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Soon to be on a bicycle up/canoe back trip.
Ah, the weather's turned, and I've just about accumilated all of the devices I need for my long-planned upon trip along the "Little Miami Bike Trail". Yes, I just need to pick up my new bivy, purchase this year's fishing license, and I'll be ready to travel the bike trail TOWING MY CANOE! Yep, I plan to bicycle north to Yellow Springs, Ohio, then collapse my bike (it's a foldable), put it in my Pelican Explorer, and paddle my way back downstream to Cin. city, Ohio... it will happen soon! |
Soon to be on a bicycle up/canoe back trip.
Garrison Hilliard wrote:
Ah, the weather's turned, and I've just about accumilated all of the devices I need for my long-planned upon trip along the "Little Miami Bike Trail". Yes, I just need to pick up my new bivy, purchase this year's fishing license, and I'll be ready to travel the bike trail TOWING MY CANOE! Yep, I plan to bicycle north to Yellow Springs, Ohio, then collapse my bike (it's a foldable), put it in my Pelican Explorer, and paddle my way back downstream to Cin. city, Ohio... it will happen soon! Sounds fun. Looks like almost 60 miles one-way as the crow flies - how far is it as the bike pedals or as the boat paddles? Here's a picture I took yesterday of the setup for towing my kayak: http://home.comcast.net/~prathman/P2290004.JPG This was just for a day trip on a reservoir - if I need to carry the bike I tow my double kayak instead. |
Soon to be on a bicycle up/canoe back trip.
Peter wrote: Garrison Hilliard wrote: Ah, the weather's turned, and I've just about accumilated all of the devices I need for my long-planned upon trip along the "Little Miami Bike Trail". Yes, I just need to pick up my new bivy, purchase this year's fishing license, and I'll be ready to travel the bike trail TOWING MY CANOE! Yep, I plan to bicycle north to Yellow Springs, Ohio, then collapse my bike (it's a foldable), put it in my Pelican Explorer, and paddle my way back downstream to Cin. city, Ohio... it will happen soon! Sounds fun. Looks like almost 60 miles one-way as the crow flies - how far is it as the bike pedals or as the boat paddles? Here's a picture I took yesterday of the setup for towing my kayak: http://home.comcast.net/~prathman/P2290004.JPG This was just for a day trip on a reservoir - if I need to carry the bike I tow my double kayak instead. |
Soon to be on a bicycle up/canoe back trip.
Peter wrote: Sounds fun. Looks like almost 60 miles one-way as the crow flies - how far is it as the bike pedals or as the boat paddles? Here's a picture I took yesterday of the setup for towing my kayak: http://home.comcast.net/~prathman/P2290004.JPG This was just for a day trip on a reservoir - if I need to carry the bike I tow my double kayak instead. Hey, that's (more or less) the same set-up I use... is that a "Sportsman's Guide" two-wheel trailer I see? I use the same one! As for the mileage... it's 82, following the Little Miami River (trail, State Park, and National Scenic River). |
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Hey, that's one heck of a setup. When camping I tow a BOB YAK trailer with a
hardtail mountain bike. The trailer is far too small to use for a canoe. Can you give me some ideas on how to attach the end of the canoe to my hardtail? Have a good one. "Peter" wrote in message news:9uP0c.93704$Xp.419553@attbi_s54... Garrison Hilliard wrote: Ah, the weather's turned, and I've just about accumilated all of the devices I need for my long-planned upon trip along the "Little Miami Bike Trail". Yes, I just need to pick up my new bivy, purchase this year's fishing license, and I'll be ready to travel the bike trail TOWING MY CANOE! Yep, I plan to bicycle north to Yellow Springs, Ohio, then collapse my bike (it's a foldable), put it in my Pelican Explorer, and paddle my way back downstream to Cin. city, Ohio... it will happen soon! Sounds fun. Looks like almost 60 miles one-way as the crow flies - how far is it as the bike pedals or as the boat paddles? Here's a picture I took yesterday of the setup for towing my kayak: http://home.comcast.net/~prathman/P2290004.JPG This was just for a day trip on a reservoir - if I need to carry the bike I tow my double kayak instead. |
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Icruzna40 wrote:
Hey, that's one heck of a setup. When camping I tow a BOB YAK trailer with a hardtail mountain bike. The trailer is far too small to use for a canoe. Can you give me some ideas on how to attach the end of the canoe to my hardtail? Have a good one. My attachment method is very simple. I take the bow line from my kayak, loop it through the seat rails of the Brooks Pro on my Bike Friday and tie it with a knot. Note that this this works with the relatively large clearance between the seat and rear tire found on the Bike Friday with 20" tires and may not be suitable for bicycles with larger wheels and/or shorter riders. "Peter" wrote in message news:9uP0c.93704$Xp.419553@attbi_s54... Here's a picture I took yesterday of the setup for towing my kayak: http://home.comcast.net/~prathman/P2290004.JPG |
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There used to be a guy who regularly turned up at slaloms in the late
60s early 70s with his slalom kayak all 4m (that's 14ft to you imperialists) of it on his BSA's sidecar. Police in those days were more tolerant in those days! I think the worst he had was to be advised to "tie a rag to the end" To me slaloms were cold enough with out arriving on a motorbike! In message q5f1c.103615$Xp.452516@attbi_s54, Peter writes Icruzna40 wrote: Hey, that's one heck of a setup. When camping I tow a BOB YAK trailer with a hardtail mountain bike. The trailer is far too small to use for a canoe. Can you give me some ideas on how to attach the end of the canoe to my hardtail? Have a good one. My attachment method is very simple. I take the bow line from my kayak, loop it through the seat rails of the Brooks Pro on my Bike Friday and tie it with a knot. Note that this this works with the relatively large clearance between the seat and rear tire found on the Bike Friday with 20" tires and may not be suitable for bicycles with larger wheels and/or shorter riders. "Peter" wrote in message news:9uP0c.93704$Xp.419553@attbi_s54... Here's a picture I took yesterday of the setup for towing my kayak: http://home.comcast.net/~prathman/P2290004.JPG -- Dave Manby Details of the Coruh river and my book "Many Rivers To Run" at http://www.dmanby.demon.co.uk |
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"Icruzna40" wrote in message hlink.net...
Hey, that's one heck of a setup. When camping I tow a BOB YAK trailer with a hardtail mountain bike. The trailer is far too small to use for a canoe. Can you give me some ideas on how to attach the end of the canoe to my hardtail? The best suggestion I have is to purchase a rear rack and use that as an attachment point for your canoe/trailer and store your gear in the canoe. Now, you might have some problems with your rear bike wheel - boat bow clearance, but a simple way to overcame that is by fixing a pipe or (as I did on my mountain bike) 26 inches of two-by-four securely to the rear rack, sink a large eye screw or pivot in the end of the two-by-four and use it as an attachment point for your towed item. "Peter" wrote in message news:9uP0c.93704$Xp.419553@attbi_s54... Garrison Hilliard wrote: Ah, the weather's turned, and I've just about accumilated all of the devices I need for my long-planned upon trip along the "Little Miami Bike Trail". Yes, I just need to pick up my new bivy, purchase this year's fishing license, and I'll be ready to travel the bike trail TOWING MY CANOE! Yep, I plan to bicycle north to Yellow Springs, Ohio, then collapse my bike (it's a foldable), put it in my Pelican Explorer, and paddle my way back downstream to Cin. city, Ohio... it will happen soon! Sounds fun. Looks like almost 60 miles one-way as the crow flies - how far is it as the bike pedals or as the boat paddles? Here's a picture I took yesterday of the setup for towing my kayak: http://home.comcast.net/~prathman/P2290004.JPG This was just for a day trip on a reservoir - if I need to carry the bike I tow my double kayak instead. |
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On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 01:39:15 GMT, Peter wrote:
wrote: Peter wrote: Sounds fun. Looks like almost 60 miles one-way as the crow flies - how far is it as the bike pedals or as the boat paddles? Here's a picture I took yesterday of the setup for towing my kayak: http://home.comcast.net/~prathman/P2290004.JPG This was just for a day trip on a reservoir - if I need to carry the bike I tow my double kayak instead. Hey, that's (more or less) the same set-up I use... is that a "Sportsman's Guide" two-wheel trailer I see? I use the same one! As for the mileage... it's 82, following the Little Miami River (trail, State Park, and National Scenic River). For exact details, check out http://www.miamivalleytrails.org/miami.htm Very similar carts have been marketed under a variety of names. I bought mine from LLBean about 15 years ago and it was called a "Swedish Canoe Cart." It came with tire tubes that used "Woods" valves which are almost a cross between Presta and Shrader. Enjoy your journey! That I will! |
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"Garrison Hilliard" wrote in message
om... "Icruzna40" wrote in message hlink.net... Hey, that's one heck of a setup. When camping I tow a BOB YAK trailer with a hardtail mountain bike. The trailer is far too small to use for a canoe. Can you give me some ideas on how to attach the end of the canoe to my hardtail? The best suggestion I have is to purchase a rear rack and use that as an attachment point for your canoe/trailer and store your gear in the canoe. Now, you might have some problems with your rear bike wheel - boat bow clearance, but a simple way to overcame that is by fixing a pipe or (as I did on my mountain bike) 26 inches of two-by-four securely to the rear rack, sink a large eye screw or pivot in the end of the two-by-four and use it as an attachment point for your towed item. Yep, I have the large wheels and nowhere near the clearance like in Peter's photo. I ran a search on Google and found a webpage with info and photos on using a two-by-four with screw-eye as you described(is that your page?). I like the 2x4 idea, but I'll need to alter the plan a bit to accommadate my GT frame design. I'm thinking of laminating multiple layers of 3/4" Baltic Birch plywood together. Then cutting an arch-shaped towbar to curve over the wheel. I'm not sure what I'll do yet, I'm looking at ordering my canoe next week. Here is the site I found: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~sullivan/canoe_bike.html . Thanks guys. |
Soon to be on a bicycle up/canoe back trip.
On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 14:42:07 GMT, "Icruzna40" wrote:
Now, you might have some problems with your rear bike wheel - boat bow clearance, but a simple way to overcame that is by fixing a pipe or (as I did on my mountain bike) 26 inches of two-by-four securely to the rear rack, sink a large eye screw or pivot in the end of the two-by-four and use it as an attachment point for your towed item. Yep, I have the large wheels and nowhere near the clearance like in Peter's photo. I ran a search on Google and found a webpage with info and photos on using a two-by-four with screw-eye as you described(is that your page?). Nope, that's a much more elaborate set-up than I use, and my 2x4 is secured to the rear of the bike and the canoe attached to it rather than (as shown on that webpage) secured to the canoe and the bike's attached to it. Plus my canoe has a bow eye, so I just use that and a snap joint as pivot for turns rather than the (admittedly well-made) swiveling tongue on the aforementioned webpage. I like the 2x4 idea, but I'll need to alter the plan a bit to accommadate my GT frame design. I'm thinking of laminating multiple layers of 3/4" Baltic Birch plywood together. Then cutting an arch-shaped towbar to curve over the wheel. I'm not sure what I'll do yet, I'm looking at ordering my canoe next week. Here is the site I found: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~sullivan/canoe_bike.html . Thanks guys. My set-up isn't as sturdy as that one, but mine has the advantage of being adaptable for towing other canoes or trailers. |
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"Icruzna40" wrote in message
hlink.net... Hey, that's one heck of a setup. When camping I tow a BOB YAK trailer with a hardtail mountain bike. The trailer is far too small to use for a canoe. Can you give me some ideas on how to attach the end of the canoe to my hardtail? Having missed much of the thread, I may be making a duplicate suggestion. Have you looked at Bikes at Work (http://www.bikesatwork.com/bike-trailers/)? Dave dvt at psu dot edu |
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Peter wrote in message news:9uP0c.93704$Xp.419553@attbi_s54...
