Winning elections is not good enough
 

On 19/02/2011 7:09 PM, wrote:

Did you know 74% of Whitehouse staff got a 9% raise last year? Piggies
are having a feast while others suffer.

Cutting half of the DoD budget is a good start but if you ignore
SS/Medicare you will never get a handle on the deficit.

The rest may be good symbolism but they are insignificant.

Agreed. The cuts have to go deep and *no* sacred cows spared. Even
congressional, senate and administration budgets need the big axe.
Duplicated agencies collapsed into one with massively reduced budgets.
What, is there 5 or 7 housing agencies? Why not one that is color
blind? Or why even have a housing agency as states/cities do their own
civic planning?

The cuts will need to be deep to be effective.

But it is also why I am betting they will not do it. Sad to say, US
government bankruptcy is inevitable as I don't believe in politicians
being this "American" to save the country from eventual currency based
bankruptcy. $60 billion is hardly a scratch. Thy need another $1,600
billion. The cuts are not even 5% of what is needed to balance up. A
joke really.

Now if congress refuses the debt/money expansion say for 3 months and DC
government checks bounce to send the message... I will re-assess the
politicians desire to remain solvent.

Until then people need to start thinking of currency as a rapidly
depreciating asset. $1 today is effectively $0.95 next week in
purchasing power.

--
Socialism is a great ideal as long as someone else pays for it. And when
no one is left to pay for it, they all can share nothing.

Winning elections is not good enough
 

On 20/02/2011 9:28 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:01:11 -0800, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 00:17:10 -0500, wrote:



Cutting half of the DoD budget is a good start but if you ignore
SS/Medicare you will never get a handle on the deficit.

The rest may be good symbolism but they are insignificant.

Completely untrue and misleading as usual.

What is untrue? You don't think SS and Medicare are a budget buster in
the out years?

SS/MC are not in trouble right now. They will be if nothing is
changed, but NOT RIGHT NOW.


WTF? Both are paying out more than they take in. In any other business
that is called running at a loss. There is no likely scenario that
will make that get any better. One of the current proposals is to
remove the FICA tax altogether so they do not have to perpetuate this
lie of "insurance" or "an investment". SS/Medicare will just become
welfare. That will make it easier to ration, means test and alter
benefits.

In reality, that is what it has become. A welfare tax. 90% of the
working population would be better off if it was all refunded with fair
interest and employers part into their IRA.

--
Socialism is a great ideal as long as someone else pays for it. And when
no one is left to pay for it, they all can share nothing.

Winning elections is not good enough
 

On 19/02/2011 6:41 PM, L G wrote:
bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:43:29 -0500, wrote:


Are you the only fool that thinks government is doing a good job?
and how's wall street doing after sucking 10 trillion out of the
economy in the last 3 years? we back at full employment?
Wall Street again? Businesses don't suck money from the economy, blind
man. They conduct business with strict rules in place.

And no government in the land could live by the same rules either.

--
Socialism is a great ideal as long as someone else pays for it. And when
no one is left to pay for it, they all can share nothing.

Winning elections is not good enough
 

On 19/02/2011 9:05 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 10:23:49 -0700,
wrote:

On 18/02/2011 4:21 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:20:04 -0700,
wrote:

On 18/02/2011 9:15 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 18, 11:01 am, need wrote:
In , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...



On 2/18/11 10:44 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
The Obamanations are not interested in democracy as shown by what is
happening in Wisconsin. When the other side wins the election, they
engage in an illegal walkout to prevent legislation. Remember "Card
Check" where they tried to deny people the right to vote on
unionization? They have no interest in Democracy, they are interested
in raw power.
Winning the election was not good enough because they do not recognize
who won. When that happens, the next step is..................

...right-wing racist-birthers like you move to another country?

Yes, we know you are trying to clear this group for your 2012 propaganda
run. Remember how each and every Progressive here answered Tim's call
for civility with a defined, NO, NO, NO!?

Here is your story.
Democrats, being thugs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71gsn...layer_embedded

Here is another "brave" liberal, attacking old women...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVFdaz_VUJE

Here is another advocate of "free speech"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBDqG...1&feature=fvwp

I wonder if our friend Donnie was in this crowd?

http://www.breitbart.tv/hate-rally-p...ca-with-trash-
left-behind/

Oh, did you notice Tim doesn't post here anymore?

The lefties do not recognize elections and routinely attack any
dissent and then blame everyone else. Their own shot Gifford and they
blamed Palin. Lefties eventually always resort to mass murder as
Obama's best friend Bill Ayers said he wanted when he said he wanted
to kill 20 million Americans.

