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I think the U.S. Navy acted appropriately in the tragic incident
that resulted in the deaths of Dr. Bob Riggle, Phyllis Macay and Jean and Scott Adam at the hands of Somali pirates. Caution has to be Job One so long as there is a chance at least some hostages might be freed. The Navy was watching and it was cautious. From what I have read, we don't know what event(s) precipitated the shooting of the hostages by the pirates. Whatever penalties they were facing surely weren't as severe as what happened after they murdered their hostages. The areas in which these pirates operate is enormous. Obviously, more countries need to participate in patrol and interdiction. |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... I think the U.S. Navy acted appropriately in the tragic incident that resulted in the deaths of Dr. Bob Riggle, Phyllis Macay and Jean and Scott Adam at the hands of Somali pirates. Caution has to be Job One so long as there is a chance at least some hostages might be freed. The Navy was watching and it was cautious. From what I have read, we don't know what event(s) precipitated the shooting of the hostages by the pirates. Whatever penalties they were facing surely weren't as severe as what happened after they murdered their hostages. The areas in which these pirates operate is enormous. Obviously, more countries need to participate in patrol and interdiction. Obviously you haven't got a clue. http://en.rian.ru/world/20090402/120870418.html |
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On 2/26/11 9:35 AM, BAR wrote:
In , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... I think the U.S. Navy acted appropriately in the tragic incident that resulted in the deaths of Dr. Bob Riggle, Phyllis Macay and Jean and Scott Adam at the hands of Somali pirates. Caution has to be Job One so long as there is a chance at least some hostages might be freed. The Navy was watching and it was cautious. From what I have read, we don't know what event(s) precipitated the shooting of the hostages by the pirates. Whatever penalties they were facing surely weren't as severe as what happened after they murdered their hostages. The areas in which these pirates operate is enormous. Obviously, more countries need to participate in patrol and interdiction. Obviously you haven't got a clue. http://en.rian.ru/world/20090402/120870418.html Actually, Bert-Birther, I do have a clue. I'm aware of the participation of a number of nations in the anti-pirate patrol, but, it isn't enough. |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... On 2/26/11 9:35 AM, BAR wrote: In , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... I think the U.S. Navy acted appropriately in the tragic incident that resulted in the deaths of Dr. Bob Riggle, Phyllis Macay and Jean and Scott Adam at the hands of Somali pirates. Caution has to be Job One so long as there is a chance at least some hostages might be freed. The Navy was watching and it was cautious. From what I have read, we don't know what event(s) precipitated the shooting of the hostages by the pirates. Whatever penalties they were facing surely weren't as severe as what happened after they murdered their hostages. The areas in which these pirates operate is enormous. Obviously, more countries need to participate in patrol and interdiction. Obviously you haven't got a clue. http://en.rian.ru/world/20090402/120870418.html Actually, Bert-Birther, I do have a clue. I'm aware of the participation of a number of nations in the anti-pirate patrol, but, it isn't enough. What is enough? Be specific. Propose a solution. |
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On 2/26/11 9:50 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleVeqdndIlaObIjPTQnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 2/26/11 9:35 AM, BAR wrote: In , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... I think the U.S. Navy acted appropriately in the tragic incident that resulted in the deaths of Dr. Bob Riggle, Phyllis Macay and Jean and Scott Adam at the hands of Somali pirates. Caution has to be Job One so long as there is a chance at least some hostages might be freed. The Navy was watching and it was cautious. From what I have read, we don't know what event(s) precipitated the shooting of the hostages by the pirates. Whatever penalties they were facing surely weren't as severe as what happened after they murdered their hostages. The areas in which these pirates operate is enormous. Obviously, more countries need to participate in patrol and interdiction. Obviously you haven't got a clue. http://en.rian.ru/world/20090402/120870418.html Actually, Bert-Birther, I do have a clue. I'm aware of the participation of a number of nations in the anti-pirate patrol, but, it isn't enough. What is enough? Be specific. Propose a solution. One solution is to put all you mustered out military rah-rah types in a dory with oars and shotguns and send you out on anti-pirate patrol. That might not take care of the pirate problem, but it would give you boys something useful to do...and with guns, too. |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... On 2/26/11 9:50 AM, BAR wrote: In articleVeqdndIlaObIjPTQnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 2/26/11 9:35 AM, BAR wrote: In , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... I think the U.S. Navy acted appropriately in the tragic incident that resulted in the