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On Dec 17, 10:44*am, Gene wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:06:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: And the Rooskys never got to use it. man that's some boat! http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2...12/ekranoplan/ Well, it *did* "fly!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUTWWsh6iGA -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. *-Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage *http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Fort Agent 6.00 Build 1186 The one in the vid has a traditional (I suppsose) "bow" Where the one dry docked has a nose similar to a large passenger jet, (sort of) Wow, it was fast, but all in all what use would it have been? any jet fighter could take it out. |
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On Dec 17, 1:34*pm, BAR wrote:
In article 5188c690-d269-4845-b894-6c8bd6533388 @l8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 17, 10:44 am, Gene wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:06:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: And the Rooskys never got to use it. man that's some boat! http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2...12/ekranoplan/ Well, it *did* "fly!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUTWWsh6iGA -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. -Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Fort Agent 6.00 Build 1186 The one in the vid has a traditional (I suppsose) "bow" *Where the one dry docked has a nose similar to a large passenger jet, (sort of) Wow, it was fast, but all in all what use would it have been? any jet fighter could take it out. They were envisioned as short distance troop transports, on the black sea and the caspian sea. They were never intended to traverse open ocean. * Yes, i saw that, and it also said it could carry missles i take it for close shore attack, but still. a jet fighter could take it out. man that's still a hunk of boat though. |
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@w29g2000vba.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 17, 1:34*pm, BAR wrote: In article 5188c690-d269-4845-b894-6c8bd6533388 @l8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 17, 10:44 am, Gene wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:06:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: And the Rooskys never got to use it. man that's some boat! http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2...12/ekranoplan/ Well, it *did* "fly!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUTWWsh6iGA -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. -Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Fort Agent 6.00 Build 1186 The one in the vid has a traditional (I suppsose) "bow" *Where the one dry docked has a nose similar to a large passenger jet, (sort of) Wow, it was fast, but all in all what use would it have been? any jet fighter could take it out. They were envisioned as short distance troop transports, on the black sea and the caspian sea. They were never intended to traverse open ocean. * Yes, i saw that, and it also said it could carry missles i take it for close shore attack, but still. a jet fighter could take it out. man that's still a hunk of boat though. If your transport aircraft keep falling out of the sky, just keep them closer to the earth, over water and put a boat hull on the bottom. |
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On Dec 17, 6:58*pm, BAR wrote:
In article 977cdad7-d266-43d1-ba82-7ea4cfc425e9 @w29g2000vba.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 17, 1:34*pm, BAR wrote: In article 5188c690-d269-4845-b894-6c8bd6533388 @l8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 17, 10:44 am, Gene wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:06:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: And the Rooskys never got to use it. man that's some boat! http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2...12/ekranoplan/ Well, it *did* "fly!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUTWWsh6iGA -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. -Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Fort Agent 6.00 Build 1186 The one in the vid has a traditional (I suppsose) "bow" *Where the one dry docked has a nose similar to a large passenger jet, (sort of) Wow, it was fast, but all in all what use would it have been? any jet fighter could take it out. They were envisioned as short distance troop transports, on the black sea and the caspian sea. They were never intended to traverse open ocean. * Yes, i saw that, and it also said it could carry missles i take it for close shore attack, but still. a jet fighter could take it out. man that's still a hunk of boat though. If your transport aircraft keep falling out of the sky, just keep them closer to the earth, over water and put a boat hull on the bottom. Y'know. that more I studied that thing, it was really quite a machine. Could travel at 300+ mph hovering over the water, below radar. Could carry 140+ troops and a variation of munitions, stable, and very fuel efficient. Wow! |