The liberal lefties up here are the same. Irrational zealots of telling
others they will pay for their welfare. Nosy types too.

I think you should move to Yemen immediately. I'm sure they'd welcome
your dislike of gov't.

Have more peaceful places to consider. I wouldn't move to a Muslim
country for any reason.

Don't worry, they won't let you in. Either would Panama or Costa Rica
if they find out what you'd be doing/saying about their gov't.

Funny, I have already been told I more than qualify and the bank already
provided me with the reference I need. Looking at some properties now.
And I didn't say anything bad about Panama or Costa Rica...

When I go out on a boat fishing, I will not think of you. Do have to
bone up on my Spanish though.

--
Socialism is a great ideal as long as someone else pays for it. And when
no one is left to pay for it, they all can share nothing.

Winning elections is not good enough
 

On 18/02/2011 1:25 PM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 15:17:09 -0500,
wrote:

On 2/18/2011 1:44 PM, jps wrote:

I hope a union thug finds Breitbart, removes his balls (or what's left
of them) and stuffs them down his throat.

Ah, yes. A fine example of inciting violence against conservatives.

You lefties sure are an angry bunch.

You can't tell the difference between a god-blessed wish and reality.
Has it happened in your mind because I wished it?

The mark of a conservative. Fantasy=Reality

Geez... must work to be conservative from where I stand, as my friends
are conservative and retired early. The liberals I know are still
working because they have to.

--
Socialism is a great ideal as long as someone else pays for it. And when
no one is left to pay for it, they all can share nothing.

Winning elections is not good enough
 

On 20/02/2011 11:38 AM, wrote:

You moved back to Canada because you were thrown out of the US.

And I took my job with me!

Feel free to stay there or move to Yemen.

Hahahaha...

You're the loonie.

loonies traded at 1.013 -- I like.

--
Socialism is a great ideal as long as someone else pays for it. And when
no one is left to pay for it, they all can share nothing.

Winning elections is not good enough
 

On 20/02/2011 11:37 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:28:20 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:01:11 -0800, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 00:17:10 -0500, wrote:



Cutting half of the DoD budget is a good start but if you ignore
SS/Medicare you will never get a handle on the deficit.

The rest may be good symbolism but they are insignificant.

Completely untrue and misleading as usual.

What is untrue? You don't think SS and Medicare are a budget buster in
the out years?

SS/MC are not in trouble right now. They will be if nothing is
changed, but NOT RIGHT NOW.


WTF? Both are paying out more than they take in. In any other business
that is called running at a loss. There is no likely scenario that
will make that get any better. One of the current proposals is to
remove the FICA tax altogether so they do not have to perpetuate this
lie of "insurance" or "an investment". SS/Medicare will just become
welfare. That will make it easier to ration, means test and alter
benefits.

So what. That's a long-term problem not a short term one.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...rming_soc.html
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...shortfall.html

Social Security reform is about ripping people off that paid far too
much into it. Hey, they got your money now they don't want to pay good
on the promise. DC is welshing in the people, their own people.

Hey, it should be eliminated. But the tax and employers part should be
contributed to an account in the employees name, in the employees
account and under their control, and not able to withdraw until 60 or
so. And withdrawals need to be controlled as not to blow it on drugs
and the like.

This way government skimming and bamboozling can't diminish its value.

Pooling money schemes, be they government SS or defined plans, they are
garbage plans designed to hide the skimming and slight.

In an ideal world, the idea of government pension is a good one. But
the real world, such pooled plans always get the political corruption to
rip people off as money like that attracts liberal leaches and political
parasites bad.

In your name, in your account and in your control. That is where you
want your pension and retirement. Keeps it away from the greedy liberal
spenders.
--
Socialism is a great ideal as long as someone else pays for it. And when
no one is left to pay for it, they all can share nothing.

Winning elections is not good enough
 

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:53:21 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 20/02/2011 11:37 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 11:28:20 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:01:11 -0800, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 00:17:10 -0500, wrote:



Cutting half of the DoD budget is a good start but if you ignore
SS/Medicare you will never get a handle on the deficit.

The rest may be good symbolism but they are insignificant.

Completely untrue and misleading as usual.

What is untrue? You don't think SS and Medicare are a budget buster in
the out years?

SS/MC are not in trouble right now. They will be if nothing is
changed, but NOT RIGHT NOW.


WTF? Both are paying out more than they take in. In any other business
that is called running at a loss. There is no likely scenario that
will make that get any better. One of the current proposals is to
remove the FICA tax altogether so they do not have to perpetuate this
lie of "insurance" or "an investment". SS/Medicare will just become
welfare. That will make it easier to ration, means test and alter
benefits.