deaths of Dr. Bob Riggle, Phyllis Macay and Jean and Scott Adam at the hands of Somali pirates. Caution has to be Job One so long as there is a chance at least some hostages might be freed. The Navy was watching and it was cautious. From what I have read, we don't know what event(s) precipitated the shooting of the hostages by the pirates. Whatever penalties they were facing surely weren't as severe as what happened after they murdered their hostages. The areas in which these pirates operate is enormous. Obviously, more countries need to participate in patrol and interdiction. Obviously you haven't got a clue. http://en.rian.ru/world/20090402/120870418.html Actually, Bert-Birther, I do have a clue. I'm aware of the participation of a number of nations in the anti-pirate patrol, but, it isn't enough. What is enough? Be specific. Propose a solution. One solution is to put all you mustered out military rah-rah types in a dory with oars and shotguns and send you out on anti-pirate patrol. That might not take care of the pirate problem, but it would give you boys something useful to do...and with guns, too. Still with the personal insults and never a constructive solution. You must make the left proud to call you a associate. |
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On 2/26/11 10:38 AM, BAR wrote:
In , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 2/26/11 9:50 AM, BAR wrote: In articleVeqdndIlaObIjPTQnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 2/26/11 9:35 AM, BAR wrote: In , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... I think the U.S. Navy acted appropriately in the tragic incident that resulted in the deaths of Dr. Bob Riggle, Phyllis Macay and Jean and Scott Adam at the hands of Somali pirates. Caution has to be Job One so long as there is a chance at least some hostages might be freed. The Navy was watching and it was cautious. From what I have read, we don't know what event(s) precipitated the shooting of the hostages by the pirates. Whatever penalties they were facing surely weren't as severe as what happened after they murdered their hostages. The areas in which these pirates operate is enormous. Obviously, more countries need to participate in patrol and interdiction. Obviously you haven't got a clue. http://en.rian.ru/world/20090402/120870418.html Actually, Bert-Birther, I do have a clue. I'm aware of the participation of a number of nations in the anti-pirate patrol, but, it isn't enough. What is enough? Be specific. Propose a solution. One solution is to put all you mustered out military rah-rah types in a dory with oars and shotguns and send you out on anti-pirate patrol. That might not take care of the pirate problem, but it would give you boys something useful to do...and with guns, too. Still with the personal insults and never a constructive solution. You must make the left proud to call you a associate. It was sarcasm, bertie-birther. I don't have the answer. Neither do the governments of those fighting the pirates. Neither do you, or anyone else in rec.boats. I was just posting a way to keep you war-mongering assholes busy. |
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One solution is to put all you mustered out military rah-rah types in a dory with oars and shotguns and send you out on anti-pirate patrol. That might not take care of the pirate problem, but it would give you boys something useful to do...and with guns, too. Still with the personal insults and never a constructive solution. You must make the left proud to call you a associate. Things could be worse for the good guys. Pray he doesn't switch sides. |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... One solution is to put all you mustered out military rah-rah types in a dory with oars and shotguns and send you out on anti-pirate patrol. That might not take care of the pirate problem, but it would give you boys something useful to do...and with guns, too. Still with the personal insults and never a constructive solution. You must make the left proud to call you a associate. It was sarcasm, bertie-birther. I don't have the answer. Neither do the governments of those fighting the pirates. Neither do you, or anyone else in rec.boats. I was just posting a way to keep you war-mongering assholes busy. Nobody ever solved a problem without an idea and you have never had an idea. So, we are not surprised that you don't have the answer. |
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On 2/26/11 7:06 PM, BAR wrote:
In articleC7qdnVJQT6wgvvTQnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... One solution is to put all you mustered out military rah-rah types in a dory with oars and shotguns and send you out on anti-pirate patrol. That might not take care of the pirate problem, but it would give you boys something useful to do...and with guns, too. Still with the personal insults and never a constructive solution. You must make the left proud to call you a associate. It was sarcasm, bertie-birther. I don't have the answer. Neither do the governments of those fighting the pirates. Neither do you, or anyone else in rec.boats. I was just posting a way to keep you war-mongering assholes busy. Nobody ever solved a problem without an idea and you have never had an idea. So, we are not surprised that you don't have the answer. Well, bertie-birther, as soon as you have a reasonable idea on how to end piracy, I'm sure we'll hear about it. |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... On 