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X ~ Man August 22nd 11 11:13 PM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate thanyou do...
 
1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only
paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate
from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS
last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a
bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly
$1 trillion.

3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26
billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion
refund from the IRS.

4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year
after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon
to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS
last year.

6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68
billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from
the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax
break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in
taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an
almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.

8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but
paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from
the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United
States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received
$451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction.

10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11
billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years
was just 1.1 percent.

From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.

Canuck57[_9_] August 22nd 11 11:44 PM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower ratethan you do...
 
On 22/08/2011 4:13 PM, X ~ Man wrote:
1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only paid
no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate from
the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS last
year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a bailout
from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly $1 trillion.

3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26 billion in
profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion refund from the
IRS.

4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year after it
made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon to
build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS last
year.

6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68 billion
in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from the IRS
and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax break
from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in taxes
even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an almost
$800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.

8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but paid no
federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from the
Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United States,
made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received $451
million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction.

10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11
billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years
was just 1.1 percent.

From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.


Funny, you can't tax companies on money they don't make. But you have
mixed in companies that make no money, bailouts and Obama's "hidden
corruption" that the administration has black holed moneys no one knows
where it went. Maybe ask Obama why he does not disclose where all the
money went?

But agree, bailouts, corruption....get rid of it all. While Bush
started it, Obama is bankrupting the USA with it. Time to call it
CORRUPTION and get rid of Obama.

As for Obama excuses, remember he had 2 years of a majority democrat
senate and congress. Fact is Obama is all mouth loaded with excuses but
the buffoon can't walk the walk. Just a jive talking corrupt bull****er.

Best part, the poor like you can begin to pay you fair share as oil/gas
prices at the pump go up. Time to shake off the freeloaders. ;)
--
We have the most expensive governments no one can afford.
And wonder why the economy is doing so poorly?

BeachBum[_2_] August 22nd 11 11:44 PM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower ratethan you do...
 
On 8/22/2011 6:13 PM, X ~ Man wrote:
1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only paid
no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate from
the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS last
year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a bailout
from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly $1 trillion.

3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26 billion in
profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion refund from the
IRS.

4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year after it
made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon to
build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS last
year.

6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68 billion
in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from the IRS
and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax break
from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in taxes
even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an almost
$800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.

8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but paid no
federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from the
Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United States,
made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received $451
million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction.

10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11
billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years
was just 1.1 percent.

From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.


It's not our fault that you don't understand new math and fuzzy logic.
You should have applied yourself more in school. Ta Ta asshole.

Canuck57[_9_] August 22nd 11 11:47 PM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower ratethan you do...
 
On 22/08/2011 4:13 PM, X ~ Man wrote:
1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only paid
no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate from
the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS last
year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a bailout
from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly $1 trillion.

3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26 billion in
profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion refund from the
IRS.

4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year after it
made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon to
build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS last
year.

6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68 billion
in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from the IRS
and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax break
from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in taxes
even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an almost
$800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.

8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but paid no
federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from the
Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United States,
made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received $451
million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction.

10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11
billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years
was just 1.1 percent.

From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.


One more point, add this to your scrap book. No one should trust Obama,
he will shake your hand and then bomb you if you don't kiss his
egalitarian pompous ass.

http://drudgereport.com/omg.jpg

Want to know who Obama answers too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY

That is why Hilary has a Saudi raise American Weiner as an aide.
--
We have the most expensive governments no one can afford.
And wonder why the economy is doing so poorly?

BAR[_2_] August 23rd 11 12:18 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
In article ,
says...

1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only
paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate
from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS
last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a
bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly
$1 trillion.

3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26
billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion
refund from the IRS.

4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year
after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon
to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS
last year.

6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68
billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from
the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax
break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in
taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an
almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.

8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but
paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from
the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United
States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received
$451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction.

10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11
billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years
was just 1.1 percent.

From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.


How come GE isn't on the list?


X ~ Man August 23rd 11 12:22 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower ratethan you do...
 
On 8/22/11 7:18 PM, BAR wrote:
In articled42dndoxjIkcSc_TnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only
paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate
from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS
last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a
bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly
$1 trillion.

3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26
billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion
refund from the IRS.

4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year
after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon
to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS
last year.

6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68
billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from
the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax
break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in
taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an
almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.

8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but
paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from
the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United
States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received
$451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction.

10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11
billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years
was just 1.1 percent.

From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.


How come GE isn't on the list?



Hehehe...ill-educated moron.
Look again.


JustWaitAFrekinMinute! August 23rd 11 12:23 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower ratethan you do...
 
On Aug 22, 7:18*pm, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...











1) * * *Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. *Exxon not only
paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate
from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.


2) * * *Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS
last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a
bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly
$1 trillion.


3) * * *Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26
billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion
refund from the IRS.


4) * * *Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year
after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.


5) * * *Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon
to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS
last year.


6) * * *Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68
billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from
the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax
break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.


7) * * *Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in
taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an
almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.


X ~ Man August 23rd 11 12:24 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower ratethan you do...
 
On 8/22/11 7:23 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Aug 22, 7:18 pm, wrote:
In articled42dndoxjIkcSc_TnZ2dnUVZ_oGdn...@earthlink .com,
says...











1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only
paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate
from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.


2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS
last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a
bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly
$1 trillion.


3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26
billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion
refund from the IRS.


4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year
after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.


5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon
to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS
last year.


6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68
billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from
the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax
break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.


7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in
taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an
almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.


8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but
paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from
the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.


9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United
States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received
$451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction.


10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11

Z billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years
was just 1.1 percent.


From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.


How come GE isn't on the list?