Garrison Hilliard wrote: Ah, the weather's turned, and I've just about accumilated all of the devices I need for my long-planned upon trip along the "Little Miami Bike Trail". Yes, I just need to pick up my new bivy, purchase this year's fishing license, and I'll be ready to travel the bike trail TOWING MY CANOE! Yep, I plan to bicycle north to Yellow Springs, Ohio, then collapse my bike (it's a foldable), put it in my Pelican Explorer, and paddle my way back downstream to Cin. city, Ohio... it will happen soon! Sounds fun. Looks like almost 60 miles one-way as the crow flies - how far is it as the bike pedals or as the boat paddles? Here's a picture I took yesterday of the setup for towing my kayak: http://home.comcast.net/~prathman/P2290004.JPG This was just for a day trip on a reservoir - if I need to carry the bike I tow my double kayak instead. Dear Peter and Garrison, Here's how real men would handle the situation: http://home.earthlink.net/~ubertuber/main.htm No canoes, no kayaks, no trailers--just a bicycle, a few larger-than-normal spare tubes, and a pump! Carl Fogel |
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Holy cow, a 300lb capacity bike trailer. I don't have time to look at all
the info on it, but I saw the photo of one towing a refrigerator. I'll read the site later - I'd like to know if they offer trailer brakes. "dvt" wrote in message ... "Icruzna40" wrote in message hlink.net... Hey, that's one heck of a setup. When camping I tow a BOB YAK trailer with a hardtail mountain bike. The trailer is far too small to use for a canoe. Can you give me some ideas on how to attach the end of the canoe to my hardtail? Having missed much of the thread, I may be making a duplicate suggestion. Have you looked at Bikes at Work (http://www.bikesatwork.com/bike-trailers/)? Dave dvt at psu dot edu |
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"Icruzna40" wrote in message
rthlink.net... Hey, that's one heck of a setup. When camping I tow a BOB YAK trailer with a hardtail mountain bike. The trailer is far too small to use for a canoe. Can you give me some ideas on how to attach the end of the canoe to my hardtail? "dvt" wrote in message ... Having missed much of the thread, I may be making a duplicate suggestion. Have you looked at Bikes at Work (http://www.bikesatwork.com/bike-trailers/)? Icruzna40 wrote: Holy cow, a 300lb capacity bike trailer. I don't have time to look at all the info on it, but I saw the photo of one towing a refrigerator. I'll read the site later - I'd like to know if they offer trailer brakes. That's interesting. That sort of thing has been around a long time by many makers: http://www.yellowjersey.org/bluesky.html -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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Icruzna40 wrote:
Holy cow, a 300lb capacity bike trailer. More fun stuff: http://organicengines.com/SUV/index2.htm I think the boat pictured is a sailboat, so this is probably a bit OT for rec.boats.paddle.... -- Dave dvt at psu dot edu |
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WOW!!! I can't even imagine moving a full size adult in a wheelchair in a
bike trailer!!! I haul our youngest boy around in a Little Tike trailer and that can be a challenge on steep hills and I bike a lot! Let's just say there is very little coasting time. :-) NOW let's talk about STOPPING that kind of load with bike brakes!!!!!! Just because something can be done, doesn't mean it should be done..... "A Muzi" wrote in message ... "Icruzna40" wrote in message rthlink.net... Hey, that's one heck of a setup. When camping I tow a BOB YAK trailer with a hardtail mountain bike. The trailer is far too small to use for a canoe. Can you give me some ideas on how to attach the end of the canoe to my hardtail? "dvt" wrote in message ... Having missed much of the thread, I may be making a duplicate suggestion. Have you looked at Bikes at Work (http://www.bikesatwork.com/bike-trailers/)? Icruzna40 wrote: Holy cow, a 300lb capacity bike trailer. I don't have time to look at all the info on it, but I saw the photo of one towing a refrigerator. I'll read the site later - I'd like to know if they offer trailer brakes. That's interesting. That sort of thing has been around a long time by many makers: http://www.yellowjersey.org/bluesky.html -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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I've had a problem with a home made two wheel bike trailer getting it to
track behind the bike, 'way too much yaw. Suspect it has something to do with center of balance. Anybody worked out the math? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ William R Watt National Capital FreeNet Ottawa's free community network homepage: www.ncf.ca/~ag384/top.htm warning: non-freenet email must have "notspam" in subject or it's returned |
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Kevin wrote: WOW!!! I can't even imagine moving a full size adult in a wheelchair in a bike trailer!!! I haul our youngest boy around in a Little Tike trailer and that can be a challenge on steep hills and I bike a lot! Let's just say there is very little coasting time. :-) NOW let's talk about STOPPING that kind of load with bike brakes!!!!!! Don't top-post, it gives you crabs. Has it occurred to you that tandem riders stop that kind of load with bicycle brakes all the time? -- David Damerell flcl? |
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You need to toe in the tires about 3/32 - 1/8" and that will solve the
problem with the tracking properly. Mike "William R. Watt" wrote in message ... I've had a problem with a home made two wheel bike trailer getting it to track behind the bike, 'way too much yaw. Suspect it has something to do with center of balance. Anybody worked out the math? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- William R Watt National Capital FreeNet Ottawa's free community network homepage: www.ncf.ca/~ag384/top.htm warning: non-freenet email must have "notspam" in subject or it's returned |
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