Crossed docklines
 

Harry remarked about making sure your dock lines are crossed in my
prev post about "tideminders" and this struck me and I thought about
it a bit. Without "Tideminders", I would agree because this allows
more stretch of the lines but with Tideminders, you do not want
stretch.
Yes, Crossed lines look more professional but in this case I think
they defeat the purpose fo the Tideminders.
I am still envious of the person who thought of the Tideminders.

Crossed docklines
 

On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:21:11 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Harry remarked about making sure your dock lines are crossed in my
prev post about "tideminders" and this struck me and I thought about
it a bit. Without "Tideminders", I would agree because this allows
more stretch of the lines but with Tideminders, you do not want
stretch.
Yes, Crossed lines look more professional but in this case I think
they defeat the purpose fo the Tideminders.

Not really. Crossed lines improve the geometry in either case
because they lengthen the lines which allows for more vertical rise
and fall for any given line tension (the spring line concept). This
effect is more pronounced on powerboats with wide transoms but it
still applies to sailboats also.

Crossed docklines
 

On 10/27/2010 10:21 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
Harry remarked about making sure your dock lines are crossed in my
prev post about "tideminders" and this struck me and I thought about
it a bit. Without "Tideminders", I would agree because this allows
more stretch of the lines but with Tideminders, you do not want
stretch.
Yes, Crossed lines look more professional but in this case I think
they defeat the purpose fo the Tideminders.
I am still envious of the person who thought of the Tideminders.

My bow and stern lines are crossed, too. They're not that way because
they allow more stretch; they're there to position the boat in the
center of the slip.

Crossed docklines
 

On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:39:50 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

On 10/27/2010 10:21 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
Harry remarked about making sure your dock lines are crossed in my
prev post about "tideminders" and this struck me and I thought about
it a bit. Without "Tideminders", I would agree because this allows
more stretch of the lines but with Tideminders, you do not want
stretch.
Yes, Crossed lines look more professional but in this case I think
they defeat the purpose fo the Tideminders.
I am still envious of the person who thought of the Tideminders.

My bow and stern lines are crossed, too. They're not that way because
they allow more stretch; they're there to position the boat in the
center of the slip.

Wouldn't you be better off with actual spring lines?
--
Nom=de=Plume

Crossed docklines
 

On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:39:50 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

On 10/27/2010 10:21 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
Harry remarked about making sure your dock lines are crossed in my
prev post about "tideminders" and this struck me and I thought about
it a bit. Without "Tideminders", I would agree because this allows
more stretch of the lines but with Tideminders, you do not want
stretch.
Yes, Crossed lines look more professional but in this case I think
they defeat the purpose fo the Tideminders.
I am still envious of the person who thought of the Tideminders.

My bow and stern lines are crossed, too. They're not that way because
they allow more stretch; they're there to position the boat in the
center of the slip.

Paul, do you get your EMAIL via Branford YC ?

Crossed docklines
 

On 10/27/2010 6:04 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:39:50 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

On 10/27/2010 10:21 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
Harry remarked about making sure your dock lines are crossed in my
prev post about "tideminders" and this struck me and I thought about
it a bit. Without "Tideminders", I would agree because this allows
more stretch of the lines but with Tideminders, you do not want
stretch.
Yes, Crossed lines look more professional but in this case I think
they defeat the purpose fo the Tideminders.
I am still envious of the person who thought of the Tideminders.

My bow and stern lines are crossed, too. They're not that way because
they allow more stretch; they're there to position the boat in the
center of the slip.

Paul, do you get your EMAIL via Branford YC ?


No, I get my professional email via the university and my messin' about
email at gmail.

Crossed docklines
 

"Paul@BYC" wrote in message
...
On 10/27/2010 10:21 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
Harry remarked about making sure your dock lines are crossed in my
prev post about "tideminders" and this struck me and I thought about
it a bit. Without "Tideminders", I would agree because this allows
more stretch of the lines but with Tideminders, you do not want
stretch.
Yes, Crossed lines look more professional but in this case I think
they defeat the purpose fo the Tideminders.
I am still envious of the person who thought of the Tideminders.

My bow and stern lines are crossed, too. They're not that way because they
allow more stretch; they're there to position the boat in the center of
the slip.


Do you have a cat or a pontoon? I'm trying to understand your statement.

Crossed docklines
 

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:39:50 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

On 10/27/2010 10:21 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
Harry remarked about making sure your dock lines are crossed in my
prev post about "tideminders" and this struck me and I thought about
it a bit. Without "Tideminders", I would agree because this allows
more stretch of the lines but with Tideminders, you do not want
stretch.
Yes, Crossed lines look more professional but in this case I think
they defeat the purpose fo the Tideminders.
I am still envious of the person who thought of the Tideminders.

My bow and stern lines are crossed, too. They're not that way because
they allow more stretch; they're there to position the boat in the
center of the slip.

Wouldn't you be better off with actual spring lines?
--
Nom=de=Plume



Instead of bow lines and stern lines?

Crossed docklines
 

On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:17:13 -0700, wrote:

My bow and stern lines are crossed, too. They're not that way because
they allow more stretch; they're there to position the boat in the
center of the slip.

Wouldn't you be better off with actual spring lines?

Did you ever buy that copy of Chapman's that I recommended?

http://www.amazon.com/Chapman-Piloti.../dp/1588167445

Crossed docklines
 

On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 00:05:06 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:17:13 -0700, wrote:

My bow and stern lines are crossed, too. They're not that way because
they allow more stretch; they're there to position the boat in the
center of the slip.

Wouldn't you be better off with actual spring lines?

Did you ever buy that copy of Chapman's that I recommended?

http://www.amazon.com/Chapman-Piloti.../dp/1588167445



I got Chapmans, the Annapolis Book of Seamanship, and Cruising
Fundamentals.

So, wouldn't the spring lines be the right way to go?
--
Nom=de=Plume

Crossed docklines
 

On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 21:38:17 -0700, wrote:

I got Chapmans, the Annapolis Book of Seamanship, and Cruising
Fundamentals.

So, wouldn't the spring lines be the right way to go?

Somewhere in Chapman's there should be a section on dock lines with
diagrams. Spring lines are used to control the boats fore and aft
position, and are usually long to allow the boat to rise and fall with
the tide while maintaining the same position laterally.

Crossed docklines
 

On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 01:05:31 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 21:38:17 -0700, wrote:

I got Chapmans, the Annapolis Book of Seamanship, and Cruising
Fundamentals.

So, wouldn't the spring lines be the right way to go?

Somewhere in Chapman's there should be a section on dock lines with
diagrams. Spring lines are used to control the boats fore and aft
position, and are usually long to allow the boat to rise and fall with
the tide while maintaining the same position laterally.

Ah... ok. I was thinking side to side. Dock lines on all "four"
corners, then spring lines so it doesn't run out the back or hit in
front.
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Nom=de=Plume