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Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have
trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? |
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On Mar 24, 10:18*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:57:34 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. *However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. *I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. *I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. *What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? Go to a real fastener place and you might save a few bucks but stainless is the way to go on a salt water trailer. I started out a couple bolts at a time as they got nasty but I bit that bullet too after a few rounds of swapping out rusted bolts. I ran the white ground wire to each light instead of just to the trailer body and I hope this will prevent a few probs. |
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On Mar 24, 10:18*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:57:34 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. *However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. *I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. *I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. *What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? Go to a real fastener place and you might save a few bucks but stainless is the way to go on a salt water trailer. I started out a couple bolts at a time as they got nasty but I bit that bullet too after a few rounds of swapping out rusted bolts. The leaf springs are also rusting badly, not sure what to do about them. |
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On 3/24/2011 8:57 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? What about sacraficial anodes? They come in many sizes and shapes. Of course you will still have to replace the rusted hdw now. I don't know that it would work but seems like it should. |
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On 3/24/2011 11:25 PM, Lil Abner wrote:
On 3/24/2011 8:57 PM, Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? What about sacraficial anodes? They come in many sizes and shapes. Of course you will still have to replace the rusted hdw now. I don't know that it would work but seems like it should. Zincs need to be submerged in water to become an anode. |
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Boat trailer BS
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Mar 24, 10:18 pm, wrote: On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:57:34 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? Go to a real fastener place and you might save a few bucks but stainless is the way to go on a salt water trailer. I started out a couple bolts at a time as they got nasty but I bit that bullet too after a few rounds of swapping out rusted bolts. The leaf springs are also rusting badly, not sure what to do about them. ******************* By new ones if you're that concerned... they aren't very expensive. |
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True North wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Mar 24, 10:18 pm, wrote: On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:57:34 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? Go to a real fastener place and you might save a few bucks but stainless is the way to go on a salt water trailer. I started out a couple bolts at a time as they got nasty but I bit that bullet too after a few rounds of swapping out rusted bolts. The leaf springs are also rusting badly, not sure what to do about them. ******************* By new ones if you're that concerned... they aren't very expensive. If you wash your trailer after you use it, and maintain it, you'll have far fewer problems than Froggy seems to have. Maintenance to him seems to be "ignore it until it breaks." |
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On Mar 25, 12:32*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:24:25 -0400, Harryk wrote: True North wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message .... On Mar 24, 10:18 pm, wrote: On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:57:34 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? Go to a real fastener place and you might save a few bucks but stainless is the way to go on a salt water trailer. I started out a couple bolts at a time as they got nasty but I bit that bullet too after a few rounds of swapping out rusted bolts. The leaf springs are also rusting badly, not sure what to do about them. ******************* By new ones if you're that concerned... they aren't very expensive. If you wash your trailer after you use it, and maintain it, you'll have far fewer problems than Froggy seems to have. Maintenance to him seems to be "ignore it until it breaks." Sometimes that is hard to do. I wash the trailer after every use just after I run fresh water thru the motor. |
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On 3/25/2011 7:52 AM, OmDeFlume wrote:
On 3/24/2011 11:25 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 3/24/2011 8:57 PM, Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? What about sacraficial anodes? They come in many sizes and shapes. Of course you will still have to replace the rusted hdw now. I don't know that it would work but seems like it should. Zincs need to be submerged in water to become an anode. I'm not sure of the science behind it. If moisture, in the air, and natural electricity was making it to ground it would rust or a sacrificial anode could take it's place? You would think rubber tires would insulate it sufficiently but perhaps the jack stand is the route? If none of this makes sense oh well. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? If you have a galvanized trailer, just replace them with hot-dipped galvanized fasteners. If the existing fasteners can be cleaned up with a wire brush, buy some cold galvanizing spray paint - $8 at Home Depot - an re-coat them. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Mar 24, 10:18 pm, wrote: On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:57:34 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? Go to a real fastener place and you might save a few bucks but stainless is the way to go on a salt water trailer. I started out a couple bolts at a time as they got nasty but I bit that bullet too after a few rounds of swapping out rusted bolts. The leaf springs are also rusting badly, not sure what to do about them. That would depend on how bad they are. Surface rust is one thing. Serious corrosion is a different matter. Surface rust can be sandblasted and coated. |