Harry is doing the political shill thing.. the group is ****ed until
november of next year as he brings us his agenda on overdrive...



This group has been "****ed" since you and your trashy right-wingers
turned it into crap.


--
Don't forget to leave a bit of beef for rec.boat's right-wing
conservatrashers and ID spoofers to feed upon. The more they feed, the
quicker rec.boats will fall into the black hole of cyberspace and disappear.

Canuck57[_9_] August 23rd 11 12:26 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower ratethan you do...
 
On 22/08/2011 5:18 PM, BAR wrote:
In articled42dndoxjIkcSc_TnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only
paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate
from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS
last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a
bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly
$1 trillion.

3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26
billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion
refund from the IRS.

4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year
after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon
to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS
last year.

6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68
billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from
the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax
break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in
taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an
almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.

8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but
paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from
the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United
States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received
$451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction.

10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11
billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years
was just 1.1 percent.

From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.


How come GE isn't on the list?


Because your dealing with fleabagger material.

--
We have the most expensive governments no one can afford.
And wonder why the economy is doing so poorly?

Canuck57[_9_] August 23rd 11 12:27 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower ratethan you do...
 
On 22/08/2011 5:24 PM, X ~ Man wrote:
On 8/22/11 7:23 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Aug 22, 7:18 pm, wrote:
In articled42dndoxjIkcSc_TnZ2dnUVZ_oGdn...@earthlink .com,
says...











1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only
paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million
rebate
from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS
last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a
bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly
$1 trillion.

3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26
billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion
refund from the IRS.

4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year
after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon
to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS
last year.

6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68
billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check
from
the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax
break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in
taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an
almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury
Department.

8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but
paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from
the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United
States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but
received
$451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing
deduction.

10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11
Z billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those
years
was just 1.1 percent.

From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.

How come GE isn't on the list?


Harry is doing the political shill thing.. the group is ****ed until
november of next year as he brings us his agenda on overdrive...



This group has been "****ed" since you and your trashy right-wingers
turned it into crap.


****ed yes, but it is the fleabeggars, the money for nothing corrupt
greed leftie ass holes. Your just a government dependent selfish slug.

--
We have the most expensive governments no one can afford.
And wonder why the economy is doing so poorly?

X ~ Man August 23rd 11 01:09 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower ratethan you do...
 
On 8/22/11 7:26 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 22/08/2011 5:18 PM, BAR wrote:
In articled42dndoxjIkcSc_TnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only
paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate
from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS
last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a
bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly
$1 trillion.

3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26
billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion
refund from the IRS.

4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year
after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon
to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS
last year.

6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68
billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from
the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax
break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in
taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an
almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury
Department.

8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but
paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from
the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United
States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received
$451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing
deduction.

10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11
billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years
was just 1.1 percent.

From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.


How come GE isn't on the list?


Because your dealing with fleabagger material.


You must have been one crappy bookkeeper. You're the second or third
right-wing moron who has demonstrated an inability to read. Here's a
hint: GE is the initialism for General Electric.

Stupid schmucks.

[email protected] August 23rd 11 01:13 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 16:47:33 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/08/2011 4:13 PM, X ~ Man wrote:
1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only paid
no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate from
the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS last
year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a bailout
from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly $1 trillion.

3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26 billion in
profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion refund from the
IRS.

4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year after it
made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon to
build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS last
year.

6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68 billion
in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from the IRS
and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax break
from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in taxes
even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an almost
$800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.

8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but paid no
federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from the
Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United States,
made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received $451
million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction.

10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11
billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years
was just 1.1 percent.

From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.


One more point, add this to your scrap book. No one should trust Obama,
he will shake your hand and then bomb you if you don't kiss his
egalitarian pompous ass.

http://drudgereport.com/omg.jpg

Want to know who Obama answers too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY

That is why Hilary has a Saudi raise American Weiner as an aide.


The Drudge Report?? That's where morons get their news. No, I mean
seriously stupid people like you.

[email protected] August 23rd 11 01:13 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 19:22:26 -0400, X ~ Man
wrote:

On 8/22/11 7:18 PM, BAR wrote:
In articled42dndoxjIkcSc_TnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only
paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate
from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS
last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a
bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly
$1 trillion.

3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26
billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion
refund from the IRS.

4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year
after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon
to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS
last year.

6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68
billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from
the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax
break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in
taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an
almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.

8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but
paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from
the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United
States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received
$451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction.

10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11
billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years
was just 1.1 percent.

From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.


How come GE isn't on the list?



Hehehe...ill-educated moron.
Look again.


Can't read, can't think... just about sums up the right-wing nutcases
here.

[email protected] August 23rd 11 01:14 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 17:26:30 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/08/2011 5:18 PM, BAR wrote:
In articled42dndoxjIkcSc_TnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only
paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate
from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS
last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a
bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly
$1 trillion.

3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26
billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion
refund from the IRS.

4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year
after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon
to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS
last year.

6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68
billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from
the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax
break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in
taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an
almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.

8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but
paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from
the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United
States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received
$451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction.

10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11
billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years
was just 1.1 percent.

From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.


How come GE isn't on the list?


Because your dealing with fleabagger material.


You and BAR need to get a room in the Stupid Hotel.

BAR[_2_] August 23rd 11 02:13 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
In article a6f56113-cd60-4813-9e33-5d2d965a28d1
@t30g2000prm.googlegroups.com, says...

On Aug 22, 7:18*pm, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...











1) * * *Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. *Exxon not only
paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate
from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.


2) * * *Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS
last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a
bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly
$1 trillion.


3) * * *Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26
billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion
refund from the IRS.


4) * * *Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year
after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.


5) * * *Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon
to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS
last year.


