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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... I_am_Tosk wrote: That's what I tried to tell Harry, but he just called me names;) There is no subject on which I will consider or otherwise value your opinion, little turd. Hell, man, I know more about unskilled labor jobs in a warehouse than you do; I wasn't fired from the two warehouse jobs I had as a teen-ager. Do you expect anyone here except Donnie to value your views or your opinions. You have been proved to be a liar time and again. Your credibility here is zero. |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... I'm sorry, but you haven't offered an explanation of how those "billions" allegedly got into the pockets of the unions and politicians. Certainly not from dues payments from union members. Are you insinuating there were payoffs? Got evidence that these alleged payoffs, if any, amounted to billions? If union dues were $100 a man/woman a month, 1000 workers would pay $1.2 million a year in dues. 10,000 workers would pay $12 million a year. 10 years of that would be $120 million. And those dues dollars are accounted for, to the penny. Next? Look beyond the dues Harry. Graft and corruption are not limited to union dues. |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... Please explain, Mr. Dumber than Dog****, how the big dig project put "billions" in the pockets of labor unions and politicians. Be specific. If I wanted to answer the questions of a mindless 4 year old, I would call you on the phone. Do your own homework.. In other words, you made a bull**** claim. Again. You are either stupid or blind. |
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On 3/12/11 8:52 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleAZudnfBksIiQfOfQnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews. com, says... Landing fees don't tell the whole story. It is *considerably* cheaper to fly to Tampa rather than Orlando and hotels in Tampa are about half the price of Orlando. Yeah, but who the hell wants to fly to Tampa? There is nothing there. Busch Gardens and prostitutes! At least Tampa will have Harry as a customer. Why? Are the females in your family setting up shop there, to service the latest generation of marines? |
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On 3/12/11 8:55 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlePb6dnRNPX9fBCOfQnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... I'm sorry, but you haven't offered an explanation of how those "billions" allegedly got into the pockets of the unions and politicians. Certainly not from dues payments from union members. Are you insinuating there were payoffs? Got evidence that these alleged payoffs, if any, amounted to billions? If union dues were $100 a man/woman a month, 1000 workers would pay $1.2 million a year in dues. 10,000 workers would pay $12 million a year. 10 years of that would be $120 million. And those dues dollars are accounted for, to the penny. Next? Look beyond the dues Harry. Graft and corruption are not limited to union dues. Got proof "billions" of bucks in graft and corruption payoffs got into the hands of union officials? I didn't think so. Just more of Snotty's horse****. |
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On 3/12/11 9:53 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articlebtKdnYR1RM2yGubQnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 3/12/11 8:55 AM, BAR wrote: In articlePb6dnRNPX9fBCOfQnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... I'm sorry, but you haven't offered an explanation of how those "billions" allegedly got into the pockets of the unions and politicians. Certainly not from dues payments from union members. Are you insinuating there were payoffs? Got evidence that these alleged payoffs, if any, amounted to billions? If union dues were $100 a man/woman a month, 1000 workers would pay $1.2 million a year in dues. 10,000 workers would pay $12 million a year. 10 years of that would be $120 million. And those dues dollars are accounted for, to the penny. Next? Look beyond the dues Harry. Graft and corruption are not limited to union dues. Got proof "billions" of bucks in graft and corruption payoffs got into the hands of union officials? I didn't think so. Just more of Snotty's horse****. Awwww, did I say Billions instead of Millions? Poor fat lying little pedophile, I guess I was looking ahead to Obamas high speed rail buyoff plans... You cannot show any proof there was "millions" in corrupt payoffs to unions in the big dig. Most of the corruption I read about involved corporations. This claim of yours is just your usual non-fact-based bull****, little turd man. |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... On 3/12/11 9:53 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In articlebtKdnYR1RM2yGubQnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 3/12/11 8:55 AM, BAR wrote: In articlePb6dnRNPX9fBCOfQnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... I'm sorry, but you haven't offered an explanation of how those "billions" allegedly got into the pockets of the unions and politicians. Certainly not from dues payments from union members. Are you insinuating there were payoffs? Got evidence that these alleged payoffs, if any, amounted to billions? If union dues were $100 a man/woman a month, 1000 workers would pay $1.2 million a year in dues. 10,000 workers would pay $12 million a year. 10 years of that would be $120 million. And those dues dollars are accounted for, to the penny. Next? Look beyond the dues Harry. Graft and