So what to do with all this fleabagger debt?
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I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:55:44 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

So what to do with all this fleabagger debt?

1. increase capital gains to 30% to start recovering the damage the
rich caused

2. cut defense to a level not controlled by the pentagon, and is
determined by an independent commission, based on US defense needs,
along with participation by our allies

3. cut subsidies for the rich such as agricultural subsiidies, oil
company subsidies, etc

4. limit mortgage deductions to those 500K and below

5 go to a single payer health care system like the europeans have
which is more efficient than our free market system

6. LOOK at bumping up taxes on teh middle class to go from 25% to 28%
as they were under clinton

7 regulate wall street to stop the horse**** games they're playing

On 16/04/2011 12:59 PM, bob wrote:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:55:44 -0600,
wrote:

So what to do with all this fleabagger debt?

1. increase capital gains to 30% to start recovering the damage the
rich caused

Won't happen. Part of why people will not invest in USA. Tax on
capital gains is ultimately a tax on inflation/wealth. Just go
somewhere else like China, Brazil or India. No need for good money to
depreciate in the USA or greedy chimps.

2. cut defense to a level not controlled by the pentagon, and is
determined by an independent commission, based on US defense needs,
along with participation by our allies

Agreed. But Liberal nosy fleabagger types like sticking their noses in
other peoples business. That is why the US war machine is so big,
expensive and in everyone's elses business.

but agree, need to get the nosy ass wipes out of the we rule the world
mentality and just worry about USA sovereignty, which would be about 25%
of what you spend now. So a 75% reduction in spending on military I
agree with. If the Saudi's want a army to protect them from Islamic nut
cases, tell them to ramp up their taxes to 30% for all and buy one.

3. cut subsidies for the rich such as agricultural subsiidies, oil
company subsidies, etc

I agree, and toss out bailouts too. No subsidies, no corporate welfare,
no taxing regular people for GM issues, couldn't agree more.

Because really, this is state corruption.

4. limit mortgage deductions to those 500K and below

I would even phase them out as people get older. The idea being is by
40, 50 at the latest you should have your digs paid in full and saving
for retirement. If people had no debt, there would have never been a
housing crisis. Being leveraged to 90%+++ was stupid be you government,
bank or person.

5 go to a single payer health care system like the europeans have
which is more efficient than our free market system

I posted a plan that addresses how Obama wants to screw you and how it
can be global without the tax screwing.

I agree with this but NO BLANK CHECKS for government tax greed.
Otherwise you are better off without the governments plan.

6. LOOK at bumping up taxes on teh middle class to go from 25% to 28%
as they were under clinton

Going to happen. $14.5 trillion of debt to service....and growing.

7 regulate wall street to stop the horse**** games they're playing

I would agree if you said corrupt banking practices. In the pure sense,
wall street is just a trading market.

Who you want to lynch are the Harvard Obama bank buddies that forge
mortgages to shift the delinquent debt. The fraudsters. Has Obama
arrested any of them? Nope, can't arrest an insider buddy. Might have
to send a fellow Harvard or Yale boy to jail.

And what do you do with central banking fraud like the US Federal
Reserve? Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae fraud? Huge trillion dollar fraud
in these two government owned fraud banks. Add in they took GMAC, the
bad credit, no ob, bankrupt, no problem we give you a loan....as long as
you buy Government Motors. Obama even bought GM AmeriCredit so GM could
do it again.

The system is so loaded with corruption that if you got a miserable 50%
conviction rate that you would have to build a jail for 100,000 corrupt
bankers and mortgage fraudsters.

But Obama hasn't even arrested the first one. A fraud puppet boy. Keep
the scam going with a mouth and a smile.

Hey, why do you think Obama cares about Libya and not Yemen, not
Bahrain, not Nigeria, not Ivory Coast, not Syria, not others where
governments are snippering protesters?

Libya operates a central bank....the others do not.

Obama is a pocket boy in the new world order of central reserve banking
corruption.

Obama, destroying America from the inside.
--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 14:25:03 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 16/04/2011 12:59 PM, bob wrote:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:55:44 -0600,
wrote:

So what to do with all this fleabagger debt?

1. increase capital gains to 30% to start recovering the damage the
rich caused

Won't happen.

yeah i know. the right wing stockholm syndrome runs deep here in the
US. people think that, if you steal a billion, god is protecting and
watching over you

Part of why people will not invest in USA. Tax on
capital gains is ultimately a tax on inflation/wealth.

right now it's a tax on theft. but you seem to think stealing money is
OK as long as it's done by the rich. wall street plunders teh US
economy...your solution is to cut unemployment benefits

no sense in that at all...but it's typical of right wing thinking


2. cut defense to a level not controlled by the pentagon, and is
determined by an independent commission, based on US defense needs,
along with participation by our allies

Agreed. But Liberal nosy fleabagger types like sticking their noses in
other peoples business.

HAHAHAHAH right now the right wing is in a tizzy because obama wont
send US ground troops to libya

That is why the US war machine is so big,
expensive and in everyone's elses business.

yeah bush spent a trillion in iraq. but you IGNORE that. you BITCH
about OBAMA being liberal when he DOESNT send troops

but you IGNORE what BUSH did in spending a TRILLION in iraq

THAT is proof you're a KLUXER


6. LOOK at bumping up taxes on teh middle class to go from 25% to 28%
as they were under clinton

Going to happen. $14.5 trillion of debt to service....and growing.

but the right wants to CUT taxes on the RICH by 30%

any reason the RICH shouldnt pay for the ****ing they gave america?


