Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

....interesting.

Stopped off in Chesapeake Beach for a look-see (lotsa damage and mess
from Isabel) and was pleased to see virtually everyone is back in business.

Got invited aboard a spanking new Grady-White 33' Express powered by two
250 hp Yamaha outboards, and took a ride out into the Bay for about a
half hour. It's an absolutely fabulous fishing machine, with a great
command console, hardtop and cabin, plus a huge, flat cockpit. The water
was pretty flat, but we did cross a couple of wakes - fast - and the
boat handled them nicely. We were top-ending somewhere in the mid-40's
(mph), which is faster than most of the twin inboard express fishing
boats I've seen.

Not the kind of boat I'd buy; I'm not that serious a fisherman anymore,
but if I were in the market for a rig in that category, I'd sure
consider it, and I usually do not like outboards on larger, 30+ boats.

Went to visit the lobster boat on her cradle and now am trying to decide
whether to splash her for the remainder of the season or store and seal
her up until next spring. Our season here ends as far as I am concerned
about mid-November, and unless it actually is snowing, starts up again
about the first week of April.

Finished up the boating day with a visit to the marina, but didn't run
into JohnH, who apparently stays away from the water on the weekends.
The marina had minor damage from the storm, including about 2 feet of
water in the clubhouse and office. They've stripped out the carpeting
and are getting back to business.

Minor modification on Yo Ho. Parker installs 12" windshield wiper blades
on the boat and when you need the wipers, they clear a mighty small
chunk of glass. So I wrestled the old bladeholders off, and installed
14" bladeholders and blades. They fit with an 1/8" to spare at the top
of the aluminum window frame.

I was going to take her out for a ride, but a guy loading up on a
trailer told me there was a lot of floating debris still in the Bay,
left over from Isabel, and some of it consisted of substantial logs
floating just barely breaking the surface. Hitting one of those would
not be a way to make one's day.

And what boating adventures did you guys have today?



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Diddly today.
Busy battening down for Juan. I did go to a local beach to watch about 20
nuts play in the heavy surf stirred up by the hurricane and checked out a
few boat launches on a local lake that the in-laws own property on.

Harry Krause wrote in message
...
...interesting.

Stopped off in Chesapeake Beach for a look-see (lotsa damage and mess
from Isabel) and was pleased to see virtually everyone is back in
business.

Got invited aboard a spanking new Grady-White 33' Express powered by two
250 hp Yamaha outboards, and took a ride out into the Bay for about a
half hour. It's an absolutely fabulous fishing machine, with a great
command console, hardtop and cabin, plus a huge, flat cockpit. The water
was pretty flat, but we did cross a couple of wakes - fast - and the
boat handled them nicely. We were top-ending somewhere in the mid-40's
(mph), which is faster than most of the twin inboard express fishing
boats I've seen.

Not the kind of boat I'd buy; I'm not that serious a fisherman anymore,
but if I were in the market for a rig in that category, I'd sure
consider it, and I usually do not like outboards on larger, 30+ boats.

Went to visit the lobster boat on her cradle and now am trying to decide
whether to splash her for the remainder of the season or store and seal
her up until next spring. Our season here ends as far as I am concerned
about mid-November, and unless it actually is snowing, starts up again
about the first week of April.

Finished up the boating day with a visit to the marina, but didn't run
into JohnH, who apparently stays away from the water on the weekends.
The marina had minor damage from the storm, including about 2 feet of
water in the clubhouse and office. They've stripped out the carpeting
and are getting back to business.

Minor modification on Yo Ho. Parker installs 12" windshield wiper blades
on the boat and when you need the wipers, they clear a mighty small
chunk of glass. So I wrestled the old bladeholders off, and installed
14" bladeholders and blades. They fit with an 1/8" to spare at the top
of the aluminum window frame.

I was going to take her out for a ride, but a guy loading up on a
trailer told me there was a lot of floating debris still in the Bay,
left over from Isabel, and some of it consisted of substantial logs
floating just barely breaking the surface. Hitting one of those would
not be a way to make one's day.

And what boating adventures did you guys have today?



