Plume really needs to have her head shrunk
 

On 8/5/2011 12:59 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 12:51 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:27:15 -0400, X -
wrote:

On 8/5/11 8:12 AM, BeachBum wrote:
Why? To fit her brain, of course.

These are her last 7 well *reasoned* posts.

You right-wing circle jerkers wouldn't know "well-reasoned" from
"well-seasoned." You and several of your fellow low IQ righties don't
have the brain power to discern what is well-reasoned and what isn't.
Most of you barely got out of high school. You, Ingersoll, Canuckles,
your buddy the ID spoofer, et cetera, are the best argument against
social promotions.

Fortunately, I didn't see the others. Are you actually claiming he and
his buddies have a discernable IQ? I didn't realize the test went so
low.


The scale was lowered by 20 points recently to accommodate the
diminished mental abilities of teabaggers.

I'm such a snob - I judge those whose native language is English by
their ability to use English. If they write like morons, I assume they are.

I'm very friendly with a local family of Mexicans who run a nice
restaurant, several of them, actually. Though English is their second
language, all of them speak it better than these bozos write it.
Actually, we practice our Spanish with them, and they're always willing
to help us with an unknown word or idiomatic phrase.

Those 5 years of remedial reading classes post HS is what brought you up
to speed, Mr. Magoo.

Then you'll be happy to know that 1/2 of Orlando's Jazz format radio
stations went to Hispanic music, just last week. Ole Ole.

Plume really needs to have her head shrunk
 

On 8/5/2011 1:19 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 1:13 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/5/2011 12:35 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 12:20 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/5/2011 12:08 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 12:05 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
But a lot of it. Say
hi to the Mouse for me, last time we were there Melissa tackled him;)


Ahh, the well-behaved Ingersoll clan.


Atlas going up in 5 minutes.
BTW FY


Yeah, I have a great interest in Lego astronauts.

We took our kids to Disneyworld and Disneyland a number of times. If my
daughter or son "tackled" one of the Disney character actors, he or she
would have been escorted back to the hotel room for the rest of the day
and maybe for the rest of the visit. Apparently the Ingersoll kids are
going to turn out like their ill-mannered father, who got shoved around
at the police station by...the police.



Lego astronauts? Must be Harry speak for I don't GAS about anything but
Harry Krause.


D'oh. You are interested in the rocket but not in the "crew"?





D'oh. Unmanned rockets don't have crews. Why does it not surprise me
that you didn't know that?

Plume really needs to have her head shrunk
 

On Fri, 5 Aug 2011 08:59:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"X - Man" wrote in message ...


You right-wing circle jerkers wouldn't know "well-reasoned" from
"well-seasoned." You and several of your fellow low IQ righties don't
have the brain power to discern what is well-reasoned and what isn't.
Most of you barely got out of high school. You, Ingersoll, Canuckles,
your buddy the ID spoofer, et cetera, are the best argument against
social promotions.

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Insults aside, there aren't any Ivy League college grads running around
with much of a clue about what to do either, including our wonderful
"leaders" in Congress.

Actually, there are. I agree that the leaders in Congress willfully
don't know, however (both sides).

Sometimes common sense serves better than college courses/degrees on
economics, especially when all the traditional rules have changed.

Actually, no. It's a combination. No solution can be either pure
theory or pure common sense.

Hate to say it, but there is no simple solution. The revised cry for "Jobs,
Jobs, Jobs" in DC are meaningless. There aren't any.
Any jobs created will be federally funded or subsidized "make work" programs
but there's no money to pay for them.

There are some very simple solutions to the jobs crisis, but they will
take actual cooperation from both sides. Make work programs actually
work, but they will not work forever. One very obvious and not common
sense solution is to spend Federal money NOW. Yes, we have a long-term
debt issue, and no, the current deal doesn't really address it. We
need to forget about the debt and spend money to boost the economy.
Then, when the situation actually does improve (not just start to
improve), then ratchet back on the spending and address the debt.

The real problem is not being addressed. The real solutions are not very
popular to many. Some of the TeaBagger's views unfortunately have some
merit. The USA cannot compete in a global economy like it did since the end
of WWII. Our economic growth was based on internal competition among
companies within the USA, giving rise to artificially high pay and benefit
packages when compared to the rest of the industrialized world.
The rise of countries like China as a major manufacturing country has
changed all that.

