Winning elections is not good enough
 

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:16:29 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:26:17 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:00:23 -0800, jps wrote:

You think using a majority to supress the people and
votes of the opposition is fair play?

Oh like the 111th congress? You folks said the republicans should suck
it up and go along. When they didn't you said they were
obstructionists.

They never went along with anything. What R's do best is obstruct,
even when it's in the best interest of their constituents and the
country.

Aren't the Wisconsin democrats shutting down the government?
Where is your outrage?

I like it when Gov't gets shut down. It forces people to confront the
issues.

I wonder what their constitution says about legislators who abandon
their jobs? Perhaps the governor can simply replace them. In real
life, I imagine all they have to do is walk through and spit in the
lobby to demonstrate that they are still working.

The governor is using strong arm tactics to undermine collective
bargaining. It's happening all over the country in areas where R's
only interest is in serving the wealthy and big business by
undercutting unions.

We are going to be entering uncharted territory though. Nobody really
knows what happens when a state files for bankruptcy. How do they
discharge their debts when they don't have the money and they can't
just print it like the federal government does. Will they try to print
some kind of scrip and see if people would take it? Are they just
going to tell their debtors to sue them?

It'll be good if it happens. People will have to deal with the
reality of government going into complete disfunction. All those who
believe that government is evil will be crying like little babies.

We better get used to questions like this because the whole country
has a "Greece" moment coming. I doubt our protests will be as peaceful
as Egypt or even Greece. It might be more like Warsaw 1944 except the
populace is better armed. ;-)

Oh, you mean the right wing is better armed. This is what all the
jerks have been spoiling for. We're going to do a little cleansing in
the USA?

Wrong. Most gun owners are on the dole, including Medicare and SS.
When the government shuts down and their checks stop they'll take to the
streets with the union guys and go looking for Republicans to jack them
for some dough.
Going to be pretty humorous except for the blood flowing.

Oh, another racist piece of **** makes himself known.

Plonk!

Winning elections is not good enough
 

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:21:48 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Feb 18, 2:17*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:11:29 -0800, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:26:17 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:00:23 -0800, jps wrote:

You think using a majority to supress the people and
votes of the opposition is fair play?

Oh like the 111th congress? You folks said the republicans should suck
it up and go along. When they didn't you said they were
obstructionists.
Aren't the Wisconsin democrats shutting down the government?
Where is your outrage?
I wonder what their constitution says about legislators who abandon
their jobs? Perhaps the governor can simply replace them. In real
life, I imagine all they have to do is walk through and spit in the
lobby to demonstrate that they are still working.

We are going to be entering uncharted territory though. Nobody really
knows what happens when a state files for bankruptcy. How do they
discharge their debts when they don't have the money and they can't
just print it like the federal government does. Will they try to print
some kind of scrip and see if people would take it? Are they just
going to tell their debtors to sue them?

We better get used to questions like this because the whole country
has a "Greece" moment coming. I doubt our protests will be as peaceful
as Egypt or even Greece. It might be more like Warsaw 1944 except the
populace is better armed. *;-)

There's no "Greece" or Egypt "moment" coming. That's a paranoid
fantasy.

For some it's a sexual fantasy involving their big guns.

A true liberal, jps wishes violence against those he disagrees with.
Do the Libs really want to incite violence against those who support
the constitution?

Ah, yes, wrap yourself in the flag and the constitution. You'd better
because you've got no clothes otherwise.

Accusing libs of wanting to incite violence is laughable. It's the
knee jerk wingers who resort to threats and violence when they can't
win. Who are the idiots who open carry when the president is coming
to visit? Are those liberals or "conservatives?"

Who marches with signs about blood being necessary to keep the tree of
freedom alive? Those are liberals? For someone with a brain, you
sure have some insane ideas. If you're an idiot savant, your gift is
surely not in understanding politics or people.

