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I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

How can this be? (Electrical Question)
 

In article ,
says...

I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

I think it's in the step-down gearing.

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On Feb 3, 1:15*pm, Spooker wrote:
In article ,
says...



I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Poulan * Husqvarna * * * * * * * * * * * *
Item Number * * * * * * 118147 * * 328965 * * * * *
Bar Length (Inches) * * *16.0 * * * * * * * * * * * * 14.0 * * * * * * * * *
Amps (Amps) * * * * * * * 13.5 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

I think it's in the step-down gearing.

13.5 hp? Nah, and i don't believe the 3.5 and 9.7 either. not on a
13.5 amp motor. Maybe .97 and 1.35... that would be more realistic.

i know what you're saying though. Yes the gearing might make a
difference, and I would think that the Husky would have a slower chain
RPM.

But also one reason they rate a higher hp is the shorter bar. The
Husky would be a better saw, but IMO, not a $200.00 better saw.

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On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:42:52 -0500, John H
wrote:

I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

Manufacturers of electric tools play a lot of games with horsepower.
It's really very simple however.

watts = volts x amps = 120 x 15 = 1800 watts from a typical 15 amp
circuit

1000 watts = 1 kw = 1.34 horsepower at perfect (100%) efficiency.

Therefore the absolute maximum horsepower you can get on a 15 amp
circuit is 1.8 x 1.34 = 2.41

In reality you'd be lucky to get 2 hp at normal efficiencies.

Gearing has nothing to do with it, hp stays the same, RPM and torque
change.

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John H wrote:
I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

What's more interesting is that they are made by the same company -
Electrolux.

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In article ,
says...

John H wrote:
I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

What's more interesting is that they are made by the same company -
Electrolux.

It's all about the label.

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On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:54:32 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:42:52 -0500, John H
wrote:

I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

Manufacturers of electric tools play a lot of games with horsepower.
It's really very simple however.

watts = volts x amps = 120 x 15 = 1800 watts from a typical 15 amp
circuit

1000 watts = 1 kw = 1.34 horsepower at perfect (100%) efficiency.

Therefore the absolute maximum horsepower you can get on a 15 amp
circuit is 1.8 x 1.34 = 2.41

In reality you'd be lucky to get 2 hp at normal efficiencies.

Gearing has nothing to do with it, hp stays the same, RPM and torque
change.

Thanks. Thought there must be something fishy going on.

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On Feb 3, 6:54*pm, Wayne.B wrote:

Gearing has nothing to do with it, hp stays the same, RPM and torque
change.

True. instead of torque and hp, I am beginning to like the measurement
of watts, KW,s mega-w's etc.

I think it's a lot more accurate.

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some neat things about an electric chainsaw is 1. they're light 2.
great if you just have some yard trimming to do 3. quiet -(well,
sounds like a circular saw but not even that loud.) good for noise
restricted areas, 4. no mix fuel. 5, fuel doesn't go bad in them and
they're easy to start. plug in and pull the trigger. 6 They're cheap.

bad part is unless you get a cordless one, you are only restricted
to the length of your extension cord.

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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 06:02:20 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

some neat things about an electric chainsaw is 1. they're light 2.
great if you just have some yard trimming to do 3. quiet -(well,
sounds like a circular saw but not even that loud.) good for noise
restricted areas, 4. no mix fuel. 5, fuel doesn't go bad in them and
they're easy to start. plug in and pull the trigger. 6 They're cheap.

bad part is unless you get a cordless one, you are only restricted
to the length of your extension cord.

Luckily, my house is about in the middle of a lot 200' long, so a 100' cord
ought to do quite well.

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In article ,
says...

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:42:52 -0500, John H
wrote:

I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

Manufacturers of electric tools play a lot of games with horsepower.
It's really very simple however.

watts = volts x amps = 120 x 15 = 1800 watts from a typical 15 amp
circuit

1000 watts = 1 kw = 1.34 horsepower at perfect (100%) efficiency.

Therefore the absolute maximum horsepower you can get on a 15 amp
circuit is 1.8 x 1.34 = 2.41

In reality you'd be lucky to get 2 hp at normal efficiencies.

Gearing has nothing to do with it, hp stays the same, RPM and torque
change.

Depends where the horsepower is measured.

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"John H" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:54:32 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:42:52 -0500, John H
wrote:

I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times
the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

Manufacturers of electric tools play a lot of games with horsepower.
It's really very simple however.

watts = volts x amps = 120 x 15 = 1800 watts from a typical 15 amp
circuit

1000 watts = 1 kw = 1.34 horsepower at perfect (100%) efficiency.

Therefore the absolute maximum horsepower you can get on a 15 amp
circuit is 1.8 x 1.34 = 2.41

In reality you'd be lucky to get 2 hp at normal efficiencies.