Not really. Their "solution" is to eviscerate all the programs that
people rely on daily, to cut programs without much regard to merit,
and do stupid **** like end the Fed. A weak dollar is both a blessing
and a curse, and anyone with some econ understanding knows that.

Additionally, they are opposed to any and all taxes. That's nonsense
and doesn't reflect even very recent historical facts.

Expecting USA based companies to invest in manufacturing facilities in the
USA is a fairy tale. Isn't going to happen as long as they have to compete
with the manufacturing costs overseas. Demands that "Big Corporations"
pay their fair share of taxes sounds good and is justified but collection of
those taxes is a pimple on an elephants ass compared to the revenues
required to pay USA debt, let alone finance "make work" programs.
Right now 60 percent of Americans receive more federal money and benefits
than they pay in taxes. 50 percent of Americans don't pay taxes at all and
both those percentage numbers are rising.

It's not. It's called gov't incentives (carrot and stick) to make it
happen.

The canard about 50% not paying taxes is just that.. a canard.
Everyone (or nearly so) pays tax in some form. If you're talking about
income tax, the tax structure is such that those at the low end and/or
those with deductions pay reduced taxes. The right-wing nonsense about
this is staggering.. as those they people are somehow cheating, when
those at the very high end also pay little or no taxes, mostly due to
other tools/schemes.

We may have no choice but to go back to basics. Entitlements will have to
be scaled back as will defense spending, foreign aid and all other federal
spending programs. Families will have to go back to taking care of each
other and pooling resources. Many in Europe and Asia have been doing that
for years.

Entitlements are an issue, but they don't need to be scaled back in
any kind of drastic way. Fraud needs to be addressed (Tom Coburn's pet
issue at the last economic summit), and there is certainly some waste
that can be addressed. Military spending needs to be reduced and
rethought, much as Robert Gates tried to do. I'm not sure what you're
talking about with "families taking care of each other." That's been
going on and continues to go on, esp. in a weak economy.

When the Chinese worker begins to realize that he/she is working for a
fraction of the compensation paid elsewhere in the world and begins to
revolt things may start to change. As it does, an American worker who used
to receive the equivalent of $50 to $90 per hour in pay and benefits is
going to have to adjust to living on half of that. The $300K house he/she
lives in is going to be worth $150K .

I don't think we can make our economy dependent upon what the Chinese
worker thinks or does. Most American workers (I'm guessing you mean
union/blue-collar) are no longer making $50-$90/hr. The $300K house
has already lost much of the value already.

Sorry to sound so dismal, but that's how I see it.

Eisboch

I don't think it's so "dismal". I think we've got our work cut out for
us, but I see nothing that prevents us from acting rationally.

Plume really needs to have her head shrunk
 

On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:57:50 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 05/08/2011 8:18 AM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 10:11 AM, Eisboch wrote:

"X - Man" wrote in message
...

What we need is a restructuring of society here so that instead of
"semi-socialistic" we move all the way towards modern European
socialism. Most modern European socialist countries are doing ok, and
their average citizens are doing better than Americans. We have
half-assed socialism here and it doesn't work.


Impossible for two or three generations, even if desireable (which I
don't think it is).

Eisboch

For the vast majority of Americans, modern European socialism will
deliver a higher quality of life than corporatism does for them now.
But that's only one aspect of society we need to change.

Let's be real here. Since the advent of unbridled greed and
multinationalism, capitalism is a failure for a growing majority of
Americans. If we don't want a violent revolution, we'll need to modify
and restructure our society. Otherwise, it'll be heads on pikes.

Bull****.

You are bull**** incarnate.

Plume really needs to have her head shrunk
 

On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:57:06 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 05/08/2011 7:36 AM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X - Man" wrote in message ...


You right-wing circle jerkers wouldn't know "well-reasoned" from
"well-seasoned." You and several of your fellow low IQ righties don't
have the brain power to discern what is well-reasoned and what isn't.
Most of you barely got out of high school. You, Ingersoll, Canuckles,
your buddy the ID spoofer, et cetera, are the best argument against
social promotions.