One guy with a long gun, compared to this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71gsn...layer_embedded

Here is another "brave" liberal, attacking old women...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVFdaz_VUJE

Here is another advocate of "free speech"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBDqG...1&feature=fvwp

I wonder if our friend Donnie was in this crowd?

http://www.breitbart.tv/hate-rally-p...ca-with-trash-
left-behind/

Plonk away, but these are the facts. Liberals including the one in the
Whitehouse are doing everything you have suggested above. Here it is in
full color. The best you have is Pelosi lying about something she said
happened on the steps of congress and one guy with a long gun that saw a
rally and stopped by as far as you know.

You keep saying the conservatives are the ones pushing violence and
destruction yet the video shows just the opposite.

Winning elections is not good enough
 

In article ,
says...


You keep saying the conservatives are the ones pushing violence and
destruction yet the video shows just the opposite.

What video? Are you nuts?

Winning elections is not good enough
 

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:21:48 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Feb 18, 2:17*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:11:29 -0800, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:26:17 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:00:23 -0800, jps wrote:

You think using a majority to supress the people and
votes of the opposition is fair play?

Oh like the 111th congress? You folks said the republicans should suck
it up and go along. When they didn't you said they were
obstructionists.
Aren't the Wisconsin democrats shutting down the government?
Where is your outrage?
I wonder what their constitution says about legislators who abandon
their jobs? Perhaps the governor can simply replace them. In real
life, I imagine all they have to do is walk through and spit in the
lobby to demonstrate that they are still working.

We are going to be entering uncharted territory though. Nobody really
knows what happens when a state files for bankruptcy. How do they
discharge their debts when they don't have the money and they can't
just print it like the federal government does. Will they try to print
some kind of scrip and see if people would take it? Are they just
going to tell their debtors to sue them?

We better get used to questions like this because the whole country
has a "Greece" moment coming. I doubt our protests will be as peaceful
as Egypt or even Greece. It might be more like Warsaw 1944 except the
populace is better armed. *;-)

There's no "Greece" or Egypt "moment" coming. That's a paranoid
fantasy.

For some it's a sexual fantasy involving their big guns.

A true liberal, jps wishes violence against those he disagrees with.
Do the Libs really want to incite violence against those who support
the constitution?

Ah, yes, wrap yourself in the flag and the constitution. You'd better
because you've got no clothes otherwise.

Accusing libs of wanting to incite violence is laughable. It's the
knee jerk wingers who resort to threats and violence when they can't
win. Who are the idiots who open carry when the president is coming
to visit? Are those liberals or "conservatives?"

Who marches with signs about blood being necessary to keep the tree of
freedom alive? Those are liberals? For someone with a brain, you
sure have some insane ideas. If you're an idiot savant, your gift is
surely not in understanding politics or people.

One guy with a long gun, compared to this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71gsn...layer_embedded

Here is another "brave" liberal, attacking old women...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVFdaz_VUJE

Here is another advocate of "free speech"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBDqG...1&feature=fvwp

I wonder if our friend Donnie was in this crowd?

http://www.breitbart.tv/hate-rally-p...ca-with-trash-
left-behind/

Plonk away, but these are the facts. Liberals including the one in the
Whitehouse are doing everything you have suggested above. Here it is in
full color. The best you have is Pelosi lying about something she said
happened on the steps of congress and one guy with a long gun that saw a
rally and stopped by as far as you know.

You keep saying the conservatives are the ones pushing violence and
destruction yet the video shows just the opposite.

Please show what facts you have that Pelosi lied.

Winning elections is not good enough
 

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:53:49 -0500, I am Perfect wrote:

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:21:48 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Feb 18, 2:17*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:11:29 -0800, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:26:17 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:00:23 -0800, jps wrote:

You think using a majority to supress the people and
votes of the opposition is fair play?