2/26/11 7:06 PM, BAR wrote: In articleC7qdnVJQT6wgvvTQnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... One solution is to put all you mustered out military rah-rah types in a dory with oars and shotguns and send you out on anti-pirate patrol. That might not take care of the pirate problem, but it would give you boys something useful to do...and with guns, too. Still with the personal insults and never a constructive solution. You must make the left proud to call you a associate. It was sarcasm, bertie-birther. I don't have the answer. Neither do the governments of those fighting the pirates. Neither do you, or anyone else in rec.boats. I was just posting a way to keep you war-mongering assholes busy. Nobody ever solved a problem without an idea and you have never had an idea. So, we are not surprised that you don't have the answer. Well, bertie-birther, as soon as you have a reasonable idea on how to end piracy, I'm sure we'll hear about it. Why don't you put forth an idea or are you just waiting to **** on everyone else's ideas? |
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On 2/26/11 7:52 PM, BAR wrote:
In article18KdnZII4ceDPfTQnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 2/26/11 7:06 PM, BAR wrote: In articleC7qdnVJQT6wgvvTQnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... One solution is to put all you mustered out military rah-rah types in a dory with oars and shotguns and send you out on anti-pirate patrol. That might not take care of the pirate problem, but it would give you boys something useful to do...and with guns, too. Still with the personal insults and never a constructive solution. You must make the left proud to call you a associate. It was sarcasm, bertie-birther. I don't have the answer. Neither do the governments of those fighting the pirates. Neither do you, or anyone else in rec.boats. I was just posting a way to keep you war-mongering assholes busy. Nobody ever solved a problem without an idea and you have never had an idea. So, we are not surprised that you don't have the answer. Well, bertie-birther, as soon as you have a reasonable idea on how to end piracy, I'm sure we'll hear about it. Why don't you put forth an idea or are you just waiting to **** on everyone else's ideas? The pirate problem will either be solved by governments or not. It won't be solved by former marines who never had overseas postings or by old English majors like me. |
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In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says... On 2/26/11 7:52 PM, BAR wrote: In article18KdnZII4ceDPfTQnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 2/26/11 7:06 PM, BAR wrote: In articleC7qdnVJQT6wgvvTQnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... One solution is to put all you mustered out military rah-rah types in a dory with oars and shotguns and send you out on anti-pirate patrol. That might not take care of the pirate problem, but it would give you boys something useful to do...and with guns, too. Still with the personal insults and never a constructive solution. You must make the left proud to call you a associate. It was sarcasm, bertie-birther. I don't have the answer. Neither do the governments of those fighting the pirates. Neither do you, or anyone else in rec.boats. I was just posting a way to keep you war-mongering assholes busy. Nobody ever solved a problem without an idea and you have never had an idea. So, we are not surprised that you don't have the answer. Well, bertie-birther, as soon as you have a reasonable idea on how to end piracy, I'm sure we'll hear about it. Why don't you put forth an idea or are you just waiting to **** on everyone else's ideas? The pirate problem will either be solved by governments or not. It won't be solved by former marines who never had overseas postings or by old English majors like me. That is where you are wrong and where the root of your problem is. You are a classist. With a world view like yours the wheel never would have been invented because the buy didn't have a Masters or Doctorate in engineering therefore, according to you, he didn't have the ability to engineer the wheel. |
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"HenryK" wrote in message
... One solution is to put all you mustered out military rah-rah types in a dory with oars and shotguns and send you out on anti-pirate patrol. That might not take care of the pirate problem, but it would give you boys something useful to do...and with guns, too. Still with the personal insults and never a constructive solution. You must make the left proud to call you a associate. Things could be worse for the good guys. Pray he doesn't switch sides. Heaven forbid he comes over to our side. |
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"BAR" wrote in message