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Insults aside, there aren't any Ivy League college grads running around
with much of a clue about what to do either, including our wonderful
"leaders" in Congress.

Sometimes common sense serves better than college courses/degrees on
economics, especially when all the traditional rules have changed.

Hate to say it, but there is no simple solution. The revised cry for
"Jobs, Jobs, Jobs" in DC are meaningless. There aren't any.
Any jobs created will be federally funded or subsidized "make work"
programs but there's no money to pay for them.

The real problem is not being addressed. The real solutions are not very
popular to many. Some of the TeaBagger's views unfortunately have some
merit. The USA cannot compete in a global economy like it did since the
end of WWII. Our economic growth was based on internal competition among
companies within the USA, giving rise to artificially high pay and
benefit packages when compared to the rest of the industrialized world.
The rise of countries like China as a major manufacturing country has
changed all that.

Expecting USA based companies to invest in manufacturing facilities in
the USA is a fairy tale. Isn't going to happen as long as they have to
compete with the manufacturing costs overseas. Demands that "Big
Corporations" pay their fair share of taxes sounds good and is justified
but collection of those taxes is a pimple on an elephants ass compared
to the revenues required to pay USA debt, let alone finance "make work"
programs.
Right now 60 percent of Americans receive more federal money and
benefits than they pay in taxes. 50 percent of Americans don't pay taxes
at all and both those percentage numbers are rising.

We may have no choice but to go back to basics. Entitlements will have
to be scaled back as will defense spending, foreign aid and all other
federal spending programs. Families will have to go back to taking care
of each other and pooling resources. Many in Europe and Asia have been
doing that for years.

When the Chinese worker begins to realize that he/she is working for a
fraction of the compensation paid elsewhere in the world and begins to
revolt things may start to change. As it does, an American worker who
used to receive the equivalent of $50 to $90 per hour in pay and
benefits is going to have to adjust to living on half of that. The $300K
house he/she lives in is going to be worth $150K .

Sorry to sound so dismal, but that's how I see it.

Eisboch







What we need is a restructuring of society here so that instead of
"semi-socialistic" we move all the way towards modern European
socialism. Most modern European socialist countries are doing ok, and
their average citizens are doing better than Americans. We have
half-assed socialism here and it doesn't work.

You can move there any time you want, provided you don't have a criminal
past and are not a welfare freeloader.

I have ived in UK and Norway, great places o visit and even work for a
short time while seeing the sights to get some Europe experience.

But be damned if I would want to live there without being filthy rich or
in the insider connected circle.

Funny you like their system, in there system you would be working right
now. They don't have welfare, they have workfare. Most people don't
travel much, can't afford it.

You're the one who wants to move to China. Go for it.

Plume really needs to have her head shrunk
 

On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:59:34 -0400, X - Man
wrote:

On 8/5/11 12:51 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:27:15 -0400, X -
wrote:

On 8/5/11 8:12 AM, BeachBum wrote:
Why? To fit her brain, of course.

These are her last 7 well *reasoned* posts.

You right-wing circle jerkers wouldn't know "well-reasoned" from
"well-seasoned." You and several of your fellow low IQ righties don't
have the brain power to discern what is well-reasoned and what isn't.
Most of you barely got out of high school. You, Ingersoll, Canuckles,
your buddy the ID spoofer, et cetera, are the best argument against
social promotions.

Fortunately, I didn't see the others. Are you actually claiming he and
his buddies have a discernable IQ? I didn't realize the test went so
low.


The scale was lowered by 20 points recently to accommodate the
diminished mental abilities of teabaggers.

I'm such a snob - I judge those whose native language is English by
their ability to use English. If they write like morons, I assume they are.

I'm very friendly with a local family of Mexicans who run a nice
restaurant, several of them, actually. Though English is their second
language, all of them speak it better than these bozos write it.
Actually, we practice our Spanish with them, and they're always willing
to help us with an unknown word or idiomatic phrase.

So, does this mean he's above or below drool-level?

Plume really needs to have her head shrunk
 

On 8/5/11 1:42 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/5/2011 1:19 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 1:13 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/5/2011 12:35 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 12:20 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/5/2011 12:08 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 12:05 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
But a lot of it. Say
hi to the Mouse for me, last time we were there Melissa tackled
him;)


Ahh, the well-behaved Ingersoll clan.