Oh like the 111th congress? You folks said the republicans should suck
it up and go along. When they didn't you said they were
obstructionists.
Aren't the Wisconsin democrats shutting down the government?
Where is your outrage?
I wonder what their constitution says about legislators who abandon
their jobs? Perhaps the governor can simply replace them. In real
life, I imagine all they have to do is walk through and spit in the
lobby to demonstrate that they are still working.

We are going to be entering uncharted territory though. Nobody really
knows what happens when a state files for bankruptcy. How do they
discharge their debts when they don't have the money and they can't
just print it like the federal government does. Will they try to print
some kind of scrip and see if people would take it? Are they just
going to tell their debtors to sue them?

We better get used to questions like this because the whole country
has a "Greece" moment coming. I doubt our protests will be as peaceful
as Egypt or even Greece. It might be more like Warsaw 1944 except the
populace is better armed. *;-)

There's no "Greece" or Egypt "moment" coming. That's a paranoid
fantasy.

For some it's a sexual fantasy involving their big guns.

A true liberal, jps wishes violence against those he disagrees with.
Do the Libs really want to incite violence against those who support
the constitution?

Ah, yes, wrap yourself in the flag and the constitution. You'd better
because you've got no clothes otherwise.

Accusing libs of wanting to incite violence is laughable. It's the
knee jerk wingers who resort to threats and violence when they can't
win. Who are the idiots who open carry when the president is coming
to visit? Are those liberals or "conservatives?"

Who marches with signs about blood being necessary to keep the tree of
freedom alive? Those are liberals? For someone with a brain, you
sure have some insane ideas. If you're an idiot savant, your gift is
surely not in understanding politics or people.

One guy with a long gun, compared to this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71gsn...layer_embedded

Here is another "brave" liberal, attacking old women...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVFdaz_VUJE

Here is another advocate of "free speech"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBDqG...1&feature=fvwp

I wonder if our friend Donnie was in this crowd?

http://www.breitbart.tv/hate-rally-p...ca-with-trash-
left-behind/

Plonk away, but these are the facts. Liberals including the one in the
Whitehouse are doing everything you have suggested above. Here it is in
full color. The best you have is Pelosi lying about something she said
happened on the steps of congress and one guy with a long gun that saw a
rally and stopped by as far as you know.

You keep saying the conservatives are the ones pushing violence and
destruction yet the video shows just the opposite.

Please show what facts you have that Pelosi lied.

I sure hope that was a joke.

Winning elections is not good enough
 

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:10:48 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:11:29 -0800, wrote:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:26:17 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:00:23 -0800, jps wrote:

You think using a majority to supress the people and
votes of the opposition is fair play?

Oh like the 111th congress? You folks said the republicans should suck
it up and go along. When they didn't you said they were
obstructionists.
Aren't the Wisconsin democrats shutting down the government?
Where is your outrage?
I wonder what their constitution says about legislators who abandon
their jobs? Perhaps the governor can simply replace them. In real
life, I imagine all they have to do is walk through and spit in the
lobby to demonstrate that they are still working.

We are going to be entering uncharted territory though. Nobody really
knows what happens when a state files for bankruptcy. How do they
discharge their debts when they don't have the money and they can't
just print it like the federal government does. Will they try to print
some kind of scrip and see if people would take it? Are they just
going to tell their debtors to sue them?

We better get used to questions like this because the whole country
has a "Greece" moment coming. I doubt our protests will be as peaceful
as Egypt or even Greece. It might be more like Warsaw 1944 except the
populace is better armed. ;-)

There's no "Greece" or Egypt "moment" coming. That's a paranoid
fantasy.

I guess you were absent the day they taught arithmetic.

Why don't you find something a little more biting if you're trying to
insult me.


Are you denying the deficit is a problem and that the entitlements are
unsustainable?

Never denied it. What I'm denying is that it's a short-term problem.
It's a long-term problem. Obama's recent budget addressed it in the
long term to the tune of $1.1 T (some things I don't agree with, but
that's another story). Of course Sen. Sessions said it didn't go deep
enough, but of course he proposed nearly the exact same deficit
reduction amount a short while ago.

