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On Tue, 24 May 2011 12:14:37 -0400, John H
wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2011 10:51:51 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2011 07:07:35 -0400, Jay wrote: Did you mean to say "threads"? Why don't you bring this thread back on topic? Good question Is your gas getting cheaper? We are seeing a little easing ($3.79 seems to be about it) . I am still stalling before I go fill up all my cans. I have enough for a few trips out around the bay so I am like one of those people on the interstate, hoping to see a sign a little cheaper at the next exit ;-) I've actually seen a few stations where diesel is close to the same price as regular. Yesterday I paid $3.82 a gallon for diesel down in Tappahanock, VA. I suppose the current administration has decided it's making enough money from fuel and can slack off a bit. I don't have to suppose that you're ignorant, racist, and a liar. |
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On Tue, 24 May 2011 07:07:35 -0400, Jay wrote: Did you mean to say "threads"? Why don't you bring this thread back on topic? Good question Is your gas getting cheaper? We are seeing a little easing ($3.79 seems to be about it) . I am still stalling before I go fill up all my cans. I have enough for a few trips out around the bay so I am like one of those people on the interstate, hoping to see a sign a little cheaper at the next exit ;-) Reply: We are seeing a little easing in prices. Paid $4.37 for diesel yesterday. Paid $4.54 a week ago, in Willits while going north to Shelter Cove Kayak derby. |
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On Tue, 24 May 2011 10:47:02 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 24 May 2011 07:52:59 -0400, Harryk wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:50:05 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 17:24:54 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 13:04:47 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:32:07 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote: In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... Canuck57 wrote: Mubarak was no dictator Bull****. The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military. The power behind every government is ultimately the military. You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s. A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne,. Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder unarmed students at Kent State. Technically the national guard is not really the military. They work for the governor, not the federal government but the general point is valid. All laws are ultimately enforced at the point of a government gun and the military has the biggest guns.. Please...there's no need to split the hair that fine. You correctly assigned the blame to the governor but it would be incorrect to extend that to the pentagon or Nixon, as much fun as that might be. The national guard works for the state unless they are nationalized. A lot of people say that is the "militia" Most of the kids at Kent State were protesting Nixon's ordering of the invasion of Cambodia, so please don't be so eager to let Nixon or the Pentagon off the hook. While Nixon didn't order in the National Guard goon squad, there wouldn't have been a protest sans Nixon's escalation of that idiotic war. I will join you in blaming Nixon and Kissinger for still being in that war but they had nothing to do with whatever moron (probably a captain or major) who decided it was a good idea to issue a bunch of weekend warriors live ammo in a situation where they probably should not have even had rifles. This was a place for shields and batons like we see these days in riots. I think part of the problem was people in charge did not understand the total breakdown in respect for authority that happened in the 60s. The National Guard, showing up in full battle gear, did not impress these kids. That misunderstanding and the presence of live ammo resulted in the most likely scenario. Students got shot I know this is going to hurt, but the same can be said of the young people protesting in the Middle East. They're not impressed with guns. The breakdown in "respect for authority" back then was because those in authority no longer deserved respect. Whoever issued live ammunition to those National Guard thugs at Kent State should have been put on trial. There were plenty of people who should have stood trial. Did anyone go to jail for burning down the buildings at the college? How about the ones who assaulted the firemen who came to put out the fires? That was what prompted the armed response in the first place. So, people who murder unarmed students are somehow equivalent to those who throw rocks without much result? |
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says... On Tue, 24 May 2011 10:47:02 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2011 07:52:59 -0400, Harryk wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:50:05 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 17:24:54 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 13:04:47 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:32:07 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote: In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... Canuck57 wrote: Mubarak was no dictator Bull****. The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military. The power behind every government is ultimately the military. You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s. A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne,. Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder unarmed students at Kent State. Technically the national guard is not really the military. They work for the governor, not the federal government but the general point is valid. All laws are ultimately enforced at the point of a government gun and the military has the biggest guns.. Please...there's no need to split the hair that fine. You correctly assigned the blame to the governor but it would be incorrect to extend that to the pentagon or Nixon, as much fun as that might be. The national guard works for the state unless they are nationalized. A lot of people say that is the "militia" Most of the kids at Kent State were protesting Nixon's ordering of the invasion of Cambodia, so please don't be so eager to let Nixon or the Pentagon off the hook. While Nixon didn't order in the National Guard goon squad, there wouldn't have been a protest sans Nixon's escalation of that idiotic war. I will join you in blaming Nixon and Kissinger for still being in that war but they had nothing to do with whatever moron (probably a captain or major) who decided it was a good idea to issue a bunch of weekend warriors live ammo in a situation where they probably should not have even had rifles. This was a place for shields and batons like we see these days in riots. I think part of the problem was people in charge did not understand the total breakdown in respect for authority that happened in the 60s. The National Guard, showing up in full battle gear, did not impress these kids. That misunderstanding and the presence of live ammo resulted in the most likely scenario. Students got shot I know this is going to hurt, but the same can be said of the young people protesting in the Middle East. They're not impressed with guns. The breakdown in "respect for authority" back then was because those in authority no longer deserved respect. Whoever issued live ammunition to those National Guard thugs at Kent State should have been put on trial. There were plenty of people who should have stood trial. Did anyone go to jail for burning down the buildings at the college? How about the ones who assaulted the firemen who came to put out the fires? That was what prompted the armed response in the first place. So, people who murder unarmed students are somehow equivalent to those who throw rocks without much result? You pick and choose. You ignored arson and battery on police officers. |
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In articleO6CdnVEpnZLuPUbQnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... BAR wrote: In , naled24511 @mypacks.net says... wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:50:05 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 17:24:54 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 13:04:47 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:32:07 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote: In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... Canuck57 wrote: Mubarak was no dictator Bull****. The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military. The power behind every government is ultimately the military. You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s. A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne,. Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder unarmed students at Kent State. Technically the national guard is not really the military. They work for the governor, not the federal government but the general point is valid. All laws are ultimately enforced at the point of a government gun and the military has the biggest guns.. Please...there's no need to split the hair that fine. You correctly assigned the blame to the governor but it would be incorrect to extend that to the pentagon or Nixon, as much fun as that might be. The national guard works for the state unless they are nationalized. A lot of people say that is the "militia" Most of the kids at Kent State were protesting Nixon's ordering of the invasion of Cambodia, so please don't be so eager to let Nixon or the Pentagon off the hook. While Nixon didn't order in the National Guard goon squad, there wouldn't have been a protest sans Nixon's escalation of that idiotic war. I will join you in blaming Nixon and Kissinger for still being in that war but they had nothing to do with whatever moron (probably a captain or major) who decided it was a good idea to issue a bunch of weekend warriors live ammo in a situation where they probably should not have even had rifles. This was a place for shields and batons like we see these days in riots. I think part of the problem was people in charge did not understand the total breakdown in respect for authority that happened in the 60s. The National Guard, showing up in full battle gear, did not impress these kids. That misunderstanding and the presence of live ammo resulted in the most likely scenario. Students got shot I know this is going to hurt, but the same can be said of the young people protesting in the Middle East. They're not impressed with guns. The breakdown in "respect for authority" back then was because those in authority no longer deserved respect. Whoever issued live ammunition to those National Guard thugs at Kent State should have been put on trial. I guess 8 years of Democrat presidents built up such distrust in authority that the youth of America was despondent. Go back to sleep, birther. This is a discussion for the adults. What what skillful debate tools you bring to the table... WAFA was never clever. |
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On May 24, 1:26*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
wrote in messagenews:s8hnt6pto27u2tg4fqhap3u77n287ohpas@4ax .com... On Tue, 24 May 2011 07:07:35 -0400, Jay wrote: Did you mean to say "threads"? Why don't you bring this thread back on topic? Good question Is your gas getting cheaper? We are seeing a little easing ($3.79 seems to be about it) . I am still stalling before I go fill up all my cans. I have enough for a few trips out around the bay so I am like one of those people on the interstate, hoping to see a sign a little cheaper at the next exit ;-) Reply: We are seeing a little easing in prices. *Paid $4.37 for diesel yesterday. Paid $4.54 a week ago, in Willits while going north to Shelter Cove Kayak derby. That'll probably turn around soon,. Oil went back up to close out at $99.00 USD per barrel today. |
