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I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone. The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power up a fountain. But not until the temps drop. Exciting, eh? A bit of beef for rec.boat's asshole trolls to feed upon. |
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On 8/2/2011 10:32 AM, X - Man wrote:
...non-boating project... I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone. The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power up a fountain. But not until the temps drop. Exciting, eh? A bit of beef for rec.boat's asshole trolls to feed upon. Sorry ex man. Where's the beef. Any project you would undertake on your own would be more like like Pablum for us real men. |
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says... On 8/2/2011 10:32 AM, X - Man wrote: ...non-boating project... I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone. The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power up a fountain. But not until the temps drop. Exciting, eh? A bit of beef for rec.boat's asshole trolls to feed upon. Sorry ex man. Where's the beef. Any project you would undertake on your own would be more like like Pablum for us real men. Well, first, it isn't a "screening bed". It is a bed, and you use screened sand or limestone!!! So, you can tell he's a spoofer, because I know everything! |
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On 8/2/11 10:32 AM, X - Man wrote:
...non-boating project... I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone. The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power up a fountain. But not until the temps drop. Exciting, eh? A bit of beef for rec.boat's asshole trolls to feed upon. By the way, since I haven't been boating since August 2010, I have been saving up my energy and pennies to complete the project. I will post pictures of the paver patio, but don't ask for any boating related photos. |
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On 8/2/2011 11:45 AM, X-Man wrote:
In raweb.com, "not a says... On 8/2/2011 10:32 AM, X - Man wrote: ...non-boating project... I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone. The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power up a fountain. But not until the temps drop. Exciting, eh? A bit of beef for rec.boat's asshole trolls to feed upon. Sorry ex man. Where's the beef. Any project you would undertake on your own would be more like like Pablum for us real men. Well, first, it isn't a "screening bed". It is a bed, and you use screened sand or limestone!!! So, you can tell he's a spoofer, because I know everything! Please! He's fishing for expertise. Let him figure it out on his own or let the bricklayer lady help him. |
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On 8/2/11 12:03 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/2/2011 11:45 AM, X-Man wrote: In raweb.com, "not a says... On 8/2/2011 10:32 AM, X - Man wrote: ...non-boating project... I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone. The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power up a fountain. But not until the temps drop. Exciting, eh? A bit of beef for rec.boat's asshole trolls to feed upon. Sorry ex man. Where's the beef. Any project you would undertake on your own would be more like like Pablum for us real men. Well, first, it isn't a "screening bed". It is a bed, and you use screened sand or limestone!!! So, you can tell he's a spoofer, because I know everything! Please! He's fishing for expertise. Let him figure it out on his own or let the bricklayer lady help him. "A bit of beef for rec.boat's asshole trolls to feed upon." As predicted, the trolls snapped at the bait...it's easier to catch trolls here than it is to buy a fish at a fish market. I've built four patios over the years, three large ones and one small one. This will be number five. If I were searching for "expertise" on *any* boating or construction subject, rec.boats would not be the place I'd look. There are no experts on these subjects here. |
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On 8/2/11 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:32:49 -0400, X - wrote: I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone. The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power up a fountain. But not until the temps drop. We have about 2000 square feet of quartzite granite stone in the screen cage and around the yard. It is over concrete tho. Of you just set stone in the sand you will be fighting grass forever. I suppose if you don't mind spraying poison around every few months you can hold it down We have been doing this over a period of 20 years, a new patch every few years so it wasn't horrible to do. http://gfretwell.com/electrical/addi...0them%20in.jpg The problem with concreting in pavers is the freeze-thaw cycle up here. Even when the concrete is thick enough and reinforced and there are expansion joints, the freeze-thaw cycle sometimes rears its ugly head and large chunks of the paved area rise up or drop down. If pavers on a bed of sand move, it is easy to reposition them. -- Don't forget to leave a bit of beef for rec.boat's right-wing conservatrashers and ID spoofers to feed upon. The more they feed, the quicker rec.boats will fall into the black hole of cyberspace and disappear. |