corruption are not limited to union dues. Got proof "billions" of bucks in graft and corruption payoffs got into the hands of union officials? I didn't think so. Just more of Snotty's horse****. Awwww, did I say Billions instead of Millions? Poor fat lying little pedophile, I guess I was looking ahead to Obamas high speed rail buyoff plans... You cannot show any proof there was "millions" in corrupt payoffs to unions in the big dig. Most of the corruption I read about involved corporations. This claim of yours is just your usual non-fact-based bull****, little turd man. Do your homework asshole.. I am not going to argue Unions with you, that's like buying politicians and then going to them for collective bargaining. You are living off the sweat of others who worked all their lives, then you steal their retirement too.. Loser...creeper.. go away.. |
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On 3/12/11 10:05 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 3/12/11 9:53 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In articlebtKdnYR1RM2yGubQnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 3/12/11 8:55 AM, BAR wrote: In articlePb6dnRNPX9fBCOfQnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... I'm sorry, but you haven't offered an explanation of how those "billions" allegedly got into the pockets of the unions and politicians. Certainly not from dues payments from union members. Are you insinuating there were payoffs? Got evidence that these alleged payoffs, if any, amounted to billions? If union dues were $100 a man/woman a month, 1000 workers would pay $1.2 million a year in dues. 10,000 workers would pay $12 million a year. 10 years of that would be $120 million. And those dues dollars are accounted for, to the penny. Next? Look beyond the dues Harry. Graft and corruption are not limited to union dues. Got proof "billions" of bucks in graft and corruption payoffs got into the hands of union officials? I didn't think so. Just more of Snotty's horse****. Awwww, did I say Billions instead of Millions? Poor fat lying little pedophile, I guess I was looking ahead to Obamas high speed rail buyoff plans... You cannot show any proof there was "millions" in corrupt payoffs to unions in the big dig. Most of the corruption I read about involved corporations. This claim of yours is just your usual non-fact-based bull****, little turd man. Do your homework asshole.. I am not going to argue Unions with you, that's like buying politicians and then going to them for collective bargaining. You are living off the sweat of others who worked all their lives, then you steal their retirement too.. Loser...creeper.. go away.. As I've stated, you're just tossing more of your bull**** in here. You have no proof that billions or millions of dollars in payoffs went to unions whose members worked the big dig. Your pattern is to make up outrageous crap about people or organizations you don't like, repeat it, and hope it gets to be believed. You are an insignificant turd, Ingersoll. You should have been forced to get a vasectomy as soon as you reached puberty. |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... On 3/12/11 10:05 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 3/12/11 9:53 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In articlebtKdnYR1RM2yGubQnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 3/12/11 8:55 AM, BAR wrote: In articlePb6dnRNPX9fBCOfQnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... I'm sorry, but you haven't offered an explanation of how those "billions" allegedly got into the pockets of the unions and politicians. Certainly not from dues payments from union members. Are you insinuating there were payoffs? Got evidence that these alleged payoffs, if any, amounted to billions? If union dues were $100 a man/woman a month, 1000 workers would pay $1.2 million a year in dues. 10,000 workers would pay $12 million a year. 10 years of that would be $120 million. And those dues dollars are accounted for, to the penny. Next? Look beyond the dues Harry. Graft and corruption are not limited to union dues. Got proof "billions" of bucks in graft and corruption payoffs got into the hands of union officials? I didn't think so. Just more of Snotty's horse****. Awwww, did I say Billions instead of Millions? Poor fat lying little pedophile, I guess I was looking ahead to Obamas high speed rail buyoff plans... You cannot show any proof there was "millions" in corrupt payoffs to unions in the big dig. Most of the corruption I read about involved corporations. This claim of yours is just your usual non-fact-based bull****, little turd man. Do your homework asshole.. I am not going to argue Unions with you, that's like buying politicians and then going to them for collective bargaining. You are living off the sweat of others who worked all their lives, then you steal their retirement too.. Loser...creeper.. go away.. As I've stated, you're just tossing more of your bull**** in here. You have no proof that billions or millions of dollars in payoffs went to unions whose members worked the big dig. Your pattern is to make up outrageous crap about people or organizations you don't like, repeat it, and hope it gets to be believed. You are an insignificant turd, Ingersoll. You should have been forced to get a vasectomy as soon as you reached puberty. You are useless, plonk Leave me out of your creeper fantasy.. |