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In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says... BAR wrote: In , naled24511 @mypacks.net says... wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:50:05 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 17:24:54 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 13:04:47 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:32:07 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote: In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... Canuck57 wrote: Mubarak was no dictator Bull****. The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military. The power behind every government is ultimately the military. You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s. A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne,. Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder unarmed students at Kent State. Technically the national guard is not really the military. They work for the governor, not the federal government but the general point is valid. All laws are ultimately enforced at the point of a government gun and the military has the biggest guns.. Please...there's no need to split the hair that fine. You correctly assigned the blame to the governor but it would be incorrect to extend that to the pentagon or Nixon, as much fun as that might be. The national guard works for the state unless they are nationalized. A lot of people say that is the "militia" Most of the kids at Kent State were protesting Nixon's ordering of the invasion of Cambodia, so please don't be so eager to let Nixon or the Pentagon off the hook. While Nixon didn't order in the National Guard goon squad, there wouldn't have been a protest sans Nixon's escalation of that idiotic war. I will join you in blaming Nixon and Kissinger for still being in that war but they had nothing to do with whatever moron (probably a captain or major) who decided it was a good idea to issue a bunch of weekend warriors live ammo in a situation where they probably should not have even had rifles. This was a place for shields and batons like we see these days in riots. I think part of the problem was people in charge did not understand the total breakdown in respect for authority that happened in the 60s. The National Guard, showing up in full battle gear, did not impress these kids. That misunderstanding and the presence of live ammo resulted in the most likely scenario. Students got shot I know this is going to hurt, but the same can be said of the young people protesting in the Middle East. They're not impressed with guns. The breakdown in "respect for authority" back then was because those in authority no longer deserved respect. Whoever issued live ammunition to those National Guard thugs at Kent State should have been put on trial. I guess 8 years of Democrat presidents built up such distrust in authority that the youth of America was despondent. Go back to sleep, birther. This is a discussion for the adults. That is the level of discourse we have come to expect from you Harry. |
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In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says... wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2011 07:52:59 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:50:05 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 17:24:54 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 13:04:47 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:32:07 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote: In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... Canuck57 wrote: Mubarak was no dictator Bull****. The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military. The power behind every government is ultimately the military. You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s. A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne,. Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder unarmed students at Kent State. Technically the national guard is not really the military. They work for the governor, not the federal government but the general point is valid. All laws are ultimately enforced at the point of a government gun and the military has the biggest guns.. Please...there's no need to split the hair that fine. You correctly assigned the blame to the governor but it would be incorrect to extend that to the pentagon or Nixon, as much fun as that might be. The national guard works for the state unless they are nationalized. A lot of people say that is the "militia" Most of the kids at Kent State were protesting Nixon's ordering of the invasion of Cambodia, so please don't be so eager to let Nixon or the Pentagon off the hook. While Nixon didn't order in the National Guard goon squad, there wouldn't have been a protest sans Nixon's escalation of that idiotic war. I will join you in blaming Nixon and Kissinger for still being in that war but they had nothing to do with whatever moron (probably a captain or major) who decided it was a good idea to issue a bunch of weekend warriors live ammo in a situation where they probably should not have even had rifles. This was a place for shields and batons like we see these days in riots. I think part of the problem was people in charge did not understand the total breakdown in respect for authority that happened in the 60s. The National Guard, showing up in full battle gear, did not impress these kids. That misunderstanding and the presence of live ammo resulted in the most likely scenario. Students got shot I know this is going to hurt, but the same can be said of the young people protesting in the Middle East. They're not impressed with guns. The breakdown in "respect for authority" back then was because those in authority no longer deserved respect. Whoever issued live ammunition to those National Guard thugs at Kent State should have been put on trial. There were plenty of people who should have stood trial. Did anyone go to jail for burning down the buildings at the college? How about the ones who assaulted the firemen who came to put out the fires? That was what prompted the armed response in the first place. 1. My recollection is that it was the ROTC building that was set afire, rather than "buildings." But my recollection could be wrong. No one was charged with the arson. The ROTC building is still a building. People could have died in the fire set by the arsonists. 2. The Guard was called in to quell a rowdy, mostly drunk crowd of students, biker gang members and others who began pitching beer bottles at the local police. No firemen were involved at that point. The local mayor called the governor, who agreed to send in the Guard. Blame the governor, not the president. Once again, whoever issued ammo to the Guard should have been put on trial. |
