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On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 09:26:43 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... wrote in message ... On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:16:29 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Facing criminal charges that might have put him in prison for years, Mr. Vieillard pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor count of violating the Lacey Act, and was handed a $17,500 fine and three years probation. " So, he agreed that he violated the law and was fined. I don't understand why you're upset. He did have to plead guilty. -------------------------------------- Obviously you have completely missed the point. The only point is this guy broke the law. Why are defending a smuggler? http://tinyurl.com/3j7qbbm Do want all import laws and endangered species laws made null and void? Anybody with a sense of decency wants to protect endangered species. Does that exclude right-wingers trumping up bogus charges about some "inconvenience" to business? Is it okay with you to let right-wing politics allow species to become extinct? Have some decency! If these guitar and piano sellers could overcome their fetish for endangered species maybe they could educate their customers to rid themselves of the same fetish. There is NO reason for using rosewood or ivory except fetish. If Gibson had a brain they would use a substitute, make it a selling point, and sell more guitars. But they have fetish instead of brain. Change your handle back to Loogy, Kevin. You're still displaying the same amount of sense. |
...what next? Why your guitar of course...
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:10:58 -0400, John H
wrote: John Thomas, a law professor at Quinnipiac University and a blues and ragtime guitarist, says "there's a lot of anxiety, and it's well justified." Once upon a time, he would have taken one of his vintage guitars on his travels. Now, "I don't go out of the country with a wooden guitar." ============================ What nonsense. Does anyone remember voting for a government like this? How did it happen? How do we fix it? Are you leading by example? Good question though. ========= It's not totally off topic. A lot of this governmental nonsense spills over into the world of boating. As an example take a look at the so called Manatee "endangered species" regs, the EPA "no discharge zones" crusade or the Cuban off-limits rules. Our trawler must have at least half a tropical rain forest in it. What if we had to document the origin of every inch of that wood every time we came back into the country like the guitar and piano folks are doing? |
...what next? Why your guitar of course...
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:53:43 -0400, Wayne B
wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:10:58 -0400, John H wrote: John Thomas, a law professor at Quinnipiac University and a blues and ragtime guitarist, says "there's a lot of anxiety, and it's well justified." Once upon a time, he would have taken one of his vintage guitars on his travels. Now, "I don't go out of the country with a wooden guitar." ============================ What nonsense. Does anyone remember voting for a government like this? How did it happen? How do we fix it? Are you leading by example? Good question though. ========= It's not totally off topic. A lot of this governmental nonsense spills over into the world of boating. As an example take a look at the so called Manatee "endangered species" regs, the EPA "no discharge zones" crusade or the Cuban off-limits rules. Our trawler must have at least half a tropical rain forest in it. What if we had to document the origin of every inch of that wood every time we came back into the country like the guitar and piano folks are doing? What if the moon were made out of cheese? |
...what next? Why your guitar of course...
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 08:04:29 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message .. . On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:16:29 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: Facing criminal charges that might have put him in prison for years, Mr. Vieillard pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor count of violating the Lacey Act, and was handed a $17,500 fine and three years probation. " So, he agreed that he violated the law and was fined. I don't understand why you're upset. He did have to plead guilty. -------------------------------------- Obviously you have completely missed the point. Obviously, I didn't. He pled guilty. That's the point. If he was innocent, he should have fought it. I believe in plea bargains when the person pleading knows that it's easy for the prosecutor to prove his case. I don't believe in them when the defendant is pushed into it because the lawyer is lazy or too busy. |
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On 8/30/2011 3:41 PM, iBoatMore wrote:
In , says... On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 08:04:29 -0400, wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:16:29 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Facing criminal charges that might have put him in prison for years, Mr. Vieillard pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor count of violating the Lacey Act, and was handed a $17,500 fine and three years probation. " So, he agreed that he violated the law and was fined. I don't understand why you're upset. He did have to plead guilty. -------------------------------------- Obviously you have completely missed the point. Obviously, I didn't. He pled guilty. That's the point. If he was innocent, he should have fought it. I believe in plea bargains when the person pleading knows that it's easy for the prosecutor to prove his case. I don't believe in them when the defendant is pushed into it because the lawyer is lazy or too busy. Just because someone chose not to fight the charges doesn't mean that he's guilty. She is Soooo naive. |
...what next? Why your guitar of course...
On 8/30/2011 1:53 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:10:58 -0400, John wrote: John Thomas, a law professor at Quinnipiac University and a blues and ragtime guitarist, says "there's a lot of anxiety, and it's well justified." Once upon a time, he would have taken one of his vintage guitars on his travels. Now, "I don't go out of the country with a wooden guitar." ============================ What nonsense. Does anyone remember voting for a government like this? How did it happen? How do we fix it? Are you leading by example? Good question though. ========= It's not totally off topic. A lot of this governmental nonsense spills over into the world of boating. As an example take a look at the so called Manatee "endangered species" regs, the EPA "no discharge zones" crusade or the Cuban off-limits rules. Our trawler must have at least half a tropical rain forest in it. What if we had to document the origin of every inch of that wood every time we came back into the country like the guitar and piano folks are doing? I would watch very carefully for something like that. It could really cause a huge problem.. |
...what next? Why your guitar of course...
On Aug 30, 2:31*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:53:43 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2011 13:10:58 -0400, John H wrote: John Thomas, a law professor at Quinnipiac University and a blues and ragtime guitarist, says "there's a lot of anxiety, and it's well justified." Once upon a time, he would have taken one of his vintage guitars on his travels. Now, "I don't go out of the country with a wooden guitar." ============================ What nonsense. *Does anyone remember voting for a government like this? * How did it happen? *How do we fix it? Are you leading by example? Good question though. ========= It's not totally off topic. *A lot of this governmental nonsense spills over into the world of boating. * As an example take a look at the so called Manatee "endangered species" regs, *the EPA "no discharge zones" crusade or the Cuban off-limits rules. Our trawler must have at least half a tropical rain forest in it. What if we had to document the origin of every inch of that wood every time we came back into the country like the guitar and piano folks are doing? What if the moon were made out of cheese? You would be craving to devour it... |
...what next? Why your guitar of course...
On Aug 30, 7:32*am, X ~ Man wrote:
On 8/29/11 9:21 PM, Tim wrote: On Aug 29, 8:16 pm, *wrote: On Aug 26, 8:48 am, *wrote: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57653052047122.... This **** is getting old. This is only one part of the article that gets me, Scott. "Consider the recent experience of Pascal Vieillard, whose Atlanta- area company, A-440 Pianos, imported several antique Bösendorfers. Mr. |
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