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... On Dec 17, 1:34 pm, BAR wrote: In article 5188c690-d269-4845-b894-6c8bd6533388 @l8g2000yqh.googlegroups.com, says... On Dec 17, 10:44 am, Gene wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:06:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: And the Rooskys never got to use it. man that's some boat! http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2...12/ekranoplan/ Well, it *did* "fly!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUTWWsh6iGA -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. -Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Fort Agent 6.00 Build 1186 The one in the vid has a traditional (I suppsose) "bow" Where the one dry docked has a nose similar to a large passenger jet, (sort of) Wow, it was fast, but all in all what use would it have been? any jet fighter could take it out. They were envisioned as short distance troop transports, on the black sea and the caspian sea. They were never intended to traverse open ocean. Yes, i saw that, and it also said it could carry missles i take it for close shore attack, but still. a jet fighter could take it out. man that's still a hunk of boat though. But the thinking was it would carry large loads at a really fast speed and travel below most radar. So they were ashore with troops and equipment before they could normally be expected to arrive and attack. |
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:06:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
And the Rooskys never got to use it. man that's some boat! http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2...12/ekranoplan/ I hate to say it, and it's probably racist, but it sure does look like something designed by the Russians. |
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On Dec 24, 1:47*pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:06:29 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: And the Rooskys never got to use it. man that's some boat! http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2...12/ekranoplan/ I hate to say it, and it's probably racist, but it sure does look like something designed by the Russians. Y'know. you look at 'most' of the ordanance and military equipment the Rooskies bu,ilt well...they were ugly and crude, but usually v-e-r-r-r- r-y efficient! |
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On 12/24/10 6:18 PM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 24, 1:47 pm, John wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:06:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: And the Rooskys never got to use it. man that's some boat! http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2...12/ekranoplan/ I hate to say it, and it's probably racist, but it sure does look like something designed by the Russians. Y'know. you look at 'most' of the ordanance and military equipment the Rooskies bu,ilt well...they were ugly and crude, but usually v-e-r-r-r- r-y efficient! Some military equipment designed during the time of and in the Soviet empire (and that includes all those countries the Sovs took over) was quite elegant, if simple, in design. Česká zbrojovka Uherský Brod (CZ), the Czech small arms conglomerate built and still builds some physically attractive and very efficient weapons. I have a CZ pistol and it is the equal in every way of the high-end Sig target pistol I used to own. It isn't stainless steel, like the Sig, but it is beautifully finished *and* out of the box, it fires faster and is slightly more accurate. I've been thinking of getting a .45 ACP pistol; there are many brands, including American brands, from which to choose. CZ makes a very nice one, and it is on my list to consider. I've seen and handled other Czech small arms. Many of them are very impressive. The former Sov states, even when they were Sov states, were innovative in design and manufacture of pistols, rifles, shotguns, et cetera. |
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@mypacks.net says... On 12/24/10 6:18 PM, Tim wrote: On Dec 24, 1:47 pm, John wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:06:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: And the Rooskys never got to use it. man that's some boat! http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2...12/ekranoplan/ I hate to say it, and it's probably racist, but it sure does look like something designed by the Russians. Y'know. you look at 'most' of the ordanance and military equipment the Rooskies bu,ilt well...they were ugly and crude, but usually v-e-r-r-r- r-y efficient! Some military equipment designed during the time of and in the Soviet empire (and that includes all those countries the Sovs took over) was quite elegant, if simple, in design. Most of it was based upon US acquired Hardware. Ceská zbrojovka Uherský Brod (CZ), the Czech small arms conglomerate built and still builds some physically attractive and very efficient weapons. I have a CZ pistol and it is the equal in every way of the high-end Sig target pistol I used to own. It isn't stainless steel, like the Sig, but it is beautifully finished *and* out of the box, it fires faster and is slightly more accurate. I've been thinking of getting a .45 ACP pistol; there are many brands, including American brands, from which to choose. CZ makes a very nice one, and it is on my list to consider. I've seen and handled other Czech small arms. Many of them are very impressive. The former Sov states, even when they were Sov states, were innovative in design and manufacture of pistols, rifles, shotguns, et cetera. Some believe that China has an impressive arms development capability. However, when you dig under the surface you soon find out that most of their arms are just duplicates of licensed copies of Soviet "designs." |
