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wf3h[_2_] August 26th 11 11:08 PM

Obama debt enslavement of America
 
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:41:15 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 25/08/2011 3:24 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:26:09 -0600,
wrote:


and payroll taxes are paid only on the 1st 106,000

you're too stupid to know this.


If you add wages plus payroll axes over the last 30 years, people got
the raises just that government got it in payroll taxes.


i notice you ignore the fact the right wing favors tax slavery

but only for the middle class


You are right. Independent investors and self made don't pay much in
employment taxes as they don't need employment.

Work hard, save some money and invest wisely, any you too wouldn't have
to work. But that is beyond your small fleabagger mind, too much work 4 u.


i worked hard. i saved money for 30 years

and in 1 year wall street destroyed 30% of it.

the parasites on wall street did this to 100M hard working americans
because wall street is the home of greed

and the right loves it

wf3h[_2_] August 26th 11 11:10 PM

Obama debt enslavement of America
 
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:02:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 26/08/2011 3:35 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:09:59 -0600,
wrote:

On 25/08/2011 7:53 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 21:18:10 -0400, wrote:


and the rich pay taxes at HALF the rate normal americans do

so tell me what has paris hilton done to make america a better place?


I am sure Paris pays taxes from entertainment income unless she is just
living off of daddys money that is already tax paid money.


and you're a bit stupid so dont realize she has

capital gains on current investments that are taxed at 1/2 the rate
normal americans pay

but you hate the middle class...

Leona Helmsley wound up in jail for it and paying for it.i


yeah after a huge outcry. and today the right would hail her as a
hero. hell, ronald reagan raised taxes 11 times.

but the right wants to destroy the middle class


But unlike you, she did pay a lot of taxes and left a big trust ($3.3
billion) for health and medical research, human services, education, and
conservation. Which of course was tax deductible but far better use of
the money than US war machine killing.


after, of course, she was

dead.

and war killing machine?

you mean like

bush used in iraq that spent a trillion?

oh. bush is your hero.


All you are is a selfish, greedy, envious self serving slug hanging on
like a leach. When you die, who will benefit? Likely the taxpayer.


yeah im selfish

i'm middle class. i work for a living

to the right wing that's the epitome of greed


wf3h[_2_] August 26th 11 11:27 PM

Obama debt enslavement of America
 
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:08:09 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 26/08/2011 3:36 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:15:09 -0600,
wrote:



Real no bull**** inflation is 5% or more, so why is Obama borrowing it
for less than 1%? That is over a 4% value loss every year to fleabagger
presidential and bankers greed.


notice he gives no references for his right wing bull****


DC not running a balanced budget is a crime against Americans. It just
****s America's future for the greed of debt today.


debt isnt the problem

jobs are the problem

and the right is working hard to destroy american jobs


You are one stupid fleabagger. Debt/inflation causes unemployment.


wrong. inflation does not cause unemployment ACCELERATING inflation
does. in fact there's even a measure called NAIRU...the non
accelerating interest rate of unemployment.

debt does NOT cause uneployment. LACK OF DEMAND does. you're too
stupid...never having taken a course in economics. you get all your
reader's digest view of economics from rush and glen

that's why you're right wing.



Government doesn't create jobs, business does.


wrong. so you telling me that if we eliminated all defense spending

no one would lose their jobs???
HAHAHAHAHAH!!!


1 in 4 now work for the government directly or indirectly, these are
consumption jobs. And consumption jobs have no long term value, and in
fact scare businesses away from the threat of hyper-taxation rape. Hey,
why buy a plant and equipment if the local city/state/fed is going to
tax screw you?


and between 2007 and 2010, 47% of ALL FEDERAL JOBS

were created

in TEXAS

gee. rick perry's a lying scumbag who fools morons

like you

you socialists keep cuttng taxes on the rich

and look what they did with it!


