Dinghy experiment #5
 

The nesting dinghy was a PITA that constantly snagged jib sheets and
filled with water when towed. So, I gave it away.
So, next experiment, an 8' Porta-Bote I am looking at on Craigslist
and will get a 2.5 hp motor for.

So far I have tried:

an 8' Nautilus dinghy--------Far too heavy. Gave it away
a Sevylor inflatable. It was crap
an inflatable kayak. It was crap but wore it out.
the nesting 2-Paw-9 dinghy, home built. Snags sheets and does not
tow well. Gave it away.

Dinghy experiment #5
 

On Jan 16, 4:47*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
The nesting dinghy was a PITA that constantly snagged jib sheets and
filled with water when towed. *So, I gave it away.
So, next experiment, an 8' Porta-Bote I am looking at on Craigslist
and will get a 2.5 hp motor for.

So far I have tried:

an 8' Nautilus dinghy--------Far too heavy. *Gave it away
a Sevylor inflatable. * It was crap
an inflatable kayak. *It was crap but wore it out.
the nesting 2-Paw-9 dinghy, home built. * * Snags sheets and does not
tow well. *Gave it away.

Why didn't you tie them altogether and make a raft?

?;^ )

Dinghy experiment #5
 

On 1/16/11 5:47 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
The nesting dinghy was a PITA that constantly snagged jib sheets and
filled with water when towed. So, I gave it away.
So, next experiment, an 8' Porta-Bote I am looking at on Craigslist
and will get a 2.5 hp motor for.

So far I have tried:

an 8' Nautilus dinghy--------Far too heavy. Gave it away
a Sevylor inflatable. It was crap
an inflatable kayak. It was crap but wore it out.
the nesting 2-Paw-9 dinghy, home built. Snags sheets and does not
tow well. Gave it away.


Well, you could always get yourself a proper dinghy. Of course, I don't
know what you mean by too heavy. The Dyer Dhow weighs about 100 pounds,
and is about as nice a hard-sided dink you can get.

http://www.dyerboats.com/dyer_dhow.html


They've been around a long, long time.

Dinghy experiment #5
 

On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:53:37 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

On 1/16/11 5:47 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
The nesting dinghy was a PITA that constantly snagged jib sheets and
filled with water when towed. So, I gave it away.
So, next experiment, an 8' Porta-Bote I am looking at on Craigslist
and will get a 2.5 hp motor for.

So far I have tried:

an 8' Nautilus dinghy--------Far too heavy. Gave it away
a Sevylor inflatable. It was crap
an inflatable kayak. It was crap but wore it out.
the nesting 2-Paw-9 dinghy, home built. Snags sheets and does not
tow well. Gave it away.


Well, you could always get yourself a proper dinghy. Of course, I don't
know what you mean by too heavy. The Dyer Dhow weighs about 100 pounds,
and is about as nice a hard-sided dink you can get.

http://www.dyerboats.com/dyer_dhow.html


They've been around a long, long time.


We're down in Key West right now amidst a rather eclectic collection
of serious cruisers and liveaboards. The dinghy choice seems to be
evenly split between RIBs in the 10 to 12 ft range and ratty old
Carolina Skiffs of about 12 to 13 ft. The liveaboards mostly favor
the ratty skiffs.

In addition to a couple of RIBs (carrying only one), we also own an
old inflatable Avon with the roll up aluminum floor and hard transom.
The roll up Avon gave us a lot of good service aboard several
different sailboats. We also took it on a lot of road trips in the
back of a Dodge caravan. With a 15 horse Merc it will plane 3 or 4
people.

Dinghy experiment #5
 

On Jan 16, 4:53*pm, Harryk wrote:
On 1/16/11 5:47 PM, Frogwatch wrote:

The nesting dinghy was a PITA that constantly snagged jib sheets and
filled with water when towed. *So, I gave it away.
So, next experiment, an 8' Porta-Bote I am looking at on Craigslist
and will get a 2.5 hp motor for.

