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Obama endorses slavery
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:53:58 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:21:54 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 13:22:41 -0700, wrote: The Ryan proposal calls for $165B cuts in Medicare ... basically eliminating it. That is less than half of what they spend but I see your point. I doubt anyone is really taking his idea seriously but I applaud the bravery to even open the dialog. We do need to find a way to get a handle on costs. Ryan isn't brave, he's stupid and isolated in his little ideological cocoon He wants to kill Medicare. His next step would be SS. He had no idea how his "plan" would **** the GOP. Don't mistake stupid sincerity for bravery. if he were brave he'd propose doubling capital gains taxes and subjecting them to social security taxes The only problem with that is it would crush the stock market and devalue everyone's 401 which, of course, is bull**** where's your evidence and no, it wouldnt crush 401K's because they are taxed as regular income, NOT as capital gains you dont know **** about **** do you?? |
Obama endorses slavery
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:10:10 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:44:47 -0700, wrote: There are a reported 150 suspected (mostly low level) terrorists in Afghanistan and we have 150,000 people looking for them. That is projected to be $1.8 trillion in 10 years. Instead we are spending another couple hundred billion on other adventures in the middle east and we are not even sure who the people we are putting in power will turn out to be. A couple of hundred billion or things other than the Iraq/Afg wars? Huh? Where are you getting that number? We are spent over $600m in a week in Libya and that is only one week in one little war. Who knows how all of this will shake out and what other wars we will end up in that area? Syria?, Yemen?, maybe even an undesired outcome in Egypt? The genie is out of the bottle over there, we have our fingerprints all over it and if it all implodes we bought it. It was more than 1/2 that as best I can see. We're not flying missions. The top 5 hits on google (news stories) peg it at $600-608B What are you looking at? You're claiming that it's currently costing us $600M? I'm assuming the last was a typo. You know it's not costing us that much, although it may have for one week. |
Obama endorses slavery
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:41:32 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote: The only problem with that is it would crush the stock market and devalue everyone's 401 which, of course, is bull**** where's your evidence and no, it wouldnt crush 401K's because they are taxed as regular income, NOT as capital gains you dont know **** about **** do you?? If people start using other ways to invest the stock market will suffer and that makes the 401k suffer. proof? well. none. capital gains taxes are as low as they've ever been in US history how's the US economy doing? we at full employment? how's the deficit? is it low? no. it's not. and there's NO proof that supply side horse**** leads anywhere except the horse stables. it's a pile of **** invented by those who want to continue to rape the middle class and then rely on the right wing to invent a fairy tale the fact is, capital gains should be taxed as regular income. there's no reason the rich should get a free ride. i'm not a socialist and dont believe in socialism for the rich like the right wing does If you look, the big boom in the stock market started with the Clinton cut on capital gains. 1996, effective in 1997. gee. and capital gains were cut under bush which led to the greatest depression in US history since 29 so there's NO proof that right wing supply side bull**** works. none. They use the tax code to modify behavior. When you raise the tax on something, people do less of it. They drop the tax when they want you to do more of it. gee. so we have socialism for the rich and the middle class pays for it you want a good economy? high demand? cut taxes on the middle class. but the right wing OPPOSES that. I didn't say anything about the tax rate on the 401k. Read before you insult. you need to write more clearly. cant help it that the right wing cant right. after all if you believe the laffer curve you'll believe anything |
Obama endorses slavery
On 4/26/2011 6:11 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:41:32 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote: The only problem with that is it would crush the stock market and devalue everyone's 401 which, of course, is bull**** where's your evidence and no, it wouldnt crush 401K's because they are taxed as regular income, NOT as capital gains you dont know **** about **** do you?? If people start using other ways to invest the stock market will suffer and that makes the 401k suffer. proof? well. none. capital gains taxes are as low as they've ever been in US history how's the US economy doing? we at full employment? how's the deficit? is it low? no. it's not. and there's NO proof that supply side horse**** leads anywhere except the horse stables. it's a pile of **** invented by those who want to continue to rape the middle class and then rely on the right wing to invent a fairy tale the fact is, capital gains should be taxed as regular income. there's no reason the rich should get a free ride. i'm not a socialist and dont believe in socialism for the rich like the right wing does If you look, the big boom in the stock market started with the Clinton cut on capital gains. 1996, effective in 1997. gee. and capital gains were cut under bush which led to the greatest depression in US history since 29 so there's NO proof that right wing supply side bull**** works. none. They use the tax code to modify behavior. When you raise the tax on something, people do less of it. They drop the tax when they want you to do more of it. gee. so we have socialism for the rich and the middle class pays for it you want a good economy? high demand? cut taxes on the middle class. but the right wing OPPOSES that. I didn't say anything about the tax rate on the 401k. Read before you insult. you need to write more clearly. cant help it that the right wing cant right. after all if you believe the laffer curve you'll believe anything Low cap gains tax had little or nothing to do with the recession. It was greed, plain and simple. "....right wing cant right...." Talk about writing clearly! |
Obama endorses slavery
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:44:03 -0700, sent the
following message On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:10:10 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:44:47 -0700, wrote: There are a reported 150 suspected (mostly low level) terrorists in Afghanistan and we have 150,000 people looking for them. That is projected to be $1.8 trillion in 10 years. Instead we are spending another couple hundred billion on other adventures in the middle east and we are not even sure who the people we are putting in power will turn out to be. A couple of hundred billion or things other than the Iraq/Afg wars? Huh? Where are you getting that number? We are spent over $600m in a week in Libya and that is only one week in one little war. Who knows how all of this will shake out and what other wars we will end up in that area? Syria?, Yemen?, maybe even an undesired outcome in Egypt? The genie is out of the bottle over there, we have our fingerprints all over it and if it all implodes we bought it. It was more than 1/2 that as best I can see. We're not flying missions. The top 5 hits on google (news stories) peg it at $600-608B What are you looking at? You're claiming that it's currently costing us $600M? I'm assuming the last was a typo. You know it's not costing us that much, although it may have for one week. You aare as dense as the wood on Mr Krause's new deck. |
Obama endorses slavery