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says... On Tue, 24 May 2011 15:44:12 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2011 11:12:40 -0400, Harryk wrote: The breakdown in "respect for authority" back then was because those in authority no longer deserved respect. Whoever issued live ammunition to those National Guard thugs at Kent State should have been put on trial. There were plenty of people who should have stood trial. Did anyone go to jail for burning down the buildings at the college? How about the ones who assaulted the firemen who came to put out the fires? That was what prompted the armed response in the first place. 1. My recollection is that it was the ROTC building that was set afire, rather than "buildings." But my recollection could be wrong. No one was charged with the arson. It begs the question, why not? Any time you have arson the potential for loss of life exists and when they attacked the fire department that chance escalated. Correct, but there's a difference between potential loss of life and actual loss of life, esp. in a courtroom. Did the arsonists do a walk through of the building to ensure that there were not humans in the building before they set it a fire? |
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says... On Tue, 24 May 2011 12:14:37 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2011 10:51:51 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2011 07:07:35 -0400, Jay wrote: Did you mean to say "threads"? Why don't you bring this thread back on topic? Good question Is your gas getting cheaper? We are seeing a little easing ($3.79 seems to be about it) . I am still stalling before I go fill up all my cans. I have enough for a few trips out around the bay so I am like one of those people on the interstate, hoping to see a sign a little cheaper at the next exit ;-) I've actually seen a few stations where diesel is close to the same price as regular. Yesterday I paid $3.82 a gallon for diesel down in Tappahanock, VA. I suppose the current administration has decided it's making enough money from fuel and can slack off a bit. I don't have to suppose that you're ignorant, racist, and a liar. It is you Harry! |
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... On May 24, 1:26 pm, "Califbill" wrote: wrote in messagenews:s8hnt6pto27u2tg4fqhap3u77n287ohpas@4ax .com... On Tue, 24 May 2011 07:07:35 -0400, Jay wrote: Did you mean to say "threads"? Why don't you bring this thread back on topic? Good question Is your gas getting cheaper? We are seeing a little easing ($3.79 seems to be about it) . I am still stalling before I go fill up all my cans. I have enough for a few trips out around the bay so I am like one of those people on the interstate, hoping to see a sign a little cheaper at the next exit ;-) Reply: We are seeing a little easing in prices. Paid $4.37 for diesel yesterday. Paid $4.54 a week ago, in Willits while going north to Shelter Cove Kayak derby. That'll probably turn around soon,. Oil went back up to close out at $99.00 USD per barrel today. Reply: Plus California has special rules for all fuels, so only made in California gas and diesel is sold here. |
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On 5/25/11 6:06 PM, BAR wrote:
In articlefq2dnaoA4Kh3V0bQnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2011 07:52:59 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:50:05 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 17:24:54 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 13:04:47 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:32:07 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote: In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... Canuck57 wrote: Mubarak was no dictator Bull****. The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military. The power behind every government is ultimately the military. You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s. A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne,. Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder unarmed students at Kent State. Technically the national guard is not really the military. They work for the governor, not the federal government but the general point is valid. All laws are ultimately enforced at the point of a government gun and the military has the biggest guns.. Please...there's no need to split the hair that fine. You correctly assigned the blame to the governor but it would be incorrect to extend that to the pentagon or Nixon, as much fun as that might be. The national guard works for the state unless they are nationalized. A lot of people say that is the "militia" Most of the kids at Kent State were protesting Nixon's ordering of the invasion of Cambodia, so please don't be so eager to let Nixon or the Pentagon off the hook. While Nixon didn't order in the National Guard goon squad, there wouldn't have been a protest sans Nixon's escalation of that idiotic war. I will join you in blaming Nixon and Kissinger for still being in that war but they had nothing to do with whatever moron (probably a captain or major) who decided it was a good idea to issue a bunch of weekend warriors live ammo in a situation where they probably should not have even had rifles. This was a place for shields and batons like we see these days in riots. I think part of the problem was people in charge did not understand the total breakdown in respect for authority that happened in the 60s. The National Guard, showing up in full battle gear, did not impress these kids. That misunderstanding and the presence of live ammo resulted in the most likely scenario. Students got shot I know this is going to hurt, but the same can be said of the young people protesting in the Middle East. They're not impressed with guns. The breakdown in "respect for authority" back then was because those in authority no longer deserved respect. Whoever issued live ammunition to those National Guard thugs at Kent State should have been put on trial. There were plenty of people who should have stood trial. Did anyone go to jail for burning down the buildings at the college? How about the ones who assaulted the firemen who came to put out the fires? That was what prompted the armed response in the first place. 1. My recollection is that it was the ROTC building that was set afire, rather than "buildings." But my recollection could be wrong. No one was charged with the arson. The ROTC building is still a building. People could have died in the fire set by the arsonists. My comment was directed at correcting the misstatement in buildings. It wasn't buildings. It was one symbolic building. |
