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John H[_2_] October 26th 10 12:54 PM

Inexpensive shrink wrapper (for herring)
 
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 16:24:10 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 10/25/10 4:07 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Oct 25, 3:56 pm, Secular wrote:
On 10/25/10 3:42 PM, wrote:





On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 14:01:29 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:

Great going guys!

Can peace in the middle east be far off ;-)

... or Pearl Harbor...snerk... ok, ok, I'll stop... ;)

I would really like to see the level of hostility dial down a notch or
two.
Everyone really seems to be pretty good people. We should be able to
be nicer to each other.

I guess I am starting to sound like Rodney King. ;-)

The troika of id spoofers is still active and hostile. Virtually
everyone else so far seems to be in a more hospitable mood.

Some people can control themselves and others...can't.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If you can't filter one guy, you are really not serious about this
stuff...



Why should ID spoofers and ID stealers be tolerated? And it's three, not
one, unless you have evidence it is one person doing it.


Whatever harry. Not to start, but..... you asking someone to stop
disrupting the group is about as credible as me or slammer asking the
same... We all have our history and at least one of us deserves all that
comes our way so how about we make a deal? You get back to grills, guns,
boats, and uh, fine entertainment, and we will get back to guitars,
dogs, horses, beer, movies, motorcycles, all the other **** you hate,
and sometimes even boats. BTW, I won't be responsible for the spoofers
the way you tried to dump it on Tim, and I won't ask you to be
responsible for bonnie, secord, and JPS... Just you and me, side deal,
bugger all else for now...What say you? Put up or shut up, and sig files
count, you in?

Tosk, "the hunted"...


You know what, Scotty? It would be damn nice if you'd just shut up for a while
and see how things go. You've made your point, over, and over, and over. You
obviously wish to continue with the rancor. To whose benefit is this?

Just cool it...please?
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H

John H[_2_] October 26th 10 12:57 PM

Inexpensive shrink wrapper (for herring)
 
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 19:07:17 -0400, Secular Humouresque wrote:

On 10/25/10 7:01 PM, Secular Humouresque wrote:


Well, on second thought that really wasn't honest. When you post
off-topic, it gives me an opportunity to accuse you of incest with your
daughter in a tent, call your business non-existent, accuse you of
stealing content from other people's web pages, accuse you of not paying
your medical bills, storing motorcycles in your kitchen, and a whole
assortment of other things. I'm sure you remember.

When you post off-topic with "OT:', well, I guess I do the same thing.

But now I am reformed. Really. I hope you don't view my reply as a
disruption to this newsgroup.


The ID Spoofer is still trying to stir up **** here. Almost everyone
else is working for a better newsgroup.


Please grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage
to change those I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

Ignore them. It will help your serenity.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H

John H[_2_] October 26th 10 01:10 PM

Inexpensive shrink wrapper (for herring)
 
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:58:30 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 10/25/10 10:04 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 16:30:02 -0400, Secular Humouresque
wrote:

For the record, I do not *hate* guitars, dogs, horses, beer, movies or
motorcycles. I have a guitar, I've had dogs, I've ridden horses, I go to
movies and I have a motorcycle.

But after all, it *is* a boating news group, and the farther we stray
from boats the worse the signal to noise ratio.


Exactly.... the more one person posts about their favourite past time... eg
motorcycle racing, the more others will be tempted to post about anything&
everything but boating.
Maybe that "over there" place could be reserved for all non-boating posts.

So it isn't ok to post about BBQ grills and such? I wish you guys would
get on the same page...



As long as civility is maintained, there is no need for everyone to be
on the same page or even in the same book. Some posters are very
concerned about OT posts, others are not. The "OT" in the subject line
is helpful. This newsgroup has problems a lot more serious than
discussions about BBQ grills or teenage motorcycle racing.


Then why have you always attacked my daughter and her sport with such
vulgarity?


Hey Scotty. Can you leave it?
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H

Secular Humouresque October 26th 10 01:32 PM

Inexpensive shrink wrapper (for herring)
 
On 10/26/10 8:26 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


You know what, Scotty? It would be damn nice if you'd just shut up for a while
and see how things go. You've made your point, over, and over, and over. You
obviously wish to continue with the rancor. To whose benefit is this?