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 06:11:11 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:41:32 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote: The only problem with that is it would crush the stock market and devalue everyone's 401 which, of course, is bull**** where's your evidence and no, it wouldnt crush 401K's because they are taxed as regular income, NOT as capital gains you dont know **** about **** do you?? If people start using other ways to invest the stock market will suffer and that makes the 401k suffer. proof? well. none. capital gains taxes are as low as they've ever been in US history how's the US economy doing? we at full employment? how's the deficit? is it low? The stock market is doing great. that is good for your 401k isn't it? That is all I said. the fact is, capital gains should be taxed as regular income. there's no reason the rich should get a free ride. i'm not a socialist and dont believe in socialism for the rich like the right wing does I am far from rich as are most seniors and they enjoy the lower rates on their investments. They are also the ones who VOTE If you look, the big boom in the stock market started with the Clinton cut on capital gains. 1996, effective in 1997. gee. and capital gains were cut under bush which led to the greatest depression in US history since 29 Again the stock market came out long before the general economy did. BTW do you think we should tax the gain on your house as ordinary income too? They use the tax code to modify behavior. When you raise the tax on something, people do less of it. They drop the tax when they want you to do more of it. gee. so we have socialism for the rich and the middle class pays for it you want a good economy? high demand? cut taxes on the middle class. but the right wing OPPOSES that. The middle class has the lowest tax rate since the Hoover administration. I made $100k and paid about $11,000 in income tax Reply: Bob. I am not rich, but invest for capitol gains as opposed to day trading, etc. that would be the mode if you taxed capitol gains as ordinary income. Why would I invest in a startup? If I had to gamble money, I want a better return. If I have to set on the money for 5 years, why can I not take a loss at ordinary income during those years where I was upside down? If you had invested conservatively and across the board while the economy was good you would not be crying the blues. |
Obama endorses slavery
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 01:22:09 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:44:03 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:10:10 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:44:47 -0700, wrote: There are a reported 150 suspected (mostly low level) terrorists in Afghanistan and we have 150,000 people looking for them. That is projected to be $1.8 trillion in 10 years. Instead we are spending another couple hundred billion on other adventures in the middle east and we are not even sure who the people we are putting in power will turn out to be. A couple of hundred billion or things other than the Iraq/Afg wars? Huh? Where are you getting that number? We are spent over $600m in a week in Libya and that is only one week in one little war. Who knows how all of this will shake out and what other wars we will end up in that area? Syria?, Yemen?, maybe even an undesired outcome in Egypt? The genie is out of the bottle over there, we have our fingerprints all over it and if it all implodes we bought it. It was more than 1/2 that as best I can see. We're not flying missions. The top 5 hits on google (news stories) peg it at $600-608B What are you looking at? You're claiming that it's currently costing us $600M? I'm assuming the last was a typo. You know it's not costing us that much, although it may have for one week. That was what it cost with the AC130s and A10s. God only knows what the predators and global hawks cost. A lot of that cost is hidden in black CIA budgets but even the open parts are in the US bases where they are controlled. Uh huh... why not count the toll calls from the White House to the Admiral on scene in the Med? |
Obama endorses slavery
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:53:32 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 06:11:11 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:41:32 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote: The only problem with that is it would crush the stock market and devalue everyone's 401 which, of course, is bull**** where's your evidence and no, it wouldnt crush 401K's because they are taxed as regular income, NOT as capital gains you dont know **** about **** do you?? If people start using other ways to invest the stock market will suffer and that makes the 401k suffer. proof? well. none. capital gains taxes are as low as they've ever been in US history how's the US economy doing? we at full employment? how's the deficit? is it low? The stock market is doing great. that is good for your 401k isn't it? That is all I said. the fact is, capital gains should be taxed as regular income. there's no reason the rich should get a free ride. i'm not a socialist and dont believe in socialism for the rich like the right wing does I am far from rich as are most seniors and they enjoy the lower rates on their investments. They are also the ones who VOTE If you look, the big boom in the stock market started with the Clinton cut on capital gains. 1996, effective in 1997. gee. and capital gains were cut under bush which led to the greatest depression in US history since 29 Again the stock market came out long before the general economy did. BTW do you think we should tax the gain on your house as ordinary income too? They use the tax code to modify behavior. When you raise the tax on something, people do less of it. They drop the tax when they want you to do more of it. gee. so we have socialism for the rich and the middle class pays for it you want a good economy? high demand? cut taxes on the middle class. but the right wing OPPOSES that. The middle class has the lowest tax rate since the Hoover administration. I made $100k and paid about $11,000 in income tax Reply: Bob. I am not rich, but invest for capitol gains as opposed to day trading, etc. that would be the mode if you taxed capitol gains as ordinary income. Why would I invest in a startup? If I had to gamble money, I want a better return. If I have to set on the money for 5 years, why can I not take a loss at ordinary income during those years where I was upside down? If you had invested conservatively and across the board while the economy was good you would not be crying the blues. You're not going to be investing in a startup. Feel free to continue to vote against your own best interest without really understanding the consequences. |
Obama endorses slavery
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:22:55 -0400, Disgruntled wrote:
On 4/26/2011 6:11 AM, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:41:32 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote: you need to write more clearly. cant help it that the right wing cant right. after all if you believe the laffer curve you'll believe anything Low cap gains tax had little or nothing to do with the recession. It was greed, plain and simple. "....right wing cant right...." Talk about writing clearly! absolutely true. the right got EVERYTHING they wanted and THIS economy is the result |
Obama endorses slavery
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 12:13:18 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 06:11:11 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: ? If people start using other ways to invest the stock market will suffer and that makes the 401k suffer. proof? well. none. capital gains taxes are as low as they've ever been in US history how's the US economy doing? we at full employment? how's the deficit? is it low? The stock market is doing great. that is good for your 401k isn't it? That is all I said. let's see we're 10 trillion poorer than we were 3 years ago we have to cut defense we have to cut medicare we have to cut social security we have to raise taxes we have a record deficit do you READ the freakin' NEWS right winger?? the fact is, capital gains should be taxed as regular income. there's no reason the rich should get a free ride. i'm not a socialist and dont believe in socialism for the rich like the right wing does I am far from rich as are most seniors and they enjoy the lower rates on their investments. They are also the ones who VOTE as paul krugman said in a recent article about the right wing seniors who voted GOP and will now be gutted like fish: SUCKERS!! If you look, the big boom in the stock market started with the Clinton cut on capital gains. 1996, effective in 1997. gee. and capital gains were cut under bush which led to the greatest depression in US history since 29 Again the stock market came out long before the general economy did. BTW do you think we should tax the gain on your house as ordinary income too? i'm midde class. the middle class cant afford a tax increase AND my house, like most, is under water tax the rich. THEY ****ed this economy. do you follow the news?? They use the tax code to modify behavior. When you raise the tax on something, people do less of it. They drop the tax when they want you to do more of it. gee. so we have socialism for the rich and the middle class pays for it you want a good economy? high demand? cut taxes on the middle class. but the right wing OPPOSES that. The middle class has the lowest tax rate since the Hoover administration. I made $100k and paid about $11,000 in income tax and the rich have the lowest tax rates since 1931. AND they ****ed the economy. but you say 'let 'em do it again you're a socialist for the rich we simply cant afford your socialism any more |