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On Wed, 25 May 2011 18:06:24 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Tue, 24 May 2011 12:14:37 -0400, John H wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2011 10:51:51 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2011 07:07:35 -0400, Jay wrote: Did you mean to say "threads"? Why don't you bring this thread back on topic? Good question Is your gas getting cheaper? We are seeing a little easing ($3.79 seems to be about it) . I am still stalling before I go fill up all my cans. I have enough for a few trips out around the bay so I am like one of those people on the interstate, hoping to see a sign a little cheaper at the next exit ;-) I've actually seen a few stations where diesel is close to the same price as regular. Yesterday I paid $3.82 a gallon for diesel down in Tappahanock, VA. I suppose the current administration has decided it's making enough money from fuel and can slack off a bit. I don't have to suppose that you're ignorant, racist, and a liar. It is you Harry! ?? So, being a birther means that you also think I'm Harry... ok, I get it. |
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On Wed, 25 May 2011 18:06:20 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , naled24511 says... BAR wrote: In , naled24511 @mypacks.net says... wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:50:05 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 17:24:54 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 13:04:47 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:32:07 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote: In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... Canuck57 wrote: Mubarak was no dictator Bull****. The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military. The power behind every government is ultimately the military. You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s. A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne,. Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder unarmed students at Kent State. Technically the national guard is not really the military. They work for the governor, not the federal government but the general point is valid. All laws are ultimately enforced at the point of a government gun and the military has the biggest guns.. Please...there's no need to split the hair that fine. You correctly assigned the blame to the governor but it would be incorrect to extend that to the pentagon or Nixon, as much fun as that might be. The national guard works for the state unless they are nationalized. A lot of people say that is the "militia" Most of the kids at Kent State were protesting Nixon's ordering of the invasion of Cambodia, so please don't be so eager to let Nixon or the Pentagon off the hook. While Nixon didn't order in the National Guard goon squad, there wouldn't have been a protest sans Nixon's escalation of that idiotic war. I will join you in blaming Nixon and Kissinger for still being in that war but they had nothing to do with whatever moron (probably a captain or major) who decided it was a good idea to issue a bunch of weekend warriors live ammo in a situation where they probably should not have even had rifles. This was a place for shields and batons like we see these days in riots. I think part of the problem was people in charge did not understand the total breakdown in respect for authority that happened in the 60s. The National Guard, showing up in full battle gear, did not impress these kids. That misunderstanding and the presence of live ammo resulted in the most likely scenario. Students got shot I know this is going to hurt, but the same can be said of the young people protesting in the Middle East. They're not impressed with guns. The breakdown in "respect for authority" back then was because those in authority no longer deserved respect. Whoever issued live ammunition to those National Guard thugs at Kent State should have been put on trial. I guess 8 years of Democrat presidents built up such distrust in authority that the youth of America was despondent. Go back to sleep, birther. This is a discussion for the adults. That is the level of discourse we have come to expect from you Harry. And, you're such a great example of good discourse? Glass house - no stones. |
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On Wed, 25 May 2011 18:06:23 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Tue, 24 May 2011 15:44:12 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2011 11:12:40 -0400, Harryk wrote: The breakdown in "respect for authority" back then was because those in authority no longer deserved respect. Whoever issued live ammunition to those National Guard thugs at Kent State should have been put on trial. There were plenty of people who should have stood trial. Did anyone go to jail for burning down the buildings at the college? How about the ones who assaulted the firemen who came to put out the fires? That was what prompted the armed response in the first place. 1. My recollection is that it was the ROTC building that was set afire, rather than "buildings." But my recollection could be wrong. No one was charged with the arson. It begs the question, why not? Any time you have arson the potential for loss of life exists and when they attacked the fire department that chance escalated. Correct, but there's a difference between potential loss of life and actual loss of life, esp. in a courtroom. Did the arsonists do a walk through of the building to ensure that there were not humans in the building before they set it a fire? Which doesn't relate to the comment I made. Try again. |