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Went grouper digging on a 43' Torres. Caught about 100 fish. Of those we
had 2 keeper gags, a keeper red grouper, 3 large spanish macks, and a mess
of snapper and grunts. Best part of the day was watching the 72 year old
captain turn the single screw full keel boat around in a canal that was only
about 65' wide...and then parallel park her next to million dollar boats.

BTW--the boat didn't have a bow thruster.



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
...interesting.

Stopped off in Chesapeake Beach for a look-see (lotsa damage and mess
from Isabel) and was pleased to see virtually everyone is back in
business.

Got invited aboard a spanking new Grady-White 33' Express powered by two
250 hp Yamaha outboards, and took a ride out into the Bay for about a
half hour. It's an absolutely fabulous fishing machine, with a great
command console, hardtop and cabin, plus a huge, flat cockpit. The water
was pretty flat, but we did cross a couple of wakes - fast - and the
boat handled them nicely. We were top-ending somewhere in the mid-40's
(mph), which is faster than most of the twin inboard express fishing
boats I've seen.

Not the kind of boat I'd buy; I'm not that serious a fisherman anymore,
but if I were in the market for a rig in that category, I'd sure
consider it, and I usually do not like outboards on larger, 30+ boats.

Went to visit the lobster boat on her cradle and now am trying to decide
whether to splash her for the remainder of the season or store and seal
her up until next spring. Our season here ends as far as I am concerned
about mid-November, and unless it actually is snowing, starts up again
about the first week of April.

Finished up the boating day with a visit to the marina, but didn't run
into JohnH, who apparently stays away from the water on the weekends.
The marina had minor damage from the storm, including about 2 feet of
water in the clubhouse and office. They've stripped out the carpeting
and are getting back to business.

Minor modification on Yo Ho. Parker installs 12" windshield wiper blades
on the boat and when you need the wipers, they clear a mighty small
chunk of glass. So I wrestled the old bladeholders off, and installed
14" bladeholders and blades. They fit with an 1/8" to spare at the top
of the aluminum window frame.

I was going to take her out for a ride, but a guy loading up on a
trailer told me there was a lot of floating debris still in the Bay,
left over from Isabel, and some of it consisted of substantial logs
floating just barely breaking the surface. Hitting one of those would
not be a way to make one's day.

And what boating adventures did you guys have today?



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NOYB wrote:

Went grouper digging on a 43' Torres. Caught about 100 fish. Of those we
had 2 keeper gags, a keeper red grouper, 3 large spanish macks, and a mess
of snapper and grunts. Best part of the day was watching the 72 year old
captain turn the single screw full keel boat around in a canal that was only
about 65' wide...and then parallel park her next to million dollar boats.

BTW--the boat didn't have a bow thruster.



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
...interesting.

Stopped off in Chesapeake Beach for a look-see (lotsa damage and mess
from Isabel) and was pleased to see virtually everyone is back in
business.

Got invited aboard a spanking new Grady-White 33' Express powered by two
250 hp Yamaha outboards, and took a ride out into the Bay for about a
half hour. It's an absolutely fabulous fishing machine, with a great
command console, hardtop and cabin, plus a huge, flat cockpit. The water
was pretty flat, but we did cross a couple of wakes - fast - and the
boat handled them nicely. We were top-ending somewhere in the mid-40's
(mph), which is faster than most of the twin inboard express fishing
boats I've seen.


There's no doubt Florida fishing is some of the best in the world.
Compared to Florida fishing, the fishing in Chesapeake Bay...sucks. The
"big" fish in the Bay, the one almost everyone seems to target, is the
striped bass. Never been one of my favorites. Fortunately, the Atlantic
Ocean via Virginia Beach is only four to five hours away, and the
fishing right around that area is very good. But still not Florida.

Looks like I'll be down in Bal Harbour in February or March for
meetings. Fishing will be on my agenda.