Obama endorses slavery
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:02:44 -0400, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:22:55 -0400, Disgruntled wrote: On 4/26/2011 6:11 AM, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:41:32 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote: you need to write more clearly. cant help it that the right wing cant right. after all if you believe the laffer curve you'll believe anything Low cap gains tax had little or nothing to do with the recession. It was greed, plain and simple. "....right wing cant right...." Talk about writing clearly! absolutely true. the right got EVERYTHING they wanted and THIS economy is the result It's not like their intentions were a secret either. I mean they've been advocating this stuff since the 1950s. |
Obama endorses slavery
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:01:27 -0700, wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:02:44 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:22:55 -0400, Disgruntled wrote: On 4/26/2011 6:11 AM, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:41:32 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote: you need to write more clearly. cant help it that the right wing cant right. after all if you believe the laffer curve you'll believe anything Low cap gains tax had little or nothing to do with the recession. It was greed, plain and simple. "....right wing cant right...." Talk about writing clearly! absolutely true. the right got EVERYTHING they wanted and THIS economy is the result It's not like their intentions were a secret either. I mean they've been advocating this stuff since the 1950s. what i love is that, every time they DESTROY the economy they just say it's because we didnt go far enough. you can only lose your virginity once. but the right believes in the perpetual hymen |
Obama endorses slavery
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:12:22 -0400, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:01:27 -0700, wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:02:44 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:22:55 -0400, Disgruntled wrote: On 4/26/2011 6:11 AM, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:41:32 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote: you need to write more clearly. cant help it that the right wing cant right. after all if you believe the laffer curve you'll believe anything Low cap gains tax had little or nothing to do with the recession. It was greed, plain and simple. "....right wing cant right...." Talk about writing clearly! absolutely true. the right got EVERYTHING they wanted and THIS economy is the result It's not like their intentions were a secret either. I mean they've been advocating this stuff since the 1950s. what i love is that, every time they DESTROY the economy they just say it's because we didnt go far enough. you can only lose your virginity once. but the right believes in the perpetual hymen LOL Maybe they need to get laid more often! |
Obama endorses slavery
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:54:19 -0700, sent the
following message On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 20:12:22 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:01:27 -0700, wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:02:44 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:22:55 -0400, Disgruntled wrote: On 4/26/2011 6:11 AM, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:10:44 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:41:32 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:52:26 -0400, wrote: you need to write more clearly. cant help it that the right wing cant right. after all if you believe the laffer curve you'll believe anything Low cap gains tax had little or nothing to do with the recession. It was greed, plain and simple. "....right wing cant right...." Talk about writing clearly! absolutely true. the right got EVERYTHING they wanted and THIS economy is the result It's not like their intentions were a secret either. I mean they've been advocating this stuff since the 1950s. what i love is that, every time they DESTROY the economy they just say it's because we didnt go far enough. you can only lose your virginity once. but the right believes in the perpetual hymen LOL Maybe they need to get laid more often! You would do well to follow your own advice. |
Obama endorses slavery
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:44:27 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 22:24:00 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... how did they screw us?? do you pay attention to the news? ever heard of wall street? collateralized debt obligations that went from 320B to 62 TRILLION in 10 years? about a financial sector that went from 20% to 40% GDP in the same period? about the collapse of lehman bros....bailouts of goldman sachs you've never heard of this? i can guarantee you this: he'll either IGNORE that question or tell us obama was responsbile for the 29 crash Reply: totally stupid response you made there Bob. yep. ilike i said. he ignores the role of the rich completely. it absolutely blows the right wing's mind to think the rich can bankrupt the US by greed. to the right, the rich are blessed of god, virtuous and considerate, focused only on doing what's best for america. and it's always wrong to regulate ANYTHING the rich do such are the fairy tales of the right wing |
Obama endorses slavery
"wf3h" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:44:27 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 22:24:00 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message . .. how did they screw us?? do you pay attention to the news? ever heard of wall street? collateralized debt obligations that went from 320B to 62 TRILLION in 10 years? about a financial sector that went from 20% to 40% GDP in the same period? about the collapse of lehman bros....bailouts of goldman sachs you've never heard of this? i can guarantee you this: he'll either IGNORE that question or tell us obama was responsbile for the 29 crash Reply: totally stupid response you made there Bob. yep. ilike i said. he ignores the role of the rich completely. it absolutely blows the right wing's mind to think the rich can bankrupt the US by greed. to the right, the rich are blessed of god, virtuous and considerate, focused only on doing what's best for america. and it's always wrong to regulate ANYTHING the rich do such are the fairy tales of the right wing Reply: you are really stupid. Yup, Wall Street screwed us. They are still screwing us Obama is in bed with all the Wall Street powers. They are his advisors. Couple years after Bush, we still have to big to fail financial houses. Actually they have grown bigger under President Obama's leadership. We are spending 160% if out tax receipts. Actually it is higher than that as Medicare and SS receipts hide even more debt. How long do you think a company or a family can overspend without either bankruptcy or ending up leaving on the street? What has Obama done to help the US economy? Really? Unemployment is still very high, higher than the rate shows as they no do not count those who have been out of work for a couple years. The dollar is falling against all currency except maybe the Icelandic version (ISK). |
Obama endorses slavery