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On 12/25/10 8:05 AM, BAR wrote:
In articledfidnSFfauylsIjQnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 12/24/10 6:18 PM, Tim wrote: On Dec 24, 1:47 pm, John wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:06:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: And the Rooskys never got to use it. man that's some boat! http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2...12/ekranoplan/ I hate to say it, and it's probably racist, but it sure does look like something designed by the Russians. Y'know. you look at 'most' of the ordanance and military equipment the Rooskies bu,ilt well...they were ugly and crude, but usually v-e-r-r-r- r-y efficient! Some military equipment designed during the time of and in the Soviet empire (and that includes all those countries the Sovs took over) was quite elegant, if simple, in design. Most of it was based upon US acquired Hardware. Ceská zbrojovka Uherský Brod (CZ), the Czech small arms conglomerate built and still builds some physically attractive and very efficient weapons. I have a CZ pistol and it is the equal in every way of the high-end Sig target pistol I used to own. It isn't stainless steel, like the Sig, but it is beautifully finished *and* out of the box, it fires faster and is slightly more accurate. I've been thinking of getting a .45 ACP pistol; there are many brands, including American brands, from which to choose. CZ makes a very nice one, and it is on my list to consider. I've seen and handled other Czech small arms. Many of them are very impressive. The former Sov states, even when they were Sov states, were innovative in design and manufacture of pistols, rifles, shotguns, et cetera. Some believe that China has an impressive arms development capability. However, when you dig under the surface you soon find out that most of their arms are just duplicates of licensed copies of Soviet "designs." I know next to nothing about China's arms development capability. I have fired a couple of *real* and old AK-47's made in the PRC and while they were not works of art, they certainly fired properly. I can't say the same for a couple of old M16's I got to fire. But I wouldn't judge one against the other on the basis of the well-used samples I fired. |
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@mypacks.net says... On 12/24/10 6:18 PM, Tim wrote: On Dec 24, 1:47 pm, John wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:06:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: And the Rooskys never got to use it. man that's some boat! http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2...12/ekranoplan/ I hate to say it, and it's probably racist, but it sure does look like something designed by the Russians. Y'know. you look at 'most' of the ordanance and military equipment the Rooskies bu,ilt well...they were ugly and crude, but usually v-e-r-r-r- r-y efficient! Some military equipment designed during the time of and in the Soviet empire (and that includes all those countries the Sovs took over) was quite elegant, if simple, in design. Ceská zbrojovka Uherský Brod (CZ), the Czech small arms conglomerate built and still builds some physically attractive and very efficient weapons. I have a CZ pistol and it is the equal in every way of the high-end Sig target pistol I used to own. It isn't stainless steel, like the Sig, but it is beautifully finished *and* out of the box, it fires faster and is slightly more accurate. I've been thinking of getting a .45 ACP pistol; there are many brands, including American brands, from which to choose. CZ makes a very nice one, and it is on my list to consider. I've seen and handled other Czech small arms. Many of them are very impressive. The former Sov states, even when they were Sov states, were innovative in design and manufacture of pistols, rifles, shotguns, et cetera. That post tells quite a story. You take every opportunity to bash anyone or anything related to U.S. military, then extol the virtues of the Russian military. |
