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Building small sailboats
My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of
life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe 3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her. Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy. I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a small boat because it is then too heavy. Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so enclosed like the interior of a small boat? |
Building small sailboats
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Building small sailboats
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says... In article 794f3bc9-55fb-4630-bb79-a1867860a5b3 @i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says... My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe 3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her. Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy. I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a small boat because it is then too heavy. Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so enclosed like the interior of a small boat? Waaaaayyy too time and $$$ intensive. Just make them out of good !088 Ocoume and don't skin the outsides with glass. If you paint them every few years, you could get 20 out of them. I have a hull I built of 1088 almost 12 years ago that is still sitting unprotected in the yard, it has not started to delaminate or rot yet... Oh, and the Occoume is very light. The brand I used was about 22 pounds for a 4x8 sheet of 6mm 5 ply... If you frame with Mahogany (also very light) or even Doug Fir, you can make the boat very light. I am not familiar with the cup though, maybe the weight is part of the equation for the boat to perform properly? -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! |
Building small sailboats
"Secular Humanist" wrote in message ... On 8/23/10 11:54 AM, I am Tosk wrote: In article794f3bc9-55fb-4630-bb79-a1867860a5b3 @i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says... My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe 3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her. Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy. I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a small boat because it is then too heavy. Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so enclosed like the interior of a small boat? Waaaaayyy too time and $$$ intensive. Just make them out of good !088 Ocoume and don't skin the outsides with glass. If you paint them every few years, you could get 20 out of them. I have a hull I built of 1088 almost 12 years ago that is still sitting unprotected in the yard, it has not started to delaminate or rot yet... And when he's not using it as an outhouse, it is used as a trash container. P.S. You still living across from the cemetery? ~~ Snerk ~~ ROFL.... please stop...you're killin' me! |
Building small sailboats
In article ,
says... "Secular Humanist" wrote in message ... On 8/23/10 11:54 AM, I am Tosk wrote: In article794f3bc9-55fb-4630-bb79-a1867860a5b3 @i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says... My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe 3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her. Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy. I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a small boat because it is then too heavy. Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so enclosed like the interior of a small boat? Waaaaayyy too time and $$$ intensive. Just make them out of good !088 Ocoume and don't skin the outsides with glass. If you paint them every few years, you could get 20 out of them. I have a hull I built of 1088 almost 12 years ago that is still sitting unprotected in the yard, it has not started to delaminate or rot yet... And when he's not using it as an outhouse, it is used as a trash container. P.S. You still living across from the cemetery? ~~ Snerk ~~ ROFL.... please stop...you're killin' me! Simpletons are easily amused. What's "killin'" you is you can't breath with your nose stuck so far up my fat ass. |
Building small sailboats
On 8/23/10 3:00 PM, YukonBound wrote:
"Secular Humanist" wrote in message ... On 8/23/10 11:54 AM, I am Tosk wrote: In article794f3bc9-55fb-4630-bb79-a1867860a5b3 @i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says... My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe 3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her. Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy. I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a small boat because it is then too heavy. Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so enclosed like the interior of a small boat? Waaaaayyy too time and $$$ intensive. Just make them out of good !088 Ocoume and don't skin the outsides with glass. If you paint them every few years, you could get 20 out of them. I have a hull I built of 1088 almost 12 years ago that is still sitting unprotected in the yard, it has not started to delaminate or rot yet... And when he's not using it as an outhouse, it is used as a trash container. P.S. You still living across from the cemetery? ~~ Snerk ~~ ROFL.... please stop...you're killin' me! I could have sworn the little man posted that he lived across the street or next to some sort of cemetery. |
Building small sailboats
In article ,
says... On 8/23/10 3:00 PM, YukonBound wrote: "Secular Humanist" wrote in message ... On 8/23/10 11:54 AM, I am Tosk wrote: In article794f3bc9-55fb-4630-bb79-a1867860a5b3 @i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says... My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe 3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her. Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy. I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a small boat because it is then too heavy. Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so enclosed like the interior of a small boat? Waaaaayyy too time and $$$ intensive. Just make them out of good !088 Ocoume and don't skin the outsides with glass. If you paint them every few years, you could get 20 out of them. I have a hull I built of 1088 almost 12 years ago that is still sitting unprotected in the yard, it has not started to delaminate or rot yet... And when he's not using it as an outhouse, it is used as a trash container. P.S. You still living across from the cemetery? ~~ Snerk ~~ ROFL.... please stop...you're killin' me! I could have sworn the little man posted that he lived across the street or next to some sort of cemetery. Spoofer alert! I certainly haven't actually had to have someone tell me something to try and convince others here that it's true. Look at the lies I started about other's family members. |
Building small sailboats
YukonBound wrote:
"Secular Humanist" wrote in message ... On 8/23/10 11:54 AM, I am Tosk wrote: In article794f3bc9-55fb-4630-bb79-a1867860a5b3 @i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says... My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe 3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her. Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy. I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a small boat because it is then too heavy. Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so enclosed like the interior of a small boat? Waaaaayyy too time and $$$ intensive. Just make them out of good !088 Ocoume and don't skin the outsides with glass. If you paint them every few years, you could get 20 out of them. I have a hull I built of 1088 almost 12 years ago that is still sitting unprotected in the yard, it has not started to delaminate or rot yet... And when he's not using it as an outhouse, it is used as a trash container. P.S. You still living across from the cemetery? ~~ Snerk ~~ ROFL.... please stop...you're killin' me! If only that were true, lemming... |
Building small sailboats
On 8/23/10 7:20 PM, Larry wrote:
YukonBound wrote: "Secular Humanist" wrote in message ... On 8/23/10 11:54 AM, I am Tosk wrote: In article794f3bc9-55fb-4630-bb79-a1867860a5b3 @i13g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says... My 8 yr old homebuilt MiniCup sailboats may have reached their end of life. The plans emphasize that they are intended to last only maybe 3-4 years so mine have done well. Both have been repaired at least once to get rid of rot but the rain and humidity here in N. Fl makes it a losing battle. #1 has been sitting upside down for a year waiting for me to re-do her topsides and #2 has been sitting out where I always bail her out. Last night I looked inside #2 and found her insides filled with water so I pumped out the compartments. Still she seems very heavy and I think the 3/16 ply is saturated. I did epoxy and glass her on the outside and part of the interior but the ply ion the inside is like a sponge. Am not sure what to do with her. Back to #1 whose bottom is still good along with much of her structure. I am considering using corecell foam to replace the decking and saturating the remaining wood with epoxy. I'd like to totally re-design the MiniCups to use modern materials so they are not disposable boats but I do not want to use ply for such a small boat because it is then too heavy. Can anybody suggest any guides on using corecell as the forms for glassed over structural parts and then using sheet corecell glassed for the hull? How do you glass both sides of something that is so enclosed like the interior of a small boat? Waaaaayyy too time and $$$ intensive. Just make them out of good !088 Ocoume and don't skin the outsides with glass. If you paint them every few years, you could get 20 out of them. I have a hull I built of 1088 almost 12 years ago that is still sitting unprotected in the yard, it has not started to delaminate or rot yet... And when he's not using it as an outhouse, it is used as a trash container. P.S. You still living across from the cemetery? ~~ Snerk ~~ ROFL.... please stop...you're killin' me! If only that were true, lemming... How's that boat of yours, Bertie? |
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