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On 3/12/11 10:20 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In articleV9OdncgXH6slEObQnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 3/12/11 10:05 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 3/12/11 9:53 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In articlebtKdnYR1RM2yGubQnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 3/12/11 8:55 AM, BAR wrote: In articlePb6dnRNPX9fBCOfQnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... I'm sorry, but you haven't offered an explanation of how those "billions" allegedly got into the pockets of the unions and politicians. Certainly not from dues payments from union members. Are you insinuating there were payoffs? Got evidence that these alleged payoffs, if any, amounted to billions? If union dues were $100 a man/woman a month, 1000 workers would pay $1.2 million a year in dues. 10,000 workers would pay $12 million a year. 10 years of that would be $120 million. And those dues dollars are accounted for, to the penny. Next? Look beyond the dues Harry. Graft and corruption are not limited to union dues. Got proof "billions" of bucks in graft and corruption payoffs got into the hands of union officials? I didn't think so. Just more of Snotty's horse****. Awwww, did I say Billions instead of Millions? Poor fat lying little pedophile, I guess I was looking ahead to Obamas high speed rail buyoff plans... You cannot show any proof there was "millions" in corrupt payoffs to unions in the big dig. Most of the corruption I read about involved corporations. This claim of yours is just your usual non-fact-based bull****, little turd man. Do your homework asshole.. I am not going to argue Unions with you, that's like buying politicians and then going to them for collective bargaining. You are living off the sweat of others who worked all their lives, then you steal their retirement too.. Loser...creeper.. go away.. As I've stated, you're just tossing more of your bull**** in here. You have no proof that billions or millions of dollars in payoffs went to unions whose members worked the big dig. Your pattern is to make up outrageous crap about people or organizations you don't like, repeat it, and hope it gets to be believed. You are an insignificant turd, Ingersoll. You should have been forced to get a vasectomy as soon as you reached puberty. You are useless,plonk Leave me out of your creeper fantasy.. Not to worry, Snotty. I'm going to continue to call you out on every political post of yours that is eyebrow deep in your made-up bull****. |
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On 3/12/2011 10:24 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 3/12/11 10:20 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In articleV9OdncgXH6slEObQnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 3/12/11 10:05 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 3/12/11 9:53 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In articlebtKdnYR1RM2yGubQnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 3/12/11 8:55 AM, BAR wrote: In articlePb6dnRNPX9fBCOfQnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... I'm sorry, but you haven't offered an explanation of how those "billions" allegedly got into the pockets of the unions and politicians. Certainly not from dues payments from union members. Are you insinuating there were payoffs? Got evidence that these alleged payoffs, if any, amounted to billions? If union dues were $100 a man/woman a month, 1000 workers would pay $1.2 million a year in dues. 10,000 workers would pay $12 million a year. 10 years of that would be $120 million. And those dues dollars are accounted for, to the penny. Next? Look beyond the dues Harry. Graft and corruption are not limited to union dues. Got proof "billions" of bucks in graft and corruption payoffs got into the hands of union officials? I didn't think so. Just more of Snotty's horse****. Awwww, did I say Billions instead of Millions? Poor fat lying little pedophile, I guess I was looking ahead to Obamas high speed rail buyoff plans... You cannot show any proof there was "millions" in corrupt payoffs to unions in the big dig. Most of the corruption I read about involved corporations. This claim of yours is just your usual non-fact-based bull****, little turd man. Do your homework asshole.. I am not going to argue Unions with you, that's like buying politicians and then going to them for collective bargaining. You are living off the sweat of others who worked all their lives, then you steal their retirement too.. Loser...creeper.. go away.. As I've stated, you're just tossing more of your bull**** in here. You have no proof that billions or millions of dollars in payoffs went to unions whose members worked the big dig. Your pattern is to make up outrageous crap about people or organizations you don't like, repeat it, and hope it gets to be believed. You are an insignificant turd, Ingersoll. You should have been forced to get a vasectomy as soon as you reached puberty. You are useless,plonk Leave me out of your creeper fantasy.. Not to worry, Snotty. I'm going to continue to call you out on every political post of yours that is eyebrow deep in your made-up bull****. #### ## ## #### ###### ## ## ### ## ## ## ## ### #### ## ## ## ## ### ## #### ## ##### ### ## ### ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #### ## ## #### #### ###### #### ###### #### ## ## ## ## ## # ## # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ##### ## ## ## ###### ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###### #### #### #### ## ## |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... On 3/12/11 8:52 AM, BAR wrote: In articleAZudnfBksIiQfOfQnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews. com, says... Landing fees don't tell the whole story. It is *considerably* cheaper to fly to Tampa rather than Orlando and hotels in Tampa are about half the price of Orlando. Yeah, but who the hell wants to fly to Tampa? There is nothing there. Busch Gardens and prostitutes! At least Tampa will have Harry as a customer. Why? Are the females in your family setting up shop there, to service the latest generation of marines? You wish. |