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On 5/25/11 6:53 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 May 2011 18:06:24 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 24 May 2011 12:14:37 -0400, John wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2011 10:51:51 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2011 07:07:35 -0400, wrote: Did you mean to say "threads"? Why don't you bring this thread back on topic? Good question Is your gas getting cheaper? We are seeing a little easing ($3.79 seems to be about it) . I am still stalling before I go fill up all my cans. I have enough for a few trips out around the bay so I am like one of those people on the interstate, hoping to see a sign a little cheaper at the next exit ;-) I've actually seen a few stations where diesel is close to the same price as regular. Yesterday I paid $3.82 a gallon for diesel down in Tappahanock, VA. I suppose the current administration has decided it's making enough money from fuel and can slack off a bit. I don't have to suppose that you're ignorant, racist, and a liar. It is you Harry! ?? So, being a birther means that you also think I'm Harry... ok, I get it. Thinking was daunting to Bertie-Birther, so he went into the marines instead of to college. |
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On Wed, 25 May 2011 18:06:22 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , naled24511 says... wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2011 07:52:59 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:50:05 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 17:24:54 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 13:04:47 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:32:07 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote: In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... Canuck57 wrote: Mubarak was no dictator Bull****. The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military. The power behind every government is ultimately the military. You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s. A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne,. Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder unarmed students at Kent State. Technically the national guard is not really the military. They work for the governor, not the federal government but the general point is valid. All laws are ultimately enforced at the point of a government gun and the military has the biggest guns.. Please...there's no need to split the hair that fine. You correctly assigned the blame to the governor but it would be incorrect to extend that to the pentagon or Nixon, as much fun as that might be. The national guard works for the state unless they are nationalized. A lot of people say that is the "militia" Most of the kids at Kent State were protesting Nixon's ordering of the invasion of Cambodia, so please don't be so eager to let Nixon or the Pentagon off the hook. While Nixon didn't order in the National Guard goon squad, there wouldn't have been a protest sans Nixon's escalation of that idiotic war. I will join you in blaming Nixon and Kissinger for still being in that war but they had nothing to do with whatever moron (probably a captain or major) who decided it was a good idea to issue a bunch of weekend warriors live ammo in a situation where they probably should not have even had rifles. This was a place for shields and batons like we see these days in riots. I think part of the problem was people in charge did not understand the total breakdown in respect for authority that happened in the 60s. The National Guard, showing up in full battle gear, did not impress these kids. That misunderstanding and the presence of live ammo resulted in the most likely scenario. Students got shot I know this is going to hurt, but the same can be said of the young people protesting in the Middle East. They're not impressed with guns. The breakdown in "respect for authority" back then was because those in authority no longer deserved respect. Whoever issued live ammunition to those National Guard thugs at Kent State should have been put on trial. There were plenty of people who should have stood trial. Did anyone go to jail for burning down the buildings at the college? How about the ones who assaulted the firemen who came to put out the fires? That was what prompted the armed response in the first place. 1. My recollection is that it was the ROTC building that was set afire, rather than "buildings." But my recollection could be wrong. No one was charged with the arson. The ROTC building is still a building. People could have died in the fire set by the arsonists. Yes, people could have died. Since nobody did, the criminal penalties would be less. 2. The Guard was called in to quell a rowdy, mostly drunk crowd of students, biker gang members and others who began pitching beer bottles at the local police. No firemen were involved at that point. The local mayor called the governor, who agreed to send in the Guard. Blame the governor, not the president. As the buck, in this particular case, stops with the governor, I agree. The climate that got this rolling is quite another matter, however. Once again, whoever issued ammo to the Guard should have been put on trial. |
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On 5/25/2011 6:56 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 May 2011 18:06:20 -0400, wrote: In articleO6CdnVEpnZLuPUbQnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... BAR wrote: In , naled24511 @mypacks.net says... wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 20:50:05 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 17:24:54 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 13:04:47 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:32:07 -0400, wrote: wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 07:56:42 -0400, wrote: In articleCIGdnQVNtt0Kp0TQnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@earthlink .com, naled24511 @mypacks.net says... Canuck57 wrote: Mubarak was no dictator Bull****. The power behind the throne in Egypt was and is the military. The power behind every government is ultimately the military. You just have to look at our last big "state vs feds" situation, the civil rights decisions of the 50s and 60s. A good example is when Orval Faubus challenged the law, Eisenhower sent in the 101st Airborne,. Or when the governor of Ohio sent in the National Guard to murder unarmed students at Kent State. Technically the national guard is not really the military. They work for the governor, not the federal government but the general point is valid. All laws are ultimately enforced at the point of a government gun and the military has the biggest guns.. Please...there's no need to split the hair that fine. You correctly assigned the blame to the governor but it would be incorrect to extend that to the pentagon