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ping Mike McCrea Little Tupper Time
Hello,
I was wondering if I could pester you for a moment about camping on Little Tupper Lake? I think I might like to head up there for a mid week trip some time this summer. Where is the parking area, on County Highway 10? Is it near the Whitney Head Quarters? I understand that there is some kind of self check-in where you post on a bulletin board where you are camping? Any more info you can give to get me started, or pointers for maps or books? Thanks in advance, George |
ping Mike McCrea Little Tupper Time
George wrote in
: Just in case Mike doesn't repond right away.... Hello, I was wondering if I could pester you for a moment about camping on Little Tupper Lake? I think I might like to head up there for a mid week trip some time this summer. Where is the parking area, on County Highway 10? I'd have to check a map but there is only one road leading into Little Tupper and there is a large parking area near the beach where you launch/register. Is it near the Whitney Head Quarters? I understand that there is some kind of self check-in where you post on a bulletin board where you are camping? I think Mike said it may have changed a bit but there used to be a board with a map of the lake that had all of the campsites numbered. Next to the map were numbered hooks with tags on them with Occupied on one side and unoccupied on the other. Find a site that you like, check the tag and if it's unoccupied flip it over. There was also a log book to fill out to list your name, the campsite you're staying at, and how long you're going to be there. Mike also posted a really good article rating most of the available sites on the lake. Do a google search for it before you go. Also, just down the road is Lake Lila, which I've heard has a similar boating/camping set up. Any more info you can give to get me started, or pointers for maps or books? Here are a couple of links: http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/d...dk/whitney.htm http://tupperlake.net/Whitney.htm |
ping Mike McCrea Little Tupper Time
George,
Happy to help. Answers interspersed below: Where is the parking area, on County Highway 10? Is it near the Whitney Head Quarters? The parking area is at the Headquarters, just across the lake from the Camp on the Point (The fancy 3-story Whitney place on the lake). I understand that there is some kind of self check-in where you post on a bulletin board where you are camping? There used to be a sort of tote board, like at Stillwater, on which you selected a site and moveda numbered tag from the unoccupied to oppupied side. This didn't work very well, so now you just sign in on the log book and paddle in looking for a site (no pre-registration). Any more info you can give to get me started, or pointers for maps or books? I'm going to e-mail you a copy of our campsite rating system for Little Tupper; this has every site on the lake rated and ranked in 7 categories: maximun tent capacity, landing ease, views and water proximity, buggieness, swimming potential, site wanderability and sun/shade mix, along with a cumulative ranking for each sites total score and notes and comments on each site.. E-mail me your postal address and I'll mail you a map of Little Tupper with the campsites denoted and numbered. Let me know if you have any questions or need anything else. Mike Thanks in advance, George |
ping Mike McCrea Little Tupper Time
George, I tied twice to e-mail you (replacing the "dot" with . the 2nd
time) and both messages kicked back. Shoot me an e-mail and I'll send you the campsite score sheet for all of the sites on Little Tupper. And send me your snail mail addy too and I'll send you a copy of the map. Mike |
ping Mike McCrea Little Tupper Time
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:05:07 GMT, John Fereira
wrote: George wrote in : Just in case Mike doesn't repond right away.... [...] Mike answered too. Mike also posted a really good article rating most of the available sites on the lake. Do a google search for it before you go. Yeah, I saved it from last year, made it sound like it would be well worth the six hour drive. Also, just down the road is Lake Lila, which I've heard has a similar boating/camping set up. Oh, didn't know that, thanks. Any more info you can give to get me started, or pointers for maps or books? Here are a couple of links: http://www.dec.state.ny.us/website/d...dk/whitney.htm http://tupperlake.net/Whitney.htm Thank you. After posting the request for info last night, I kinda slapped my head thought about googleing for answers. I googled on little tupper lake. found a bunch of stuff and answered most of the preliminary questions Better late then never. Thanks again for your help. George |
ping Mike McCrea Little Tupper Time
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ping Mike McCrea Little Tupper Time
George wrote in message
There used to be a sort of tote board, like at Stillwater, on which you selected a site and moveda numbered tag from the unoccupied to oppupied side. This didn't work very well, so now you just sign in on the log book and paddle in looking for a site (no pre-registration). Ah this makes sense, I wondered what would happen if you got to the choosen campsite to find less then desirerable, you would have to return to the tote board to change camp sites. That was one of the problems. One of many problems with such an occupied/unoccupied honor system. Some people would find the site they had chosen at random not to their liking and simply paddle on to another, creating two errors on the board; an unoccupied site listed as occuiped and also the reverse. At Stillwater we've pre-selected a site, flipped the tag from unocupied to occuiped and paddled out to find someone already camped there. In one memorable episode we were a couple of hundred yards away from the site, obviously headed ashore, when a motor boat shot past us, beached at the site and hurriendly began disgorging gear. We paddle up and discussed this with them, and they claimed that they had flipped the tag. Not much we could do but paddle back to the put in, flip another tag and try again. In talking with the Rangers it appears that this was a not infrequent occurance, with an even worse strategic reaction - some folks knowing that this happens were flipping two or three tags in an effort to increase their chances of finding an unoccupied site; the sites they flipped but didn't use of course apeared to be occupied when looking at the board. And then there is the issue of having to paddle back to the put in if you wanted to move on to another site later in the trip. All in all those site occupancy boards created more problems than they solved, and I thing pretty much every place in the Adirondacks except Stillwater did away with them and went to a simple paddle out, first come-first serve system. |
ping Mike McCrea Little Tupper Time
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ping Mike McCrea Little Tupper Time
George wrote
What didn't work was the time we were in Algonquin Park and we were informed that our chosen route may not be passable due to low water levels, on our permits they put down our chosen campsites and also gave us some alternate campsites. We ended up going to the alternate sites, but around 5 pm another party came around saying they were also given the same campsite. It worked out in the end, as our site was hugh and we were happy to share as was the other party. After experiencing a number of alternatives I still prefer the crapshoot of a first-come, first-serve paddle in and find a site situation. We're willing to schedule our trips to avoid putting in on Fridays or Saturdays, so that we aren't in such heavy competition for sites, and on long trips we'll often try to schedule our paddle out days for a Friday or Saturday, in part so that a site opens up when it is most needed, in part because such timing will put us back on the road, re-supplying and en route to someplace else for a Sunday or Monday launch. One alternative I didn't care much for (although I recoginze the management need for it in popular areas) is the oxymoronic "backcountry reservations", especially when these reservations are site-specific (ie, site #37 on Thursday night) as opposed to simply, say, specific to a particular lake or area. We had site-specific reservations in a couple of Ontario Provincial parks a few years ago, and even though I had made the reservations a few months before our trip I knew some of the sites were gonna be the pits; when you call to make "backcountry reservations" months before a trip and find that only one site remains in certain areas you can be pretty certain there's a reason it's the only one left. Even more maddening than reservations to camp at a damp, muddy, bug-ridden site from hell is the realization that there are far better sites that remain unoccupied because the folks who reserved them didn't show up that day. |
ping Mike McCrea Little Tupper Time
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