6) * * *Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68
billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from
the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax
break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.


7) * * *Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in
taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an
almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.


8) * * *Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but
paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from
the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.


9) * * *ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United
States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received
$451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction.


10) *Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11

Z billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years
was just 1.1 percent.


*From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.


How come GE isn't on the list?


Harry is doing the political shill thing.. the group is ****ed until
november of next year as he brings us his agenda on overdrive...


It appears that Obama and Ron Paul are polling neck and neck. A left
wing communist and a libertarian, who would have thought it possible.

Canuck57[_9_] August 23rd 11 02:42 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower ratethan you do...
 
On 22/08/2011 7:13 PM, BAR wrote:
In articlea6f56113-cd60-4813-9e33-5d2d965a28d1
@t30g2000prm.googlegroups.com, says...

On Aug 22, 7:18 pm, wrote:
In articled42dndoxjIkcSc_TnZ2dnUVZ_oGdn...@earthlink .com,
says...











1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only
paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate
from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS
last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a
bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly
$1 trillion.

3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26
billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion
refund from the IRS.

4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year
after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon
to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS
last year.

6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68
billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from
the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax
break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in
taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an
almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.

8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but
paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from
the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United
States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received
$451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction.

10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11
Z billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years
was just 1.1 percent.

From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.

How come GE isn't on the list?


Harry is doing the political shill thing.. the group is ****ed until
november of next year as he brings us his agenda on overdrive...


It appears that Obama and Ron Paul are polling neck and neck. A left
wing communist and a libertarian, who would have thought it possible.


Such a vote would come down to whether or not American voters want their
economic liberty....or what is left of it under Obama.
--
We have the most expensive governments no one can afford.
And wonder why the economy is doing so poorly?

[email protected] August 23rd 11 03:13 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:13:18 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article a6f56113-cd60-4813-9e33-5d2d965a28d1
, says...

On Aug 22, 7:18*pm, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...











1) * * *Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. *Exxon not only
paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate
from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2) * * *Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS
last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a
bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly
$1 trillion.

3) * * *Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26
billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion
refund from the IRS.

4) * * *Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year
after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

5) * * *Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon
to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS
last year.

6) * * *Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68
billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from
the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax
break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

7) * * *Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in
taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an
almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury Department.

8) * * *Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but
paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from
the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) * * *ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United
States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received
$451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing deduction.

10) *Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11
Z billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years
was just 1.1 percent.

*From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.

How come GE isn't on the list?


Harry is doing the political shill thing.. the group is ****ed until
november of next year as he brings us his agenda on overdrive...


It appears that Obama and Ron Paul are polling neck and neck. A left
wing communist and a libertarian, who would have thought it possible.


It appears that Paul has, as usual, zero chance of even getting the
nomination.

Why don't you ask about GE again.

[email protected] August 23rd 11 03:15 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:56:33 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:13:20 -0400, X ~ Man
wrote:

1) Exxon Mobil


Corporations don't pay taxes, they just collect the money from their
customers, tack on some profit and pass it on in the cost of the
product.

It is just a way to put a hidden tax on the consumer, similar to a
VAT. The only problem is you punish the American company for doing all
of it's business inside the US. If you are a multinational, it is very
easy to make all of your "profit" in another country. Hence the
companies you listed did not make a "US profit".


Really... the CEOs don't pay taxes either, apparently. Nobody has
"punished" companies. Their effective tax rate is quite low. Nice try
with the right wing agenda talking point though.

Canuck57[_9_] August 23rd 11 05:24 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower ratethan you do...
 
On 22/08/2011 8:15 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:56:33 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:13:20 -0400, X ~
wrote:

1) Exxon Mobil


Corporations don't pay taxes, they just collect the money from their
customers, tack on some profit and pass it on in the cost of the
product.

It is just a way to put a hidden tax on the consumer, similar to a
VAT. The only problem is you punish the American company for doing all
of it's business inside the US. If you are a multinational, it is very
easy to make all of your "profit" in another country. Hence the
companies you listed did not make a "US profit".


Really... the CEOs don't pay taxes either, apparently. Nobody has
"punished" companies. Their effective tax rate is quite low. Nice try
with the right wing agenda talking point though.


Keep you head up your parrots ass Polly.

This world is now competing on taxes and USA is losing fast. Fact is
you have a big fat out of control debt corruption government that
doesn't give a rates ass about the people, they only care about being
bigger.

And the more the government gets, the less the people get. No amount of
fleabegging is going to change reality, USA is bankrupt. Don't give up
your job.
--
We have the most expensive governments no one can afford.
And wonder why the economy is doing so poorly?

Califbill August 23rd 11 05:37 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
"Canuck57" wrote in message ...

On 22/08/2011 7:13 PM, BAR wrote:
In articlea6f56113-cd60-4813-9e33-5d2d965a28d1
@t30g2000prm.googlegroups.com, says...

On Aug 22, 7:18 pm, wrote:
In articled42dndoxjIkcSc_TnZ2dnUVZ_oGdn...@earthlink .com,
says...











1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not
only
paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million
rebate
from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS
last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a
bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly
$1 trillion.

3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26
billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion
refund from the IRS.

4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year
after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon
to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS
last year.

6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68
billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check
from
the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax
break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in
taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an
almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury
Department.

8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but
paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from
the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United
States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but
received
$451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing
deduction.

10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11
Z billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those
years
was just 1.1 percent.

From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.

How come GE isn't on the list?


Harry is doing the political shill thing.. the group is ****ed until
november of next year as he brings us his agenda on overdrive...


It appears that Obama and Ron Paul are polling neck and neck. A left
wing communist and a libertarian, who would have thought it possible.


Such a vote would come down to whether or not American voters want their
economic liberty....or what is left of it under Obama.
--
We have the most expensive governments no one can afford.
And wonder why the economy is doing so poorly?