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On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. |
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On 3/13/2011 3:55 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. Hope you got proof before you go flapping those gums. |
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:55:44 -0700, wrote:
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. The pork barrel is no stranger to either side of the aisle. Just as an FYI, I do no consider myself to be a Republican or a Democrat. They have both become way too polarized and polarizing for my taste. We need someone who can pull the country back together and I don't see much of that on the horizon. So how are you and Wilbur getting on? |
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says... On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah... Righties, righties, righties.. But you don't have an idea of your own... |
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On 3/13/2011 4:50 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says... On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah... Righties, righties, righties.. But you don't have an idea of your own... She took a colon cleanse and that's what came out. |
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On 3/13/2011 2:04 PM, BAR wrote:
In articleV5SdnacwvZJS5ubQnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 3/12/11 8:52 AM, BAR wrote: In articleAZudnfBksIiQfOfQnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews. com, says... Landing fees don't tell the whole story. It is *considerably* cheaper to fly to Tampa rather than Orlando and hotels in Tampa are about half the price of Orlando. Yeah, but who the hell wants to fly to Tampa? There is nothing there. Busch Gardens and prostitutes! At least Tampa will have Harry as a customer. Why? Are the females in your family setting up shop there, to service the latest generation of marines? You wish. Ahh. You've seen what he's saddled with. No wonder he's checking out the new mares. |
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:46:09 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:55:44 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. The pork barrel is no stranger to either side of the aisle. Just as an FYI, I do no consider myself to be a Republican or a Democrat. They have both become way too polarized and polarizing for my taste. We need someone who can pull the country back together and I don't see much of that on the horizon. So how are you and Wilbur getting on? FYI, you're the one who claimed that there are "worthwhile" projects. All of them have been opposed by Republicans as I said. Who the heck is Wilbur? |
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:03:25 -0400, Ernie wrote:
On 3/13/2011 4:50 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah... Righties, righties, righties.. But you don't have an idea of your own... She took a colon cleanse and that's what came out. Looks like you have a lot of experience with what comes out. |
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On 3/13/2011 6:06 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:03:25 -0400, wrote: On 3/13/2011 4:50 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah... Righties, righties, righties.. But you don't have an idea of your own... She took a colon cleanse and that's what came out. Looks like you have a lot of experience with what comes out. GFY |
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:24:40 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:57:12 -0500, Gene wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:44:10 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:17:00 -0500, Harryk wrote: I hate to say it because I do love the state, but Florida seems to elect one idiot after another for governor. "Three weeks after Gov. Rick Scott put the brakes on high-speed rail, the Florida Department of Transportation on Wednesday released a study showing the line connecting Tampa to Orlando would have had a $10.2 million operating surplus in 2015, its first year of operation. The study showed the line would have had a $28.6 million surplus in its 10th year." I'd guess Governor Scott nixed the project because he couldn't figure out a way to personally benefit from it. That was based on the wild assertion that 3 million people would ride on it. That is what the Acela gets, with 50 times the number of people within 50 miles of the stations. 3 million was a low-ball..... Acela doesn't serve Mickey World.... http://www2.tbo.com/content/2011/mar...-made-more-mo/ That is a bogus number. Are you really saying the meager populations of Tampa and Orlando would match the ridership of a train between Washington DC, Philadelphia, New York metro and Boston? Who would fly to Tampa to take a train to Orlando when Orlando has a nicer airport with lower landing fees (cheaper tickets) That is particularly true when you figure out it only takes about an hour to an hour and a half to drive it. You are not going to be able to do much in either town without a car anyway. If these cities want a commuter rail line, let them build it but don't confuse that with a cross state train line that will run empty most of the time. If half the population of Tampa, Clearwater, and St. Petersburg went to Disney World every day, they would easily meet that 3 million number. I can't understand why anyone would doubt that. I lived in Tampa for two years, with relatives in Cocoa. It's about a two hour drive to Cocoa, and an hour and a half or so to Orlando. It would probably take a lot more time to drive to the train station, park, wait for the train, get seated, take off, get there, get transportation, and arrive at a destination - like Disney World. Of course, Disney would have a bus at the train station to pick up the 3 million arrivals daily. |
