Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 9-Aug-2010, wrote:

well NOW you're starting to see the light. and the george bush that
just left office?

his tax cuts are responsible for most of our deficit. but the right
refuses, in a pravda like manner, to tell THAT story
I have said a number of times, just let all of the tax cuts expire.

If you did just raise the 35% rate to 39% that would only raise
revenue about 6-7%, a drop in the bucket.
That assumes these people don't find ways to shelter more of their
income and with a 10,000 page tax code, that is likely.

The best part of the coming tax increases is the increase in the lowest tax
bracket from 10% to 15%. That's a fifty percent increase. It's about time
the unwashed start pulling their own weight.

Not going to happen, unless the Republicans get full blame for it.

Jim - Take that to the bank.

On 9-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:



The OBAMA motto: We've got what it takes, to take what you've got!


more racist bull****.

most tax cuts go to the rich...tax cuts are regressive...but the right
keeps taht little secret to themselves

You have to be minimum wage with those "thoughts." If so, your tax rate is
going up 50% January 1. Can you grasp that? If "the rich" (productive
people) got a 50% tax increase they'd leave in minutes, and the unproductive
would have to fend for them selves. (you).

50% tax increase is really taking it up the ass....say "thank you
Buckwheat!"

On 9-Aug-2010, Jim wrote:

Your kids still can't read, write or think. Do you seriously "think"
federal interference will make anyone more competent? It's not apparent
the
way you assholes vote.

Only dope parents produce kids who end up dopes after a public school
education.
Education costs could be cut in half and we'd still have the same number
of dopes. No more, no less.
Hey. You the guy who bemoans folks buying non-American tools?
And then suggests a couple right-wing free-traders should run the
country and make it even more impossible to find American made tools?
I take it back about parents.
Won't blame your parents.
Some dopes just turn out dopes no matter what.
And I just bought a 5" Rigid orbital sander.
Good old American name there. Made in China.

So you're a subversive, you have millions of comrades. Bring it home in your
Toyota??

On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 18:03:15 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:38:48 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 10:54:48 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 06:00:00 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

and if the private sector is so great why do we have BP and the most
expensive healthcare in the world, and a stock market that just pulled
11 trillion dollars out of the net worth of the US?

Why weren't the government inspectors checking the BP rig?

why should they? deregulation, remember? the bad oil companies go
bankrupt...

oh...wait...the rich stacked the deck to limit liability so the
taxpayer gets stuck with the bill...

Because there was regulation, the government just chose not to enforce
it.

that is correct. shows what happens when corporations start tossing
the term 'socialist' at the pres...




Our health care is so expensive because we use too much of it. People
get a hangnail and they end up with an MRI. You can't go to the doctor
without coming home with a couple bottles of pills. Most of the money
we spend is in keeping corpses alive for a few extra days. Did you
watch 60 minutes last Sunday?

aint free enterprise wonderful? almost sounds like you're arguing for
govt control of healthcare!


In this case it IS government health care (Medicare)

ever hear of blue cross? aetna? kaiser? they're not medicare



Why was the SEC asleep at the switch and why did Clinton force
Brooksley Born out when she warned us about the derivatives?

the SEC was asleep during the run up to this disaster under teh bush
administration...and you're absolutely correct; brooksley born got
screwed by a govt drunk on free market fundamentalism...

just like the tea baggers argue today...you know, the most right wing
of the right wing...


The deregulation that allowed this happened in the 90s.

and the 80's under reagan with his 'smaller govt' fundamentalism



Non responsive answer. Why does Fed Ex exist if the government is
always the best way of doing things?

never said they were the BEST.

Write that down and refer to it before you respond again.

when the govt takes 11 trillion out of the economy in 3 years lke wall
street just did...

you be sure and let me know

On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 23:21:30 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 9-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:



The OBAMA motto: We've got what it takes, to take what you've got!


more racist bull****.

most tax cuts go to the rich...tax cuts are regressive...but the right
keeps taht little secret to themselves

You have to be minimum wage with those "thoughts."

dont know too many chem engrs who make minimum wage

so how much DO you earn at mcdonalds?

If so, your tax rate is
going up 50% January 1. Can you grasp that?

yeah. and obama's gonna confiscate guns...how'd that work out?

If "the rich" (productive
people) got a 50% tax increase they'd leave in minutes, and the unproductive
would have to fend for them selves. (you).

ah. the rich are productive. the middle class is not.

notice how the right wing j ust hates the mddle class

the rich took 11 trillion out of the economy...

they added NOTHING to it. the finacial sector went up to 40% of GDP in
2007 and added NOTHING to ameirca

but he calls them 'productive'.

do we need more proof the right wing hates america?

Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 9-Aug-2010, Jim wrote:

Your kids still can't read, write or think. Do you seriously "think"
federal interference will make anyone more competent? It's not apparent
the
way you assholes vote.
Only dope parents produce kids who end up dopes after a public school
education.
Education costs could be cut in half and we'd still have the same number
of dopes. No more, no less.
Hey. You the guy who bemoans folks buying non-American tools?
And then suggests a couple right-wing free-traders should run the
country and make it even more impossible to find American made tools?
I take it back about parents.
Won't blame your parents.
Some dopes just turn out dopes no matter what.
And I just bought a 5" Rigid orbital sander.
Good old American name there. Made in China.

So you're a subversive, you have millions of comrades. Bring it home in your
Toyota??

**** off Krueger.
Go bother Don before I send somebody over to key your Bimmer.

Jim - Damn, the dopes never hardly make any sense.

In article ,
says...

On 9-Aug-2010, bpuharic wrote:



The OBAMA motto: We've got what it takes, to take what you've got!


more racist bull****.

most tax cuts go to the rich...tax cuts are regressive...but the right
keeps taht little secret to themselves

You have to be minimum wage with those "thoughts." If so, your tax rate is
going up 50% January 1. Can you grasp that? If "the rich" (productive
people) got a 50% tax increase they'd leave in minutes, and the unproductive
would have to fend for them selves. (you).

50% tax increase is really taking it up the ass....say "thank you
Buckwheat!"

More like, "**** you Obama"...

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 9-Aug-2010, Jim wrote:

Your kids still can't read, write or think. Do you seriously "think"
federal interference will make anyone more competent? It's not apparent
the
way you assholes vote.
Only dope parents produce kids who end up dopes after a public school
education.
Education costs could be cut in half and we'd still have the same number
of dopes. No more, no less.
Hey. You the guy who bemoans folks buying non-American tools?
And then suggests a couple right-wing free-traders should run the
country and make it even more impossible to find American made tools?
I take it back about parents.
Won't blame your parents.
Some dopes just turn out dopes no matter what.
And I just bought a 5" Rigid orbital sander.
Good old American name there. Made in China.

So you're a subversive, you have millions of comrades. Bring it home in
your
Toyota??

**** off Krueger.
Go bother Don before I send somebody over to key your Bimmer.

Jim - Damn, the dopes never hardly make any sense.


~~ Snerk ~~
Ditzy Dan using another alias in a pathetic bid to be listened to?

On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 01:46:50 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:30:30 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

Our health care is so expensive because we use too much of it. People
get a hangnail and they end up with an MRI. You can't go to the doctor
without coming home with a couple bottles of pills. Most of the money
we spend is in keeping corpses alive for a few extra days. Did you
watch 60 minutes last Sunday?

aint free enterprise wonderful? almost sounds like you're arguing for
govt control of healthcare!


In this case it IS government health care (Medicare)

ever hear of blue cross? aetna? kaiser? they're not medicare


The 60 minutes story and the end of life problem in general, is a
Medicare problem.

no question about it. in fact 25% of medicare is used by the 5% of
patients in their last year of life

the healthcare bill had a provision to help look at addressing this
ratioanlly. as a former hospice volunteer, i saw how unprepared people
were to make these decisions

but the right wing called these 'death panels' so the provisions got
stripped out because of right wing lies.




The deregulation that allowed this happened in the 90s.

and the 80's under reagan with his 'smaller govt' fundamentalism

The reality is, there was not really the kind of deregulation that
caused these problems until the 90s.

the fundamentalist drum beat of milton friedman and alan greenspan
took awhile to catch on. the right wing knew it was a scheme to enrich
the already rich, but they didn't care




Non responsive answer. Why does Fed Ex exist if the government is
always the best way of doing things?

never said they were the BEST.

Write that down and refer to it before you respond again.

when the govt takes 11 trillion out of the economy in 3 years lke wall
street just did...

you be sure and let me know

Fed Ex did not take 11 trillion out of the economy either.

ever hear of AIG? they did.

oh. you're right wing. you dont know about contemporary issues. you
hve your fairy tales.

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 20:32:44 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

the finacial sector went up to 40% of GDP in
2007 and added NOTHING to ameirca

The financial sector will have to add a whole lot more to the GDP if
the boomers actually want to retire.
Where do you think pension money comes from?
Retirement is money making money.

Amen brother.

I actually believe the "greatest generation" will be the last ones to
actually complete retirement and not outlive their money simply
because the boomers covered them with our 401k and FICA money.
There are not enough kids behind us to support 75-80 million boomers
on a pension.

Amen brother.