Canuck57[_9_] August 26th 11 11:30 PM

Obama debt enslavement of America
 
On 26/08/2011 4:08 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:41:15 -0600,
wrote:

On 25/08/2011 3:24 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:26:09 -0600,
wrote:


and payroll taxes are paid only on the 1st 106,000

you're too stupid to know this.


If you add wages plus payroll axes over the last 30 years, people got
the raises just that government got it in payroll taxes.

i notice you ignore the fact the right wing favors tax slavery

but only for the middle class


You are right. Independent investors and self made don't pay much in
employment taxes as they don't need employment.

Work hard, save some money and invest wisely, any you too wouldn't have
to work. But that is beyond your small fleabagger mind, too much work 4 u.


i worked hard. i saved money for 30 years

and in 1 year wall street destroyed 30% of it.


No, you had a dumb**** as an investment advisor (you). I only lost 15%
but with cash in hand I bought in and made 25+% two years in a row after
that. I am up over 65% from 2006. 2009 Q1 was one hell of a once in a
lifetime buying opportunity presented to us by the liberal ponzi fraud
government and bankers.

Hey, what part of buying low and sell high do you not understand? Bet
you did he opposite.

Average in on lows, average out on highs. By the end of 2010 I was
selling for some juicy gains. So had lots of cash from this one too.
By 10,000 shares at $9.25 and sell at $11. And my stupid banker wonders
why I don't do value loss T-bills and CSBs....

Had my shortest trade ever this last week. Bought 5000 shares at $10.05
on the 22nd, sold 3000 today at $11.11. A new position and never got
burned taking a profit. Pays a 5% dividend if I hold them long enough.
Hey, 90% of the money is made in 10% of the time. Look it up. Stop
reading fleabagger material and forget their bull****.

But you must like self pity and whining. But the fact is that it does
not pay daddy.

the parasites on wall street did this to 100M hard working americans
because wall street is the home of greed

and the right loves it



--
If it is all Bush's fault, then how come Obama is doing much more of the
same and expecting different results?

JustWaitAFrekinMinute! August 26th 11 11:34 PM

Obama debt enslavement of America
 
On Aug 26, 6:08*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:41:15 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:









On 25/08/2011 3:24 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:26:09 -0600,
wrote:


and payroll taxes are paid only on the 1st 106,000


you're too stupid to know this.


If you add wages plus payroll axes over the last 30 years, people got
the raises just that government got it in payroll taxes.


i notice you ignore the fact the right wing favors tax slavery


but only for the middle class


You are right. *Independent investors and self made don't pay much in
employment taxes as they don't need employment.


Work hard, save some money and invest wisely, any you too wouldn't have
to work. *But that is beyond your small fleabagger mind, too much work 4 u.


i worked hard. i saved money for 30 years

and in 1 year wall street destroyed 30% of it.

the parasites on wall street did this to 100M hard working americans
because wall street is the home of greed

and the right loves it


You are such a ****ing idiot... We saved our money and worked hard,
instead of stock we sunk extra payments to our mortgage for 15 years,
had it nearly paid off, tripled our money with equity. Then Barney
Frank, Barak Obama, John Kerrey, Chris Dodd sold the middle class out
for some nice mortages for themselves and their friends... Now our
investment is worth ****... Yup, The Parasite Northeast Democrats did
this to us, and the left loves it...

wf3h[_2_] August 26th 11 11:34 PM

Obama debt enslavement of America
 
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:30:23 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 26/08/2011 4:08 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:41:15 -0600,
wrote:


You are right. Independent investors and self made don't pay much in
employment taxes as they don't need employment.

Work hard, save some money and invest wisely, any you too wouldn't have
to work. But that is beyond your small fleabagger mind, too much work 4 u.


i worked hard. i saved money for 30 years

and in 1 year wall street destroyed 30% of it.


No, you had a dumb**** as an investment advisor (you).