So far I have tried:

an 8' Nautilus dinghy--------Far too heavy. *Gave it away
a Sevylor inflatable. * It was crap
an inflatable kayak. *It was crap but wore it out.
the nesting 2-Paw-9 dinghy, home built. * * Snags sheets and does not
tow well. *Gave it away.

Well, you could always get yourself a proper dinghy. Of course, I don't
know what you mean by too heavy. The Dyer Dhow weighs about 100 pounds,
and is about as nice a hard-sided dink you can get.

http://www.dyerboats.com/dyer_dhow.html

They've been around a long, long time.

I've never been any kind of a blow boater, but that little thing looks
like it could be a lot of fun in the right conditions, of course.

Dinghy experiment #5
 

On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:27:51 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Well, you could always get yourself a proper dinghy. Of course, I don't
know what you mean by too heavy. The Dyer Dhow weighs about 100 pounds,
and is about as nice a hard-sided dink you can get.

http://www.dyerboats.com/dyer_dhow.html

They've been around a long, long time.

I've never been any kind of a blow boater, but that little thing looks
like it could be a lot of fun in the right conditions, of course.

They have been around a long time, and they do look good. In my
opinion however they are a bit too small for a full sized adult, and
don't really sail all that well.

Dinghy experiment #5
 

On Jan 16, 7:34*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:27:51 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Well, you could always get yourself a proper dinghy. Of course, I don't
know what you mean by too heavy. The Dyer Dhow weighs about 100 pounds,
and is about as nice a hard-sided dink you can get.

http://www.dyerboats.com/dyer_dhow.html

They've been around a long, long time.

I've never been any kind of a blow boater, but that little thing looks
like it could be a lot of fun in the right conditions, of course.

They have been around a long time, and they do look good. *In my
opinion however they are a bit too small for a full sized adult, and
don't really sail all that well.

Of course, with my skills maybe that's just what I'd need.

?;^ )

Dinghy experiment #5
 

On Jan 16, 7:22*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:53:37 -0500, Harryk
wrote:



On 1/16/11 5:47 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
The nesting dinghy was a PITA that constantly snagged jib sheets and
filled with water when towed. *So, I gave it away.
So, next experiment, an 8' Porta-Bote I am looking at on Craigslist
and will get a 2.5 hp motor for.

So far I have tried:

an 8' Nautilus dinghy--------Far too heavy. *Gave it away
a Sevylor inflatable. * It was crap
an inflatable kayak. *It was crap but wore it out.
the nesting 2-Paw-9 dinghy, home built. * * Snags sheets and does not
tow well. *Gave it away.

Well, you could always get yourself a proper dinghy. Of course, I don't
know what you mean by too heavy. The Dyer Dhow weighs about 100 pounds,
and is about as nice a hard-sided dink you can get.

http://www.dyerboats.com/dyer_dhow.html

They've been around a long, long time.

We're down in Key West right now amidst a rather eclectic collection
of serious cruisers and liveaboards. * The dinghy choice seems to be
evenly split between RIBs in the 10 to 12 ft range and ratty old
Carolina Skiffs of about 12 to 13 ft. * The liveaboards mostly favor
the ratty skiffs.

In addition to a couple of RIBs (carrying only one), we also own an
old inflatable Avon with the roll up aluminum floor and hard transom.
The roll up Avon gave us a lot of good service aboard several
different sailboats. *We also took it on a lot of road trips in the
back of a Dodge caravan. *With a 15 horse Merc it will plane 3 or 4
people.

Wayne i was going to suggest jsut something like that for Frog's use.
Of course I dont' knwo the situation but with all his experimenting,
would it be practical to carry a flattened inflatable, and a battery
operated electric ( or even a manual) air pump and inflate it when
necessary? I'd think it would beat having the thing inflated and
getting in the way of things

Dinghy experiment #5
 

On Jan 16, 8:15*pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article 4beef925-58c7-42d2-9e17-
, says...