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... In article , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 12/24/10 6:18 PM, Tim wrote: On Dec 24, 1:47 pm, John wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:06:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: And the Rooskys never got to use it. man that's some boat! http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2...12/ekranoplan/ I hate to say it, and it's probably racist, but it sure does look like something designed by the Russians. Y'know. you look at 'most' of the ordanance and military equipment the Rooskies bu,ilt well...they were ugly and crude, but usually v-e-r-r-r- r-y efficient! Some military equipment designed during the time of and in the Soviet empire (and that includes all those countries the Sovs took over) was quite elegant, if simple, in design. Ceská zbrojovka Uherský Brod (CZ), the Czech small arms conglomerate built and still builds some physically attractive and very efficient weapons. I have a CZ pistol and it is the equal in every way of the high-end Sig target pistol I used to own. It isn't stainless steel, like the Sig, but it is beautifully finished *and* out of the box, it fires faster and is slightly more accurate. I've been thinking of getting a .45 ACP pistol; there are many brands, including American brands, from which to choose. CZ makes a very nice one, and it is on my list to consider. I've seen and handled other Czech small arms. Many of them are very impressive. The former Sov states, even when they were Sov states, were innovative in design and manufacture of pistols, rifles, shotguns, et cetera. That post tells quite a story. You take every opportunity to bash anyone or anything related to U.S. military, then extol the virtues of the Russian military. The Russians actually had some great ideas about weapons systems. Their jets, weapons, etc. were built for harsh conditions and poorly trained technicians with lack of spare parts. And the AK-47 is a derivative of the German MP40 machine pistol. |
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On 12/25/10 5:02 PM, Califbill wrote:
"HarryK" wrote in message ... In article , payer3389 @mypacks.net says... On 12/24/10 6:18 PM, Tim wrote: On Dec 24, 1:47 pm, John wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:06:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: And the Rooskys never got to use it. man that's some boat! http://englishrussia.com/index.php/2...12/ekranoplan/ I hate to say it, and it's probably racist, but it sure does look like something designed by the Russians. Y'know. you look at 'most' of the ordanance and military equipment the Rooskies bu,ilt well...they were ugly and crude, but usually v-e-r-r-r- r-y efficient! Some military equipment designed during the time of and in the Soviet empire (and that includes all those countries the Sovs took over) was quite elegant, if simple, in design. Ceská zbrojovka Uherský Brod (CZ), the Czech small arms conglomerate built and still builds some physically attractive and very efficient weapons. I have a CZ pistol and it is the equal in every way of the high-end Sig target pistol I used to own. It isn't stainless steel, like the Sig, but it is beautifully finished *and* out of the box, it fires faster and is slightly more accurate. I've been thinking of getting a .45 ACP pistol; there are many brands, including American brands, from which to choose. CZ makes a very nice one, and it is on my list to consider. I've seen and handled other Czech small arms. Many of them are very impressive. The former Sov states, even when they were Sov states, were innovative in design and manufacture of pistols, rifles, shotguns, et cetera. That post tells quite a story. You take every opportunity to bash anyone or anything related to U.S. military, then extol the virtues of the Russian military. The Russians actually had some great ideas about weapons systems. Their jets, weapons, etc. were built for harsh conditions and poorly trained technicians with lack of spare parts. And the AK-47 is a derivative of the German MP40 machine pistol. I know a bit about the Russians' small arms, but next to nothing about their larger weapons systems. I wonder who made the comment about what he believes is my "admiration" for the Russian military, since I said nothing about it, and commented specifically only about the Czech small arms marketed under the "CZ" name. Well, this isn't a newsgroup known for careful readers or educated readers. I suppose to those folks. the "former Sov states" means Russian military, |
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On 12/25/10 7:24 PM, BAR wrote:
In , says... That post tells quite a story. You take every opportunity to bash anyone or anything related to U.S. military, then extol the virtues of the Russian military. The Russians actually had some great ideas about weapons systems. Their jets, weapons, etc. were built for harsh conditions and poorly trained technicians with lack of spare parts. And the AK-47 is a derivative of the German MP40 machine pistol. I know a bit about the Russians' small arms, but next to nothing about their larger weapons systems. I wonder who made the comment about what he believes is my "admiration" for the Russian military, since I said nothing about it, and commented specifically only about the Czech small arms marketed under the "CZ" name. Well, this isn't a newsgroup known for careful readers or educated readers. I suppose to those folks. the "former Sov states" means Russian military, You really haven't got a clue as to how the Russian's operated through the cold war. OK...fill us in...how during the cold war did the Russian military impact on the design and manufacture of the CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow, which is what my CZ is based upon, and its predecessors. Be specific. Thanks. |
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