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:14:38 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:44:27 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... do you pay attention to the news? ever heard of wall street? collateralized debt obligations that went from 320B to 62 TRILLION in 10 years? about a financial sector that went from 20% to 40% GDP in the same period? about the collapse of lehman bros....bailouts of goldman sachs you've never heard of this? i can guarantee you this: he'll either IGNORE that question or tell us obama was responsbile for the 29 crash Reply: totally stupid response you made there Bob. yep. ilike i said. he ignores the role of the rich completely. it absolutely blows the right wing's mind to think the rich can bankrupt the US by greed. to the right, the rich are blessed of god, virtuous and considerate, focused only on doing what's best for america. and it's always wrong to regulate ANYTHING the rich do such are the fairy tales of the right wing Reply: you are really stupid. Yup, Wall Street screwed us. They are still screwing us Obama is in bed with all the Wall Street powers. let's see the right GUARANTEES that america is a plutocracy. so it doesnt matter WHO is the pres he'll dance to wall street. that's the american dream. and obama just does it LESS than bush did. that's why the right hates him. he's not a complete fanatic like the GOP is They are his advisors. Couple years after Bush, we still have to big to fail financial houses. Actually they have grown bigger under President Obama's leadership. uh huh. remember what happened when BP destroyed the gulf? the GOP INSISTED that obama apologize to BP for hurting their feelings. in america, we have ONLY the right and ONLY freedom for corporations and the right wing WANTS it that way. so go ahead spew your hatred of blacks. the fact is YOU right wingers did this. YOU made this country fail. YOU bankrupted it. We are spending 160% if out tax receipts. first pres to do that: bush. Actually it is higher than that as Medicare and SS receipts hide even more debt. How long do you think a company or a family can overspend without either bankruptcy or ending up leaving on the street? we're already bankrupt thanks to fundamentalist deregulation pushed by YOU right wingers we're ****ed. and it's because of the right wing |
Obama endorses slavery
"wf3h" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:14:38 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:44:27 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message . .. do you pay attention to the news? ever heard of wall street? collateralized debt obligations that went from 320B to 62 TRILLION in 10 years? about a financial sector that went from 20% to 40% GDP in the same period? about the collapse of lehman bros....bailouts of goldman sachs you've never heard of this? i can guarantee you this: he'll either IGNORE that question or tell us obama was responsbile for the 29 crash Reply: totally stupid response you made there Bob. yep. ilike i said. he ignores the role of the rich completely. it absolutely blows the right wing's mind to think the rich can bankrupt the US by greed. to the right, the rich are blessed of god, virtuous and considerate, focused only on doing what's best for america. and it's always wrong to regulate ANYTHING the rich do such are the fairy tales of the right wing Reply: you are really stupid. Yup, Wall Street screwed us. They are still screwing us Obama is in bed with all the Wall Street powers. let's see the right GUARANTEES that america is a plutocracy. so it doesnt matter WHO is the pres he'll dance to wall street. that's the american dream. and obama just does it LESS than bush did. that's why the right hates him. he's not a complete fanatic like the GOP is They are his advisors. Couple years after Bush, we still have to big to fail financial houses. Actually they have grown bigger under President Obama's leadership. uh huh. remember what happened when BP destroyed the gulf? the GOP INSISTED that obama apologize to BP for hurting their feelings. in america, we have ONLY the right and ONLY freedom for corporations and the right wing WANTS it that way. so go ahead spew your hatred of blacks. the fact is YOU right wingers did this. YOU made this country fail. YOU bankrupted it. We are spending 160% if out tax receipts. first pres to do that: bush. Actually it is higher than that as Medicare and SS receipts hide even more debt. How long do you think a company or a family can overspend without either bankruptcy or ending up leaving on the street? we're already bankrupt thanks to fundamentalist deregulation pushed by YOU right wingers we're ****ed. and it's because of the right wing Reply: We are ****ed by the left wing now. Just because Bush screwed us with spending, does not mean that Obama has to exceed at that subject. Seems as if you think Obama is of the left, therefore can do no wrong. Why are we still in Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Libya? Why are we still supporting and growing too big to fail financial house? Bush is out of the White House a couple years now, Obama is already running for reelection/ Why are we still ****ed? |
Obama endorses slavery
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:49:40 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:14:38 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: we're already bankrupt thanks to fundamentalist deregulation pushed by YOU right wingers we're ****ed. and it's because of the right wing Reply: We are ****ed by the left wing now. america has no left wing. and you have proposed NO policies which are 'left wing' at all. it's a cliche that the right drags out to frighten children Just because Bush screwed us with spending, does not mean that Obama has to exceed at that subject. Seems as if you think Obama is of the left, therefore can do no wrong. Why are we still in Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Libya? Why are we still supporting and growing too big to fail financial house? Bush is out of the White House a couple years now, Obama is already running for reelection/ Why are we still ****ed? the FACT is the deficit is being driven up by REDUCED revenues caused by unemployment...a fact the right ignores AND by factors such as medicare, unemployment, etc. over which obama has little control another fact the right ignores. the very fact you cant tell us what obama is doing to drive up spending merely shows you're a racist we're in afghanistan because of an event known as 9/11. was there with the coast guard. i saw what they did we're almost out of iraq....a fact you ignore and we're not in libya...a fact you ignore. we have drones there. and NATO is doing the heavy lifting because we pulled out. we are still ****ed for the same reason the 29 depression lasted 11 years the right wants it that way. as long as the rich are doing fine, the right doesnt give a **** about america |
Obama endorses slavery
"wf3h" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:49:40 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:14:38 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: we're already bankrupt thanks to fundamentalist deregulation pushed by YOU right wingers we're ****ed. and it's because of the right wing Reply: We are ****ed by the left wing now. america has no left wing. and you have proposed NO policies which are 'left wing' at all. it's a cliche that the right drags out to frighten children Just because Bush screwed us with spending, does not mean that Obama has to exceed at that subject. Seems as if you think Obama is of the left, therefore can do no wrong. Why are we still in Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Libya? Why are we still supporting and growing too big to fail financial house? Bush is out of the White House a couple years now, Obama is already running for reelection/ Why are we still ****ed? the FACT is the deficit is being driven up by REDUCED revenues caused by unemployment...a fact the right ignores AND by factors such as medicare, unemployment, etc. over which obama has little control another fact the right ignores. the very fact you cant tell us what obama is doing to drive up spending merely shows you're a racist we're in afghanistan because of an event known as 9/11. was there with the coast guard. i saw what they did we're almost out of iraq....a fact you ignore and we're not in libya...a fact you ignore. we have drones there. and NATO is doing the heavy lifting because we pulled out. we are still ****ed for the same reason the 29 depression lasted 11 years the right wants it that way. as long as the rich are doing fine, the right doesnt give a **** about america Reply: The deficits are being driven up by overspending |