So what. That's a long-term problem not a short term one.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...rming_soc.html
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...shortfall.html

Social Security reform is about ripping people off that paid far too
much into it. Hey, they got your money now they don't want to pay good
on the promise. DC is welshing in the people, their own people.

Hey, it should be eliminated. But the tax and employers part should be
contributed to an account in the employees name, in the employees
account and under their control, and not able to withdraw until 60 or
so. And withdrawals need to be controlled as not to blow it on drugs
and the like.

This way government skimming and bamboozling can't diminish its value.

Pooling money schemes, be they government SS or defined plans, they are
garbage plans designed to hide the skimming and slight.

In an ideal world, the idea of government pension is a good one. But
the real world, such pooled plans always get the political corruption to
rip people off as money like that attracts liberal leaches and political
parasites bad.

In your name, in your account and in your control. That is where you
want your pension and retirement. Keeps it away from the greedy liberal
spenders.

You're brainless.

Winning elections is not good enough
 

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:41:45 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 19/02/2011 7:09 PM, wrote:

Did you know 74% of Whitehouse staff got a 9% raise last year? Piggies
are having a feast while others suffer.

Cutting half of the DoD budget is a good start but if you ignore
SS/Medicare you will never get a handle on the deficit.

The rest may be good symbolism but they are insignificant.

Agreed. The cuts have to go deep and *no* sacred cows spared. Even
congressional, senate and administration budgets need the big axe.
Duplicated agencies collapsed into one with massively reduced budgets.
What, is there 5 or 7 housing agencies? Why not one that is color
blind? Or why even have a housing agency as states/cities do their own
civic planning?

The cuts will need to be deep to be effective.

But it is also why I am betting they will not do it. Sad to say, US
government bankruptcy is inevitable as I don't believe in politicians
being this "American" to save the country from eventual currency based
bankruptcy. $60 billion is hardly a scratch. Thy need another $1,600
billion. The cuts are not even 5% of what is needed to balance up. A
joke really.

Now if congress refuses the debt/money expansion say for 3 months and DC
government checks bounce to send the message... I will re-assess the
politicians desire to remain solvent.

Until then people need to start thinking of currency as a rapidly
depreciating asset. $1 today is effectively $0.95 next week in
purchasing power.

Fortunately, you have no say in what happens in this great country.

Winning elections is not good enough
 

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:55:20 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 19/02/2011 9:05 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 10:23:49 -0700,
wrote:

On 18/02/2011 4:21 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:20:04 -0700,
wrote:

On 18/02/2011 9:15 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 18, 11:01 am, need wrote:
In , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...



On 2/18/11 10:44 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
The Obamanations are not interested in democracy as shown by what is
happening in Wisconsin. When the other side wins the election, they
engage in an illegal walkout to prevent legislation. Remember "Card
Check" where they tried to deny people the right to vote on
unionization? They have no interest in Democracy, they are interested
in raw power.
Winning the election was not good enough because they do not recognize
who won. When that happens, the next step is..................

...right-wing racist-birthers like you move to another country?

Yes, we know you are trying to clear this group for your 2012 propaganda
run. Remember how each and every Progressive here answered Tim's call
for civility with a defined, NO, NO, NO!?

Here is your story.
Democrats, being thugs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71gsn...layer_embedded

Here is another "brave" liberal, attacking old women...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVFdaz_VUJE

Here is another advocate of "free speech"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBDqG...1&feature=fvwp

I wonder if our friend Donnie was in this crowd?

http://www.breitbart.tv/hate-rally-p...ca-with-trash-
left-behind/

Oh, did you notice Tim doesn't post here anymore?

The lefties do not recognize elections and routinely attack any
dissent and then blame everyone else. Their own shot Gifford and they
blamed Palin. Lefties eventually always resort to mass murder as
Obama's best friend Bill Ayers said he wanted when he said he wanted
to kill 20 million Americans.

The liberal lefties up here are the same. Irrational zealots of telling
others they will pay for their welfare. Nosy types too.

I think you should move to Yemen immediately. I'm sure they'd welcome
your dislike of gov't.

Have more peaceful places to consider. I wouldn't move to a Muslim
country for any reason.

Don't worry, they won't let you in. Either would Panama or Costa Rica
if they find out what you'd be doing/saying about their gov't.

Funny, I have already been told I more than qualify and the bank already
provided me with the reference I need. Looking at some properties now.
And I didn't say anything bad about Panama or Costa Rica...

When I go out on a boat fishing, I will not think of you. Do have to
bone up on my Spanish though.

Funny... you should leave immediately.