7 regulate wall street to stop the horse**** games they're playing

I would agree if you said corrupt banking practices. In the pure sense,
wall street is just a trading market.

Who you want to lynch are the Harvard Obama bank buddies that forge
mortgages to shift the delinquent debt.

HAHAHAH the depression started in 2007. obama was president in 2008.

but to the racist right, obama is responsible because you just CANT
blame a rich white guy!!


The fraudsters. Has Obama
arrested any of them? Nope, can't arrest an insider buddy. Might have
to send a fellow Harvard or Yale boy to jail.

gee. THAT is true. and bush did NOTHING. neither is obama. why?

because america's laws protect the wealthy. the GOP and the right wing
have made it LEGAL to bankrupt the USA because the RICH get richer.


And what do you do with central banking fraud like the US Federal
Reserve? Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae fraud? Huge trillion dollar fraud
in these two government owned fraud banks. Add in they took GMAC, the
bad credit, no ob, bankrupt, no problem we give you a loan....as long as
you buy Government Motors. Obama even bought GM AmeriCredit so GM could
do it again.

gee. the GM bailout program was started by

BUSH. but he's white...

so you see this pattern over and over...

bush ****s up the economy. the right blames obama

bush kills 4400 US troops in iraq. the right blames obama

bush spends a trillion in iraq. the right blames obama

bush starts the bailout program. the right blames obama

notice a pattern??

gee. wonder why that is? and the right will SHRIEK that obama IS to
blame even though there is NO WAY he did ANY of the ****ups bush did

but he's black...


The system is so loaded with corruption that if you got a miserable 50%
conviction rate that you would have to build a jail for 100,000 corrupt
bankers and mortgage fraudsters.

hey the right wants it this way. corrupt? you bet. and the right wing
says we need LESS regulation

read that again, can****. the right wants LESS regulation so wall
street can CONTINUE to **** america

and you blame LIBERALS!!



But Obama hasn't even arrested the first one. A fraud puppet boy. Keep
the scam going with a mouth and a smile.

Hey, why do you think Obama cares about Libya and not Yemen, not
Bahrain, not Nigeria, not Ivory Coast, not Syria, not others where
governments are snippering protesters?

Libya operates a central bank....the others do not

now let's see...

ABOVE you said liberals stick their noses in everywhere

even though it was BUSH that spent a TRILLION In iraq

and obama WISELY stayed OUT of libya. but you STILL blame obama

for what? well...for being PWB. president while black.


Obama is a pocket boy in the new world order of central reserve banking
corruption.

yeah. and bush was a model of independent thinking.

he ****ed us and people like YOU keep telling us the rich need to own
MORE of the banking system or it's just not FAIR

then you bitch about corruption.

Obama, destroying America from the inside.

kluxer

On 16/04/2011 3:42 PM, bob wrote:

1. increase capital gains to 30% to start recovering the damage the
rich caused

Won't happen.

yeah i know. the right wing stockholm syndrome runs deep here in the
US. people think that, if you steal a billion, god is protecting and
watching over you

Know it. It isn't 1940 any more. In 5 minutes I can have money moved
right out of the US and USDs. That is even faster than Obama can find a
soap box.

There is a reason why you are destined for being poor....

--
I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with
fleabagger debt.

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 16:06:41 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 16/04/2011 3:42 PM, bob wrote:

1. increase capital gains to 30% to start recovering the damage the
rich caused

Won't happen.

yeah i know. the right wing stockholm syndrome runs deep here in the
US. people think that, if you steal a billion, god is protecting and
watching over you

Know it. It isn't 1940 any more. In 5 minutes I can have money moved
right out of the US and USDs. That is even faster than Obama can find a
soap box.

There is a reason why you are destined for being poor....

yeah. i'm middle class. and the right hates the middle class. you seem
to think there's something wrong with being middle class

another reason why the right will destroy america. to the right, being
middle class is a shameful failure

bob wrote:

7 regulate wall street to stop the horse**** games they're playing

How do you propose that, Bob?

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:38:19 -0400, L G
wrote:

bob wrote:

7 regulate wall street to stop the horse**** games they're playing

How do you propose that, Bob?

require investment houses to use non federally insured funds for
proprietary trading

reform the ratings houses

make require banks to hold greater reserves

re-regulate financial trading by the SEC

ban unsecured collateralized default swaps

for starters

bob wrote:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:38:19 -0400, L
wrote:


bob wrote:

7 regulate wall street to stop the horse**** games they're playing


How do you propose that, Bob?

require investment houses to use non federally insured funds for
proprietary trading

reform the ratings houses

make require banks to hold greater reserves

re-regulate financial trading by the SEC

ban unsecured collateralized default swaps

for starters

That's rhetoric, Bob - not a proposal.

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:26:05 -0400, L G
wrote:

bob wrote:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:38:19 -0400, L
wrote:


bob wrote:

7 regulate wall street to stop the horse**** games they're playing


How do you propose that, Bob?

require investment houses to use non federally insured funds for
proprietary trading

reform the ratings houses

make require banks to hold greater reserves

re-regulate financial trading by the SEC

ban unsecured collateralized default swaps

for starters

That's rhetoric, Bob - not a proposal.

meaningless

because such proposals have been made by a number of economists

so you're just telling me you know zip about economics

no surprise for a frothing at the mouth right winger