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The fishing is good, but it's awfully hard to catch a "keeper" unless you
travel quite a way offshore. I did manage to get a 24" gag yesterday about
3 1/2 miles offshore, but that was the first "keeper" gag I caught on my
boat in almost 2 years. I usually stay within 8 miles of shore when I'm on
my boat, but we went out to about 18 miles today. Even out 18-25 miles, you
still only catch one "keeper" per 40 or 50 fish you pull up. Snook have an
even tougher limit. The "slot limit" is 26-34", and the season is closed a
good part of December and January, and from May 1 through August 31st. I've
caught plenty of slot snook in the closed seasons, and plenty of non-slot
snook in the open seasons. It's almost scary how often that happens.

If you're trying to get dinner, it sucks. But at least there are plenty of
fish to catch for "sport". I've turned into one helluva catch 'n release
guy in the 4 years I've lived down here. Now, I no longer base "success" on
whether or not I get a "keeper"...which makes me appreciate hooking a 27"
jack crevalle, 80 lb. tarpon, or 10 pound bonito. You wouldn't want to eat
any of those...but the excitement of hooking one really gets your heart rate
going.

Before you go to Bal Harbour, go to www.floridasportsman.com. Go to the "FS
Fishing Forums" link, click on the "South Florida" section, and see what's
biting. The guys on the FS forums are some of the most knowledgeable
fisherman on the water. In fact, many are guides, and some write articles
for Florida Sportsman. Don't expect to get GPS numbers for honey holes, but
you'll be able to get up-to-the-minute fishing reports...including what's
biting, general location, what kind of bait/lures, and what part of the
tide. If you're polite enough, you might get invited on a member's boat
(just split the gas/bait bill) or even get a few GPS numbers via Instant
Messaging. Just don't bring up the fact you're a liberal Democrat. The
boards are 4 to 1 conservatives to liberals...and most of the liberals seem
to fish from kayaks or land. ;-)


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

Went grouper digging on a 43' Torres. Caught about 100 fish. Of those
we
had 2 keeper gags, a keeper red grouper, 3 large spanish macks, and a
mess
of snapper and grunts. Best part of the day was watching the 72 year
old
captain turn the single screw full keel boat around in a canal that was
only
about 65' wide...and then parallel park her next to million dollar
boats.

BTW--the boat didn't have a bow thruster.



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
...interesting.

Stopped off in Chesapeake Beach for a look-see (lotsa damage and mess
from Isabel) and was pleased to see virtually everyone is back in
business.

Got invited aboard a spanking new Grady-White 33' Express powered by
two
250 hp Yamaha outboards, and took a ride out into the Bay for about a
half hour. It's an absolutely fabulous fishing machine, with a great
command console, hardtop and cabin, plus a huge, flat cockpit. The
water
was pretty flat, but we did cross a couple of wakes - fast - and the
boat handled them nicely. We were top-ending somewhere in the mid-40's
(mph), which is faster than most of the twin inboard express fishing
boats I've seen.


There's no doubt Florida fishing is some of the best in the world.
Compared to Florida fishing, the fishing in Chesapeake Bay...sucks. The
"big" fish in the Bay, the one almost everyone seems to target, is the
striped bass. Never been one of my favorites. Fortunately, the Atlantic
Ocean via Virginia Beach is only four to five hours away, and the
fishing right around that area is very good. But still not Florida.

Looks like I'll be down in Bal Harbour in February or March for
meetings. Fishing will be on my agenda.



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NOYB wrote:


Before you go to Bal Harbour, go to www.floridasportsman.com. Go to the "FS
Fishing Forums" link, click on the "South Florida" section, and see what's
biting. The guys on the FS forums are some of the most knowledgeable
fisherman on the water. In fact, many are guides, and some write articles
for Florida Sportsman. Don't expect to get GPS numbers for honey holes, but
you'll be able to get up-to-the-minute fishing reports...including what's
biting, general location, what kind of bait/lures, and what part of the
tide. If you're polite enough, you might get invited on a member's boat
(just split the gas/bait bill) or even get a few GPS numbers via Instant
Messaging. Just don't bring up the fact you're a liberal Democrat. The
boards are 4 to 1 conservatives to liberals...and most of the liberals seem
to fish from kayaks or land. ;-)



Not to worry; I have union buddies with fishing boats all over South
Florida. Anyway, you really don't have to go very far offshore in the
Bal Harbour area to find bottom structure and keeper fish. A mile or so
will do it.