Obama endorses slavery
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:49:40 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:14:38 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:44:27 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... do you pay attention to the news? ever heard of wall street? collateralized debt obligations that went from 320B to 62 TRILLION in 10 years? about a financial sector that went from 20% to 40% GDP in the same period? about the collapse of lehman bros....bailouts of goldman sachs you've never heard of this? i can guarantee you this: he'll either IGNORE that question or tell us obama was responsbile for the 29 crash Reply: totally stupid response you made there Bob. yep. ilike i said. he ignores the role of the rich completely. it absolutely blows the right wing's mind to think the rich can bankrupt the US by greed. to the right, the rich are blessed of god, virtuous and considerate, focused only on doing what's best for america. and it's always wrong to regulate ANYTHING the rich do such are the fairy tales of the right wing Reply: you are really stupid. Yup, Wall Street screwed us. They are still screwing us Obama is in bed with all the Wall Street powers. let's see the right GUARANTEES that america is a plutocracy. so it doesnt matter WHO is the pres he'll dance to wall street. that's the american dream. and obama just does it LESS than bush did. that's why the right hates him. he's not a complete fanatic like the GOP is They are his advisors. Couple years after Bush, we still have to big to fail financial houses. Actually they have grown bigger under President Obama's leadership. uh huh. remember what happened when BP destroyed the gulf? the GOP INSISTED that obama apologize to BP for hurting their feelings. in america, we have ONLY the right and ONLY freedom for corporations and the right wing WANTS it that way. so go ahead spew your hatred of blacks. the fact is YOU right wingers did this. YOU made this country fail. YOU bankrupted it. We are spending 160% if out tax receipts. first pres to do that: bush. Actually it is higher than that as Medicare and SS receipts hide even more debt. How long do you think a company or a family can overspend without either bankruptcy or ending up leaving on the street? we're already bankrupt thanks to fundamentalist deregulation pushed by YOU right wingers we're ****ed. and it's because of the right wing Reply: We are ****ed by the left wing now. Just because Bush screwed us with spending, does not mean that Obama has to exceed at that subject. Seems as if you think Obama is of the left, therefore can do no wrong. Why are we still in Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Libya? Why are we still supporting and growing too big to fail financial house? Bush is out of the White House a couple years now, Obama is already running for reelection/ Why are we still ****ed? Well, I think when you claim that "we" are ****ed, I think you mean "you" are ****ed. FYI, Obama is perhaps slightly left on the spectrum of politics. He's very centrist on most issues, and even ****es off those on the left fairly regularly with his pandering to the right. But, of course, people like you don't care about the actual facts, so believe what you want. Whatever Bush did to this great country will take years and years to fix. You just can't handle the truth, apparently. |
Obama endorses slavery
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:32:46 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:49:40 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:14:38 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: we're already bankrupt thanks to fundamentalist deregulation pushed by YOU right wingers we're ****ed. and it's because of the right wing Reply: We are ****ed by the left wing now. america has no left wing. and you have proposed NO policies which are 'left wing' at all. it's a cliche that the right drags out to frighten children Just because Bush screwed us with spending, does not mean that Obama has to exceed at that subject. Seems as if you think Obama is of the left, therefore can do no wrong. Why are we still in Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Libya? Why are we still supporting and growing too big to fail financial house? Bush is out of the White House a couple years now, Obama is already running for reelection/ Why are we still ****ed? the FACT is the deficit is being driven up by REDUCED revenues caused by unemployment...a fact the right ignores AND by factors such as medicare, unemployment, etc. over which obama has little control another fact the right ignores. the very fact you cant tell us what obama is doing to drive up spending merely shows you're a racist we're in afghanistan because of an event known as 9/11. was there with the coast guard. i saw what they did we're almost out of iraq....a fact you ignore and we're not in libya...a fact you ignore. we have drones there. and NATO is doing the heavy lifting because we pulled out. we are still ****ed for the same reason the 29 depression lasted 11 years the right wants it that way. as long as the rich are doing fine, the right doesnt give a **** about america Reply: The deficits are being driven up by overspending Yes, that's true. Also by the terrible economy, which is what Bush left us. Also, by the tax cuts that remain in effect on the richest among us. Also, by the huge subsidies and tax breaks that go to corps like big oil and those who export jobs overseas. A big chuck of the "overspending" can be solved by not spending one dollar more on any additional defense spending... keep the current programs, but nothing else, eliminating tax breaks and subsidies for big oil and similar (e.g., big agri), and passing PayGo, which the Republicans have blocked, because, apparently, their number one goal is to "have Obama as a one-term president" (McConnell). |
Obama endorses slavery
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:32:46 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:49:40 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: the FACT is the deficit is being driven up by REDUCED revenues caused by unemployment...a fact the right ignores AND by factors such as medicare, unemployment, etc. over which obama has little control another fact the right ignores. the very fact you cant tell us what obama is doing to drive up spending merely shows you're a racist we're in afghanistan because of an event known as 9/11. was there with the coast guard. i saw what they did we're almost out of iraq....a fact you ignore and we're not in libya...a fact you ignore. we have drones there. and NATO is doing the heavy lifting because we pulled out. we are still ****ed for the same reason the 29 depression lasted 11 years the right wants it that way. as long as the rich are doing fine, the right doesnt give a **** about america Reply: The deficits are being driven up by overspending the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY are the largest components of the deficit your cliche is mindless babbling |
Obama endorses slavery
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:34:29 -0400, wf3h wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:32:46 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:49:40 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: the FACT is the deficit is being driven up by REDUCED revenues caused by unemployment...a fact the right ignores AND by factors such as medicare, unemployment, etc. over which obama has little control another fact the right ignores. the very fact you cant tell us what obama is doing to drive up spending merely shows you're a racist we're in afghanistan because of an event known as 9/11. was there with the coast guard. i saw what they did we're almost out of iraq....a fact you ignore and we're not in libya...a fact you ignore. we have drones there. and NATO is doing the heavy lifting because we pulled out. we are still ****ed for the same reason the 29 depression lasted 11 years the right wants it that way. as long as the rich are doing fine, the right doesnt give a **** about america Reply: The deficits are being driven up by overspending the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY are the largest components of the deficit your cliche is mindless babbling You've got to know that facts really don't matter! |
Obama endorses slavery
"wf3h" wrote in message ...