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On 8/2/2011 12:12 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/2/11 12:03 PM, BeachBum wrote: On 8/2/2011 11:45 AM, X-Man wrote: In raweb.com, "not a says... On 8/2/2011 10:32 AM, X - Man wrote: ...non-boating project... I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone. The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power up a fountain. But not until the temps drop. Exciting, eh? A bit of beef for rec.boat's asshole trolls to feed upon. Sorry ex man. Where's the beef. Any project you would undertake on your own would be more like like Pablum for us real men. Well, first, it isn't a "screening bed". It is a bed, and you use screened sand or limestone!!! So, you can tell he's a spoofer, because I know everything! Please! He's fishing for expertise. Let him figure it out on his own or let the bricklayer lady help him. "A bit of beef for rec.boat's asshole trolls to feed upon." As predicted, the trolls snapped at the bait...it's easier to catch trolls here than it is to buy a fish at a fish market. I've built four patios over the years, three large ones and one small one. This will be number five. If I were searching for "expertise" on *any* boating or construction subject, rec.boats would not be the place I'd look. There are no experts on these subjects here. That was then. This is now. The years haven't been kind to you. You've shrunk, and gotten fat, Your hands look pale and bloated. Are you drinking enough water? And with that Friar Tuck hair do, I'll bet you are a lady killer. By the by; a fish market would be the last place I'd go looking for fresh fish. |
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On 8/2/11 12:53 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/2/2011 12:12 PM, X - Man wrote: On 8/2/11 12:03 PM, BeachBum wrote: On 8/2/2011 11:45 AM, X-Man wrote: In raweb.com, "not a says... On 8/2/2011 10:32 AM, X - Man wrote: ...non-boating project... I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone. The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power up a fountain. But not until the temps drop. Exciting, eh? A bit of beef for rec.boat's asshole trolls to feed upon. Sorry ex man. Where's the beef. Any project you would undertake on your own would be more like like Pablum for us real men. Well, first, it isn't a "screening bed". It is a bed, and you use screened sand or limestone!!! So, you can tell he's a spoofer, because I know everything! Please! He's fishing for expertise. Let him figure it out on his own or let the bricklayer lady help him. "A bit of beef for rec.boat's asshole trolls to feed upon." As predicted, the trolls snapped at the bait...it's easier to catch trolls here than it is to buy a fish at a fish market. I've built four patios over the years, three large ones and one small one. This will be number five. If I were searching for "expertise" on *any* boating or construction subject, rec.boats would not be the place I'd look. There are no experts on these subjects here. That was then. This is now. The years haven't been kind to you. You've shrunk, and gotten fat, Your hands look pale and bloated. Are you drinking enough water? And with that Friar Tuck hair do, I'll bet you are a lady killer. By the by; a fish market would be the last place I'd go looking for fresh fish. You give trolling assholes like "Beach" a bit of beef...and they troll, and troll, and troll, and troll... -- Don't forget to leave a bit of beef for rec.boat's right-wing conservatrashers and ID spoofers to feed upon. The more they feed, the quicker rec.boats will fall into the black hole of cyberspace and disappear. |
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says... On 8/2/11 12:20 PM, wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:32:49 -0400, X - wrote: I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone. The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power up a fountain. But not until the temps drop. We have about 2000 square feet of quartzite granite stone in the screen cage and around the yard. It is over concrete tho. Of you just set stone in the sand you will be fighting grass forever. I suppose if you don't mind spraying poison around every few months you can hold it down We have been doing this over a period of 20 years, a new patch every few years so it wasn't horrible to do. http://gfretwell.com/electrical/addi...0them%20in.jpg Grass growing between the pavers hasn't been a significant problem up here. It has been for a relative in Florida, who built a brick paver walkway between his driveway and his front door. Thanks for the heads-up, but I don't think it will be any more than a petty annoyance, if that. So, tell us, why the geo textile fabric, spoofer? |
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On 8/2/11 1:03 PM, X-Man wrote:
So, tell us, why the geo textile fabric, spoofer? -- Don't forget to leave a bit of beef for rec.boat's right-wing conservatrashers and ID spoofers to feed upon. The more they feed, the quicker rec.boats will fall into the black hole of cyberspace and disappear. |
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On 8/2/2011 1:02 PM, X - Man wrote:
O You give trolling assholes like "Beach" a bit of beef...and they troll, and troll, and troll, and troll... Excellent. They'll keep you entertained all afternoon until the breadwinner comes home from work. |
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On 8/2/11 1:30 PM, A boater wrote:
On 8/2/2011 1:02 PM, X - Man wrote: O You give trolling assholes like "Beach" a bit of beef...and they troll, and troll, and troll, and troll... Excellent. They'll keep you entertained all afternoon until the breadwinner comes home from work. And trolling assholes like "A boater..." who, of course, isn't a boater. -- Don't forget to leave a bit of beef for rec.boat's right-wing conservatrashers and ID spoofers to feed upon. The more they feed, the quicker rec.boats will fall into the black hole of cyberspace and disappear. |