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Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

For offshore fishing, the East Coast is better because you don't have to run
out as far. The backwaters of the Ten Thousand Islands and Pine Island
Sound make Southwest Florida a better destination for inshore species,
however...snook, redfish, and tarpon.

With all due respect to your "union buddies", I'd still recommend going to
the FS forum for some of the most thorough and current info. Remember, your
"union buddies" are *working* M-F...not fishing. The guys on the forum are
out there almost every day...or are talking to guys that are out there every
day.







"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:


Before you go to Bal Harbour, go to www.floridasportsman.com. Go to the
"FS
Fishing Forums" link, click on the "South Florida" section, and see
what's
biting. The guys on the FS forums are some of the most knowledgeable
fisherman on the water. In fact, many are guides, and some write
articles
for Florida Sportsman. Don't expect to get GPS numbers for honey holes,
but
you'll be able to get up-to-the-minute fishing reports...including
what's
biting, general location, what kind of bait/lures, and what part of the
tide. If you're polite enough, you might get invited on a member's boat
(just split the gas/bait bill) or even get a few GPS numbers via Instant
Messaging. Just don't bring up the fact you're a liberal Democrat. The
boards are 4 to 1 conservatives to liberals...and most of the liberals
seem
to fish from kayaks or land. ;-)



Not to worry; I have union buddies with fishing boats all over South
Florida. Anyway, you really don't have to go very far offshore in the
Bal Harbour area to find bottom structure and keeper fish. A mile or so
will do it.



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"NOYB" wrote in message
om...
Best part of the day was watching the 72 year old
captain turn the single screw full keel boat around in a canal that was
only
about 65' wide...and then parallel park her next to million dollar boats.

BTW--the boat didn't have a bow thruster.

I love watching folks who can really handle a boat. I used to be a deckhand
on the tugs on the Columbia and Willamette Rivers. I remember one skipper
in particular who was so gentle on the throttle, even though he had about
3500 hp in three screws at his disposal. He would bring the push boat up to
the stern of a barge, and the boat would literally glide to a stop about 1/2
inch from the barge. And he could do it every time. He was a master "boat
skinner" and a great guy.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

NOYB wrote:

The fishing is good, but it's awfully hard to catch a "keeper" unless you
travel quite a way offshore. I did manage to get a 24" gag yesterday

Well that's certainly good news. Been waiting for somebody to come along and
gag ya, Doc. :-) (just jokin')

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:42:09 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

...interesting.

Stopped off in Chesapeake Beach for a look-see (lotsa damage and mess
from Isabel) and was pleased to see virtually everyone is back in business.

Got invited aboard a spanking new Grady-White 33' Express powered by two
250 hp Yamaha outboards, and took a ride out into the Bay for about a
half hour. It's an absolutely fabulous fishing machine, with a great
command console, hardtop and cabin, plus a huge, flat cockpit. The water
was pretty flat, but we did cross a couple of wakes - fast - and the
boat handled them nicely. We were top-ending somewhere in the mid-40's
(mph), which is faster than most of the twin inboard express fishing
boats I've seen.

Not the kind of boat I'd buy; I'm not that serious a fisherman anymore,
but if I were in the market for a rig in that category, I'd sure
consider it, and I usually do not like outboards on larger, 30+ boats.

Went to visit the lobster boat on her cradle and now am trying to decide
whether to splash her for the remainder of the season or store and seal
her up until next spring. Our season here ends as far as I am concerned
about mid-November, and unless it actually is snowing, starts up again
about the first week of April.

Finished up the boating day with a visit to the marina, but didn't run
into JohnH, who apparently stays away from the water on the weekends.
The marina had minor damage from the storm, including about 2 feet of
water in the clubhouse and office. They've stripped out the carpeting
and are getting back to business.

Minor modification on Yo Ho. Parker installs 12" windshield wiper blades
on the boat and when you need the wipers, they clear a mighty small
chunk of glass. So I wrestled the old bladeholders off, and installed
14" bladeholders and blades. They fit with an 1/8" to spare at the top
of the aluminum window frame.