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:32:46 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:49:40 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: the FACT is the deficit is being driven up by REDUCED revenues caused by unemployment...a fact the right ignores AND by factors such as medicare, unemployment, etc. over which obama has little control another fact the right ignores. the very fact you cant tell us what obama is doing to drive up spending merely shows you're a racist we're in afghanistan because of an event known as 9/11. was there with the coast guard. i saw what they did we're almost out of iraq....a fact you ignore and we're not in libya...a fact you ignore. we have drones there. and NATO is doing the heavy lifting because we pulled out. we are still ****ed for the same reason the 29 depression lasted 11 years the right wants it that way. as long as the rich are doing fine, the right doesnt give a **** about america Reply: The deficits are being driven up by overspending the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY are the largest components of the deficit your cliche is mindless babbling REPLY: Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché. We as a country are spending $1.60 for every tax dollar collected. How much did Bush cut the tax collection? Double the amount of Personal Income Tax collected and we could still not balance the budget. Explain why it is all Bush's fault. No ****ing cliché. A reasoned response. If another cliché, forget about ever being considered as have a brain and not just a waste of oxygen. |
Obama endorses slavery
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:32:46 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: Reply: The deficits are being driven up by overspending the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY are the largest components of the deficit your cliche is mindless babbling REPLY: Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché. really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best thing that's ever happened to the US. well, there's always this: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1 aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it? you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right? We as a country are spending $1.60 for every tax dollar collected. How much did Bush cut the tax collection? Double the amount of Personal Income Tax collected and we could still not balance the budget. Explain why it is all Bush's fault. No ****ing cliché. A reasoned response. If another cliché, forget about ever being considered as have a brain and not just a waste of oxygen. it's bush's fault because 1. he cut taxes especially on the rich 2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare 3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq 4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy and yet the right still blames the black guy |
Obama endorses slavery
"wf3h" wrote in message ...
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:32:46 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: Reply: The deficits are being driven up by overspending the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY are the largest components of the deficit your cliche is mindless babbling REPLY: Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché. really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best thing that's ever happened to the US. well, there's always this: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1 aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it? you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right? We as a country are spending $1.60 for every tax dollar collected. How much did Bush cut the tax collection? Double the amount of Personal Income Tax collected and we could still not balance the budget. Explain why it is all Bush's fault. No ****ing cliché. A reasoned response. If another cliché, forget about ever being considered as have a brain and not just a waste of oxygen. it's bush's fault because 1. he cut taxes especially on the rich 2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare 3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq 4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy and yet the right still blames the black guy Reply: You are still stupid. Obama has been President long enough to have started his reelection quest. Why did he not cut spending? Not increase it. Why did he make Wall Street to big to fail house bigger? Why has he accepted all the debt from those financial houses now paying Billions of bucks in bonus money so they could pay those bonus bucks? Why has he not implemented a tax of 110% on all bonus money over say 1 million bucks? You are so shallow. It is always some racist or Right Winger that is the problem. You are a racist in you are like Jessie Jackson. Blame all on race. You must be one crappy engineer, or at least have no creative ability, as you have no real though processes. |
Obama endorses slavery
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:32:46 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:49:40 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: the FACT is the deficit is being driven up by REDUCED revenues caused by unemployment...a fact the right ignores AND by factors such as medicare, unemployment, etc. over which obama has little control another fact the right ignores. the very fact you cant tell us what obama is doing to drive up spending merely shows you're a racist we're in afghanistan because of an event known as 9/11. was there with the coast guard. i saw what they did we're almost out of iraq....a fact you ignore and we're not in libya...a fact you ignore. we have drones there. and NATO is doing the heavy lifting because we pulled out. we are still ****ed for the same reason the 29 depression lasted 11 years the right wants it that way. as long as the rich are doing fine, the right doesnt give a **** about america Reply: The deficits are being driven up by overspending the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY are the largest components of the deficit your cliche is mindless babbling REPLY: Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché. We as a country are spending $1.60 for every tax dollar collected. How much did Bush cut the tax collection? Double the amount of Personal Income Tax collected and we could still not balance the budget. Explain why it is all Bush's fault. No ****ing cliché. A reasoned response. If another cliché, forget about ever being considered as have a brain and not just a waste of oxygen. Why don't you talk to Trump. Maybe he can look into Obama's high school transcripts. You're a cliche in racism and ignorance. |
Obama endorses slavery
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:48:06 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 03:05:02 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:32:46 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: Reply: The deficits are being driven up by overspending the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY are the largest components of the deficit your cliche is mindless babbling REPLY: Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché. really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best thing that's ever happened to the US. well, there's always this: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1 aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it? you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right? We as a country are spending $1.60 for every tax dollar collected. How much did Bush cut the tax collection? Double the amount of Personal Income Tax collected and we could still not balance the budget. Explain why it is all Bush's fault. No ****ing cliché. A reasoned response. If another cliché, forget about ever being considered as have a brain and not just a waste of oxygen. it's bush's fault because 1. he cut taxes especially on the rich 2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare 3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq 4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy and yet the right still blames the black guy The Bush tax cuts are about a quarter of the deficit (all of the cuts, not just the $250k people). The whole nut is $370B a year. The deficit is $1.5T Repealing ALL of them is a start but not a panacea. You still need to find $1.13T, either in more revenue or cutting spending. So far the fed's answer is to print money and monetize the debt through "quantitative easing" (a polite term for inflating your way out of the problem). Let's see how the bond market deals with that. And, we don't have to solve the "whole" nut in one action. Keep at it. You seem to think in the very short term when it suits you. |
Obama endorses slavery