Gearing has nothing to do with it, hp stays the same, RPM and torque
change.

Thanks. Thought there must be something fishy going on.


My pocket reference says a typical 1HP motor will draw 13 to 16 A at full
load. This falls right in line with what Wayne presented.

Here's a calculator to play with
http://www.onlineconversion.com/motor_horsepower.htm


--
Ziggy®

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In article ,
says...

On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:28:01 -0500, Spooker wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:42:52 -0500, John H
wrote:

I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

Manufacturers of electric tools play a lot of games with horsepower.
It's really very simple however.

watts = volts x amps = 120 x 15 = 1800 watts from a typical 15 amp
circuit

1000 watts = 1 kw = 1.34 horsepower at perfect (100%) efficiency.

Therefore the absolute maximum horsepower you can get on a 15 amp
circuit is 1.8 x 1.34 = 2.41

In reality you'd be lucky to get 2 hp at normal efficiencies.

Gearing has nothing to do with it, hp stays the same, RPM and torque
change.

Depends where the horsepower is measured.

In the case of a motor it is measured at the output shaft.
One horsepower is supposed to be 550 ft/pounds per second.

Manufactures really play fast and loose with this. They use words like
"instantaneous peak" and other meaningless terms to inflate the real
number. Power still equals force over time and "instantaneous" implies
zero time. We all know what strange things happen when you divide by
zero. That is the basis for that 1=2 formula you saw in Algebra 1.

Yep, but as to the comment about where the horsepower is measured
doesn't necessarily mean at the output shaft of the motor itself. There
is a gearbox involved and that horsepower may be a lot different. Take a
look at an outboard motor's horsepower of the engine versus horsepower
at the prop.

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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:03:50 -0500, "Ziggy®" wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 19:54:32 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:42:52 -0500, John H
wrote:

I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times
the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

Manufacturers of electric tools play a lot of games with horsepower.
It's really very simple however.

watts = volts x amps = 120 x 15 = 1800 watts from a typical 15 amp
circuit

1000 watts = 1 kw = 1.34 horsepower at perfect (100%) efficiency.

Therefore the absolute maximum horsepower you can get on a 15 amp
circuit is 1.8 x 1.34 = 2.41

In reality you'd be lucky to get 2 hp at normal efficiencies.

Gearing has nothing to do with it, hp stays the same, RPM and torque
change.

Thanks. Thought there must be something fishy going on.


My pocket reference says a typical 1HP motor will draw 13 to 16 A at full
load. This falls right in line with what Wayne presented.

Here's a calculator to play with
http://www.onlineconversion.com/motor_horsepower.htm

Cool. Thanks.

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On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:01:24 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:06:10 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:42:52 -0500, John H
wrote:

I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

It can't.... unless it is fed by three times the voltage.....

Apparently, the Husqvarna is 1600 Watts.....

Divide 1600/746 and you have 2.14HP... and that is at 100% efficiency.

(746 Watts = 1 HP....)

The Poulan should be about the same.... the numbers are just
crazy....

Yup. And it's a mute point. I've got a Remington coming in the mail from
southern Illinois. Tim even cranked it up over the phone for me. The damn thing
sounded like an F-16 buzzing his shop. Now I've found the manual, so I can't
wait to get the thing.

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In article ,
says...

On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:01:24 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:06:10 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:42:52 -0500, John H
wrote:

I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

It can't.... unless it is fed by three times the voltage.....

Apparently, the Husqvarna is 1600 Watts.....

Divide 1600/746 and you have 2.14HP... and that is at 100% efficiency.

(746 Watts = 1 HP....)

The Poulan should be about the same.... the numbers are just
crazy....

Yup. And it's a mute point. I've got a Remington coming in the mail from
southern Illinois. Tim even cranked it up over the phone for me. The damn thing
sounded like an F-16 buzzing his shop. Now I've found the manual, so I can't
wait to get the thing.

Did you get Tim to put the muffler back on?

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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:46:36 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:01:24 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:06:10 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:42:52 -0500, John H
wrote:

I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

It can't.... unless it is fed by three times the voltage.....

Apparently, the Husqvarna is 1600 Watts.....

Divide 1600/746 and you have 2.14HP... and that is at 100% efficiency.

(746 Watts = 1 HP....)

The Poulan should be about the same.... the numbers are just
crazy....

Yup. And it's a mute point. I've got a Remington coming in the mail from
southern Illinois. Tim even cranked it up over the phone for me. The damn thing
sounded like an F-16 buzzing his shop. Now I've found the manual, so I can't
wait to get the thing.

Did you get Tim to put the muffler back on?


It's electric - but it sounded like it could use a muffler.

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On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:55:42 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:42:11 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:01:24 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:06:10 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:42:52 -0500, John H
wrote:

I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

It can't.... unless it is fed by three times the voltage.....