Reply:
Actually read the article.
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/...x_bills/2.html
Exxon paid 47% of their profit in taxes. Just not in the US. They get to
deduct those taxes paid overseas. It says Nigeria gets a tax rate of 85% on
any profits in the country. Seems as if it is congress problem, not an
Exxon problem. Looks like Exxon actually paid the USA 7.7 Billion in taxes
and duties last year. Seems as if that added some to the cost of fuel.


Canuck57[_9_] August 23rd 11 06:02 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower ratethan you do...
 
On 22/08/2011 10:37 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message ...

On 22/08/2011 7:13 PM, BAR wrote:
In articlea6f56113-cd60-4813-9e33-5d2d965a28d1
@t30g2000prm.googlegroups.com, says...

On Aug 22, 7:18 pm, wrote:
In articled42dndoxjIkcSc_TnZ2dnUVZ_oGdn...@earthlink .com,
says...











1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not
only
paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million
rebate
from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the
IRS
last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a
bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly
$1 trillion.

3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26
billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion
refund from the IRS.

4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year
after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the
Pentagon
to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS
last year.

6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68
billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check
from
the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax
break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in
taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an
almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury
Department.

8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but
paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from
the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United
States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but
received
$451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing
deduction.

10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than
$11
Z billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those
years
was just 1.1 percent.

From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.

How come GE isn't on the list?

Harry is doing the political shill thing.. the group is ****ed until
november of next year as he brings us his agenda on overdrive...


It appears that Obama and Ron Paul are polling neck and neck. A left
wing communist and a libertarian, who would have thought it possible.


Such a vote would come down to whether or not American voters want their
economic liberty....or what is left of it under Obama.
--
We have the most expensive governments no one can afford.
And wonder why the economy is doing so poorly?


Reply:
Actually read the article.
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/...x_bills/2.html

Exxon paid 47% of their profit in taxes. Just not in the US. They get
to deduct those taxes paid overseas. It says Nigeria gets a tax rate of
85% on any profits in the country. Seems as if it is congress problem,
not an Exxon problem. Looks like Exxon actually paid the USA 7.7
Billion in taxes and duties last year. Seems as if that added some to
the cost of fuel.


And the jobs including employment taxes.

I am fully aware of the fleabagger bull**** going on here. But
fleabaggers also think a multi-national should pay DC taxes for products
made and sold in China as an example.

The reality is USA has too many ignorant, arrogant, debt loving,
uneducated low moral fleabaggers with votes. A cultural problem of
entitlement, envy and greed runs the USA.

It really ramped up in 2006-Democrat congres and Bernanke print money
inflation fraud, causing unemployment. Inflation mean instead of people
buying 20 widgets a month, they could only buy 19...so on comes QE1/2
and sooner or later QE3....and they will only buy 15 widgets, and 25% of
labor gets the axe.

Debt is an addiction, just like heroin, the very thing the fleabaggers
crave is the very thing causing the troubles. Too much government, too
much future tax-debt-slavery, too much unemployment and with zero rates
lower corporate earnings requirements. Less revenue for all, is less
spending for all...but wait...government grew like a cancer....

Fact is, USA is screwed for a decade or more, peraps 2 generations.
Just too much debt. And the US economy is collapsing, more and more
countries are outperforming the USA. For example, only Argentina in
South America is not outperforming the USA. Even Mexican pesos are
doing better.

Fact is America needs a leader to stand up and say, Bernanke, your a
fraud and fired. Bernanke Doctrine and Keynes is an utter failure of
the larges economic kind we have ever seen. Then cut 1/2 of the DC
government spending starting right now. If delinquent debtors can't
afford homes now, they never will.

Fact is USA is bankrupt. And a decision has to be made, is America a
nation of debt-tax slaves or is there going to be some economic liberty.
You can't have both, but not making a good decision might mean you get
neither.
--
We have the most expensive governments no one can afford.
And wonder why the economy is doing so poorly?

iBoat More August 23rd 11 01:46 PM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
In article ,
says...

On 8/22/11 7:26 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 22/08/2011 5:18 PM, BAR wrote:
In articled42dndoxjIkcSc_TnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

1) Exxon Mobil made $19 billion in profits in 2009. Exxon not only
paid no federal income taxes, it actually received a $156 million rebate
from the IRS, according to its SEC filings.

2) Bank of America received a $1.9 billion tax refund from the IRS
last year, although it made $4.4 billion in profits and received a
bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department of nearly
$1 trillion.

3) Over the past five years, while General Electric made $26
billion in profits in the United States, it received a $4.1 billion
refund from the IRS.

4) Chevron received a $19 million refund from the IRS last year
after it made $10 billion in profits in 2009.

5) Boeing, which received a $30 billion contract from the Pentagon
to build 179 airborne tankers, got a $124 million refund from the IRS
last year.

6) Valero Energy, the 25th largest company in America with $68
billion in sales last year received a $157 million tax refund check from
the IRS and, over the past three years, it received a $134 million tax
break from the oil and gas manufacturing tax deduction.

7) Goldman Sachs in 2008 only paid 1.1 percent of its income in
taxes even though it earned a profit of $2.3 billion and received an
almost $800 billion from the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury
Department.

8) Citigroup last year made more than $4 billion in profits but
paid no federal income taxes. It received a $2.5 trillion bailout from
the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury.

9) ConocoPhillips, the fifth largest oil company in the United
States, made $16 billion in profits from 2007 through 2009, but received
$451 million in tax breaks through the oil and gas manufacturing
deduction.

10) Over the past five years, Carnival Cruise Lines made more than $11
billion in profits, but its federal income tax rate during those years
was just 1.1 percent.

From a news release from U.S. Sen Bernie Sanders, of Vermont.

How come GE isn't on the list?