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:55:51 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:32:46 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: Reply: The deficits are being driven up by overspending the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY are the largest components of the deficit your cliche is mindless babbling REPLY: Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché. really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best thing that's ever happened to the US. well, there's always this: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1 aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it? you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right? We as a country are spending $1.60 for every tax dollar collected. How much did Bush cut the tax collection? Double the amount of Personal Income Tax collected and we could still not balance the budget. Explain why it is all Bush's fault. No ****ing cliché. A reasoned response. If another cliché, forget about ever being considered as have a brain and not just a waste of oxygen. it's bush's fault because 1. he cut taxes especially on the rich 2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare 3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq 4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy and yet the right still blames the black guy Reply: You are still stupid. Obama has been President long enough to have started his reelection quest. Why did he not cut spending? Not increase it. Why did he make Wall Street to big to fail house bigger? Why has he accepted all the debt from those financial houses now paying Billions of bucks in bonus money so they could pay those bonus bucks? Why has he not implemented a tax of 110% on all bonus money over say 1 million bucks? You are so shallow. It is always some racist or Right Winger that is the problem. You are a racist in you are like Jessie Jackson. Blame all on race. You must be one crappy engineer, or at least have no creative ability, as you have no real though processes. For someone who claims someone else is stupid, you're the one who thinks Obama is the one who cuts spending. Last I checked its Congress' job. You are not part of the problem... you are the problem. |
Obama endorses slavery
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Obama endorses slavery
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:48:06 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 03:05:02 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: Reply: The deficits are being driven up by overspending the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY are the largest components of the deficit your cliche is mindless babbling REPLY: Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché. really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best thing that's ever happened to the US. well, there's always this: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1 aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it? you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right? it's bush's fault because 1. he cut taxes especially on the rich 2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare 3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq 4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy and yet the right still blames the black guy The Bush tax cuts are about a quarter of the deficit (all of the cuts, not just the $250k people). gee. and that's exactly what i said. they are the LARGEST component. The whole nut is $370B a year. The deficit is $1.5T Repealing ALL of them is a start but not a panacea. You still need to find $1.13T, either in more revenue or cutting spending. So far the fed's answer is to print money gee. i notice the RIGHT was doing this before the LEFT did. AND the GOP has had congress now for4 months and hasnt done ****. hasnt cut a dollar. not one. so your statement is a meanigless cliche |
Obama endorses slavery
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 15:41:25 -0700, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:55:51 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best thing that's ever happened to the US. well, there's always this: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1 aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it? you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right? For someone who claims someone else is stupid, you're the one who thinks Obama is the one who cuts spending. Last I checked its Congress' job. You are not part of the problem... you are the problem. yeah the right wing is pretty stupid uh...what happens to a bill the pres doesnt like, genius? any idea?? |
Obama endorses slavery
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:50:11 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 15:40:03 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:48:06 -0400, wrote: it's bush's fault because 1. he cut taxes especially on the rich 2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare 3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq 4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy and yet the right still blames the black guy The Bush tax cuts are about a quarter of the deficit (all of the cuts, not just the $250k people). The whole nut is $370B a year. The deficit is $1.5T Repealing ALL of them is a start but not a panacea. You still need to find $1.13T, either in more revenue or cutting spending. So far the fed's answer is to print money and monetize the debt through "quantitative easing" (a polite term for inflating your way out of the problem). Let's see how the bond market deals with that. And, we don't have to solve the "whole" nut in one action. Keep at it. You seem to think in the very short term when it suits you. You are not even willing to start fixing this. If we don't attack the deficit in some meaningful way we will never get a handle on the debt. If you repealed the whole Bush tax cut it is barely a decent start on the deficit, Now you're going to just lie? I clearly outlined a way to start. Repeal tax breaks for those over $250K, ding corps that ship jobs overseas, make them pay their fair share in taxes, end subsidies, and spend not one additional cent on the military. When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. Good suggestion. Please put down the shovel. Let me say this again slowly. a half of a percent hike in the interest we pay on the debt would eat all of repealing that Bush tax cut on the 250K+ people. What does that have to do with anything... so what. Interest rates change. How much would a 1/2% decrease in interest on the debt change our financials? So what. |
Obama endorses slavery
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 20:55:57 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:54:47 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:48:06 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 03:05:02 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: Reply: The deficits are being driven up by overspending the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY are the largest components of the deficit your cliche is mindless babbling REPLY: Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché. really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best thing that's ever happened to the US. well, there's always this: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1 aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it? you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right? it's bush's fault because 1. he cut taxes especially on the rich 2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare 3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq 4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy and yet the right still blames the black guy The Bush tax cuts are about a quarter of the deficit (all of the cuts, not just the $250k people). gee. and that's exactly what i said. they are the LARGEST component. Then you are wrong Bob. The tax cut on the $250k+ people is $700 billion over 10 years. The people less than $250k would pick up an additional $3 trillion over 10 years. The whole nut was $3.7T over 10 years. The whole nut is $370B a year. The deficit is $1.5T Repealing ALL of them is a start but not a panacea. You still need to find $1.13T, either in more revenue or cutting spending. So far the fed's answer is to print money gee. i notice the RIGHT was doing this before the LEFT did. AND the GOP has had congress now for4 months and hasnt done ****. hasnt cut a dollar. not one. so your statement is a meanigless cliche You have never heard me say Bush's economic policies or his wars were anything but insanity so that one won't work here. I agree the current congress is just as corrupt as the last 8 You forgot to add that it's Obama's fault. |
Obama endorses slavery