Apparently, the Husqvarna is 1600 Watts.....

Divide 1600/746 and you have 2.14HP... and that is at 100% efficiency.

(746 Watts = 1 HP....)

The Poulan should be about the same.... the numbers are just
crazy....

Yup. And it's a mute point. I've got a Remington coming in the mail from
southern Illinois. Tim even cranked it up over the phone for me. The damn thing
sounded like an F-16 buzzing his shop. Now I've found the manual, so I can't
wait to get the thing.

You got screwed..... I'll bet you can't even find a place to plug it
in......

:-)

Nah, this'll be the best electric chainsaw I've got. You just watch!

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BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

John H wrote:

I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.


What's more interesting is that they are made by the same company -
Electrolux.

It's all about the label.

Yep.

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"Spooker" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:28:01 -0500, Spooker wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:42:52 -0500, John H
wrote:

I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times
the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

Manufacturers of electric tools play a lot of games with horsepower.
It's really very simple however.

watts = volts x amps = 120 x 15 = 1800 watts from a typical 15 amp
circuit

1000 watts = 1 kw = 1.34 horsepower at perfect (100%) efficiency.

Therefore the absolute maximum horsepower you can get on a 15 amp
circuit is 1.8 x 1.34 = 2.41

In reality you'd be lucky to get 2 hp at normal efficiencies.

Gearing has nothing to do with it, hp stays the same, RPM and torque
change.

Depends where the horsepower is measured.

In the case of a motor it is measured at the output shaft.
One horsepower is supposed to be 550 ft/pounds per second.

Manufactures really play fast and loose with this. They use words like
"instantaneous peak" and other meaningless terms to inflate the real
number. Power still equals force over time and "instantaneous" implies
zero time. We all know what strange things happen when you divide by
zero. That is the basis for that 1=2 formula you saw in Algebra 1.

Yep, but as to the comment about where the horsepower is measured
doesn't necessarily mean at the output shaft of the motor itself. There
is a gearbox involved and that horsepower may be a lot different. Take a
look at an outboard motor's horsepower of the engine versus horsepower
at the prop.


Is measured at the prop in outboards now, but use to be at the head. Prop
will always have less HP than at the head. Friction losses.

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In article ,
says...

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:42:52 -0500, John H
wrote:

I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

It can't.... unless it is fed by three times the voltage.....

Exactly!

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On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 20:55:50 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 19:59:21 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:55:42 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:42:11 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:01:24 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:06:10 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:42:52 -0500, John H
wrote:

I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

It can't.... unless it is fed by three times the voltage.....

Apparently, the Husqvarna is 1600 Watts.....

Divide 1600/746 and you have 2.14HP... and that is at 100% efficiency.

(746 Watts = 1 HP....)

The Poulan should be about the same.... the numbers are just
crazy....

Yup. And it's a mute point. I've got a Remington coming in the mail from
southern Illinois. Tim even cranked it up over the phone for me. The damn thing
sounded like an F-16 buzzing his shop. Now I've found the manual, so I can't
wait to get the thing.

You got screwed..... I'll bet you can't even find a place to plug it
in......

:-)

Nah, this'll be the best electric chainsaw I've got. You just watch!

All goofing aside.... make SURE that your fuel is good...

this new ethanol based fuel is HELL on 2-cycle engines....

Gene, I'm serious - it's *electric*. Tim is sending me an electric Remington.

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On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:23:03 -0500, John H
wrote:

All goofing aside.... make SURE that your fuel is good...

this new ethanol based fuel is HELL on 2-cycle engines....

Gene, I'm serious - it's *electric*. Tim is sending me an electric Remington.

Ethanol is death on electric Remingtons. Be very careful. I've
always preferred Norelco myself.

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On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:37:10 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:23:03 -0500, John H
wrote:

All goofing aside.... make SURE that your fuel is good...

this new ethanol based fuel is HELL on 2-cycle engines....

Gene, I'm serious - it's *electric*. Tim is sending me an electric Remington.

Ethanol is death on electric Remingtons. Be very careful. I've
always preferred Norelco myself.

Now I know why the acronym 'FOAD' was developed!

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On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 11:16:29 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:37:10 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:23:03 -0500, John H
wrote:

All goofing aside.... make SURE that your fuel is good...

this new ethanol based fuel is HELL on 2-cycle engines....

Gene, I'm serious - it's *electric*. Tim is sending me an electric Remington.

Ethanol is death on electric Remingtons. Be very careful. I've
always preferred Norelco myself.

Now I know why the acronym 'FOAD' was developed!

So much for attempts at levity. :-)

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On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 13:16:16 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 11:16:29 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:37:10 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:23:03 -0500, John H
wrote:

All goofing aside.... make SURE that your fuel is good...

this new ethanol based fuel is HELL on 2-cycle engines....