I was going to take her out for a ride, but a guy loading up on a
trailer told me there was a lot of floating debris still in the Bay,
left over from Isabel, and some of it consisted of substantial logs
floating just barely breaking the surface. Hitting one of those would
not be a way to make one's day.

And what boating adventures did you guys have today?

I had gone up on Tuesday to check things out. Took the motorcycle, which went
on reserve on the way up to Deale. Thinking I'd get gas in Deale, I just kept
going. The guys were scraping mud off the floor in the workshop area, all but
two of the slips were empty, and the lot was full of boats. They had done a lot
of work getting the boats out of the water. I don't know if they charged for
this or not, but it had to have been a tremendous effort.

On Saturday I called to see if my boat could be put in the water. My brother,
from Seattle area, was visiting, and I thought we'd just go for a ride. Well,
Lynn said the boatel was still packed with boats, but that she's call if they
could work their way to the back end and get my boat out. She didn't call.

I called this AM, Tuesday, and they say they'll be able to get my boat out
today. My boat is all the way at the end of the boatel on the third level. Well
out of harm's way, unless the building goes down.

I don't fish on weekends during the summer because it's just too damn crowded
out there. I'll be fishing the weekends this fall though.




John
On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD

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"NOYB" wrote in message
om...

If you're trying to get dinner, it sucks. But at least there are plenty
of
fish to catch for "sport". I've turned into one helluva catch 'n release
guy in the 4 years I've lived down here.

That's probably why you don't see any large fish. There's too many
goofballs out there catching and releasing -- and killing a good percentage
in the process.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...

On Saturday I called to see if my boat could be put in the water. My
brother,
from Seattle area, was visiting, and I thought we'd just go for a ride.

Oh no, he's from the "Seattle area."

Seattleites tend to be liberal...I'm guessing if he's your brother doesn't
live in the city...

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

Oh no, he's from the "Seattle area."

Seattleites tend to be liberal...I'm guessing if he's your brother doesn't
live in the city...

Liberals? Here in Seattle? Who'd a thunkit? What do you suppose they look like?
:-)

Seriously, though, it's always fun to take friends and family from out of town
for a boat ride. Every place in the country has its own unique beauty....(but
it can be more difficult to find that beauty in some of them).

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
om...


That's probably why you don't see any large fish. There's too many
goofballs out there catching and releasing -- and killing a good
percentage
in the process.


I knew you were a liberal Democrat...but are you a PETA freak too?

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
om...

If you're trying to get dinner, it sucks. But at least there are plenty
of
fish to catch for "sport". I've turned into one helluva catch 'n
release
guy in the 4 years I've lived down here.

That's probably why you don't see any large fish. There's too many
goofballs out there catching and releasing -- and killing a good
percentage
in the process.

Careful now. If you start attacking fisherman, you won't have Harry around
to fight your battles for you. In other words, you'll be in new, uncharted
waters.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

Are you talking about Harry "Catch and Release Them" Krause?


"jps" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
om...

If you're trying to get dinner, it sucks. But at least there are plenty
of
fish to catch for "sport". I've turned into one helluva catch 'n
release
guy in the 4 years I've lived down here.

That's probably why you don't see any large fish. There's too many
goofballs out there catching and releasing -- and killing a good
percentage
in the process.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

Without Harry and his attaboy's and high 5's where would jps be?


"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"jps" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
om...

If you're trying to get dinner, it sucks. But at least there are
plenty
of
fish to catch for "sport". I've turned into one helluva catch 'n
release
guy in the 4 years I've lived down here.

That's probably why you don't see any large fish. There's too many
goofballs out there catching and releasing -- and killing a good
percentage
in the process.

Careful now. If you start attacking fisherman, you won't have Harry
around
to fight your battles for you. In other words, you'll be in new,
uncharted
waters.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

Actually, it's "Catch-and-crush-their-legs-with-your-pickup" Krause


"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:mJieb.470933$cF.152373@rwcrnsc53...
Are you talking about Harry "Catch and Release Them" Krause?


"jps" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
om...

If you're trying to get dinner, it sucks. But at least there are
plenty
of
fish to catch for "sport". I've turned into one helluva catch 'n
release
guy in the 4 years I've lived down here.