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Lil Abner wrote:
On 3/24/2011 8:57 PM, Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? What about sacraficial anodes? They come in many sizes and shapes. Of course you will still have to replace the rusted hdw now. I don't know that it would work but seems like it should. They won't help much with a trailer. |
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Harryk wrote:
True North wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Mar 24, 10:18 pm, wrote: On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:57:34 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? Go to a real fastener place and you might save a few bucks but stainless is the way to go on a salt water trailer. I started out a couple bolts at a time as they got nasty but I bit that bullet too after a few rounds of swapping out rusted bolts. The leaf springs are also rusting badly, not sure what to do about them. ******************* By new ones if you're that concerned... they aren't very expensive. If you wash your trailer after you use it, and maintain it, you'll have far fewer problems than Froggy seems to have. Maintenance to him seems to be "ignore it until it breaks." While I realize this is one of your signature attack posts, there is a problem with your "advice". People who use their boats often - a concept that is foreign to you - don't always have the luxury of rinsing their trailers until they arrive back at the dock or their home. That leaves a trailer in the sun for hours with sal****er on it after the launch. |
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Lil Abner wrote:
On 3/25/2011 7:52 AM, OmDeFlume wrote: On 3/24/2011 11:25 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 3/24/2011 8:57 PM, Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? What about sacraficial anodes? They come in many sizes and shapes. Of course you will still have to replace the rusted hdw now. I don't know that it would work but seems like it should. Zincs need to be submerged in water to become an anode. I'm not sure of the science behind it. If moisture, in the air, and natural electricity was making it to ground it would rust or a sacrificial anode could take it's place? You would think rubber tires would insulate it sufficiently but perhaps the jack stand is the route? If none of this makes sense oh well. None of that applies if the trailer is out of the water. |
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On Mar 25, 7:55*pm, L G wrote:
Lil Abner wrote: On 3/25/2011 7:52 AM, OmDeFlume wrote: On 3/24/2011 11:25 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 3/24/2011 8:57 PM, Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? What about sacraficial anodes? They come in many sizes and shapes. Of course you will still have to replace the rusted hdw now. I don't know that it would work but seems like it should. Zincs need to be submerged in water to become an anode. I'm not sure of the science behind it. If moisture, in the air, and natural electricity was making it to ground it would rust or a sacrificial anode could take it's place? You would think rubber tires would insulate it sufficiently but perhaps the jack stand is the route? If none of this makes sense oh well. None of that applies if the trailer is out of the water. I am really sorta surprised at how much corrosion there is on the bolts and the springs and much less on the body. I do rinse it after every use so am not sure why the extreme corrosion. I think the original bolts were just zinc coated and not really galvanized whereas the body may have more zinc on it. I will probably replace the original bolts with hot dipped galvanized so as to minimize dissimilar metals in contact. |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
... On Mar 24, 10:18 pm, wrote: On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:57:34 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? Go to a real fastener place and you might save a few bucks but stainless is the way to go on a salt water trailer. I started out a couple bolts at a time as they got nasty but I bit that bullet too after a few rounds of swapping out rusted bolts. I ran the white ground wire to each light instead of just to the trailer body and I hope this will prevent a few probs. Reply: I always did that. My EZ-loader had galvanized bolts. Broke the bolt that holds the back cross member to the side frame one time. Actually after about 18 years, he wore through. So I would pull those and check them. |
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:02:07 -0400, OmDeFlume wrote: On 3/24/2011 10:18 PM, wrote: On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:57:34 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? Go to a real fastener place and you might save a few bucks but stainless is the way to go on a salt water trailer. I started out a couple bolts at a time as they got nasty but I bit that bullet too after a few rounds of swapping out rusted bolts. You can probably buy a box of 100 for the same price as 20 or 30 bought loose. That was what I was getting at. Reply: Break even point seems to be about 60 pieces on smaller stuff. Maybe 40 on larger? |
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:53:27 -0400, L G wrote:
Harryk wrote: True North wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Mar 24, 10:18 pm, wrote: On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:57:34 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? Go to a real fastener place and you might save a few bucks but stainless is the way to go on a salt water trailer. I started out a couple bolts at a time as they got nasty but I bit that bullet too after a few rounds of swapping out rusted bolts. The leaf springs are also rusting badly, not sure what to do about them. ******************* By new ones if you're that concerned... they aren't very expensive. If you wash your trailer after you use it, and maintain it, you'll have far fewer problems than Froggy seems to have. Maintenance to him seems to be "ignore it until it breaks." While I realize this is one of your signature attack posts, there is a problem with your "advice". People who use their boats often - a concept that is foreign to you - don't always have the luxury of rinsing their trailers until they arrive back at the dock or their home. That leaves a trailer in the sun for hours with sal****er on it after the launch. You don't think Harry carried a generator, high pressure pump, and a fifty gallon drum of fresh water in his 4Runner when he launched the 'Yo Ho'? You just don't give people enough credit. |
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John H wrote:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:53:27 -0400, L wrote: Harryk wrote: True North wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Mar 24, 10:18 pm, wrote: On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:57:34 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? Go to a real fastener place and you might save a few bucks but stainless is the way to go on a salt water trailer. I started out a couple bolts at a time as they got nasty but I bit that bullet too after a few rounds of swapping out rusted bolts. The leaf springs are also rusting badly, not sure what to do about them. ******************* By new ones if you're that concerned... they aren't very expensive. If you wash your trailer after you use it, and maintain it, you'll have far fewer problems than Froggy seems to have. Maintenance to him seems to be "ignore it until it breaks." While I realize this is one of your signature attack posts, there is a problem with your "advice". People who use their boats often - a concept that is foreign to you - don't always have the luxury of rinsing their trailers until they arrive back at the dock or their home. That leaves a trailer in the sun for hours with sal****er on it after the launch. You don't think Harry carried a generator, high pressure pump, and a fifty gallon drum of fresh water in his 4Runner when he launched the 'Yo Ho'? You just don't give people enough credit. D'oh. The marina at BP has lots of fresh water outlets and hoses. After I launched the boat and while it was tied to one of the finger piers, I simply towed the trailer 50 feet to the nearest hose and rinsed off the wheels and brakes. After using the boat and retrailering it, I washed down the whole trailer. I'm not the one whose trailer was rusting away. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Mar 25, 7:55 pm, L wrote: Lil Abner wrote: On 3/25/2011 7:52 AM, OmDeFlume wrote: On 3/24/2011 11:25 PM, Lil Abner wrote: On 3/24/2011 8:57 PM, Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? What about sacraficial anodes? They come in many sizes and shapes. Of course you will still have to replace the rusted hdw now. I don't know that it would work but seems like it should. Zincs need to be submerged in water to become an anode. I'm not sure of the science behind it. If moisture, in the air, and natural electricity was making it to ground it would rust or a sacrificial anode could take it's place? You would think rubber tires would insulate it sufficiently but perhaps the jack stand is the route? If none of this makes sense oh well. None of that applies if the trailer is out of the water. I am really sorta surprised at how much corrosion there is on the bolts and the springs and much less on the body. I do rinse it after every use so am not sure why the extreme corrosion. I think the original bolts were just zinc coated and not really galvanized whereas the body may have more zinc on it. I will probably replace the original bolts with hot dipped galvanized so as to minimize dissimilar metals in contact. Galvanized means they have a zinc coating. There are several types of galvanization - electro-galvanized is a thin zinc coating. Hot dipped is much thicker. One solution to your problem is to carry a pump sprayer filled with clean water to hit the problem areas after you launch if a hose isn't available. By the time you rinse it after you retrieve the boat, the damage has already started. |
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John H wrote:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:53:27 -0400, L wrote: Harryk wrote: True North wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Mar 24, 10:18 pm, wrote: On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:57:34 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: Got my fully tinned wire for my trailer and put it on so now I have trailer lights again. However while doing it, I found that all of the bolts and nuts on the trailer are so badly corroded they will not last another season. I probably need about $100 of stainless hardware to replace them. I thought EZ Loader was quality but it isn't. What would a bit of stainless or hot dipped galv bolts have cost them? Go to a real fastener place and you might save a few bucks but stainless is the way to go on a salt water trailer. I started out a couple bolts at a time as they got nasty but I bit that bullet too after a few rounds of swapping out rusted bolts. The leaf springs are also rusting badly, not sure what to do about them. ******************* By new ones if you're that concerned... they aren't very expensive. If you wash your trailer after you use it, and maintain it, you'll have far fewer problems than Froggy seems to have. Maintenance to him seems to be "ignore it until it breaks." While I realize this is one of your signature attack posts, there is a problem with your "advice". People who use their boats often - a concept that is foreign to you - don't always have the luxury of rinsing their trailers until they arrive back at the dock or their home. That leaves a trailer in the sun for hours with sal****er on it after the launch. You don't think Harry carried a generator, high pressure pump, and a fifty gallon drum of fresh water in his 4Runner when he launched the 'Yo Ho'? You just don't give people enough credit. He launched them both maybe a half dozen times each, right? That is different than a regular boater. BTW - a gas pressure washer and a drum of water would be cheaper than the outfit you suggested. |
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