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On 8/2/11 12:20 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 10:32:49 -0400, X -
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I'm going to put a stone paver patio in under part of the deck at the
rear of the house. About 130 square feet. Going to use J.P. Henry stone.

The rough part is excavating out about 7" of compacted soil, so I'm
going to contract that out. The rest is a lot of work, but not
back-breaking...layer of geo textile, 4" to 5" of base that I'll compact
with a rental compactor, then an inch of sand as a screening bed, and
then the pavers. Also have to rent a ditch witch to dig 50' trenches for
two downspouts and a trench for electrical conduit for wiring to power
up a fountain.

But not until the temps drop.

We have about 2000 square feet of quartzite granite stone in the
screen cage and around the yard. It is over concrete tho. Of you just
set stone in the sand you will be fighting grass forever. I suppose if
you don't mind spraying poison around every few months you can hold it
down

We have been doing this over a period of 20 years, a new patch every
few years so it wasn't horrible to do.

http://gfretwell.com/electrical/addi...0them%20in.jpg

The problem with concreting in pavers is the freeze-thaw cycle up here.
Even when the concrete is thick enough and reinforced and there are
expansion joints, the freeze-thaw cycle sometimes rears its ugly head
and large chunks of the paved area rise up or drop down. If pavers on a
bed of sand move, it is easy to reposition them.

Wrong, spoofer! You only have to worry about that when the concrete is
separating conditioned space to unconditioned space. Why? Well, if you
right wing turds new anything, you'd know that the freeze/thaw cycle
will move everything equally. Look at your sidewalk as an example. It's
certainly not founded below frost depth.