That's probably why you don't see any large fish. There's too many
goofballs out there catching and releasing -- and killing a good
percentage
in the process.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

Careful now. If you start attacking fisherman, you won't have Harry
around
to fight your battles for you. In other words, you'll be in new,
uncharted
waters.

Fishermen get no dispensation from me. Killing things for sport isn't cool,
and it's certainly not "conservative."

If you're fishing to eat, that's okay by me. If one out of 50 fish are big
enough to eat, that's not fishing to eat. Time to try another hole.

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"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:mJieb.470933$cF.152373@rwcrnsc53...

Are you talking about Harry "Catch and Release Them" Krause?

Whomever fits the description.

Are you brave enough to step away from any of your mentors in the White
House?

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

jps wrote:

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:mJieb.470933$cF.152373@rwcrnsc53...

Are you talking about Harry "Catch and Release Them" Krause?

Whomever fits the description.

Are you brave enough to step away from any of your mentors in the White
House?




It's going to be fun watching the Bush-shippers squirm for a few days
until they get their lies straight about outing the CIA agent. Treason,
of course, is far less serious than lying about a blow job, eh?

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jps wrote:

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:mJieb.470933$cF.152373@rwcrnsc53...

Are you talking about Harry "Catch and Release Them" Krause?

Whomever fits the description.

Are you brave enough to step away from any of your mentors in the White
House?




It's going to be fun watching the Bush-shippers squirm for a few days
until they get their lies straight about outing the CIA agent. Treason,
of course, is far less serious than lying about a blow job, eh?

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Let's actually get some facts straight. If she is an analyst and not a
covert agent, no law was broken. The reporter who posted her name, said it
was not the White House, but her husband who stated the fact. Now where was
the outrage when the last administration illegally released tax returns on
one women that accused WJC and personnel records of another? As well as
illegally having FBI files.

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gyps, I have no mentor in the White House.


"jps" wrote in message
...
"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:mJieb.470933$cF.152373@rwcrnsc53...

Are you talking about Harry "Catch and Release Them" Krause?

Whomever fits the description.

Are you brave enough to step away from any of your mentors in the White
House?

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
hlink.net...

Careful now. If you start attacking fisherman, you won't have Harry
around
to fight your battles for you. In other words, you'll be in new,
uncharted
waters.

Fishermen get no dispensation from me. Killing things for sport isn't
cool,
and it's certainly not "conservative."

If you're fishing to eat, that's okay by me. If one out of 50 fish are
big
enough to eat, that's not fishing to eat. Time to try another hole.


You really don't have a clue. No responsible sport fisherman is out
*killing* fish for sport. Practicing tried and true catch and release
techniques virtually guarantees the survival of your catch.

Use circle hooks so you gut-hook fewer fish.
Use a wet rag when handling them.
Revive your catch before throwing them back.
Properly vent bottom fish before releasing them.

Five people went fishing the other day. We caught upwards of 100 fish...and
all but one swam off in good health when released. We also kept 3 grouper,
3 mackeral, a couple of dozen grunts, and a couple of dozen snapper for
dinner. I had enough for lunch and dinner that day...and another couple of
pounds went into the freezer. Nothing glutinous.

As for "keeping 1 out of 50"...it's because the regulations are set up that
way. They set the parameters so that most fish are released and can
rejuvenate the populations.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

You're accusing the President of leaking the name to Novak? Where's your
proof he was involved?

My proof about Clinton's lies have been caught on tape.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
jps wrote:

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:mJieb.470933$cF.152373@rwcrnsc53...

Are you talking about Harry "Catch and Release Them" Krause?

Whomever fits the description.

Are you brave enough to step away from any of your mentors in the White
House?




It's going to be fun watching the Bush-shippers squirm for a few days
until they get their lies straight about outing the CIA agent. Treason,
of course, is far less serious than lying about a blow job, eh?

--
* * *
email sent to will *never* get to me.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

Let's actually get some facts straight. If she is an analyst and not a
covert agent, no law was broken. The reporter who posted her name, said
it
was not the White House, but her husband who stated the fact.


I think *you* need to straighten your facts out...