Because your dealing with fleabagger material.


You must have been one crappy bookkeeper. You're the second or third
right-wing moron who has demonstrated an inability to read. Here's a
hint: GE is the initialism for General Electric.

Stupid schmucks.


What intelligent debating skills you have. You're right up there with
Tuuk!

[email protected] August 23rd 11 11:18 PM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:42:32 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/08/2011 9:47 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:37:12 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Reply:
Actually read the article.
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/...x_bills/2.html
Exxon paid 47% of their profit in taxes. Just not in the US. They get to
deduct those taxes paid overseas. It says Nigeria gets a tax rate of 85% on
any profits in the country. Seems as if it is congress problem, not an
Exxon problem. Looks like Exxon actually paid the USA 7.7 Billion in taxes
and duties last year. Seems as if that added some to the cost of fuel.


I thought the US was the most heavily taxed nation in the world. Which
is it. Do we have high or low taxes? Since you claim to have read the
article, please tell us how many taxes Exxon paid to the IRS?
Absolutely zero, so naturally we gave them a subsidy to ruin the
environment.


Maybe on a gross level, but no one an individual level. Just that with
your record you can't travel out of state much less the country.


You are on a gross level. Other than that, it's impossible to parse
what you're trying to complain about, you being an illiterate moron.

[email protected] August 23rd 11 11:18 PM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:44:22 -0400, X ~ Man
wrote:

On 8/23/11 12:42 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
Just that with
your record you can't travel out of state much less the country.



More inane absurdities from Canuckles.


I think he must bang his head against the wall a few times right
before he posts.

[email protected] August 23rd 11 11:19 PM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:43:47 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/08/2011 9:11 AM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/23/2011 12:24 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 22/08/2011 8:15 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:56:33 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:13:20 -0400, X ~
wrote:

1) Exxon Mobil

Corporations don't pay taxes, they just collect the money from their
customers, tack on some profit and pass it on in the cost of the
product.

It is just a way to put a hidden tax on the consumer, similar to a
VAT. The only problem is you punish the American company for doing all
of it's business inside the US. If you are a multinational, it is very
easy to make all of your "profit" in another country. Hence the
companies you listed did not make a "US profit".

Really... the CEOs don't pay taxes either, apparently. Nobody has
"punished" companies. Their effective tax rate is quite low. Nice try
with the right wing agenda talking point though.

Keep you head up your parrots ass Polly.

This world is now competing on taxes and USA is losing fast. Fact is you
have a big fat out of control debt corruption government that doesn't
give a rates ass about the people, they only care about being bigger.

And the more the government gets, the less the people get. No amount of
fleabegging is going to change reality, USA is bankrupt. Don't give up
your job.


Too late. She already quit her job as patent researcher, or was it
building inspector?


Looks like she only lasted Monday and got fired.


Looks like you remain the clown of the newsgroup...

[email protected] August 23rd 11 11:20 PM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:46:18 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/08/2011 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:24:23 -0600,
wrote:

On 22/08/2011 8:15 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:56:33 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:13:20 -0400, X ~
wrote:

1) Exxon Mobil

Corporations don't pay taxes, they just collect the money from their
customers, tack on some profit and pass it on in the cost of the
product.

It is just a way to put a hidden tax on the consumer, similar to a
VAT. The only problem is you punish the American company for doing all
of it's business inside the US. If you are a multinational, it is very
easy to make all of your "profit" in another country. Hence the
companies you listed did not make a "US profit".

Really... the CEOs don't pay taxes either, apparently. Nobody has
"punished" companies. Their effective tax rate is quite low. Nice try
with the right wing agenda talking point though.

Keep you head up your parrots ass Polly.

This world is now competing on taxes and USA is losing fast. Fact is
you have a big fat out of control debt corruption government that
doesn't give a rates ass about the people, they only care about being
bigger.

And the more the government gets, the less the people get. No amount of
fleabegging is going to change reality, USA is bankrupt. Don't give up
your job.


Is that where you find your head... up your ass?

You just got done agreeing the CalifIll that other places have higher
tax rates. Now, you're claiming the opposite. You're plain stupid.


Hey, raise taxes on EVERYONE. So evil politicians like Obama can't pit
greedy Americans against producing Americans for his lust of power.

That way every voter feels the pain, the socialist way.


The middle class and the poor are already feeling the pain. It's time
to tax the rich, so they can feel some, but that Socialist Warren
Buffet agrees, so it must be wrong.

Canuck57[_9_] August 24th 11 01:38 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower ratethan you do...
 
On 23/08/2011 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:46:18 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/08/2011 9:49 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:24:23 -0600,
wrote:

On 22/08/2011 8:15 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:56:33 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:13:20 -0400, X ~
wrote:

1) Exxon Mobil

Corporations don't pay taxes, they just collect the money from their
customers, tack on some profit and pass it on in the cost of the
product.

It is just a way to put a hidden tax on the consumer, similar to a
VAT. The only problem is you punish the American company for doing all
of it's business inside the US. If you are a multinational, it is very
easy to make all of your "profit" in another country. Hence the
companies you listed did not make a "US profit".

Really... the CEOs don't pay taxes either, apparently. Nobody has
"punished" companies. Their effective tax rate is quite low. Nice try
with the right wing agenda talking point though.

Keep you head up your parrots ass Polly.

This world is now competing on taxes and USA is losing fast. Fact is
you have a big fat out of control debt corruption government that
doesn't give a rates ass about the people, they only care about being
bigger.

And the more the government gets, the less the people get. No amount of
fleabegging is going to change reality, USA is bankrupt. Don't give up
your job.

Is that where you find your head... up your ass?

You just got done agreeing the CalifIll that other places have higher
tax rates. Now, you're claiming the opposite. You're plain stupid.


Hey, raise taxes on EVERYONE. So evil politicians like Obama can't pit
greedy Americans against producing Americans for his lust of power.