On Jan 16, 7:22*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:53:37 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

On 1/16/11 5:47 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
The nesting dinghy was a PITA that constantly snagged jib sheets and
filled with water when towed. *So, I gave it away.
So, next experiment, an 8' Porta-Bote I am looking at on Craigslist
and will get a 2.5 hp motor for.

So far I have tried:

an 8' Nautilus dinghy--------Far too heavy. *Gave it away
a Sevylor inflatable. * It was crap
an inflatable kayak. *It was crap but wore it out.
the nesting 2-Paw-9 dinghy, home built. * * Snags sheets and does not
tow well. *Gave it away.

Well, you could always get yourself a proper dinghy. Of course, I don't
know what you mean by too heavy. The Dyer Dhow weighs about 100 pounds,
and is about as nice a hard-sided dink you can get.

http://www.dyerboats.com/dyer_dhow.html

They've been around a long, long time.

We're down in Key West right now amidst a rather eclectic collection
of serious cruisers and liveaboards. * The dinghy choice seems to be
evenly split between RIBs in the 10 to 12 ft range and ratty old
Carolina Skiffs of about 12 to 13 ft. * The liveaboards mostly favor
the ratty skiffs.

In addition to a couple of RIBs (carrying only one), we also own an
old inflatable Avon with the roll up aluminum floor and hard transom.
The roll up Avon gave us a lot of good service aboard several
different sailboats. *We also took it on a lot of road trips in the
back of a Dodge caravan. *With a 15 horse Merc it will plane 3 or 4
people.

Wayne i was going to suggest jsut something like that for Frog's use.
Of course I dont' knwo the situation but with all his experimenting,
would it be practical to carry a flattened *inflatable, and a battery
operated electric ( or even a manual) air pump and inflate it when
necessary? *I'd think it would beat having the thing inflated and
getting in the way of things

I keep a lung backup, but for inflatables I have an Ozark Mtn. electric
pump for my Matresses. They plug in to the wall or car, and recharge off
them. The thing will run for a half hour or more on a charge. They are
small, about the size of a big camera, and store easily... It would
probably blow up an Avon twice on one good charge...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!

That's kinda what i was thinking.

Dinghy experiment #5
 

On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:06:48 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Wayne i was going to suggest jsut something like that for Frog's use.
Of course I dont' knwo the situation but with all his experimenting,
would it be practical to carry a flattened inflatable, and a battery
operated electric ( or even a manual) air pump and inflate it when
necessary? I'd think it would beat having the thing inflated and
getting in the way of things

On balance I think that carrying a deflated inflatable is the best
answer for boats in his size range. The only real downside is that
they don't row very well. The manual foot pumps that are normally
supplied are usually very efficient - no real need for electric unless
you are in a huge rush.

Dinghy experiment #5
 

On Jan 16, 9:07*pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...





On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:06:48 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Wayne i was going to suggest jsut something like that for Frog's use.
Of course I dont' knwo the situation but with all his experimenting,
would it be practical to carry a flattened *inflatable, and a battery
operated electric ( or even a manual) air pump and inflate it when
necessary? *I'd think it would beat having the thing inflated and
getting in the way of things

On balance I think that carrying a deflated inflatable is the best
answer for boats in his size range. *The only real downside is that
they don't row very well. *The manual foot pumps that are normally
supplied are usually very efficient - no real need for electric unless
you are in a huge rush.

Yeah, I carry the electric because it came with a big air mattress. And
being rechargeable, it's real convenient camping...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!

yeabutt... does it row very well???

Dinghy experiment #5
 

On Jan 16, 10:09*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jan 16, 9:07*pm, I am Tosk wrote:



In article ,
says...