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On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:57:12 -0500, L G wrote:
I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 15:24:40 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:57:12 -0500, Gene wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:44:10 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:17:00 -0500, wrote: I hate to say it because I do love the state, but Florida seems to elect one idiot after another for governor. "Three weeks after Gov. Rick Scott put the brakes on high-speed rail, the Florida Department of Transportation on Wednesday released a study showing the line connecting Tampa to Orlando would have had a $10.2 million operating surplus in 2015, its first year of operation. The study showed the line would have had a $28.6 million surplus in its 10th year." I'd guess Governor Scott nixed the project because he couldn't figure out a way to personally benefit from it. That was based on the wild assertion that 3 million people would ride on it. That is what the Acela gets, with 50 times the number of people within 50 miles of the stations. 3 million was a low-ball..... Acela doesn't serve Mickey World.... http://www2.tbo.com/content/2011/mar...-made-more-mo/ That is a bogus number. Are you really saying the meager populations of Tampa and Orlando would match the ridership of a train between Washington DC, Philadelphia, New York metro and Boston? Who would fly to Tampa to take a train to Orlando when Orlando has a nicer airport with lower landing fees (cheaper tickets) That is particularly true when you figure out it only takes about an hour to an hour and a half to drive it. You are not going to be able to do much in either town without a car anyway. If these cities want a commuter rail line, let them build it but don't confuse that with a cross state train line that will run empty most of the time. Landing fees don't tell the whole story. It is *considerably* cheaper to fly to Tampa rather than Orlando and hotels in Tampa are about half the price of Orlando. Yeah, but who the hell wants to fly to Tampa? There is nothing there. Busch Gardens and prostitutes! And my alma mater, don't forget. |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 18:21:14 -0400, Ernie wrote:
On 3/13/2011 6:06 PM, wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:03:25 -0400, wrote: On 3/13/2011 4:50 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah... Righties, righties, righties.. But you don't have an idea of your own... She took a colon cleanse and that's what came out. Looks like you have a lot of experience with what comes out. GFY Poor baby... you can dish it but you can't take it. Typical little boy. |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On Mar 13, 7:32*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 18:21:14 -0400, Ernie wrote: On 3/13/2011 6:06 PM, wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 17:03:25 -0400, *wrote: On 3/13/2011 4:50 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B * wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. * There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah... Righties, righties, righties.. But you don't have an idea of your own... She took a colon cleanse and that's what came out. Looks like you have a lot of experience with what comes out. GFY Poor baby... you can dish it but you can't take it. Typical little boy. And who is this "poor baby" who can dish it out but can't take it? On Mar 13, 7:32 pm, wrote: Poor baby... you can dish it but you can't take it. Typical little boy. From: Date: Dec 15 2010, 2:56 am Subject: Rare Native American canoe discovered in Cornwall To: rec.boats On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 19:12:16 -0800 (PST),TopBassDog You may wish to try civility in your due courses, D'Plume. It travels so much further in a debate than calling people liars with no founded precedence. Your insults are nothing new. You're a lowlife. Sorry I bothered. Oh, and go **** yourself... have a field day with that. |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:47:16 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:05:43 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:46:09 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:55:44 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. The pork barrel is no stranger to either side of the aisle. Just as an FYI, I do no consider myself to be a Republican or a Democrat. They have both become way too polarized and polarizing for my taste. We need someone who can pull the country back together and I don't see much of that on the horizon. So how are you and Wilbur getting on? FYI, you're the one who claimed that there are "worthwhile" projects. All of them have been opposed by Republicans as I said. Which projects were opposed? I think you are just making