Just cool it...please?


Just want to get the ****ing rules down John..


Let the ethic of reciprocity guide you:

Treat others the way you would like to be treated.

This is an unmoderated newsgroup. There are no rules but those you
impose on yourself or *agree* to follow.


Secular Humouresque October 26th 10 01:35 PM

Inexpensive shrink wrapper (for herring)
 
On 10/26/10 8:28 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:58:30 -0400, I am
wrote:

In article94qdnTajT8P5pFvRnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

On 10/25/10 10:04 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 16:30:02 -0400, Secular Humouresque
wrote:

For the record, I do not *hate* guitars, dogs, horses, beer, movies or
motorcycles. I have a guitar, I've had dogs, I've ridden horses, I go to
movies and I have a motorcycle.

But after all, it *is* a boating news group, and the farther we stray
from boats the worse the signal to noise ratio.


Exactly.... the more one person posts about their favourite past time... eg
motorcycle racing, the more others will be tempted to post about anything&
everything but boating.
Maybe that "over there" place could be reserved for all non-boating posts.

So it isn't ok to post about BBQ grills and such? I wish you guys would
get on the same page...



As long as civility is maintained, there is no need for everyone to be
on the same page or even in the same book. Some posters are very
concerned about OT posts, others are not. The "OT" in the subject line
is helpful. This newsgroup has problems a lot more serious than
discussions about BBQ grills or teenage motorcycle racing.

Then why have you always attacked my daughter and her sport with such
vulgarity?


Hey Scotty. Can you leave it?


are you gonna' attack every post I make now John? Ten years of having
every post I make ridiculed or attacked, and now you just want to make
nice. Fine, I joined in the BBQ thread and played nice last night, but
then the bull**** started up again, and you blame me? Fine...



Who started the "bull****" up again, Scotty? Certainly not me. I simply
*suggested* using OT on the subject line and noted that OT posts were
not as serious an issue as nastiness.

For the most part, it seems the "problems" now are being caused by the
ID spoofers and one or two posters who cannot seem to let go of the past
and practice self control.



Wayne.B October 26th 10 02:07 PM

Inexpensive shrink wrapper (for herring)
 
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 06:16:57 -0400, "Paul@BYC"
wrote:

I thought you were interested in making this a better place. Why respond
to those who want it to remain a pig-pen?


Good work Paul, I believe you are making a difference. With any luck
we might even be able to get back some of the folks who have left (and
there are many).


JustWaitAFrekinMinute! October 26th 10 02:17 PM

Inexpensive shrink wrapper (for herring)
 
On Oct 26, 8:35*am, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/26/10 8:28 AM, I am Tosk wrote:





In ,
says...


On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:58:30 -0400, I am
wrote:


In article94qdnTajT8P5pFvRnZ2dnUVZ_gedn...@earthlink .com,
says...


On 10/25/10 10:04 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


* wrote in message
news:r6rbc6lbopanemvta4m47fk58omqutnd9k@4ax. com...
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 16:30:02 -0400, Secular Humouresque
* wrote:


For the record, I do not *hate* guitars, dogs, horses, beer, movies or
motorcycles. I have a guitar, I've had dogs, I've ridden horses, I go to
movies and I have a motorcycle.


But after all, it *is* a boating news group, and the farther we stray
from boats the worse the signal to noise ratio.


Exactly.... the more one person posts about their favourite past time... eg
motorcycle racing, the more others will be tempted to post about anything&
everything but boating.
Maybe that "over there" place could be reserved for all non-boating posts.


So it isn't ok to post about BBQ grills and such? I wish you guys would
get on the same page...


As long as civility is maintained, there is no need for everyone to be
on the same page or even in the same book. Some posters are very
concerned about OT posts, others are not. The "OT" in the subject line
is helpful. This newsgroup has problems a lot more serious than
discussions about BBQ grills or teenage motorcycle racing.


Then why have you always attacked my daughter and her sport with such
vulgarity?