That way every voter feels the pain, the socialist way.


The middle class and the poor are already feeling the pain. It's time
to tax the rich, so they can feel some, but that Socialist Warren
Buffet agrees, so it must be wrong.


He is just a senile old fool with the IRS up his ass and the deal is
"tax me more" for a easy bye.

--
If it is all Bush's fault, then how come Obama is doing much more of the
same and expecing different results?

[email protected] August 24th 11 03:12 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 18:38:02 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/08/2011 4:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:46:18 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/08/2011 9:49 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:24:23 -0600,
wrote:

On 22/08/2011 8:15 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:56:33 -0400,
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:13:20 -0400, X ~
wrote:

1) Exxon Mobil

Corporations don't pay taxes, they just collect the money from their
customers, tack on some profit and pass it on in the cost of the
product.

It is just a way to put a hidden tax on the consumer, similar to a
VAT. The only problem is you punish the American company for doing all
of it's business inside the US. If you are a multinational, it is very
easy to make all of your "profit" in another country. Hence the
companies you listed did not make a "US profit".

Really... the CEOs don't pay taxes either, apparently. Nobody has
"punished" companies. Their effective tax rate is quite low. Nice try
with the right wing agenda talking point though.

Keep you head up your parrots ass Polly.

This world is now competing on taxes and USA is losing fast. Fact is
you have a big fat out of control debt corruption government that
doesn't give a rates ass about the people, they only care about being
bigger.

And the more the government gets, the less the people get. No amount of
fleabegging is going to change reality, USA is bankrupt. Don't give up
your job.

Is that where you find your head... up your ass?

You just got done agreeing the CalifIll that other places have higher
tax rates. Now, you're claiming the opposite. You're plain stupid.

Hey, raise taxes on EVERYONE. So evil politicians like Obama can't pit
greedy Americans against producing Americans for his lust of power.

That way every voter feels the pain, the socialist way.


The middle class and the poor are already feeling the pain. It's time
to tax the rich, so they can feel some, but that Socialist Warren
Buffet agrees, so it must be wrong.


He is just a senile old fool with the IRS up his ass and the deal is
"tax me more" for a easy bye.


Uh huh... that senile old fool makes you look microscopic in every
aspect of your life.

Califbill August 24th 11 03:36 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
"Canuck57" wrote in message ...

On 23/08/2011 9:47 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:37:12 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Reply:
Actually read the article.
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/...x_bills/2.html
Exxon paid 47% of their profit in taxes. Just not in the US. They get
to
deduct those taxes paid overseas. It says Nigeria gets a tax rate of 85%
on
any profits in the country. Seems as if it is congress problem, not an
Exxon problem. Looks like Exxon actually paid the USA 7.7 Billion in
taxes
and duties last year. Seems as if that added some to the cost of fuel.


I thought the US was the most heavily taxed nation in the world. Which
is it. Do we have high or low taxes? Since you claim to have read the
article, please tell us how many taxes Exxon paid to the IRS?
Absolutely zero, so naturally we gave them a subsidy to ruin the
environment.


Maybe on a gross level, but no one an individual level. Just that with
your record you can't travel out of state much less the country.
--
We have the most expensive governments no one can afford.
And wonder why the economy is doing so poorly?


Reply:
Article said Exxon paid $7.7 billion in taxes to USA entities.


Canuck57[_9_] August 24th 11 03:47 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower ratethan you do...
 
On 23/08/2011 8:36 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message ...

On 23/08/2011 9:47 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:37:12 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Reply:
Actually read the article.
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/...x_bills/2.html

Exxon paid 47% of their profit in taxes. Just not in the US. They
get to
deduct those taxes paid overseas. It says Nigeria gets a tax rate of
85% on
any profits in the country. Seems as if it is congress problem, not an
Exxon problem. Looks like Exxon actually paid the USA 7.7 Billion in
taxes
and duties last year. Seems as if that added some to the cost of fuel.


I thought the US was the most heavily taxed nation in the world. Which
is it. Do we have high or low taxes? Since you claim to have read the
article, please tell us how many taxes Exxon paid to the IRS?
Absolutely zero, so naturally we gave them a subsidy to ruin the
environment.


Maybe on a gross level, but no one an individual level. Just that with
your record you can't travel out of state much less the country.
--
We have the most expensive governments no one can afford.
And wonder why the economy is doing so poorly?


Reply:
Article said Exxon paid $7.7 billion in taxes to USA entities.


I am sure they did. I know COP pays plenty, I read their financial reports.

What we really see here is a evil idiot Obama using peoples greed and
envy as blame deflection. Get them to hate someone else, appealing to
low life need to hate. Have them hate the "rich" and they will hate
Obama less. Feed and prey on the gullibility of stupid fleabaggers.

A well known, open discussed form of management and political psychology
and I am sure Obama picked it up at Harvard or somewhere. Usually a
sign of a political bully mentality with narcissism and a closed mind.
Certain shows Obama to be a manipulative SOB.

--
If it is all Bush's fault, then how come Obama is doing much more of the
same and expecting different results?

[email protected] August 24th 11 04:28 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:47:09 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/08/2011 8:36 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message ...

On 23/08/2011 9:47 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:37:12 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Reply:
Actually read the article.
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/...x_bills/2.html

Exxon paid 47% of their profit in taxes. Just not in the US. They
get to
deduct those taxes paid overseas. It says Nigeria gets a tax rate of
85% on
any profits in the country. Seems as if it is congress problem, not an
Exxon problem. Looks like Exxon actually paid the USA 7.7 Billion in
taxes
and duties last year. Seems as if that added some to the cost of fuel.

I thought the US was the most heavily taxed nation in the world. Which
is it. Do we have high or low taxes? Since you claim to have read the
article, please tell us how many taxes Exxon paid to the IRS?
Absolutely zero, so naturally we gave them a subsidy to ruin the
environment.


