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I'm probably preaching to the choir with most of the old guys, but here are a
couple of notes to some of the new people.

Learn were your cap lock key is at and turn it off. All caps is considered rude
when posting to news groups.

Many newsgroups have a resident troll/sicko that screw things up for everyone
else. Timmy is ours. He has been very restained with his posting this time,
probably because he is running out of ISP's. Most of the traffic has been from
people trying to reason/have witty exchanges with him. Don't reply. Leave him
alone. Don't threaten (which is an actual crime) or abuse him. Just don't
respond.

If you take a unpopular topic, defend it unreasonably and rudely, and have your
title in all caps, you're trolling. period. There are still a few of us old
timers that
are pretty flameproof and most of us (hi John) have refrained from flaming some
of the more blatant trolls. If you are new to NG's, I might check up on
Netiquette before continueing to post.


SYOTR
Larry C.

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Wilko wrote in message news:th53b.20889
Larry, this post of yours definately makes more sense than most of the
others posts on this subject. I can't believe that after he's done so
much damage on RBP in the past, there are still people stupid enough to
reply (directly or indirectly) to Timmy.

Oh, BTW.. I was wondering if you could possibly list those you
consider stupid here so I can stop reading their posts?
Scotty...

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In article ,
(Backyard Renegade) writes:

Yes Wilko, we are all stupid... Why, cause you said so! And afterall,
you are one of the best paddlers here! There could be no one who is
new to the group and does not know about Timmy and his spondoms
(besides, newbies are supposed ot sit back and gaw at the news group
pro's), there also could of course be no one with any use, comment,
question, or legitimate concern about these things... just a bunch of
stupid people we are.

I don't expect anyone to set back and be in awe, but if you're going to join
the game, it's only common courtesy to take the time to read the rules.
Sponsons aren't new, neither is Timmy's ravings. All you have to do is do a
google search and it's pretty
easy to see that this clown has spammed this group a couple of times. But this
time it isn't Tim that has continued to hammer this topic, but everyone trying
to answer tims original reply even after the old timers told you what would be
the response. No one in Officialdom takes him serious after about 15 minutes,
so why bother.

I don't believe that Wilko or I have ever said a word to anyone about any
legitimate or reasonable topics, or even most unreasonable ones. I haven't even
started flaming you for your unreasonable response reading things into the post
that were not stated or implied. If you take the time to see what one wacko can
do to a newsgroup, or several newsgroups, then you might understand our
concern. I suggest a google search on Tim Ingram, Burnt Njal, and Mike
Vanderman. Then come back and I'll discuss this with you.


SYOTR
Larry C.

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Mary Malmros wrote in message

Oh, please... Don't expect me to do a full google on three or more
topics, just to come and read a newsgroup. Personally I don't give a
**** about Tim, Burnt, and Mike... or your precious bandwidth for that
matter. Fact is, if you don't want to get into the conversation, stay
the f*** out of it. Don't start another OT thread to trash those that
are genuinely interested. Afterall, how many questions that are
considered on topic today on this list have been addressed in depth
before. So all the old guard should just post links to past posts or
tell everyone that asks a question to go back and do the research. We
need to take this ng back in make it only for trip reports, and I
don't mean everyday reports, must be from exotic places and never
mention the same place twice, afterall, it is all in the archives. I
mean, if I put spondoms into google I might only have 5-600 posts to
go through to get the answer to my question, or I might not find it at
all. Really, if we go by your standard, we should all just stop
posting and search the archives. Hey, another good idea is if we all
go back to the old way before the internet and pay folks to spit out
info a spoonfull at a time. After a few hundred dollars, years of
expensive lessons, hundreds of hours of testing us newbies might be
able to learn to paddle across the pool.

You've identified it, Scotty...the ubiquitous slippery slope.
Heaven forfend that anyone, anywhere, should ask anyone to do a
little homework and/or stick to the topic: it will have such a
chilling effect on free expression that by the time the five o'clock
news rolls around, we'll all be reduced to grunting and pointing.

The death of free speech, film at 11...

There are some things where research is good. I have been doing
research for almost two years working on my own personal cruiser and I
could not design it without that research. But some things are better
covered by just simply asking folks who have done something in the
past or have specific ansewers to questions ready available... If I
want info on kevlar or carbon fiber paddles, tensil strengh,
manufacturing process, available colors, shipping costs, etc, I can to
do research... of course it will be distributors and manufacturers I
would be counting on for all of my information. I could spend a week
and still not know if it will be the paddle for me. If I only want to
know if others who use them like them, I can come to a news group,
with one simple question and get a lot of answers from folks who have
actually bought them. Sorry to invade your little camp with my
questions and sarcasm, I will again go back to building and paddling.
Scotty

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Larry Cable wrote:

(Backyard Renegade) writes:

Oh, please... Don't expect me to do a full google on three or more
topics, just to come and read a newsgroup. Personally I don't give a
**** about Tim, Burnt, and Mike... or your precious bandwidth for that
matter. Fact is, if you don't want to get into the conversation, stay
the f*** out of it. Don't start another OT thread to trash those that
are genuinely interested.

Oh, I see now. your just another asshole trolling for a little attention. If
your interested in sponsons, why don't you just buy timmy's book and quite
shooting your mouth off.....
I've tried to remain civil, but dickheads like you **** me off. Your comments
are just about as useful as tits on a boar hog. Get a ****ing life and leave
the rest of us alone.

There, NOW I'm being insulting and belittling you and your abilities. You happy
now.