things up now. Next time do your own Google search instead of relying on Faux News. http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/09/...d-republicans/ http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aPeLiub0jnQE http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_468089.html http://www.wusf.usf.edu/news/2010/10..._ask_for_money And it goes on and on. |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On Mar 14, 2:11*am, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:47:16 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:05:43 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:46:09 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:55:44 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. * There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. The pork barrel is no stranger to either side of the aisle. *Just as an FYI, I do no consider myself to be a Republican or a Democrat. They have both become way too polarized and polarizing for my taste. We need someone who can pull the country back together and I don't see much of that on the horizon. So how are you and Wilbur getting on? FYI, you're the one who claimed that there are "worthwhile" projects. All of them have been opposed by Republicans as I said. Which projects were opposed? I think you are just making things up now. Next time do your own Google search instead of relying on Faux News. http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/09/..._criticize_sti... And it goes on and on.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Think Progress, Huffington Hoax? Pfffft. and you call Fox, Faux?? |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On 3/14/2011 2:11 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:47:16 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:05:43 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:46:09 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:55:44 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. The pork barrel is no stranger to either side of the aisle. Just as an FYI, I do no consider myself to be a Republican or a Democrat. They have both become way too polarized and polarizing for my taste. We need someone who can pull the country back together and I don't see much of that on the horizon. So how are you and Wilbur getting on? FYI, you're the one who claimed that there are "worthwhile" projects. All of them have been opposed by Republicans as I said. Which projects were opposed? I think you are just making things up now. Next time do your own Google search instead of relying on Faux News. http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/09/...d-republicans/ http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aPeLiub0jnQE http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_468089.html http://www.wusf.usf.edu/news/2010/10..._ask_for_money And it goes on and on. Fair and balanced reporting? What a moron you are. |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On 3/14/11 7:05 AM, Ernie wrote:
On 3/14/2011 2:11 AM, wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:47:16 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:05:43 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:46:09 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:55:44 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. The pork barrel is no stranger to either side of the aisle. Just as an FYI, I do no consider myself to be a Republican or a Democrat. They have both become way too polarized and polarizing for my taste. We need someone who can pull the country back together and I don't see much of that on the horizon. So how are you and Wilbur getting on? FYI, you're the one who claimed that there are "worthwhile" projects. All of them have been opposed by Republicans as I said. Which projects were opposed? I think you are just making things up now. Next time do your own Google search instead of relying on Faux News. http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/09/...d-republicans/ http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aPeLiub0jnQE http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_468089.html http://www.wusf.usf.edu/news/2010/10..._ask_for_money And it goes on and on. Fair and balanced reporting? What a moron you are. The old Soviet "Pravda" was more fair and balanced than Fox. Fox is the made-up news source of angry white men, teabaggers, racists, and the seriously mis-educated. It's a right-wing propaganda outlet, spoonfeeding its millions of discontented white viewers a steady diet of absolutely made-up bull****. Scott Ingersoll here is a perfect example of a Fox News viewer. His political and news posts are nothing more than regurgitated Fox News vomitus, and it is apparent he actually believes the b.s. he's being sold. |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