. .. In article , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 2/26/11 7:52 PM, BAR wrote: In article18KdnZII4ceDPfTQnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 2/26/11 7:06 PM, BAR wrote: In articleC7qdnVJQT6wgvvTQnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... One solution is to put all you mustered out military rah-rah types in a dory with oars and shotguns and send you out on anti-pirate patrol. That might not take care of the pirate problem, but it would give you boys something useful to do...and with guns, too. Still with the personal insults and never a constructive solution. You must make the left proud to call you a associate. It was sarcasm, bertie-birther. I don't have the answer. Neither do the governments of those fighting the pirates. Neither do you, or anyone else in rec.boats. I was just posting a way to keep you war-mongering assholes busy. Nobody ever solved a problem without an idea and you have never had an idea. So, we are not surprised that you don't have the answer. Well, bertie-birther, as soon as you have a reasonable idea on how to end piracy, I'm sure we'll hear about it. Why don't you put forth an idea or are you just waiting to **** on everyone else's ideas? The pirate problem will either be solved by governments or not. It won't be solved by former marines who never had overseas postings or by old English majors like me. That is where you are wrong and where the root of your problem is. You are a classist. With a world view like yours the wheel never would have been invented because the buy didn't have a Masters or Doctorate in engineering therefore, according to you, he didn't have the ability to engineer the wheel. All we need to do is convince the taliban that the Somalis are infidels. Any great thinker or writer like Krause should be able to pull that off. |
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On 2/27/11 7:42 AM, BAR wrote:
In article18KdnYwI4cdbPfTQnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 2/26/11 7:52 PM, BAR wrote: In article18KdnZII4ceDPfTQnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 2/26/11 7:06 PM, BAR wrote: In articleC7qdnVJQT6wgvvTQnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... One solution is to put all you mustered out military rah-rah types in a dory with oars and shotguns and send you out on anti-pirate patrol. That might not take care of the pirate problem, but it would give you boys something useful to do...and with guns, too. Still with the personal insults and never a constructive solution. You must make the left proud to call you a associate. It was sarcasm, bertie-birther. I don't have the answer. Neither do the governments of those fighting the pirates. Neither do you, or anyone else in rec.boats. I was just posting a way to keep you war-mongering assholes busy. Nobody ever solved a problem without an idea and you have never had an idea. So, we are not surprised that you don't have the answer. Well, bertie-birther, as soon as you have a reasonable idea on how to end piracy, I'm sure we'll hear about it. Why don't you put forth an idea or are you just waiting to **** on everyone else's ideas? The pirate problem will either be solved by governments or not. It won't be solved by former marines who never had overseas postings or by old English majors like me. That is where you are wrong and where the root of your problem is. You are a classist. With a world view like yours the wheel never would have been invented because the buy didn't have a Masters or Doctorate in engineering therefore, according to you, he didn't have the ability to engineer the wheel. There isn't enough military interdiction knowhow in this newsgroup to stop a Brownie troop from crossing from one side to another of a school playground. If you have a *workable* idea that will stop the piracy, Bertie-Birther, let's see it. I've already suggested that the solution may be in more countries volunteering more assets so that a much larger area of the oceans there can be properly patrolled. Hell, our Navy isn't doing anything these days. Keep some assets on the North Korea watch and ship the rest over to where they might do something useful. Bill the seafaring countries of the world for the costs. |
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On 2/27/2011 8:36 AM, Harryk wrote:
Hell, our Navy isn't doing anything these days. Keep some assets on the North Korea watch and ship the rest over to where they might do something useful. Bill the seafaring countries of the world for the costs. You haven't paid your"bill" yet. Scoundrel. |
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On Feb 25, 9:31*am, Harryk wrote:
I think the U.S. Navy acted appropriately in the tragic incident that resulted in the deaths of Dr. Bob Riggle, Phyllis Macay and Jean and Scott Adam at the hands of Somali pirates. Caution has to be Job One so long as there is a chance at least some hostages might be freed. The Navy was watching and it was cautious. *From what I have read, we don't know what event(s) precipitated the shooting of the hostages by the pirates. Whatever penalties they were facing surely weren't as severe as what happened after they murdered their hostages. The areas in which these pirates operate is enormous. Obviously, more countries need to participate in patrol and interdiction. Yeah, over 500 mi from shore. obviously in int'l waters. I still say that contract security would be the cheapest (and non-political) option. |
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On Feb 27, 3:35*pm, Gene wrote:
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:31:50 -0500, Harryk wrote: I think the U.S. Navy acted appropriately in the tragic incident that resulted in the deaths of Dr. Bob Riggle, Phyllis Macay and Jean and Scott Adam at the hands of Somali pirates. Caution has to be Job One so long as there is a chance at least some hostages might be freed. The Navy was watching and it was cautious. From what I have read, we don't know what event(s) precipitated the shooting of the hostages by the pirates. Whatever penalties they were facing surely weren't as severe as what happened after they murdered their hostages. The areas in which these pirates operate is enormous. Obviously, more countries need to participate in patrol and interdiction. No.... that would be playing into their hands. The best solution would be narrow corridors which would be more easily defended. Travel outside a secured corridor would be at the individual vessel's peril.... -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. *-Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage *http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Fort Agent 6.00 Build 1186 you got a point there Vene. narrow them down to 5 miles. |
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On 2/27/11 4:40 PM, Tim wrote:
On Feb 27, 3:35 pm, wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:31:50 -0500, wrote: I think the U.S. Navy acted appropriately in the tragic incident that resulted in the deaths of Dr. Bob Riggle, Phyllis Macay and Jean and Scott Adam at the hands of Somali pirates. Caution has to be Job One so long as there is a chance at least some hostages might be freed. The Navy was watching and it was cautious. From what I have read, we don't know what event(s) precipitated the shooting of the hostages by the pirates. Whatever penalties they were facing surely weren't as severe as what happened after they murdered their hostages. The areas in which these pirates operate is enormous. Obviously, more countries need to participate in patrol and interdiction. No.... that would be playing into their hands. The best solution would be narrow corridors which would be more easily defended. Travel outside a secured corridor would be at the individual vessel's peril.... -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. -Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Fort Agent 6.00 Build 1186 you got a point there Vene. narrow them down to 5 miles. Don't freighters/tankers stay within shipping lanes? |
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On Feb 27, 3:50*pm, Harryk wrote:
On 2/27/11 4:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Feb 27, 3:35 pm, *wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:31:50 -0500, wrote: I think the U.S. Navy acted appropriately in the tragic incident that resulted in the deaths of Dr. Bob Riggle, Phyllis Macay and Jean and Scott Adam at the hands of Somali pirates. Caution has to be Job One so long as there is a chance at least some hostages might be freed. The Navy was watching and it was cautious. *From what I have read, we don't know what event(s) precipitated the shooting of the hostages by the pirates. Whatever penalties they were facing surely weren't as severe as what happened after they murdered their hostages. The areas in which these pirates operate is enormous. Obviously, more countries need to participate in patrol and interdiction. No.... that would be playing into their hands. The best solution would be narrow corridors which would be more easily defended. Travel outside a secured corridor would be at the individual vessel's peril.... -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. * -Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage * http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Fort Agent 6.00 Build 1186 you got a point there Gene. narrow them down to 5 miles. Don't freighters/tankers stay within shipping lanes? I'm sure they do, but if they were moved closer to the shore, then it would be easier to control the pirates, and the freighters wouldn't have to travel so far out in the ocean. |
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On Feb 27, 5:23*pm, Tim wrote:
On Feb 27, 3:50*pm, Harryk wrote: On 2/27/11 4:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Feb 27, 3:35 pm, *wrote: On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:31:50 -0500, wrote: I think the U.S. Navy acted appropriately in the tragic incident that resulted in the deaths of Dr. Bob Riggle, Phyllis Macay and Jean and Scott Adam at the hands of Somali pirates. Caution has to be Job One so long as there is a chance at least some hostages might be freed. The Navy was watching and it was cautious. *From what I have read, we don't know what event(s) precipitated the shooting of the hostages by the pirates. Whatever penalties they were facing surely weren't as severe as what happened after they murdered their hostages. The areas in which these pirates operate is enormous. Obviously, more countries need to participate in patrol and interdiction. No.... that would be playing into their hands. The best solution would be narrow corridors which would be more easily defended. Travel outside a secured corridor would be at the individual vessel's peril.... -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. * -Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage * http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Fort Agent 6.00 Build 1186 you got a point there Gene. narrow them down to 5 miles. Don't freighters/tankers stay within shipping lanes? I'm sure they do, but if they were moved closer to the shore, then it would be easier to control the pirates, and the freighters wouldn't have to travel so far out in *the ocean. At least that's my view... |
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 16:50:03 -0500, Harryk
wrote: Don't freighters/tankers stay within shipping lanes? Only in specially designated coastal areas. |
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