What's that sound? It's coming from the north. In fact it's coming from
the North. Somewhere near Penetanguishene, Ontario, I think. Is it...?
Yes, it is, it's sponsondork, laughing his head off at the chaos he has
again managed to wreak in r.b.p. And this time, he didn't even say that
much, you guys (you too, Mary, not to mention Brian) are doing it
yourselves.

We never learn, do we? Come on, altogether now, you know the mantra:
"Don't feed the sick puppy."

--
Steve Cramer
Athens, GA

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Y'know... it's a big world out there. Y'all should learn to open up
and tell us how you really feel. There's no need to hold back.

Ed

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Ed Edelenbos writes:

Y'know... it's a big world out there. Y'all should learn to open up
and tell us how you really feel. There's no need to hold back.

What with being a repressed limey an all its quite hard to say what you
really mean without prevaricating. ;)

--
James jamesk[at]homeric[dot]co[dot]uk

"I'm a latent telepath." (Cmdr. Ivanova, B5 "Divided Loyalties")

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Kegs wrote in message ...
(Backyard Renegade) writes:

[snipped]

furrfu, you are getting nearly as bad as Allan Bennett in ukrbp!

Just so you know, last time Timmy payed a visit to rbp his trolling
and abuse practically destroyed the newsgroup as a place to discuss
anything sensibly, and it still is hasn't recovered from that, even
now. It was also an unpleasant to posty or read the group at that
time.

The only way to deal with timmy, and the ripples he leaves is, like any
other troll and attention seeker, to ignore him completely.

Wilko was fairly reasonable about what he said, and if you didn't have
such a huge ****ing chip on your shoulder about people who have been
reading the group for longer than you, you might have noticed that he
wasn't just getting at newer posters, but some of the regs here who
remember Timmy from last time around and still couldn't restrain
themselves from replying in his threads.

The OG post I was reffering to was the one from Mary to William..
Later, no time for this again...
Scotty

*plonk*

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Kegs wrote in message ...
(Backyard Renegade) writes:

[snipped]

furrfu, you are getting nearly as bad as Allan Bennett in ukrbp!

Just so you know, last time Timmy payed a visit to rbp his trolling
and abuse practically destroyed the newsgroup

The ONLY reason that happened is because you folks would not just
ignore the posts. Trust me, there are groups where his post would just
zip by un-noticed... It is your own fault for all wanting to jump up
on the podium and take a shot at him.

as a place to discuss
anything sensibly, and it still is hasn't recovered from that, even
now. It was also an unpleasant to posty or read the group at that
time.

The only way to deal with timmy, and the ripples he leaves is, like any
other troll and attention seeker, to ignore him completely.

Yes, that is the best thing to do with someone like Timmy, and
apparently for you, anyone who you do not agree with. Funny, you plonk
me when at least half of my posts are attempts at informative answers
from a builders point of view... but you don't know how to ignore
Timmy's wake... Seems like I am not the only one with a chip..


Wilko was fairly reasonable about what he said, and if you didn't have
such a huge ****ing chip on your shoulder about people who have been
reading the group for longer than you, you might have noticed that he
wasn't just getting at newer posters,

As I said, my words were in response to a comment Mary made to Will,
but I think we worked that out to satisfaction.

but some of the regs here who
remember Timmy from last time around and still couldn't restrain
themselves from replying in his threads.

Again, in your own words... "but some of the regs here who
remember Timmy from last time around and still couldn't restrain
themselves from replying in his threads". It is your desire to pig
pile once the ball gets rolling that keeps this group down, always has
been.

*plonk*

Another OG mind snaps shut... To bad.

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Kegs wrote in message

Wilko was fairly reasonable about what he said, and if you didn't have
such a huge ****ing chip on your shoulder ....

Yes, Wilko was very reasonable. On or off list, even scolding me
personally he always has been, and a gentelman too.
Scotty who grows tired of the fun.

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I have sent my apologies to Larry off list for my previous post and
will not bother you here on RBP with another one like last year. The
proof will be that this time I will not be back, not even to hear your
cheers or jeers in response to this post.
Scott Ingersoll

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In article ,
(Backyard Renegade) writes:

Fourth is really a rehash of number 1. Again with the "my group
attitude"!? **** you! It is not your newsgroup you arrogant little
prick. And of course your blatant abuse of the netiquette with the use
of curse words proves that you are not only an internet hero (keyboard
coward) but a hypocrite to boot. In another post on this thread you
suggest that you are flame proof (seems you may not have been quite
honest in your bragging, reading the post I am responding to), in
another you request folks have the "common courtesy" to read the
related posts before chiming in to avoid looking "stupid" (see second
point) and then you chime in here, uninformed. You have shown yourself
to be a troll, a liar, a hypocrite, a coward, stupid, and a crybaby
just in this one short thread, maybe it's time to go back to paddling.


All you have shown me is that you lack the intellectual capabilities to engage
in a civil debate without degrading it to name calling. Plus that you parents
evidently didn't teach you any manners.

I warned people about Tim for the same reason that I warn people not to play
with rattlesnakes. I don't make people take my advice, I just tell the the
reason why I think that its true. You evidently don't care if it true or not,
so why bother responding.

Get the chip off your shoulder. This is an international group that is supposed
to have some rules. It's an unmoderated group, although people just like you
have just about screwed that up in the past. Neither WIlko nor I have claimed
to have any ownership in the Newgroup, just that certain etiquette should be
observed. Don't like it, who cares.

Bloink


SYOTR
Larry C.

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A note to RPB users new and old