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It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:24:04 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 23:11:20 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:47:16 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:05:43 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:46:09 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:55:44 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. The pork barrel is no stranger to either side of the aisle. Just as an FYI, I do no consider myself to be a Republican or a Democrat. They have both become way too polarized and polarizing for my taste. We need someone who can pull the country back together and I don't see much of that on the horizon. So how are you and Wilbur getting on? FYI, you're the one who claimed that there are "worthwhile" projects. All of them have been opposed by Republicans as I said. Which projects were opposed? I think you are just making things up now. Next time do your own Google search instead of relying on Faux News. http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/09/...d-republicans/ http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aPeLiub0jnQE http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_468089.html http://www.wusf.usf.edu/news/2010/10..._ask_for_money And it goes on and on. We were talking about Florida Didn't even read them did you. Try again! http://www.wusf.usf.edu/news/2010/10..._ask_for_money |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 17:47:46 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 13:39:57 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:24:04 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 23:11:20 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 01:47:16 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:05:43 -0700, wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 16:46:09 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:55:44 -0700, wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:21:05 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:38:57 -0800, wrote: In good economic times, I would agree that projects should "stand on their own" financially and without gov't backing. But these are not good times, and it seems to me that most anything that creates or preserves jobs right now is better than continued unemployment and all the attendant consequences. Building unneeded/unwanted infrastructure with public funds is not good policy, good times or bad. There are plenty of worthwhile projects that need funding. All of which are opposed by Republicans, unless it's in their district. Then, they're opposed to it before they're for it. The pork barrel is no stranger to either side of the aisle. Just as an FYI, I do no consider myself to be a Republican or a Democrat. They have both become way too polarized and polarizing for my taste. We need someone who can pull the country back together and I don't see much of that on the horizon. So how are you and Wilbur getting on? FYI, you're the one who claimed that there are "worthwhile" projects. All of them have been opposed by Republicans as I said. Which projects were opposed? I think you are just making things up now. Next time do your own Google search instead of relying on Faux News. http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/09/...d-republicans/ http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aPeLiub0jnQE http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_468089.html http://www.wusf.usf.edu/news/2010/10..._ask_for_money And it goes on and on. We were talking about Florida Didn't even read them did you. Try again! http://www.wusf.usf.edu/news/2010/10..._ask_for_money When you front end load you list of Google hits with off topic articles I am not going to read them all. The last one said what I have been saying We like stimulus money that does things people want like road improvements. It was that train boondoggle we rejected. Didn't realize bloomberg was off topic. "Republicans Voting Against Stimulus Then Asked Obama for Money" Sorry if you're having comprehension problems. |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:28:49 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:01:08 -0700, wrote: Didn't realize bloomberg was off topic. "Republicans Voting Against Stimulus Then Asked Obama for Money" Sorry if you're having comprehension problems. This topic is about one train in Florida, you are the one who is trying to make it about something else you want to argue about. You are the one who apparently doesn't match the news. The Republicans have blocked just about every stim package they could find, then had their hands out for the money. Feel free to live in a reality-free zone. |
It's snerk time in Florida...again.
On Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:28:40 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:40:38 -0700, wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 21:28:49 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2011 18:01:08 -0700, wrote: Didn't realize bloomberg was off topic. "Republicans Voting Against Stimulus Then Asked Obama for Money" Sorry if you're having comprehension problems. This topic is about one train in Florida, you are the one who is trying to make it about something else you want to argue about. You are the one who apparently doesn't match the news. The Republicans have blocked just about every stim package they could find, then had their hands out for the money. Feel free to live in a reality-free zone. Having absolutely nothing to do with this conversation. We are talking about one particular boondoggle not some generalized hatred for the GOP that you harbor and want to argue about. Even if I did want to comment on your links I would point out this is not a case of a GOP legislator fighting "stim" legislation and then taking the money. Scott does not want the money so your links are off topic or you do not understand what you are posting. I have no hatred for the GOP, but you seem to have some for anything liberal. As I said, all (or nearly all) Republicans voted against the stim, and most of them then put their hand out to want some of it after it passed. Scott is a, apparently, a criminal. Feel free to defend him. |
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