Atlas going up in 5 minutes.
BTW FY


Yeah, I have a great interest in Lego astronauts.

We took our kids to Disneyworld and Disneyland a number of times. If my
daughter or son "tackled" one of the Disney character actors, he or she
would have been escorted back to the hotel room for the rest of the day
and maybe for the rest of the visit. Apparently the Ingersoll kids are
going to turn out like their ill-mannered father, who got shoved around
at the police station by...the police.



Lego astronauts? Must be Harry speak for I don't GAS about anything but
Harry Krause.


D'oh. You are interested in the rocket but not in the "crew"?





D'oh. Unmanned rockets don't have crews. Why does it not surprise me
that you didn't know that?


D'oh...

"While this is not a manned mission, the satellite will carry a crew of
three LEGO figures, 1.5-inch-tall likenesses of Galileo Galilei, the
Roman god Jupiter and his wife Juno.

Galileo is credited with several discoveries about Jupiter, including
finding four of its moons. The LEGO figurine will carry a telescope to
salute this.

The mythological Jupiter was a mischief-maker who surrounded himself in
clouds. Juno was able to see through those clouds to see what her
husband was up to. The LEGO Juno will carry a magnifying glass on the
mission while Jupiter carries a lightning bolt.

LEGO is partnering with NASA to promote children's interest in science,
math, engineering and technology."

--
Don't forget to leave a bit of beef for rec.boat's right-wing
conservatrashers and ID spoofers to feed upon. The more they feed, the
quicker rec.boats will fall into the black hole of cyberspace and disappear.

Plume really needs to have her head shrunk
 

On 05/08/2011 11:53 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:57:06 -0600,
wrote:

On 05/08/2011 7:36 AM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X - Man" wrote in message ...


You right-wing circle jerkers wouldn't know "well-reasoned" from
"well-seasoned." You and several of your fellow low IQ righties don't
have the brain power to discern what is well-reasoned and what isn't.
Most of you barely got out of high school. You, Ingersoll, Canuckles,
your buddy the ID spoofer, et cetera, are the best argument against
social promotions.

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Insults aside, there aren't any Ivy League college grads running around
with much of a clue about what to do either, including our wonderful
"leaders" in Congress.

Sometimes common sense serves better than college courses/degrees on
economics, especially when all the traditional rules have changed.

Hate to say it, but there is no simple solution. The revised cry for
"Jobs, Jobs, Jobs" in DC are meaningless. There aren't any.
Any jobs created will be federally funded or subsidized "make work"
programs but there's no money to pay for them.

The real problem is not being addressed. The real solutions are not very
popular to many. Some of the TeaBagger's views unfortunately have some
merit. The USA cannot compete in a global economy like it did since the
end of WWII. Our economic growth was based on internal competition among
companies within the USA, giving rise to artificially high pay and
benefit packages when compared to the rest of the industrialized world.
The rise of countries like China as a major manufacturing country has
changed all that.

Expecting USA based companies to invest in manufacturing facilities in
the USA is a fairy tale. Isn't going to happen as long as they have to
compete with the manufacturing costs overseas. Demands that "Big
Corporations" pay their fair share of taxes sounds good and is justified
but collection of those taxes is a pimple on an elephants ass compared
to the revenues required to pay USA debt, let alone finance "make work"
programs.
Right now 60 percent of Americans receive more federal money and
benefits than they pay in taxes. 50 percent of Americans don't pay taxes
at all and both those percentage numbers are rising.

We may have no choice but to go back to basics. Entitlements will have
to be scaled back as will defense spending, foreign aid and all other
federal spending programs. Families will have to go back to taking care
of each other and pooling resources. Many in Europe and Asia have been
doing that for years.

When the Chinese worker begins to realize that he/she is working for a
fraction of the compensation paid elsewhere in the world and begins to
revolt things may start to change. As it does, an American worker who
used to receive the equivalent of $50 to $90 per hour in pay and
benefits is going to have to adjust to living on half of that. The $300K
house he/she lives in is going to be worth $150K .

Sorry to sound so dismal, but that's how I see it.