HHAHAHAHA what an IDIOT. the TOTAL WORTH OF AMERICA declined by TEN
TRILLION DOLLARS in 3 years!

canuck, apparently, thinks i'm worth 10 trillion!!

typical right wing moron!


I only lost 15%
but with cash in hand I bought in and made 25+% two years in a row after
that.


no one gives a **** about your little reader's digest stories. i work
for a living

But you must like self pity and whining. But the fact is that it does
not pay daddy.


tell you what, i'll take back a trillon of the 10 trillion you said i
had!!


Canuck57[_9_] August 26th 11 11:47 PM

Obama debt enslavement of America
 
On 26/08/2011 4:27 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:08:09 -0600,
wrote:

On 26/08/2011 3:36 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:15:09 -0600,
wrote:



Real no bull**** inflation is 5% or more, so why is Obama borrowing it
for less than 1%? That is over a 4% value loss every year to fleabagger
presidential and bankers greed.

notice he gives no references for his right wing bull****


DC not running a balanced budget is a crime against Americans. It just
****s America's future for the greed of debt today.

debt isnt the problem

jobs are the problem

and the right is working hard to destroy american jobs


You are one stupid fleabagger. Debt/inflation causes unemployment.


wrong. inflation does not cause unemployment ACCELERATING inflation
does. in fact there's even a measure called NAIRU...the non
accelerating interest rate of unemployment.

debt does NOT cause uneployment. LACK OF DEMAND does. you're too
stupid...never having taken a course in economics. you get all your
reader's digest view of economics from rush and glen

that's why you're right wing.



Government doesn't create jobs, business does.


wrong. so you telling me that if we eliminated all defense spending

no one would lose their jobs???
HAHAHAHAHAH!!!


1 in 4 now work for the government directly or indirectly, these are
consumption jobs. And consumption jobs have no long term value, and in
fact scare businesses away from the threat of hyper-taxation rape. Hey,
why buy a plant and equipment if the local city/state/fed is going to
tax screw you?


and between 2007 and 2010, 47% of ALL FEDERAL JOBS

were created

in TEXAS

gee. rick perry's a lying scumbag who fools morons

like you

you socialists keep cuttng taxes on the rich

and look what they did with it!


Yep, and that si why the USA is failing. Everyone working for
government means nothing gets done. All debt funded so your grand kids
can pay for your greed of debt.


--
If it is all Bush's fault, then how come Obama is doing much more of the
same and expecting different results?

X ` Man August 26th 11 11:54 PM

Obama debt enslavement of America
 
On 8/26/11 6:34 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Aug 26, 6:08 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:41:15 -0600,
wrote:









On 25/08/2011 3:24 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:26:09 -0600,
wrote:


and payroll taxes are paid only on the 1st 106,000


you're too stupid to know this.


If you add wages plus payroll axes over the last 30 years, people got
the raises just that government got it in payroll taxes.


i notice you ignore the fact the right wing favors tax slavery


but only for the middle class


You are right. Independent investors and self made don't pay much in
employment taxes as they don't need employment.


Work hard, save some money and invest wisely, any you too wouldn't have
to work. But that is beyond your small fleabagger mind, too much work 4 u.


i worked hard. i saved money for 30 years

and in 1 year wall street destroyed 30% of it.

the parasites on wall street did this to 100M hard working americans
because wall street is the home of greed

and the right loves it


You are such a ****ing idiot... We saved our money and worked hard,
instead of stock we sunk extra payments to our mortgage for 15 years,
had it nearly paid off, tripled our money with equity. Then Barney
Frank, Barak Obama, John Kerrey, Chris Dodd sold the middle class out
for some nice mortages for themselves and their friends... Now our
investment is worth ****... Yup, The Parasite Northeast Democrats did
this to us, and the left loves it...



snerk


Which mortgage is that? The one on the house you inherited from your
father or the one on the one bedroom house you lived in before your
father died?


--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.