That is what brought down the Greek economy

We are not Greece... I know that's an incredible statement for some
people...

Winning elections is not good enough
 

On 2/18/2011 2:30 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 2/18/11 2:21 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 18, 2:17 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:11:29 -0800, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 12:26:17 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:00:23 -0800, wrote:

You think using a majority to supress the people and
votes of the opposition is fair play?

Oh like the 111th congress? You folks said the republicans should
suck
it up and go along. When they didn't you said they were
obstructionists.
Aren't the Wisconsin democrats shutting down the government?
Where is your outrage?
I wonder what their constitution says about legislators who abandon
their jobs? Perhaps the governor can simply replace them. In real
life, I imagine all they have to do is walk through and spit in the
lobby to demonstrate that they are still working.

We are going to be entering uncharted territory though. Nobody really
knows what happens when a state files for bankruptcy. How do they
discharge their debts when they don't have the money and they can't
just print it like the federal government does. Will they try to
print
some kind of scrip and see if people would take it? Are they just
going to tell their debtors to sue them?

We better get used to questions like this because the whole country
has a "Greece" moment coming. I doubt our protests will be as
peaceful
as Egypt or even Greece. It might be more like Warsaw 1944 except the
populace is better armed. ;-)

There's no "Greece" or Egypt "moment" coming. That's a paranoid
fantasy.

For some it's a sexual fantasy involving their big guns.

A true liberal, jps wishes violence against those he disagrees with.
Do the Libs really want to incite violence against those who support
the constitution?


There's no evidence you've ever read the document.
When does the trial start? Evidence indeed. You are just as stupid as
DePlume.

Winning elections is not good enough
 

On 2/18/2011 3:25 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:17:09 -0500,
wrote:

On 2/18/2011 1:44 PM, jps wrote:

I hope a union thug finds Breitbart, removes his balls (or what's left
of them) and stuffs them down his throat.

Ah, yes. A fine example of inciting violence against conservatives.

You lefties sure are an angry bunch.

You can't tell the difference between a god-blessed wish and reality.
Has it happened in your mind because I wished it?

The mark of a conservative. Fantasy=Reality

No different then putting crosshairs on people's pictures.

The mark of a liberal. Hypocrisy.

Winning elections is not good enough
 

On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:03:11 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

On 2/18/2011 3:25 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:17:09 -0500,
wrote:

On 2/18/2011 1:44 PM, jps wrote:

I hope a union thug finds Breitbart, removes his balls (or what's left
of them) and stuffs them down his throat.

Ah, yes. A fine example of inciting violence against conservatives.

You lefties sure are an angry bunch.

You can't tell the difference between a god-blessed wish and reality.
Has it happened in your mind because I wished it?

The mark of a conservative. Fantasy=Reality

No different then putting crosshairs on people's pictures.

The mark of a liberal. Hypocrisy.

You probably hadn't noticed but I'm not Sarah Palin and don't have a
following of loons that'll act on my whim.

Duh.

Post with you own name, asshole.

Winning elections is not good enough
 

On 2/18/11 5:03 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 2/18/2011 3:25 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:17:09 -0500,
wrote:

On 2/18/2011 1:44 PM, jps wrote:

I hope a union thug finds Breitbart, removes his balls (or what's left
of them) and stuffs them down his throat.

Ah, yes. A fine example of inciting violence against conservatives.

You lefties sure are an angry bunch.

You can't tell the difference between a god-blessed wish and reality.
Has it happened in your mind because I wished it?

The mark of a conservative. Fantasy=Reality

No different then putting crosshairs on people's pictures.

The mark of a liberal. Hypocrisy.


Ahh, the ID spoofer is active...still.
These poor guys, they can't make it with their own IDs here...so they
have to use someone else's.