On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:06:48 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Wayne i was going to suggest jsut something like that for Frog's use..
Of course I dont' knwo the situation but with all his experimenting,
would it be practical to carry a flattened *inflatable, and a battery
operated electric ( or even a manual) air pump and inflate it when
necessary? *I'd think it would beat having the thing inflated and
getting in the way of things

On balance I think that carrying a deflated inflatable is the best
answer for boats in his size range. *The only real downside is that
they don't row very well. *The manual foot pumps that are normally
supplied are usually very efficient - no real need for electric unless
you are in a huge rush.

Yeah, I carry the electric because it came with a big air mattress. And
being rechargeable, it's real convenient camping...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!

yeabutt... does it row very well???

Wife wonders, "When are you going to just buy one of those inflatable
ones and get a motor". Snarky answer is: "Too obvious and too
easy". Real reason is that I hate towing a dinghy and deflating an
inflatable is such a PITA. However, I do see a good inflatable as
Experiment #6 if #5 fails.

Dinghy experiment #5
 

On Jan 16, 11:07*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jan 16, 10:09*pm, Tim wrote:



On Jan 16, 9:07*pm, I am Tosk wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:06:48 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Wayne i was going to suggest jsut something like that for Frog's use.
Of course I dont' knwo the situation but with all his experimenting,
would it be practical to carry a flattened *inflatable, and a battery
operated electric ( or even a manual) air pump and inflate it when
necessary? *I'd think it would beat having the thing inflated and
getting in the way of things

On balance I think that carrying a deflated inflatable is the best
answer for boats in his size range. *The only real downside is that
they don't row very well. *The manual foot pumps that are normally
supplied are usually very efficient - no real need for electric unless
you are in a huge rush.

Yeah, I carry the electric because it came with a big air mattress. And
being rechargeable, it's real convenient camping...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!

yeabutt... does it row very well???

Wife wonders, "When are you going to just buy one of those inflatable
ones and get a motor". *Snarky answer is: *"Too obvious and too
easy". *Real reason is that I hate towing a dinghy and deflating an
inflatable is such a PITA. *However, I do see a good inflatable as
Experiment #6 if #5 fails.

Something I really want to try is a "Tensile Boat" meaning a sort of
upside down tent shaped like a boat. It would be made from Tyvek with
a small rigid keel and would have fiberglass poles along the gunnel in
sleeves that meet at the bow and fit into the transom. Stiffening
ribs of fiberglass poles would fit into sleeves crossways and the seat
would also serve as part of the structure.The idea here is to make an
ultra-lightweight dinghy that can be easily stored, put together and
dis-assembled. I propose tyvek for its toughness and low cost so it
could easily be replaced. Tears could be temporarily fixed with duct
tape. There would have to be some sleeves to hold floatation material.

Dinghy experiment #5
 

On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 00:30:59 -0500, I am Tosk
wrote:

This guy really took it to a new level about a decade or so ago... I
also have an antique kayak that is all poles and sleeves, it breaks down
and carries in two backpacks...

Oh crap, forgot the website... Try this

http://www.gaboats.com/

Those are the old Platt Monfort designs. Very elegant and very light
but they do not disassemble and seem a bit fragile to my eye.

Dinghy experiment #5
 

On Jan 17, 6:38*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 00:30:59 -0500, I am Tosk

wrote:
This guy really took it to a new level about a decade or so ago... I
also have an antique kayak that is all poles and sleeves, it breaks down
and carries in two backpacks...

Oh crap, forgot the website... Try this

http://www.gaboats.com/

Those are the old Platt Monfort designs. *Very elegant and very light
but they do not disassemble and seem a bit fragile to my eye.

The problem with the Porta-Botes is that I want one with more capacity
than the 8' but less than the 10' which is why I built my 2-Paw Dinghy
as a 9' version. The 8' porta-bote has a capacity of 445lbs. With a
lightweight Suzuki 2.5 hp at 29 lbs, that leaves 416 lbs. I weigh 187
lbs leaving 229 lbs. Wife weighs 130 leaving 99 lbs. One teenager
weighs..........
Am I being too pedantic about this? Would it be really bad to
overload one by 30 lbs for a 2 minute ride in chop?