X ` Man August 26th 11 11:59 PM

Obama debt enslavement of America
 
On 8/26/11 6:54 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 8/26/11 6:34 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Aug 26, 6:08 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 14:41:15 -0600,
wrote:









On 25/08/2011 3:24 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:26:09 -0600,
wrote:

and payroll taxes are paid only on the 1st 106,000

you're too stupid to know this.

If you add wages plus payroll axes over the last 30 years, people got
the raises just that government got it in payroll taxes.

i notice you ignore the fact the right wing favors tax slavery

but only for the middle class

You are right. Independent investors and self made don't pay much in
employment taxes as they don't need employment.

Work hard, save some money and invest wisely, any you too wouldn't have
to work. But that is beyond your small fleabagger mind, too much
work 4 u.

i worked hard. i saved money for 30 years

and in 1 year wall street destroyed 30% of it.

the parasites on wall street did this to 100M hard working americans
because wall street is the home of greed

and the right loves it


You are such a ****ing idiot... We saved our money and worked hard,
instead of stock we sunk extra payments to our mortgage for 15 years,
had it nearly paid off, tripled our money with equity. Then Barney
Frank, Barak Obama, John Kerrey, Chris Dodd sold the middle class out
for some nice mortages for themselves and their friends... Now our
investment is worth ****... Yup, The Parasite Northeast Democrats did
this to us, and the left loves it...



snerk


Which mortgage is that? The one on the house you inherited from your
father or the one on the one bedroom house you lived in before your
father died?


ER, one bathroom house, not one bedroom. Which house had the motorbike
stored in the kitchen?

--
I'd much rather be a champion of the powerless than a lickspittle of the
powerful.

[email protected] August 27th 11 12:14 AM

Obama debt enslavement of America
 
On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 15:15:09 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 25/08/2011 7:53 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 21:18:10 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:10:51 -0700,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:24:36 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:26:09 -0600,
wrote:

On 24/08/2011 6:53 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:16:00 -0600,
wrote:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...onal-debt.html

Obama now the world record debt rate spender.


the GOP wants to increase payroll taxes on the middle class but cut
them on the wealthy

and the right wing thinks it's the darkie's fault

Payroll taxes is the only way to get everybody in a non-deductible way,
and since everybody benefits....a fair tax.

uh so would increasing capital gains taxes on the rich, idiot

and payroll taxes are paid only on the 1st 106,000

you're too stupid to know this.


If you add wages plus payroll axes over the last 30 years, people got
the raises just that government got it in payroll taxes.

i notice you ignore the fact the right wing favors tax slavery

but only for the middle class

If the cap on the payroll tax were lifted, that would pretty much
solve the deficit. Of course, the right wing is against raising taxes
on high earners.

That is bull****.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/09in11si.xls

Look at the total gross income of everyone making 100k all sources
and you see the total amount is $2,931,956,820

So if you taxed every dime they reported from all sources (not just
wages) at an additional 50% it would just about cover the deficit but
that is in addition to the taxes they pay now.

This is a spending problem, not just a revenue problem.

I know you are not willing to do a "ton" of research but this was
about 3 minutes with dBase.


You're right. I was thinking SS shortfall, not the debt.

However, that would take SS off the table for right wing nonsense
arguments.


SS is short from years of government fleabagger corruption and fraud.

Real no bull**** inflation is 5% or more, so why is Obama borrowing it
for less than 1%? That is over a 4% value loss every year to fleabagger
presidential and bankers greed.

All Obama has to do is say pay SS a fair rate if he wants to borrow it.
Say inflation is 5%, then pay 6 or 7%. Instead Obama chooses
Keynes/Bernanke fraud as no one in DC want to actually pay bills with
real money. They would rather have big fat overspending up your ass
government by enslaving your grand kids with your debt greed today.

DC not running a balanced budget is a crime against Americans. It just
****s America's future for the greed of debt today.


I think you're congenitally stupid, since it's not possible to fake
this level of stupidity.


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