or Nixon, as much fun as that might be. The national guard works for the state unless they are nationalized. A lot of people say that is the "militia" Most of the kids at Kent State were protesting Nixon's ordering of the invasion of Cambodia, so please don't be so eager to let Nixon or the Pentagon off the hook. While Nixon didn't order in the National Guard goon squad, there wouldn't have been a protest sans Nixon's escalation of that idiotic war. I will join you in blaming Nixon and Kissinger for still being in that war but they had nothing to do with whatever moron (probably a captain or major) who decided it was a good idea to issue a bunch of weekend warriors live ammo in a situation where they probably should not have even had rifles. This was a place for shields and batons like we see these days in riots. I think part of the problem was people in charge did not understand the total breakdown in respect for authority that happened in the 60s. The National Guard, showing up in full battle gear, did not impress these kids. That misunderstanding and the presence of live ammo resulted in the most likely scenario. Students got shot I know this is going to hurt, but the same can be said of the young people protesting in the Middle East. They're not impressed with guns. The breakdown in "respect for authority" back then was because those in authority no longer deserved respect. Whoever issued live ammunition to those National Guard thugs at Kent State should have been put on trial. I guess 8 years of Democrat presidents built up such distrust in authority that the youth of America was despondent. Go back to sleep, birther. This is a discussion for the adults. That is the level of discourse we have come to expect from you Harry. And, you're such a great example of good discourse? Glass house - no stones. Weirdo! |
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On 5/26/11 7:54 AM, BAR wrote:
In , says... On Wed, 25 May 2011 18:06:22 -0400, wrote: Blame the governor, not the president. As the buck, in this particular case, stops with the governor, I agree. The climate that got this rolling is quite another matter, however. That's a great defense. I saw someone on TV say something I didn't like so I went and burned down the the college's buildings. Use that defense and see how far it gets you. I know history is not your forte, but the morons in the Ohio National Guard were called in before the arson took place. No one was arrested or prosecuted in connection with that fire. Considering how out of control Governor Rhodes was about the demonstrations, it is entirely possible that the fire was set by his minions in order to exacerbate the situation. The Republicans of that era and since were known for their dirty tricks. Be that as it may, the protest came about as a result of President Nixon's decision to spread that idiotic war into Cambodia. The loss of a ROTC building in a fire in which no one was injured seems a minor point in the face of a war conducted by the United States against Asian peoples, a million of whom were killed. BTW, before the students were murdered by the crazed Guardsmen, a number were seriously injured by bayonet wounds inflicted by the boys in uniform. Student actions against ROTC were nothing new. There were incidents even in Kansas during the early 1960s in which ROTC buildings were either smeared with animal blood as a protest against the U.S. war being perpetrated for no good reason against Asian peoples. As a result of the Kent State murders, there were some calls for the dissolution of the national guard in many states but that never happened. A number of universities, however, dropped their ROTC programs. I always got a kick out of the guys in the dorm who were in ROTC. They sure knew how to shine their shoes, buttons and buckles. |
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On Thu, 26 May 2011 07:54:16 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Wed, 25 May 2011 18:06:22 -0400, BAR wrote: Blame the governor, not the president. As the buck, in this particular case, stops with the governor, I agree. The climate that got this rolling is quite another matter, however. That's a great defense. I saw someone on TV say something I didn't like so I went and burned down the the college's buildings. Use that defense and see how far it gets you. Huh? Why did you chop out the context? I know... it makes you feel more like a man. The ROTC building is still a building. People could have died in the fire set by the arsonists. Yes, people could have died. Since nobody did, the criminal penalties would be less. |
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On Thu, 26 May 2011 07:54:16 -0400, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Wed, 25 May 2011 18:06:22 -0400, BAR wrote: Blame the governor, not the president. As the buck, in this particular case, stops with the governor, I agree. The climate that got this rolling is quite another matter, however. That's a great defense. I saw someone on TV say something I didn't like so I went and burned down the the college's buildings. Use that defense and see how far it gets you. It's a shame June's not here yet. Harry is saying some *really* stupid stuff in this thread. He really needs some help. |
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On Thu, 26 May 2011 17:00:00 -0400, John H
wrote: On Thu, 26 May 2011 07:54:16 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 25 May 2011 18:06:22 -0400, BAR wrote: Blame the governor, not the president. As the buck, in this particular case, stops with the governor, I agree. The climate that got this rolling is quite another matter, however. That's a great defense. I saw someone on TV say something I didn't like so I went and burned down the the college's buildings. Use that defense and see how far it gets you. It's a shame June's not here yet. Harry is saying some *really* stupid stuff in this thread. He really needs some help. It's a shame that you have less than half a brain. |