Eisboch







What we need is a restructuring of society here so that instead of
"semi-socialistic" we move all the way towards modern European
socialism. Most modern European socialist countries are doing ok, and
their average citizens are doing better than Americans. We have
half-assed socialism here and it doesn't work.

You can move there any time you want, provided you don't have a criminal
past and are not a welfare freeloader.

I have ived in UK and Norway, great places o visit and even work for a
short time while seeing the sights to get some Europe experience.

But be damned if I would want to live there without being filthy rich or
in the insider connected circle.

Funny you like their system, in there system you would be working right
now. They don't have welfare, they have workfare. Most people don't
travel much, can't afford it.

You're the one who wants to move to China. Go for it.

Don't speak Cantonese or Mandarin. But if I did I would. If you knew
that business environment and had 7 digits of cash to invest, you would
be set for life. $100k gets an upscale penthouse condo with low taxes.

--
Seems like paying your bills with real money is no longer the accepted
behavior in USA. Perhaps that is the problem and not the the solution.

Plume really needs to have her head shrunk
 

In article om, "not a
says...

On 8/5/2011 12:49 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 12:45 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:12:24 -0400, BeachBum"not a
wrote:

Why? To fit her brain, of course.

These are her last 7 well *reasoned* posts.

"You have no brain, along with your butt buddy LG.

I didn't know you were talking about ancient history. If that was all
bad, why didn't your Democrats change it when they had the chance?

You want it to though. You've said as much. You're a no-nothing loser.

They're not mutually exclusive

What a load of crap. The "safe" route huh... the moronic route is more
accurate.

Good grief! You can't get much dumber than a little turd, but you've
succeeded!"


And her final gem-------------

"Well, I'm sure your oracle-like traits are just kicking in.

So, how are you going to cash in your $30K wealth? Perhaps illegally
melt down the quarters? I'm still waiting for your reasoned response.

How are you planning on separating the silver from the copper in that
case? To whom do you expect to sell your quarters if not? Are you
going to try and buy a car in quarters?

No, I don't expect any reasoned response."


*P-L-O-N-K*


I stopped feeding the troll.


BeachBum is a troll.


Careful WAFA, or I'll use my powerful PLONK tool on you too. Funny.
Nearly all the labels you put on people fit you to a T. But I do admit
to trolling you now and again, with a 99.9% success rate.

Bull****. Do you think I still talk about loogy and Tosk just because I
am trolling for them to see if they are still paying attention to me?
NO. I talk about them because they are on my mind all of the time. They
both scared me so bad I ****ed my pants.

Plume really needs to have her head shrunk
 

On 8/5/2011 3:04 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 1:42 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/5/2011 1:19 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 1:13 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/5/2011 12:35 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 12:20 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/5/2011 12:08 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 12:05 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
But a lot of it. Say
hi to the Mouse for me, last time we were there Melissa tackled
him;)


Ahh, the well-behaved Ingersoll clan.


Atlas going up in 5 minutes.
BTW FY


Yeah, I have a great interest in Lego astronauts.

We took our kids to Disneyworld and Disneyland a number of times.
If my
daughter or son "tackled" one of the Disney character actors, he or
she
would have been escorted back to the hotel room for the rest of the
day
and maybe for the rest of the visit. Apparently the Ingersoll kids are
going to turn out like their ill-mannered father, who got shoved
around
at the police station by...the police.



Lego astronauts? Must be Harry speak for I don't GAS about anything but
Harry Krause.


D'oh. You are interested in the rocket but not in the "crew"?





D'oh. Unmanned rockets don't have crews. Why does it not surprise me
that you didn't know that?


D'oh...

"While this is not a manned mission, the satellite will carry a crew of
three LEGO figures, 1.5-inch-tall likenesses of Galileo Galilei, the
Roman god Jupiter and his wife Juno.

Galileo is credited with several discoveries about Jupiter, including
finding four of its moons. The LEGO figurine will carry a telescope to
salute this.

The mythological Jupiter was a mischief-maker who surrounded himself in
clouds. Juno was able to see through those clouds to see what her
husband was up to. The LEGO Juno will carry a magnifying glass on the
mission while Jupiter carries a lightning bolt.

LEGO is partnering with NASA to promote children's interest in science,
math, engineering and technology."

A crew? Sounds more like baggage. You are really ouy in La La land.