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says... On 8/2/11 12:20 PM, wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:32:49 -0400, X - wrote: I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone. The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power up a fountain. But not until the temps drop. We have about 2000 square feet of quartzite granite stone in the screen cage and around the yard. It is over concrete tho. Of you just set stone in the sand you will be fighting grass forever. I suppose if you don't mind spraying poison around every few months you can hold it down We have been doing this over a period of 20 years, a new patch every few years so it wasn't horrible to do. http://gfretwell.com/electrical/addi...0them%20in.jpg The problem with concreting in pavers is the freeze-thaw cycle up here. Even when the concrete is thick enough and reinforced and there are expansion joints, the freeze-thaw cycle sometimes rears its ugly head and large chunks of the paved area rise up or drop down. If pavers on a bed of sand move, it is easy to reposition them. Wrong, spoofer! You only have to worry about that when the concrete is separating conditioned space to unconditioned space. Why? Well, if you right wing turds new anything, you'd know that the freeze/thaw cycle will move everything equally. Look at your sidewalk as an example. It's certainly not founded below frost depth. |
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On 8/2/11 3:16 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:44:14 -0400, X - wrote: On 8/2/11 12:20 PM, wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:32:49 -0400, X - wrote: I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone. The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power up a fountain. But not until the temps drop. We have about 2000 square feet of quartzite granite stone in the screen cage and around the yard. It is over concrete tho. Of you just set stone in the sand you will be fighting grass forever. I suppose if you don't mind spraying poison around every few months you can hold it down We have been doing this over a period of 20 years, a new patch every few years so it wasn't horrible to do. http://gfretwell.com/electrical/addi...0them%20in.jpg The problem with concreting in pavers is the freeze-thaw cycle up here. Even when the concrete is thick enough and reinforced and there are expansion joints, the freeze-thaw cycle sometimes rears its ugly head and large chunks of the paved area rise up or drop down. If pavers on a bed of sand move, it is easy to reposition them. This is a reinforced 4" slab so cracking has not been a huge problem. Up there, if you are building on that "bank run gravel" and clay substrate cracking was never a problem for me. I had a huge driveway there that never cracked. (my ex still lives there) When I set these stones I used a latex modified mortar that has a bit of give to it so the cracks are not really that bad. The only place I have one is in a section that was destablized when they dug the pool. The crack followed the line of the stone. I keep saying I will grind out the mortar and regrout it now that it stabilized again but it is not very high on my list. The rest has held up fine. The important thing, if you did want to set this on concrete up there is to be sure there are no voids in the mortar that would hold water. I would lay down about an inch of modified type S and bed the stone in, being damned sure I got all the air bubbles out. Then you screed off the excess, wiping down the top of the stone as best you can with a damp grout sponge. Once it has set but is still green, you can detail the stone getting the rest off. After a month or so you can finish it with your pressure washer, getting off anything you missed. I have to say, with 2 decades of service out of this, it is the perfect patio/pool deck. It gives very good footing when it is wet. It is pretty much maintenance free. We pressure clean it once or twice a year but with the wide fan spray so it goes real fast. Too much work. As I said, I've built patios before, pavers on sand, and had no serious problems. |
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:20:09 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:32:49 -0400, X - Man wrote: I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone. The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power up a fountain. But not until the temps drop. We have about 2000 square feet of quartzite granite stone in the screen cage and around the yard. It is over concrete tho. Of you just set stone in the sand you will be fighting grass forever. I suppose if you don't mind spraying poison around every few months you can hold it down We have been doing this over a period of 20 years, a new patch every few years so it wasn't horrible to do. http://gfretwell.com/electrical/addi...0them%20in.jpg You can put week block under the sand or gravel base to keep plants at bay. Anything that does grow is easy to pull. |