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:52:58 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 15:41:25 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:55:51 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:32:46 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: Reply: The deficits are being driven up by overspending the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY are the largest components of the deficit your cliche is mindless babbling REPLY: Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché. really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best thing that's ever happened to the US. well, there's always this: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1 aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it? you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right? We as a country are spending $1.60 for every tax dollar collected. How much did Bush cut the tax collection? Double the amount of Personal Income Tax collected and we could still not balance the budget. Explain why it is all Bush's fault. No ****ing cliché. A reasoned response. If another cliché, forget about ever being considered as have a brain and not just a waste of oxygen. it's bush's fault because 1. he cut taxes especially on the rich 2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare 3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq 4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy and yet the right still blames the black guy Reply: You are still stupid. Obama has been President long enough to have started his reelection quest. Why did he not cut spending? Not increase it. Why did he make Wall Street to big to fail house bigger? Why has he accepted all the debt from those financial houses now paying Billions of bucks in bonus money so they could pay those bonus bucks? Why has he not implemented a tax of 110% on all bonus money over say 1 million bucks? You are so shallow. It is always some racist or Right Winger that is the problem. You are a racist in you are like Jessie Jackson. Blame all on race. You must be one crappy engineer, or at least have no creative ability, as you have no real though processes. For someone who claims someone else is stupid, you're the one who thinks Obama is the one who cuts spending. Last I checked its Congress' job. You are not part of the problem... you are the problem. So when Bush was in office HE spent the money but now when Obama is in office it is congress spending the money. It is stupid statements like this that show how mindlessly partisan you are. Screw you. Bush pushed us into a war we didn't need nor could afford. He was the one who pushed tax cuts when none were needed. Sounds to me you're the partisan, stupid one. |
Obama endorses slavery
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 15:41:25 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:55:51 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:32:46 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: Reply: The deficits are being driven up by overspending the fact is the deficits are being driven up by bush's tax cuts. THEY are the largest components of the deficit your cliche is mindless babbling REPLY: Your racist cliché and Bush blame cliché is nothing but a cliché. really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best thing that's ever happened to the US. well, there's always this: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1 aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it? you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right? We as a country are spending $1.60 for every tax dollar collected. How much did Bush cut the tax collection? Double the amount of Personal Income Tax collected and we could still not balance the budget. Explain why it is all Bush's fault. No ****ing cliché. A reasoned response. If another cliché, forget about ever being considered as have a brain and not just a waste of oxygen. it's bush's fault because 1. he cut taxes especially on the rich 2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare 3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq 4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy and yet the right still blames the black guy Reply: You are still stupid. Obama has been President long enough to have started his reelection quest. Why did he not cut spending? Not increase it. Why did he make Wall Street to big to fail house bigger? Why has he accepted all the debt from those financial houses now paying Billions of bucks in bonus money so they could pay those bonus bucks? Why has he not implemented a tax of 110% on all bonus money over say 1 million bucks? You are so shallow. It is always some racist or Right Winger that is the problem. You are a racist in you are like Jessie Jackson. Blame all on race. You must be one crappy engineer, or at least have no creative ability, as you have no real though processes. For someone who claims someone else is stupid, you're the one who thinks Obama is the one who cuts spending. Last I checked its Congress' job. You are not part of the problem... you are the problem. So when Bush was in office HE spent the money but now when Obama is in office it is congress spending the money. It is stupid statements like this that show how mindlessly partisan you are. Reply: Can we hear an AMEN. Obama could start vetoing spending bills. He can not instigate spending, Bush seems to have been able to, but Obama could veto spending. Also he could get his party affiliations in Congress to institute more controls on the TOOBIGTOFAIL. And implore Congress to reinstitute Glass-Steagall or the equivalent. |
Obama endorses slavery
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 15:41:25 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:55:51 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message . .. really? oh. i forgot. you right wingers have your myths and you dont let evidence interfere with your delusions that the rich are the best thing that's ever happened to the US. well, there's always this: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1 aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it? you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right? For someone who claims someone else is stupid, you're the one who thinks Obama is the one who cuts spending. Last I checked its Congress' job. You are not part of the problem... you are the problem. yeah the right wing is pretty stupid uh...what happens to a bill the pres doesnt like, genius? any idea?? VETO the ****er!!! Then Congress has to show how bad they are to override the veto. Bush signed almost all the spending bills he received and those he should have vetoed he signed with some statement of memorandum. He was almost as F'ed up as Obama. I am giving the most F'ed award to Obama, as he came in saying he was going to fix the problems. Got us in to another couple wars, did not get us out of wars he said he would, and has been a cheerleader for overspending. |
Obama endorses slavery
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:54:47 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:48:06 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 03:05:02 -0400, wf3h wrote: On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 23:44:35 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: well, there's always this: http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa...36&emailView=1 aw, damn, it shows the bush tax cuts are driving the deficit that's a shame, right wnger, isn't it? you say 'overspending' 'cuz you heard that on rush. it doesnt mean anything but he said it so it MUST be true, right? it's bush's fault because 1. he cut taxes especially on the rich 2. he increased spending by an unfunded drug program added to medicare 3. he increased spending by spending a trillion in iraq 4. he deregulated the markets so that wall street blew up the economy and yet the right still blames the black guy The Bush tax cuts are about a quarter of the deficit (all of the cuts, not just the $250k people). gee. and that's exactly what i said. they are the LARGEST component. Then you are wrong Bob. The tax cut on the $250k+ people is $700 billion over 10 years. The people less than $250k would pick up an additional $3 trillion over 10 years. The whole nut was $3.7T over 10 years. WHOA sports fans. the tax cuts included the middle class. the TOTAL tax cuts amount to over 3.7 TRILLION and THAT is the largest component of the deficit AND 700 billion is nothing to sneeze at. the RICH CAUSED this problem and got a bailout. it's time they paid for the damage they've caused. why are THEY getting a free ride? why is the right so SOCIALIST?? i am NOT a socialist. the right is. i am NOT in favor of govt bailouts for the rich. the right its. i am NOT in favor of TAX subsidiies for the rich. the right is. the RIGHT is SOCIALIST. we need and END TO SOCIALISM. we need for the rich to start paying for the damage they caused |
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