for life) with respect to healthcare. The VA is, by any reasonable understanding, a textbook example of socialized medicine. Check out the bennies those critters on the hill receive after as little as one term. And then come back to us and admit you are full of **** up to your eyeballs, Ms Plume. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On 9/6/11 5:46 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 9/6/2011 4:59 PM, wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 5, 7:24 pm, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military In this context, "Socialized medicine is a term used to describe a system for providing medical and hospital care for all [veterans] at a nominal cost by means of government regulation of health services and subsidies derived from taxation." Nobody "earns" a lifetime of free healthcare for 4 years of military duty. We have enough civil servants that wear a bullet proof vest for 30 years just to get a retirement and they pay their own way (for life) with respect to healthcare. The VA is, by any reasonable understanding, a textbook example of socialized medicine. Check out the bennies those critters on the hill receive after as little as one term. And then come back to us and admit you are full of **** up to your eyeballs, Ms Plume. The point was over the VA's provision of socialized medicine. You apparently are not capable of a discussion about the issue. No surprise...you aren't intellectually or educationally equipped for such a discussion. Back to your cave. -- I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the powerful. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On 9/6/2011 5:59 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/6/11 5:46 PM, BeachBum wrote: On 9/6/2011 4:59 PM, wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 5, 7:24 pm, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military In this context, "Socialized medicine is a term used to describe a system for providing medical and hospital care for all [veterans] at a nominal cost by means of government regulation of health services and subsidies derived from taxation." Nobody "earns" a lifetime of free healthcare for 4 years of military duty. We have enough civil servants that wear a bullet proof vest for 30 years just to get a retirement and they pay their own way (for life) with respect to healthcare. The VA is, by any reasonable understanding, a textbook example of socialized medicine. Check out the bennies those critters on the hill receive after as little as one term. And then come back to us and admit you are full of **** up to your eyeballs, Ms Plume. The point was over the VA's provision of socialized medicine. You apparently are not capable of a discussion about the issue. No surprise...you aren't intellectually or educationally equipped for such a discussion. Back to your cave. The point IS any bennies metered out to veterans is small potatoes compared to the way those critters on the hill reward themselves. I really don't give a **** how you spin it. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Sep 6, 3:59*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sep 5, 7:24*pm, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John H wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military In this context, "Socialized medicine is a term used to describe a system for providing medical and hospital care for all [veterans] at a nominal cost by means of government regulation of health services and subsidies derived from taxation." Nobody "earns" a lifetime of free healthcare for 4 years of military duty. We have enough civil servants that wear a bullet proof vest for 30 years just to get a retirement and they pay their own way (for life) with respect to healthcare. The VA is, by any reasonable understanding, a textbook example of socialized medicine. That's a comprehensive answer, but I wasn't saying after 4 years. I said retiring with 30+ years. (Military retirement can be activated after 20) I was looking at the difference between a civil retirement package compared to a civilian retirement package, and wondering why the military retirement benefits would be considered as 'socialized' medicine. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On 9/6/11 6:23 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 9/6/2011 5:59 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/6/11 5:46 PM, BeachBum wrote: On 9/6/2011 4:59 PM, wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 5, 7:24 pm, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military In this context, "Socialized medicine is a term used to describe a system for providing medical and hospital care for all [veterans] at a nominal cost by means of government regulation of health services and subsidies derived from taxation." Nobody "earns" a lifetime of free healthcare for 4 years of military duty. We have enough civil servants that wear a bullet proof vest for 30 years just to get a retirement and they pay their own way (for life) with respect to healthcare. The VA is, by any reasonable understanding, a textbook example of socialized medicine. Check out the bennies those critters on the hill receive after as little as one term. And then come back to us and admit you are full of **** up to your eyeballs, Ms Plume. The point was over the VA's provision of socialized medicine. You apparently are not capable of a discussion about the issue. No surprise...you aren't intellectually or educationally equipped for such a discussion. Back to your cave. The point IS any bennies metered out to veterans is small potatoes compared to the way those critters on the hill reward themselves. I really don't give a **** how you spin it. Perhaps that is the point in your unprepared, uneducated, ignorant mind. *The* point is that what vets receive in terms of VA medical care is a form of socialized medicine. The size of the potatoes is not relevant to the discussion of what is or what is not socialism. I know it is difficult for a peabrain like you, but you ought to try to stay on the topic being discussed here. What the VA provides to vets is socialized medicine. -- I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the powerful. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:51:13 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 17:46:43 -0400, BeachBum "not a wrote: On 9/6/2011 4:59 PM, wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 5, 7:24 pm, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military In this context, "Socialized medicine is a term used to describe a system for providing medical and hospital care for all [veterans] at a nominal cost by means of government regulation of health services and subsidies derived from taxation." Nobody "earns" a lifetime of free healthcare for 4 years of military duty. We have enough civil servants that wear a bullet proof vest for 30 years just to get a retirement and they pay their own way (for life) with respect to healthcare. The VA is, by any reasonable understanding, a textbook example of socialized medicine. Check out the bennies those critters on the hill receive after as little as one term. And then come back to us and admit you are full of **** up to your eyeballs, Ms Plume. I'm not Plume, either. Those **** heads on the hill haven't earned their medical coverage OR their pay. And I stick by my statements above. Oh yes you are! Oh wait.... lol Sorry... the righties will take the previous statement as fact, and for that I apologize! |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On 9/6/2011 7:08 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/6/11 6:23 PM, BeachBum wrote: On 9/6/2011 5:59 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/6/11 5:46 PM, BeachBum wrote: On 9/6/2011 4:59 PM, wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 5, 7:24 pm, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military In this context, "Socialized medicine is a term used to describe a system for providing medical and hospital care for all [veterans] at a nominal cost by means of government regulation of health services and subsidies derived from taxation." Nobody "earns" a lifetime of free healthcare for 4 years of military duty. We have enough civil servants that wear a bullet proof vest for 30 years just to get a retirement and they pay their own way (for life) with respect to healthcare. The VA is, by any reasonable understanding, a textbook example of socialized medicine. Check out the bennies those critters on the hill receive after as little as one term. And then come back to us and admit you are full of **** up to your eyeballs, Ms Plume. The point was over the VA's provision of socialized medicine. You apparently are not capable of a discussion about the issue. No surprise...you aren't intellectually or educationally equipped for such a discussion. Back to your cave. The point IS any bennies metered out to veterans is small potatoes compared to the way those critters on the hill reward themselves. I really don't give a **** how you spin it. Perhaps that is the point in your unprepared, uneducated, ignorant mind. *The* point is that what vets receive in terms of VA medical care is a form of socialized medicine. The size of the potatoes is not relevant to the discussion of what is or what is not socialism. I know it is difficult for a peabrain like you, but you ought to try to stay on the topic being discussed here. What the VA provides to vets is socialized medicine. You are a ****ing joke. Why should anyone be required to stay focused on a ridiculous off topic assertion of what is or isn't socialized medicine? Who gives a ****? There's a lot bigger fish to fry. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 16:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Sep 6, 3:59*pm, wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sep 5, 7:24*pm, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John H wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military In this context, "Socialized medicine is a term used to describe a system for providing medical and hospital care for all [veterans] at a nominal cost by means of government regulation of health services and subsidies derived from taxation." Nobody "earns" a lifetime of free healthcare for 4 years of military duty. We have enough civil servants that wear a bullet proof vest for 30 years just to get a retirement and they pay their own way (for life) with respect to healthcare. The VA is, by any reasonable understanding, a textbook example of socialized medicine. That's a comprehensive answer, but I wasn't saying after 4 years. I said retiring with 30+ years. (Military retirement can be activated after 20) I was looking at the difference between a civil retirement package compared to a civilian retirement package, and wondering why the military retirement benefits would be considered as 'socialized' medicine. Well, since Tim is unwilling to either read or respond, I guess he's unaware of what gov't run actually means? |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Sep 6, 6:03*pm, Tim wrote:
On Sep 6, 3:59*pm, wrote: On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sep 5, 7:24*pm, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John H wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military In this context, "Socialized medicine is a term used to describe a system for providing medical and hospital care for all [veterans] at a nominal cost by means of government regulation of health services and subsidies derived from taxation." Nobody "earns" a lifetime of free healthcare for 4 years of military duty. We have enough civil servants that wear a bullet proof vest for 30 years just to get a retirement and they pay their own way (for life) with respect to healthcare. The VA is, by any reasonable understanding, a textbook example of socialized medicine. That's a comprehensive answer, but I wasn't saying after 4 years. I said retiring with 30+ years. (Military retirement can be activated after 20) I was looking at the difference between a civil retirement package compared to a civilian retirement package, and wondering why the military retirement benefits would be considered as 'socialized' medicine. OOPS! I just noticed what i said. let me do that one over I was looking at the difference between a civil retirement package compared to a military retirement package, and wondering why the military retirement benefits would be considered as 'socialized' medicine? correction made. |
Labor Day - on the right wing agenda?