Point 1

There is nothing to the argument that, since she was an analyst, she was not
covert. In fact, she was.

The statute includes three other elements necessary to obtain a conviction:
that the disclosure was intentional, the accused knew the person being
identified was a covert agent and the accused also knew that "the United
States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's
intelligence relationship to the United States."
The law says no person other than the one accused of leaking the information
can be prosecuted, a provision that would protect journalists who report
leaked classified information identifying a covert agent. But there is one
exception to that protection.

The measure says people who engage in a "pattern of activities" intended to
identify covert agents and who have "reason to believe that such activities
would impair or impede the foreign intelligence activities of the United
States" can be prosecuted.



Point 2

On CNN's "Crossfire" on Monday, Novak said he learned Plame's identity from
two senior Bush administration officials in the course of researching an
article about Wilson.


Point 3

Check your sources and hang up the bluff routine.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
om...

Five people went fishing the other day. We caught upwards of 100
fish...and
all but one swam off in good health when released. We also kept 3
grouper,
3 mackeral, a couple of dozen grunts, and a couple of dozen snapper for
dinner. I had enough for lunch and dinner that day...and another couple
of
pounds went into the freezer. Nothing glutinous.

I've seen plenty of fish float to the surface after darting off, technique
or no technique.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

You mean...er...ummm....you fish?


"jps" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
om...

Five people went fishing the other day. We caught upwards of 100
fish...and
all but one swam off in good health when released. We also kept 3
grouper,
3 mackeral, a couple of dozen grunts, and a couple of dozen snapper for
dinner. I had enough for lunch and dinner that day...and another couple
of
pounds went into the freezer. Nothing glutinous.

I've seen plenty of fish float to the surface after darting off, technique
or no technique.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
om...

You're accusing the President of leaking the name to Novak? Where's your
proof he was involved?

If you're talking about Harry's comparison to blow jobs, it's not tit for
tat doc. He's comparing misgiving for misgiving and the likely reaction,
not the players. No one could react as harshly as Henry Hyde and the
Republican lynch mob did when Billy was caught lying about bjs.

You and your amalgam of beer swillers, n'er do wells and stinking rich
people will downplay the administration's attempt to embarrass and
compromise Joseph Wilson and his wife even though the crime is far more
egregious.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

It is not fishing, it is called slaughtering our natural resources. I hope
he does not own a fossil fuel internal combustion engine.

Listening to him preach to you, is as funny as watching Harry preach against
hunting, as he munches on a steak.


"NOYB" wrote in message
om...
You mean...er...ummm....you fish?


"jps" wrote in message
...
"NOYB" wrote in message
om...

Five people went fishing the other day. We caught upwards of 100
fish...and
all but one swam off in good health when released. We also kept 3
grouper,
3 mackeral, a couple of dozen grunts, and a couple of dozen snapper
for
dinner. I had enough for lunch and dinner that day...and another
couple
of
pounds went into the freezer. Nothing glutinous.

I've seen plenty of fish float to the surface after darting off,
technique
or no technique.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

Let's actually get some facts straight. If she is an analyst and not a
covert agent, no law was broken. The reporter who posted her name, said
it
was not the White House, but her husband who stated the fact.


I think *you* need to straighten your facts out...


Point 1

There is nothing to the argument that, since she was an analyst, she was
not
covert. In fact, she was.

The statute includes three other elements necessary to obtain a
conviction:
that the disclosure was intentional, the accused knew the person being
identified was a covert agent and the accused also knew that "the United
States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's
intelligence relationship to the United States."
The law says no person other than the one accused of leaking the
information
can be prosecuted, a provision that would protect journalists who report
leaked classified information identifying a covert agent. But there is one
exception to that protection.

The measure says people who engage in a "pattern of activities" intended
to
identify covert agents and who have "reason to believe that such
activities
would impair or impede the foreign intelligence activities of the United
States" can be prosecuted.



Point 2

On CNN's "Crossfire" on Monday, Novak said he learned Plame's identity
from
two senior Bush administration officials in the course of researching an
article about Wilson.


Point 3

Check your sources and hang up the bluff routine.


