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GAULEY FEST 2003
GAULEY FEST 2003
GET READY! GET SET! IT'S THE 2003 AW GAULEY FESTIVAL Saturday, September 20 Summersville, West Virginia THE GAULEY FESTIVAL IS…. - A CRITICAL FUNDRAISER FOR AMERICAN WHITEWATER - ESSENTIAL TO THE AW MISSION - THE MOST FUN YOU CAN HAVE OFF THE WATER Join us on September 20th at the year’s biggest celebration of all things whitewater. - Loads of vendors with tons of good stuff - A mixed bag of bands – blue grass, reggae and rock - Back and better than ever – the 2003 ir BIG GUN SHOW - Gigantic Silent Auction of tempting merchandise - Jam-packed Raffle of super stuff - Award winning videos from the National Paddling Film Festival - Some of the best home cookin’ you ever scarfed And so much more…… For more info about the Gauley Fest - Click here http://www.americanwhitewater.org/ev...fo/GHome.phtml -or- to find out how you can volunteer a bit of your time to help ensure the success of this event CLICK HERE http://www.americanwhitewater.org/ev...olunteer.phtml |
GAULEY FEST 2003
"Phat Ratty Ratt" wrote in message ... "riverman" carped: "DL Luinstra" wrote in message ... GAULEY FEST 2003 (snip) This line is from the page on that site about the description of the Lower Gauley below the meadow: It'd be nice if you ID'ed the page, so that others could easily find it (and see the context of what you're grousing about). It's at http://www.americanwhitewater.org/rivers/id/2379, for those who want to read it. "If you go for the river right eddy just above the rock make sure that you make it. A couple years ago a first timer to the Lower G. flipped on the eddy line, missed a couple of rolls and got stuffed under the rock after he bailed out of his boat." An alternative description of the warning is at http://www.americanwhitewater.org/ol...GauleyCare.htm. I don't know about the incident mentioned It's easy enough to know about the incident. Just surf on over to AW's Safety Database: http://www.americanwhitewater.org/sa...hive/state/WV/. Look under "Gauley." The more complete report is at http://www.americanwhitewater.org/sa...rchive/id/619/. , but if its referring to a kayaker death, A little simple research shows that it is. that seems like a rather insensitive and cavalier way to encourage people to paddle safely, don't you think? Especially coming from AW.... Point about sensitivity well taken. You been writing any funny April Fool's jokes lately about paddler deaths? Seriously: the wording might not be perfect, butt I think you're reading a lot of insensitivity into it. For the record, I was on the river that day. So were many other RBP'ers (after all, it happened during GauleyFest weekend!); the accident was discussed at length soon thereafter. I have friends who were in the group that was paddling with the victim. Some were very badly shaken. One couldn't paddle the "hard stuff" for years thereafter. Knowing how tough it was for my friends, who took extensive measures to try to save his life, and who were very upset, I'd be very watchful for insensitive descriptions of the event. I don't think the descriptive sentence you quote is bad. It's a *warning*, for Kevin's sake. It gets the point across. Who edits this stuff? Volunteers. You want to help? The StreamKeeper Project is "staffed" by a couple hundred dedicated AW members who give their free time to get river beta out to the boating public. Nobody pays them for it. There's no glory. They just put the info out there. In this case, the Lower Gauley StreamKeeper is warning people of a potentially fatal hazard. And you want to poke holes in his rhetoric--or, rather, you want "AW," apparently a huge monolithic organization with vast resources, to bring this miscreant StreamKeeper back into the fold. There's NO WAY that anyone involved with AW could get out there and micromanage the river descriptions posted on over 4000 reaches. As the head of the StreamKeeper Project, my hands are full enough without engaging in that kind of nitpicking, believe you me. Read the Disclaimer, linked from every one of those river pages: http://www.americanwhitewater.org/faq/disclaimer.phtml. It says "Opinions expressed on these and associated pages are not necessarily those of American Whitewater, its officers, directors, or employees." Anyway...thanks for your feebdack, and thanks for supporting AW with your continued membership! Hey Ratt: nice to be talking at you again. :-) (By the way, that wasn't a funny April's Fool story about a kayaker death...it was a highly satirical piece about the MiddleEast peace process. But I'm amazed at your powers of recall, either way.) And I think my feebdack about the cavalierish wording was well taken, so thanks for your reply. Didn't realize you were da man I was rhetoricizing about. Anyhow, I'd love to help edit stuff. Get me on the list, send it my way. Not much paddling here in Congo anyhow. Enjoy the Fest. --riverman |
GAULEY FEST 2003
Riverman,
I am the streamkeeper for that river reach (the Lower Gauley). I was somewhat surprised to find your comments about it here and not as a user comment on the river reach description or in the AW forum. It was strictly an accident that I saw your post. You point about the description for Koontz's Flume is well taken. I will change it so no one else takes it the wrong way. Chuck Brabec |
GAULEY FEST 2003
"ChuckB" wrote in message om... Riverman, I am the streamkeeper for that river reach (the Lower Gauley). I was somewhat surprised to find your comments about it here and not as a user comment on the river reach description or in the AW forum. It was strictly an accident that I saw your post. You point about the description for Koontz's Flume is well taken. I will change it so no one else takes it the wrong way. Chuck Brabec Thanks for the post, Chuck. The old phrasing ("got stuffed under a rock") just sounded a bit minimizing to me, although I know we all talk that way without poor intentions. But I bet relatives and friends of the kayaker would have found it a bit callous. I think the new way you worded is much better, sends a clearer warning, and fits in perfectly with the safety-minded message of AW. I didn't know about the forum, so I didn't post anything there. But I'll explore the site more so I don't seem like some sort of backdoor grouser, and can find the main channels. :-) --riverman |
GAULEY FEST 2003
"Phat Ratty Ratt" wrote in message ... By the BTW: in a previous reply, you wrote: Anyhow, I'd love to help edit stuff. Get me on the list, send it my way. Not much paddling here in Congo anyhow. Enjoy the Fest. Nice thought, RMan...butt how in Murdoch's Private Earth would I send it your way? I'd bet truffles to ten-dollar bills that an email to would bounce quicker than a check from the US government (after the currant administration has its way with the budget, that is). Rattso you Flatulatso! I never figgured that a trivial thing like a smurphed return address would keep you from being able to find my real address. In fact, if I were a betting man (which I am), I would bet you a shiny new nickel that you could find my true email address in less than 2 minutes, if you put your haid to it. :-) But I'll follow the AW links, as you suggest. --riverman |
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