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On 5/26/11 5:22 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 26 May 2011 17:00:00 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 26 May 2011 07:54:16 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 25 May 2011 18:06:22 -0400, wrote: Blame the governor, not the president. As the buck, in this particular case, stops with the governor, I agree. The climate that got this rolling is quite another matter, however. That's a great defense. I saw someone on TV say something I didn't like so I went and burned down the the college's buildings. Use that defense and see how far it gets you. It's a shame June's not here yet. Harry is saying some *really* stupid stuff in this thread. He really needs some help. It's a shame that you have less than half a brain. It's funny that he thinks I give a damn whether he responds...or not. |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... On 5/26/11 5:22 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 May 2011 17:00:00 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 26 May 2011 07:54:16 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 25 May 2011 18:06:22 -0400, wrote: Blame the governor, not the president. As the buck, in this particular case, stops with the governor, I agree. The climate that got this rolling is quite another matter, however. That's a great defense. I saw someone on TV say something I didn't like so I went and burned down the the college's buildings. Use that defense and see how far it gets you. It's a shame June's not here yet. Harry is saying some *really* stupid stuff in this thread. He really needs some help. It's a shame that you have less than half a brain. It's funny that he thinks I give a damn whether he responds...or not. Hey, Harry, what happened to that new group of yours, why aren't you over there? |
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Harryk wrote:
On 5/26/11 5:22 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 May 2011 17:00:00 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 26 May 2011 07:54:16 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 25 May 2011 18:06:22 -0400, wrote: Blame the governor, not the president. As the buck, in this particular case, stops with the governor, I agree. The climate that got this rolling is quite another matter, however. That's a great defense. I saw someone on TV say something I didn't like so I went and burned down the the college's buildings. Use that defense and see how far it gets you. It's a shame June's not here yet. Harry is saying some *really* stupid stuff in this thread. He really needs some help. It's a shame that you have less than half a brain. It's funny that he thinks I give a damn whether he responds...or not. Keep that up and you'll be on the wrong side of a .38. |
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In article ,
says... Harryk wrote: On 5/26/11 5:22 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 May 2011 17:00:00 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 26 May 2011 07:54:16 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 25 May 2011 18:06:22 -0400, wrote: Blame the governor, not the president. As the buck, in this particular case, stops with the governor, I agree. The climate that got this rolling is quite another matter, however. That's a great defense. I saw someone on TV say something I didn't like so I went and burned down the the college's buildings. Use that defense and see how far it gets you. It's a shame June's not here yet. Harry is saying some *really* stupid stuff in this thread. He really needs some help. It's a shame that you have less than half a brain. It's funny that he thinks I give a damn whether he responds...or not. Keep that up and you'll be on the wrong side of a .38. Oh, oh... Harry is gonna' call the cops on you... Well, at least if he's as scared as he is of me;) snerk... -- Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life! |
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On 5/27/11 9:57 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articleQ7GdnYVOtojq0n3QnZ2dnUVZ_gGdnZ2d@giganews. com, says... Harryk wrote: On 5/26/11 5:22 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 May 2011 17:00:00 -0400, John wrote: On Thu, 26 May 2011 07:54:16 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 25 May 2011 18:06:22 -0400, wrote: Blame the governor, not the president. As the buck, in this particular case, stops with the governor, I agree. The climate that got this rolling is quite another matter, however. That's a great defense. I saw someone on TV say something I didn't like so I went and burned down the the college's buildings. Use that defense and see how far it gets you. It's a shame June's not here yet. Harry is saying some *really* stupid stuff in this thread. He really needs some help. It's a shame that you have less than half a brain. It's funny that he thinks I give a damn whether he responds...or not. Keep that up and you'll be on the wrong side of a .38. Oh, oh... Harry is gonna' call the cops on you... Well, at least if he's as scared as he is of me;)snerk... And Scotty's delusions continue to grow. |
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On 5/27/11 10:10 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 5/27/11 9:57 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: It's funny that he thinks I give a damn whether he responds...or not. Keep that up and you'll be on the wrong side of a .38. Oh, oh... Harry is gonna' call the cops on you... Well, at least if he's as scared as he is of me;)snerk... And Scotty's delusions continue to grow. Actually you did state you were scared of Scotty. Scared enough to contract his local police and file a complaint. Are you now saying you really weren't scared of him and you only filed a complaint to harass Scotty. |
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On 5/28/11 6:21 AM, NOYB wrote:
On 5/27/11 10:10 PM, Harryk wrote: On 5/27/11 9:57 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: It's funny that he thinks I give a damn whether he responds...or not. Keep that up and you'll be on the wrong side of a .38. Oh, oh... Harry is gonna' call the cops on you... Well, at least if he's as scared as he is of me;)snerk... And Scotty's delusions continue to grow. Actually you did state you were scared of Scotty. Scared enough to contract his local police and file a complaint. Are you now saying you really weren't scared of him and you only filed a complaint to harass Scotty. Make that Contact. I would hate to have Donnie the spell checker catch this typo. |
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