Check your sources. Kovak originally stated it was not the White House as
his source.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:c0qeb.1301$%h1.1671@sccrnsc02...
It is not fishing, it is called slaughtering our natural resources. I
hope
he does not own a fossil fuel internal combustion engine.

Yup, twin 454s. Audi A6 2.7 litre twin turbo. Jeep Grand Cherokee for the
wife and kids. Chev c-20 for gardening. Merc 25 on the dink. Tecumseh 2.5
horse on the edger, 25cc on the trimmer, electric lawnmower.

I use them all gently and keep them properly tuned.

Listening to him preach to you, is as funny as watching Harry preach
against
hunting, as he munches on a steak.

I imagine that most of the "steaks" you all munch on are made of cow, eh?
When's the last time you hunted a cow Bill? Did you have trouble following
his trail and stocking him? Did you find him in his pen ****ing on himself
or was he already dressed and ready to go?

I eat mammals a couple of times a year. I eat wild fish and range free
chicken.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Oh no, he's from the "Seattle area."

Seattleites tend to be liberal...I'm guessing if he's your brother
doesn't
live in the city...

Liberals? Here in Seattle? Who'd a thunkit? What do you suppose they look
like?
:-)

Very suave with Birkenstoks.

Seriously, though, it's always fun to take friends and family from out of
town
for a boat ride. Every place in the country has its own unique
beauty....(but
it can be more difficult to find that beauty in some of them).

When folks come from out of town (especially customers) I love to take them
on the boat. Even a spin around the lake floors them. The last such cruise
was on one of those mid 70s days, clear blue with Mount Rainier blazing on
the horizon. Man, it puts a **** eatin' grin on my face.

We're very, very lucky to live in such a beautiful area.

Too bad it rains so damn much, right?

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

jps,
I don't hunt anything, nor do I fish. Anyone of average intelligence would
have noticed I was highlighting the hypocrisy of those who preach one thing
and live their life another way.


"jps" wrote in message
...
"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:c0qeb.1301$%h1.1671@sccrnsc02...
It is not fishing, it is called slaughtering our natural resources. I
hope
he does not own a fossil fuel internal combustion engine.

Yup, twin 454s. Audi A6 2.7 litre twin turbo. Jeep Grand Cherokee for
the
wife and kids. Chev c-20 for gardening. Merc 25 on the dink. Tecumseh
2.5
horse on the edger, 25cc on the trimmer, electric lawnmower.

I use them all gently and keep them properly tuned.

Listening to him preach to you, is as funny as watching Harry preach
against
hunting, as he munches on a steak.

I imagine that most of the "steaks" you all munch on are made of cow, eh?
When's the last time you hunted a cow Bill? Did you have trouble
following
his trail and stocking him? Did you find him in his pen ****ing on
himself
or was he already dressed and ready to go?

I eat mammals a couple of times a year. I eat wild fish and range free
chicken.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

I don't catch and release and I always tread as lightly as possible.

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:EXxeb.646345$Ho3.134258@sccrnsc03...
jps,
I don't hunt anything, nor do I fish. Anyone of average intelligence
would
have noticed I was highlighting the hypocrisy of those who preach one
thing
and live their life another way.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

If you were treading as light as possible, you would own a sailboat and ride
a bike.


"jps" wrote in message
...
I don't catch and release and I always tread as lightly as possible.

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:EXxeb.646345$Ho3.134258@sccrnsc03...
jps,
I don't hunt anything, nor do I fish. Anyone of average intelligence
would
have noticed I was highlighting the hypocrisy of those who preach one
thing
and live their life another way.

Today's boating adventures were brief but...
 

True enough. I can't stand sailing, so I wouldn't own a boat. I do ride a
bike but not often enough.

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:dhDeb.475100$Oz4.303588@rwcrnsc54...
If you were treading as light as possible, you would own a sailboat and
ride
a bike.


"jps" wrote in message
...
I don't catch and release and I always tread as lightly as possible.

"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:EXxeb.646345$Ho3.134258@sccrnsc03...
jps,
I don't hunt anything, nor do I fish. Anyone of average intelligence
would
have noticed I was highlighting the hypocrisy of those who preach one
thing
and live their life another way.