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On 8/2/11 10:37 PM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:20:09 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:32:49 -0400, X - wrote: I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone. The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power up a fountain. But not until the temps drop. We have about 2000 square feet of quartzite granite stone in the screen cage and around the yard. It is over concrete tho. Of you just set stone in the sand you will be fighting grass forever. I suppose if you don't mind spraying poison around every few months you can hold it down We have been doing this over a period of 20 years, a new patch every few years so it wasn't horrible to do. http://gfretwell.com/electrical/addi...0them%20in.jpg You can put week block under the sand or gravel base to keep plants at bay. Anything that does grow is easy to pull. I don't anticipate any serious ongoing maintenance problems after the pavers are installed. One of my long-time friends who lives in Old Town, Alexandria, has a house built just after the Civil War that features a brick patio put in at the same time the house was built. The patio is brick on sand. It still looks good. Once in a while he gets a little moss between some of the joints. The moss just adds to the character of the patio. |
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On 8/3/2011 6:28 AM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/2/11 10:37 PM, jps wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:20:09 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:32:49 -0400, X - wrote: I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone. The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power up a fountain. But not until the temps drop. We have about 2000 square feet of quartzite granite stone in the screen cage and around the yard. It is over concrete tho. Of you just set stone in the sand you will be fighting grass forever. I suppose if you don't mind spraying poison around every few months you can hold it down We have been doing this over a period of 20 years, a new patch every few years so it wasn't horrible to do. http://gfretwell.com/electrical/addi...0them%20in.jpg You can put week block under the sand or gravel base to keep plants at bay. Anything that does grow is easy to pull. I don't anticipate any serious ongoing maintenance problems after the pavers are installed. One of my long-time friends who lives in Old Town, Alexandria, has a house built just after the Civil War that features a brick patio put in at the same time the house was built. The patio is brick on sand. It still looks good. Once in a while he gets a little moss between some of the joints. The moss just adds to the character of the patio. Like that little fringe of hair that circles that pumpkin like head of yours. Adds character indeed. |
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On 8/3/11 8:08 AM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/3/2011 6:28 AM, X - Man wrote: On 8/2/11 10:37 PM, jps wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:20:09 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:32:49 -0400, X - wrote: I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone. The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power up a fountain. But not until the temps drop. We have about 2000 square feet of quartzite granite stone in the screen cage and around the yard. It is over concrete tho. Of you just set stone in the sand you will be fighting grass forever. I suppose if you don't mind spraying poison around every few months you can hold it down We have been doing this over a period of 20 years, a new patch every few years so it wasn't horrible to do. http://gfretwell.com/electrical/addi...0them%20in.jpg You can put week block under the sand or gravel base to keep plants at bay. Anything that does grow is easy to pull. I don't anticipate any serious ongoing maintenance problems after the pavers are installed. One of my long-time friends who lives in Old Town, Alexandria, has a house built just after the Civil War that features a brick patio put in at the same time the house was built. The patio is brick on sand. It still looks good. Once in a while he gets a little moss between some of the joints. The moss just adds to the character of the patio. Like that little fringe of hair that circles that pumpkin like head of yours. Adds character indeed. Actually, I have more than a little fringe up there...but what I have is a lot better than the hair still stuck between your teeth from your days servicing sailors in the shipboard showers, eh? -- Don't forget to leave a bit of beef for rec.boat's right-wing conservatrashers and ID spoofers to feed upon. The more they feed, the quicker rec.boats will fall into the black hole of cyberspace and disappear. |
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On 8/3/2011 8:11 AM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/3/11 8:08 AM, BeachBum wrote: On 8/3/2011 6:28 AM, X - Man wrote: On 8/2/11 10:37 PM, jps wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:20:09 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:32:49 -0400, X - wrote: I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone. The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power up a fountain. But not until the temps drop. We have about 2000 square feet of quartzite granite stone in the screen cage and around the yard. It is over concrete tho. Of you just set stone in the sand you will be fighting grass forever. I suppose if you don't mind spraying poison around every few months you can hold it down We have been doing this over a period of 20 years, a new patch every few years so it wasn't horrible to do. http://gfretwell.com/electrical/addi...0them%20in.jpg You can put week block under the sand or gravel base to keep plants at bay. Anything that does grow is easy to pull. I don't anticipate any serious ongoing maintenance problems after the pavers are installed. One of my long-time friends who lives in Old Town, Alexandria, has a house built just after the Civil War that features a brick patio put in at the same time the house was built. The patio is brick on sand. It still looks good. Once in a while he gets a little moss between some of the joints. The moss just adds to the character of the patio. Like that little fringe of hair that circles that pumpkin like head of yours. Adds character indeed. Actually, I have more than a little fringe up there...but what I have is a lot better than the hair still stuck between your teeth from your days servicing sailors in the shipboard showers, eh? How much fringe do you actually have up there, Mr Magoo. I'll bet you got that way from those burly bricklayers patting the top of your head while you thanked in your own special way. Between you and the missus you must have satisfied the entire DC area brick laying gang. |