Hey Scotty. Can you leave it?


are you gonna' attack every post I make now John? Ten years of having
every post I make ridiculed or attacked, and now you just want to make
nice. Fine, I joined in the BBQ thread and played nice last night, but
then the bull**** started up again, and you blame me? Fine...


Who started the "bull****" up again, Scotty? Certainly not me. I simply
*suggested* using OT on the subject line and noted that OT posts were
not as serious an issue as nastiness.


You started it again, with your obvious troll post saying "I don't
mind posts about motorcycles...". The new folks might have missed it,
but everyone else here knows it was a not so clever troll post,
directed at me and my kid. You know as well as I that as little as two
weeks ago if I had posted a post about my kids racing, *you* and
Bonnie would immediately scream bloody murder about "kidde motorcycle
racing, sleeping with my kid, killing my dad, skipping out on bills,
not having a business... etc. etc. etc... So yeah Harry, you and I,
and everyone else here knows, "You stated up the bull**** again"...

Tell you what John, one of you more sane folks confirm this to the new
guy and I am done, will leave it alone...



For the most part, it seems the "problems" now are being caused by the
ID spoofers and one or two posters who cannot seem to let go of the past
and practice self control


Yeah, maybe it's easy for some to forget a decade of vulgar,
manipulative posts... But those of us on the recieving end might take
a bit longer... My daughter still talks about the things said about
her here.... Not to mention my wife.

Sooo, I will play nice, but a troll post is a troll post, no matter
how subtile...

Secular Humouresque[_2_] October 26th 10 02:57 PM

Inexpensive shrink wrapper (for herring)
 
On 10/26/10 9:17 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:


Who started the "bull****" up again, Scotty? Certainly not me. I simply
*suggested* using OT on the subject line and noted that OT posts were
not as serious an issue as nastiness.


You started it again, with your obvious troll post saying "I don't
mind posts about motorcycles...". The new folks might have missed it,
but everyone else here knows it was a not so clever troll post,
directed at me and my kid. You know as well as I that as little as two
weeks ago if I had posted a post about my kids racing, *you* and
Bonnie would immediately scream bloody murder about "kidde motorcycle
racing, sleeping with my kid, killing my dad, skipping out on bills,
not having a business... etc. etc. etc... So yeah Harry, you and I,
and everyone else here knows, "You stated up the bull**** again"...



It wasn't a troll post. You just misinterpreted it. I have suggested
using "OT" in the subject line, and I agree with those posters who have
reminded us that this is supposed to be a mostly boating related newsgroup.

Most of us are trying to keep this joint on an even keel. Those who post
here can be part of the solution or part of the problem. Your choice as
to where you want the newsgroup to go.

YukonBound October 26th 10 03:24 PM

Inexpensive shrink wrapper (for herring)
 


"Paul@BYC" wrote in message
...
On 10/25/2010 10:50 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In articleA7qdnaDUbeTVkVvRnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/25/10 4:24 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In article2JidnXRjvfjqeVjRnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

On 10/25/10 4:07 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Oct 25, 3:56 pm, Secular wrote:
On 10/25/10 3:42 PM, wrote:





On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 14:01:29 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote:

Great going guys!

Can peace in the middle east be far off ;-)

... or Pearl Harbor...snerk... ok, ok, I'll stop... ;)

I would really like to see the level of hostility dial down a
notch or
two.
Everyone really seems to be pretty good people. We should be able
to
be nicer to each other.

I guess I am starting to sound like Rodney King. ;-)

The troika of id spoofers is still active and hostile. Virtually
everyone else so far seems to be in a more hospitable mood.

Some people can control themselves and others...can't.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

If you can't filter one guy, you are really not serious about this
stuff...


Why should ID spoofers and ID stealers be tolerated? And it's three,
not
one, unless you have evidence it is one person doing it.

Whatever harry. Not to start, but..... you asking someone to stop
disrupting the group is about as credible as me or slammer asking the
same... We all have our history and at least one of us deserves all
that
comes our way so how about we make a deal? You get back to grills,
guns,
boats, and uh, fine entertainment, and we will get back to guitars,
dogs, horses, beer, movies, motorcycles, all the other **** you hate,
and sometimes even boats. BTW, I won't be responsible for the spoofers
the way you tried to dump it on Tim, and I won't ask you to be
responsible for bonnie, secord, and JPS... Just you and me, side deal,
bugger all else for now...What say you? Put up or shut up, and sig
files
count, you in?