On Tue, 06 Sep 2011 16:59:57 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Sep 5, 7:24*pm, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:02:42 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 08:42:58 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2011 07:58:29 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:44:39 -0400, John H wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:06:20 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 10:35:09 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 09:33:31 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 02 Sep 2011 17:24:00 -0700, wrote: I'm sure they're got plans to not work, since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil. The first big Labor Day in the United States was observed on September 5, 1882, by the Central Labor Union of New York. It became a federal holiday in 1894, when, following the deaths of a number of workers at the hands of the U.S. military and U.S. Marshals during the Pullman Strike, President Grover Cleveland reconciled with the labor movement. Fearing further conflict, legislation making Labor Day a national holiday was rushed through Congress unanimously and signed into law a mere six days after the end of the strike. The September date originally chosen by the CLU of New York and observed by many of the nation's trade unions for the past several years was selected rather than the more widespread International Workers' Day because Cleveland was concerned that observance of the latter would stir up negative emotions linked to the Haymarket Affair, which it had been observed to commemorate. All U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and the territories have made it a statutory holiday. Nice cut-and-paste from Wikipedia, Harry would be so proud of you. Would you like to know the *truth*? Probably not, since it doesn't follow the party line, but here it is: http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/02/opinio...r-day-history/ What I posted is not much difference, so the truth is pretty obvious. It's to celebrate labor. Do you disagree? I absolutely disagree. Are you blinded by your own words? Did you not say, "since honoring labor is equivalent to honoring evil?" Labor day is a National Holiday to remember the labor movement and its dedication to the social and economic achievements of American workers who have made great sacrifices to further the strength, prosperity, and well-being of this country. The labor movement is not more intrinsically evil than the corporations they seek to offset. I think you will agree that a lot more laborers have been killed (percentage wise, if you will) in performing their labor than CEOs. That skyscraper you view, that bridge you cross, and that lock you take you imaginary boat through, were all built at the cost of American labor's blood, sweat, tears, and sometime lives. This is a time when my family takes time to remember the deep sacrifices of our forbears. We wouldn't have the grand life that we have now, without their sacrifice. You spend the day as you wish. Hate if you will, but I'll not agree with you. Go buy a boat, take some time to smell the roses, calm down, get a grip, and come back here when you aren't so angry and full of hate. You will live longer and enjoy life more. Labor Day is a day to remember those who perform or have performed labor. Amen. In your own mind. Fact: http://www.dol.gov/opa/aboutdol/laborday.htm More liberal crap. Of course.. anything from the gov't is bad, but don't mess with your SS and Medicare, right dummy? Don't forget all of that evil socialized medicine he gladly accepts from the VA. That's a new one one me....I didn't realize VA benies were 'socialized' I thought they were earned for serving in the military In this context, "Socialized medicine is a term used to describe a system for providing medical and hospital care for all [veterans] at a nominal cost by means of government regulation of health services and subsidies derived from taxation." Nobody "earns" a lifetime of free healthcare for 4 years of military duty. We have enough civil servants that wear a bullet proof vest for 30 years just to get a retirement and they pay their own way (for life) with respect to healthcare. The VA is, by any reasonable understanding, a textbook example of socialized medicine. You are displaying a horrific lack of knowledge regarding military benefits and those of retired government employees. Do some reading, or just ask. |
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