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On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:00:48 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:37:31 -0700, jps wrote: We have about 2000 square feet of quartzite granite stone in the screen cage and around the yard. It is over concrete tho. Of you just set stone in the sand you will be fighting grass forever. I suppose if you don't mind spraying poison around every few months you can hold it down We have been doing this over a period of 20 years, a new patch every few years so it wasn't horrible to do. http://gfretwell.com/electrical/addi...0them%20in.jpg You can put week block under the sand or gravel base to keep plants at bay. Anything that does grow is easy to pull. I guess that is OK if you like pulling weeds. Glad you understood that I meant to write "weed block." No, don't like pulling weeds but it's amazingly easy with the weed block in there. Roots and all come up easily and nothing that requires a tap root will grow through the block. Most offenders have surface roots and are pulled up easily. |
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On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 16:18:24 -0700, jps wrote: On Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:00:48 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 19:37:31 -0700, jps wrote: We have about 2000 square feet of quartzite granite stone in the screen cage and around the yard. It is over concrete tho. Of you just set stone in the sand you will be fighting grass forever. I suppose if you don't mind spraying poison around every few months you can hold it down We have been doing this over a period of 20 years, a new patch every few years so it wasn't horrible to do. http://gfretwell.com/electrical/addi...0them%20in.jpg You can put week block under the sand or gravel base to keep plants at bay. Anything that does grow is easy to pull. I guess that is OK if you like pulling weeds. Glad you understood that I meant to write "weed block." No, don't like pulling weeds but it's amazingly easy with the weed block in there. Roots and all come up easily and nothing that requires a tap root will grow through the block. Most offenders have surface roots and are pulled up easily. Pavers are a real popular thing here and my wife has at least an acre of them around the country club she manages.All the houses she built had a lot of pavers. That is why I have a brick shed house. http://gfretwell.com/electrical/bric...ed%20house.jpg Weeds do seem to be an issue here.. Weed cloth may help but a lot of the grassy stuff we have here doesn't seem to need much dirt to grow in. The other issue is ants. They really seem to like living under pavers and they will exploit any little hole they can find in your weed cloth assuming they don't just chew one. I know it won't stop them. I suppose living in a place where the ground freezes might mitigate all of this. Reply: Neighbor uses salt water on his pavers 2x a year and seems to have the weeds licked. |
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says... On 8/4/11 12:30 PM, wrote: On Wed, 3 Aug 2011 23:03:42 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: Reply: Neighbor uses salt water on his pavers 2x a year and seems to have the weeds licked. Interesting idea, as long as you don't have salt water tolerant weeds. I am looking into doing my yard with Seashore Paspalum grass. My wife's golf course experimented with it and it was OK there but the old timer "grass boys" resisted it. The advantage for me is I could irrigate with tide water and to the best of my knowledge that is not subject to watering restrictions. It would be an interesting case if they tried to get me. Would that make your yard smell like...low tide? :) Pouring salt on pavers is not a terrific idea. While the typical efflorescence problems that sometimes occur with brick are based upon salt leeching out of masonry units and settling on their surface, the white stuff can also occur because of salt poured on the units and the water carrying them evaporating. Also, as you know brick are porous, so the salt can get inside them...and then leech out. There's also a problem pouring salt on concrete products...it's called secondary efflorescence. Boy, that spoofer sure knows how to google, eh? You do realize, spoofer, that there are many, many reasons for efflorescence don't you? And to address your google cut and paste, there are three things that must occur to cause a cementitious unit to show signs of efflorescence. One of those is simply the presence of ALKALI salts. Secondly, enough moisture to render the salts into a soluble solution. Then, a path to the surface. Washing pavers once in awhile with salt water will NOT soak the units enough to do this. |
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