Tosk, "the hunted"...


I told you already, I don't give a damn what you post about...

Well, on second thought that really wasn't honest. When you post
off-topic, it gives me an opportunity to accuse you of incest with your
daughter in a tent, call your business non-existent, accuse you of
stealing content from other people's web pages, accuse you of not paying
your medical bills, storing motorcycles in your kitchen, and a whole
assortment of other things. I'm sure you remember.

When you post off-topic with "OT:', well, I guess I do the same thing.

But now I am reformed. Really. I hope you don't view my reply as a
disruption to this newsgroup.


snerk too true to be funny...;)


Again, you are encouraging the pig-pen posters. Why?


The true bottom line is... some in here would rather fight than switch.


John H[_2_] October 26th 10 03:27 PM

Inexpensive shrink wrapper (for herring)
 
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 06:17:14 -0700 (PDT), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!"
wrote:

On Oct 26, 8:35*am, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/26/10 8:28 AM, I am Tosk wrote:





In ,
says...


On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 22:58:30 -0400, I am
wrote:


In article94qdnTajT8P5pFvRnZ2dnUVZ_gedn...@earthlink .com,
says...


On 10/25/10 10:04 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...


* wrote in message
news:r6rbc6lbopanemvta4m47fk58omqutnd9k@4ax. com...
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 16:30:02 -0400, Secular Humouresque
* wrote:


For the record, I do not *hate* guitars, dogs, horses, beer, movies or
motorcycles. I have a guitar, I've had dogs, I've ridden horses, I go to
movies and I have a motorcycle.


But after all, it *is* a boating news group, and the farther we stray
from boats the worse the signal to noise ratio.


Exactly.... the more one person posts about their favourite past time... eg
motorcycle racing, the more others will be tempted to post about anything&
everything but boating.
Maybe that "over there" place could be reserved for all non-boating posts.


So it isn't ok to post about BBQ grills and such? I wish you guys would
get on the same page...


As long as civility is maintained, there is no need for everyone to be
on the same page or even in the same book. Some posters are very
concerned about OT posts, others are not. The "OT" in the subject line
is helpful. This newsgroup has problems a lot more serious than
discussions about BBQ grills or teenage motorcycle racing.


Then why have you always attacked my daughter and her sport with such
vulgarity?


Hey Scotty. Can you leave it?


are you gonna' attack every post I make now John? Ten years of having
every post I make ridiculed or attacked, and now you just want to make
nice. Fine, I joined in the BBQ thread and played nice last night, but
then the bull**** started up again, and you blame me? Fine...


Who started the "bull****" up again, Scotty? Certainly not me. I simply
*suggested* using OT on the subject line and noted that OT posts were
not as serious an issue as nastiness.


You started it again, with your obvious troll post saying "I don't
mind posts about motorcycles...". The new folks might have missed it,
but everyone else here knows it was a not so clever troll post,
directed at me and my kid. You know as well as I that as little as two
weeks ago if I had posted a post about my kids racing, *you* and
Bonnie would immediately scream bloody murder about "kidde motorcycle
racing, sleeping with my kid, killing my dad, skipping out on bills,
not having a business... etc. etc. etc... So yeah Harry, you and I,
and everyone else here knows, "You stated up the bull**** again"...

Tell you what John, one of you more sane folks confirm this to the new
guy and I am done, will leave it alone...



For the most part, it seems the "problems" now are being caused by the
ID spoofers and one or two posters who cannot seem to let go of the past
and practice self control


Yeah, maybe it's easy for some to forget a decade of vulgar,
manipulative posts... But those of us on the recieving end might take
a bit longer... My daughter still talks about the things said about
her here.... Not to mention my wife.

Sooo, I will play nice, but a troll post is a troll post, no matter
how subtile...


Go to the OT Acrimony thread.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

John H


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