Maybe on a gross level, but no one an individual level. Just that with
your record you can't travel out of state much less the country.
--
We have the most expensive governments no one can afford.
And wonder why the economy is doing so poorly?


Reply:
Article said Exxon paid $7.7 billion in taxes to USA entities.


I am sure they did. I know COP pays plenty, I read their financial reports.

What we really see here is a evil idiot Obama using peoples greed and
envy as blame deflection. Get them to hate someone else, appealing to
low life need to hate. Have them hate the "rich" and they will hate
Obama less. Feed and prey on the gullibility of stupid fleabaggers.

A well known, open discussed form of management and political psychology
and I am sure Obama picked it up at Harvard or somewhere. Usually a
sign of a political bully mentality with narcissism and a closed mind.
Certain shows Obama to be a manipulative SOB.


US corporations also pay FICA tax (6.2%). So, despite that Greg said
corporations don't pay taxes, they do.

[email protected] August 24th 11 07:31 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 01:53:41 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:28:11 -0700,
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:47:09 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/08/2011 8:36 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message ...

On 23/08/2011 9:47 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:37:12 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Reply:
Actually read the article.
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/...x_bills/2.html

Exxon paid 47% of their profit in taxes. Just not in the US. They
get to
deduct those taxes paid overseas. It says Nigeria gets a tax rate of
85% on
any profits in the country. Seems as if it is congress problem, not an
Exxon problem. Looks like Exxon actually paid the USA 7.7 Billion in
taxes
and duties last year. Seems as if that added some to the cost of fuel.

I thought the US was the most heavily taxed nation in the world. Which
is it. Do we have high or low taxes? Since you claim to have read the
article, please tell us how many taxes Exxon paid to the IRS?
Absolutely zero, so naturally we gave them a subsidy to ruin the
environment.

Maybe on a gross level, but no one an individual level. Just that with
your record you can't travel out of state much less the country.
--
We have the most expensive governments no one can afford.
And wonder why the economy is doing so poorly?


Reply:
Article said Exxon paid $7.7 billion in taxes to USA entities.

I am sure they did. I know COP pays plenty, I read their financial reports.

What we really see here is a evil idiot Obama using peoples greed and
envy as blame deflection. Get them to hate someone else, appealing to
low life need to hate. Have them hate the "rich" and they will hate
Obama less. Feed and prey on the gullibility of stupid fleabaggers.

A well known, open discussed form of management and political psychology
and I am sure Obama picked it up at Harvard or somewhere. Usually a
sign of a political bully mentality with narcissism and a closed mind.
Certain shows Obama to be a manipulative SOB.


US corporations also pay FICA tax (6.2%). So, despite that Greg said
corporations don't pay taxes, they do.


Employees pay FICA, it is just factored into their wages.
I am sure you have never made a payroll either.
Fica, insurance and other benefits are simply another part of the cost
of labor.

That is why a "contractor" makes more money.


Employers pay also. Employees currently pay 4.2%. Employers currently
pay 6.2%.

Contractors "make more money" in initial take home pay only if they
are 1099 workers. If they are W2 workers, the same numbers apply. If
they are 1099 workers, they pay the total FICA (4.2 + 6.2).

I'm sure you don't know much about the tax system in this country,
since you obviously don't know about how FICA is collected.

As I've said several times, I have a few employees. How many do you
have? Zero.

FICA, insurance, etc. are certainly part of doing business. So what?
That's a meaningless comment.

[email protected] August 24th 11 04:19 PM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:09:32 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 23:31:44 -0700,
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 01:53:41 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:28:11 -0700,
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:47:09 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/08/2011 8:36 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message ...

On 23/08/2011 9:47 AM,
wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:37:12 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Reply:
Actually read the article.
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/...x_bills/2.html

Exxon paid 47% of their profit in taxes. Just not in the US. They
get to
deduct those taxes paid overseas. It says Nigeria gets a tax rate of
85% on
any profits in the country. Seems as if it is congress problem, not an
Exxon problem. Looks like Exxon actually paid the USA 7.7 Billion in
taxes
and duties last year. Seems as if that added some to the cost of fuel.

I thought the US was the most heavily taxed nation in the world. Which
is it. Do we have high or low taxes? Since you claim to have read the
article, please tell us how many taxes Exxon paid to the IRS?
Absolutely zero, so naturally we gave them a subsidy to ruin the
environment.

Maybe on a gross level, but no one an individual level. Just that with
your record you can't travel out of state much less the country.
--
We have the most expensive governments no one can afford.
And wonder why the economy is doing so poorly?


Reply:
Article said Exxon paid $7.7 billion in taxes to USA entities.

I am sure they did. I know COP pays plenty, I read their financial reports.

What we really see here is a evil idiot Obama using peoples greed and
envy as blame deflection. Get them to hate someone else, appealing to
low life need to hate. Have them hate the "rich" and they will hate
Obama less. Feed and prey on the gullibility of stupid fleabaggers.

A well known, open discussed form of management and political psychology
and I am sure Obama picked it up at Harvard or somewhere. Usually a
sign of a political bully mentality with narcissism and a closed mind.
Certain shows Obama to be a manipulative SOB.

US corporations also pay FICA tax (6.2%). So, despite that Greg said
corporations don't pay taxes, they do.

Employees pay FICA, it is just factored into their wages.
I am sure you have never made a payroll either.
Fica, insurance and other benefits are simply another part of the cost
of labor.

That is why a "contractor" makes more money.


Employers pay also. Employees currently pay 4.2%. Employers currently
pay 6.2%.

Contractors "make more money" in initial take home pay only if they
are 1099 workers. If they are W2 workers, the same numbers apply. If
they are 1099 workers, they pay the total FICA (4.2 + 6.2).

I'm sure you don't know much about the tax system in this country,
since you obviously don't know about how FICA is collected.