Gene, I'm serious - it's *electric*. Tim is sending me an electric Remington.

Ethanol is death on electric Remingtons. Be very careful. I've
always preferred Norelco myself.

Now I know why the acronym 'FOAD' was developed!

So much for attempts at levity. :-)

I gotta admit you two had me going for a bit. :)

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On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 11:20:29 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:23:03 -0500, John H
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On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 20:55:50 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 19:59:21 -0500, John H
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On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:55:42 -0500, Gene
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On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:42:11 -0500, John H
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On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:01:24 -0500, Gene
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On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:06:10 -0500, Gene
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On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:42:52 -0500, John H
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I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

It can't.... unless it is fed by three times the voltage.....

Apparently, the Husqvarna is 1600 Watts.....

Divide 1600/746 and you have 2.14HP... and that is at 100% efficiency.

(746 Watts = 1 HP....)

The Poulan should be about the same.... the numbers are just
crazy....

Yup. And it's a mute point. I've got a Remington coming in the mail from
southern Illinois. Tim even cranked it up over the phone for me. The damn thing
sounded like an F-16 buzzing his shop. Now I've found the manual, so I can't
wait to get the thing.

You got screwed..... I'll bet you can't even find a place to plug it
in......

:-)

Nah, this'll be the best electric chainsaw I've got. You just watch!

All goofing aside.... make SURE that your fuel is good...

this new ethanol based fuel is HELL on 2-cycle engines....

Gene, I'm serious - it's *electric*. Tim is sending me an electric Remington.

And it sounds like an F-16??? Jeeze......!

He was cutting a 4x4 at the time.

How can this be? (Electrical Question)
 

John H wrote:
On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 20:55:50 -0500,
wrote:


On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 19:59:21 -0500, John
wrote:


On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 18:55:42 -0500,
wrote:


On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:42:11 -0500, John
wrote:


On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:01:24 -0500,
wrote:


On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 16:06:10 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:42:52 -0500, John
wrote:


I'm looking at electrical chain saws, a Poulan and a Husqvarna.

Brand Poulan Husqvarna
Item Number 118147 328965
Bar Length (Inches) 16.0 14.0
Amps (Amps) 13.5 13.5 Horsepower (HP)
3.5 9.7

They are both 13.5 Amp saws, but the Husqvarna gets almost three times the
horsepower of the Poulan. How is this possible?

Also, the Poulan costs about $75, the Husqvarna about $270.

It can't.... unless it is fed by three times the voltage.....

Apparently, the Husqvarna is 1600 Watts.....

Divide 1600/746 and you have 2.14HP... and that is at 100% efficiency.

(746 Watts = 1 HP....)

The Poulan should be about the same.... the numbers are just
crazy....

Yup. And it's a mute point. I've got a Remington coming in the mail from
southern Illinois. Tim even cranked it up over the phone for me. The damn thing
sounded like an F-16 buzzing his shop. Now I've found the manual, so I can't
wait to get the thing.

You got screwed..... I'll bet you can't even find a place to plug it
in......

:-)

Nah, this'll be the best electric chainsaw I've got. You just watch!

All goofing aside.... make SURE that your fuel is good...

this new ethanol based fuel is HELL on 2-cycle engines....

Gene, I'm serious - it's *electric*. Tim is sending me an electric Remington.

I think they went out of business. The chains should be easy to get.
The bar and other parts may be tough. Sounds like the price was right!

How can this be? (Electrical Question)
 

On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 22:27:37 -0500, L G wrote:

John H wrote:
On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 20:55:50 -0500,
wrote:


Nah, this'll be the best electric chainsaw I've got. You just watch!

All goofing aside.... make SURE that your fuel is good...

this new ethanol based fuel is HELL on 2-cycle engines....

Gene, I'm serious - it's *electric*. Tim is sending me an electric Remington.

I think they went out of business. The chains should be easy to get.
The bar and other parts may be tough. Sounds like the price was right!

They're still in business.

Price sounds good!!

How can this be? (Electrical Question)
 

John H wrote:
On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 22:27:37 -0500, L wrote:


John H wrote:

On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 20:55:50 -0500,
wrote:



Nah, this'll be the best electric chainsaw I've got. You just watch!


All goofing aside.... make SURE that your fuel is good...

this new ethanol based fuel is HELL on 2-cycle engines....


Gene, I'm serious - it's *electric*. Tim is sending me an electric Remington.


I think they went out of business. The chains should be easy to get.
The bar and other parts may be tough. Sounds like the price was right!

They're still in business.

Price sounds good!!

You're right. They were resurrected by MTD and it looks like the
pre-2009 parts will be available for a while.

http://www.remingtonchainsaw.com/