As I've said several times, I have a few employees. How many do you
have? Zero.

FICA, insurance, etc. are certainly part of doing business. So what?
That's a meaningless comment.


I know how it is "collected", we are talking about where it comes from
(the labor of the employee, passed on to the customer in the cost of
the product, with profit tacked on)

I said corporations only COLLECT taxes, they don't pay them,.

Are you trying to say you do not take FICA into account when you
decide how much you are willing to pay an employee and how you price
your service?

Yes a contractor does get paid on a 1099 what's your point? I have
been a contractor and an employee. I like contractor better.

I have no employees right now but my wife has over 40, more in season.

When we had our other business we had a mix of employees and
contractors. If someone wanted to change from a contractor to an
employee, they took a pay cut, enough to cover the FICA, insurance and
other costs ... or we considered it a raise. You work for every dime
of that FICA.


You're not thinking properly. Corps pay taxes. They pay FICA. It
doesn't come from workers. It's based on how much the corps pay them.
People's pay certainly isn't "reduced" to pay for FICA, etc. It's the
cost of doing business.

You can dance all you want, but the bottom line is that you believe no
corp taxes are appropriate. Zero. Well, it doesn't work that way. FICA
is paid by both the worker and the corp. Feel free to argue until
you're blue in the face, but it's nonsense.

Actually, contractors can work on a W2 basis. They just work for
another corp that ALSO takes out and PAYS FICA.

So, feel free to admit your wrong or don't.

Corps make decisions based on all sorts of factors, one of which is
tax and benefit costs. So what.

[email protected] August 25th 11 01:51 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:24:04 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 08:19:51 -0700,
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 11:09:32 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 23:31:44 -0700,
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 01:53:41 -0400,
wrote:
talking about where it comes from
(the labor of the employee, passed on to the customer in the cost of
the product, with profit tacked on)

I said corporations only COLLECT taxes, they don't pay them,.

Are you trying to say you do not take FICA into account when you
decide how much you are willing to pay an employee and how you price
your service?

Yes a contractor does get paid on a 1099 what's your point? I have
been a contractor and an employee. I like contractor better.

I have no employees right now but my wife has over 40, more in season.

When we had our other business we had a mix of employees and
contractors. If someone wanted to change from a contractor to an
employee, they took a pay cut, enough to cover the FICA, insurance and
other costs ... or we considered it a raise. You work for every dime
of that FICA.


You're not thinking properly. Corps pay taxes. They pay FICA. It
doesn't come from workers. It's based on how much the corps pay them.
People's pay certainly isn't "reduced" to pay for FICA, etc. It's the
cost of doing business.

You can dance all you want, but the bottom line is that you believe no
corp taxes are appropriate. Zero. Well, it doesn't work that way. FICA
is paid by both the worker and the corp. Feel free to argue until
you're blue in the face, but it's nonsense.

Actually, contractors can work on a W2 basis. They just work for
another corp that ALSO takes out and PAYS FICA.

So, feel free to admit your wrong or don't.

Corps make decisions based on all sorts of factors, one of which is
tax and benefit costs. So what.


They also set their prices based on that and all costs and taxes are
passed along to the customer


Which has nothing to do with much. As I said, corporations pay taxes.
You claimed corporations don't pay taxes. They do. What they do after
they pay them or how they figure into their bottom line is secondary
to the fact that they pay them. They also get all kinds of unnecessary
subsidies and tax breaks, mostly undeserved. They need to pay their
fair share and not be subsidized, for example, to send jobs elsewhere.
Despite what Mitt and the Supremes say, corps are not people.

wf3h[_2_] August 25th 11 01:58 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:28:04 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:



Says it well, Harvard, Princeton and Yale slave masters are out to make
us all warriors or slaves. And you, being on welfare should be worried
as once your rights are sufficiently diminished, they will stop paying you.

But in the mean time I expect you will continue to believe Obama's bull****.



that's true. the american people will vote for a far right winger who
will tax them to death to protect the wealthy

wf3h[_2_] August 25th 11 02:00 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 19:42:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

Such a vote would come down to whether or not American voters want their
economic liberty....or what is left of it under Obama.


HAHAHAH the right is now planning to destroy the entire middle class
to support the rich

and it's the black guys' fault!!

wf3h[_2_] August 25th 11 02:01 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:37:12 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"

Such a vote would come down to whether or not American voters want their
economic liberty....or what is left of it under Obama.


what's funny about the right wing is they want tax increases for the
middle class

to give to exxon for creating jobs. problem is, exxon doesnt have to
tell you whether those jobs are created in the US or overseas

so middle class taxpayers could be taxed to pay for exxon to create
jobs in saudi arabia

courtesy of the right wing

wf3h[_2_] August 25th 11 02:09 AM

Guess who pays no federal income taxes or taxes at a lower rate than you do...
 
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 22:21:58 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/08/2011 7:56 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 18:13:20 -0400, X ~
wrote:

1) Exxon Mobil


Corporations don't pay taxes, they just collect the money from their
customers, tack on some profit and pass it on in the cost of the
product.

It is just a way to put a hidden tax on the consumer, similar to a
VAT. The only problem is you punish the American company for doing all
of it's business inside the US. If you are a multinational, it is very
easy to make all of your "profit" in another country. Hence the
companies you listed did not make a "US profit".


US companies have been doing this since the 70's. It is why Euro is so
VAT happy, get the revenue on the sale is harder to beat than the tax
rackets.


real problem is the right wing destroyed labor unions and let
companies buy the US govt.

america has the worst income split in the western world

according to the right wing that produces jobs

where are they?

Without it, your just tax slaves, working for the government without the
benefits.


US taxes are the lowest they've been in 60 years

how's that working out?

canuck doesnt know **** about economics.

he just knows there's a black guy in the white house who's not the
doorman


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