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YukonBound wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry  wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. That right there is exactly why you get no respect... you are a liar. John never said either one of those things, that's just what you and donny twisted his words around to say. Repeating it endlessly does not make it true. You are the ultimate in low-life, lying trash krause. You prove it here everyday. cya Liar! Lemming! |
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... Harry ? wrote: On 7/13/10 3:18 PM, YukonBound wrote: "Harry ?" wrote in message m... On 7/13/10 2:54 PM, Jack wrote: On Jul 13, 11:32 am, John wrote: On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:56:10 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:25:34 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:14:25 -0400, John wrote: I've lived in several different apartments in and around Cocoa Beach, back in the '60s, when the place was cool and you could drive on the beach. You can still do that a little further north in Daytona Beach. It is not really like the old days tho. It is not, "drive out there and have a picnic" It is more like the tourist parade. Things were pretty loose and easy in Cocoa Beach back then. I did get stopped once for having glass packs that were a little loud, but the cop let me off with a warning to 'take it easy'. Probably 15 years ago we were vacationing at a beach in SC (where it is illegal to drive on the beach) and we got up early one morning for a walk. About a mile down the beach there was a car that made it about half way from the dunes to the firm sand, sitting there, back tires spun down so that the frame was sitting on the sand. Some dude was behind the wheel, and his wife/girlfriend was in the passenger seat, both trying to sink down and blend in to the car. :-) I'm sure his wallet was much lighter when that was over. I'm sure he appreciated your offer to help. JackOff couldn't wait to turn the guy in. Probably, but a decent guy would have offered to call a tow truck or something...15 years ago, cell phones weren't that common. In the 1950s, my dad's employees would deliver boat rigs to a popular beach where there was pass-through between two old hotels direct to the water. Once in a while, the jeep they used would bury its wheels up to the hubs in the sand. When that happened, plenty of guys would come over to help out. Obviously, these volunteers weren't "jackgoffs." Another lovely "my Dad" story! Yup, another boring My Dad story from the great story teller Krowsie the coward. -- Harold |
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On 7/18/10 1:38 PM, Harold wrote:
wrote in message ... Harry ? wrote: On 7/13/10 3:18 PM, YukonBound wrote: "Harry wrote in message m... On 7/13/10 2:54 PM, Jack wrote: On Jul 13, 11:32 am, John wrote: On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:56:10 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:25:34 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:14:25 -0400, John wrote: I've lived in several different apartments in and around Cocoa Beach, back in the '60s, when the place was cool and you could drive on the beach. You can still do that a little further north in Daytona Beach. It is not really like the old days tho. It is not, "drive out there and have a picnic" It is more like the tourist parade. Things were pretty loose and easy in Cocoa Beach back then. I did get stopped once for having glass packs that were a little loud, but the cop let me off with a warning to 'take it easy'. Probably 15 years ago we were vacationing at a beach in SC (where it is illegal to drive on the beach) and we got up early one morning for a walk. About a mile down the beach there was a car that made it about half way from the dunes to the firm sand, sitting there, back tires spun down so that the frame was sitting on the sand. Some dude was behind the wheel, and his wife/girlfriend was in the passenger seat, both trying to sink down and blend in to the car. :-) I'm sure his wallet was much lighter when that was over. I'm sure he appreciated your offer to help. JackOff couldn't wait to turn the guy in. Probably, but a decent guy would have offered to call a tow truck or something...15 years ago, cell phones weren't that common. In the 1950s, my dad's employees would deliver boat rigs to a popular beach where there was pass-through between two old hotels direct to the water. Once in a while, the jeep they used would bury its wheels up to the hubs in the sand. When that happened, plenty of guys would come over to help out. Obviously, these volunteers weren't "jackgoffs." Another lovely "my Dad" story! Yup, another boring My Dad story from the great story teller Krowsie the coward. It's satisfying to be the object of affection of the right-wing trashbags here...trashbags like you and your buddy Danny Krueger, aka Bob, aka Larry. What did your father do, flajim, aside from wishing he was wearing a quality condom when you were conceived? |
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m... On 7/18/10 1:38 PM, Harold wrote: wrote in message ... Harry ? wrote: On 7/13/10 3:18 PM, YukonBound wrote: "Harry wrote in message m... On 7/13/10 2:54 PM, Jack wrote: On Jul 13, 11:32 am, John wrote: On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:56:10 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:25:34 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:14:25 -0400, John wrote: I've lived in several different apartments in and around Cocoa Beach, back in the '60s, when the place was cool and you could drive on the beach. You can still do that a little further north in Daytona Beach. It is not really like the old days tho. It is not, "drive out there and have a picnic" It is more like the tourist parade. Things were pretty loose and easy in Cocoa Beach back then. I did get stopped once for having glass packs that were a little loud, but the cop let me off with a warning to 'take it easy'. Probably 15 years ago we were vacationing at a beach in SC (where it is illegal to drive on the beach) and we got up early one morning for a walk. About a mile down the beach there was a car that made it about half way from the dunes to the firm sand, sitting there, back tires spun down so that the frame was sitting on the sand. Some dude was behind the wheel, and his wife/girlfriend was in the passenger seat, both trying to sink down and blend in to the car. :-) I'm sure his wallet was much lighter when that was over. I'm sure he appreciated your offer to help. JackOff couldn't wait to turn the guy in. Probably, but a decent guy would have offered to call a tow truck or something...15 years ago, cell phones weren't that common. In the 1950s, my dad's employees would deliver boat rigs to a popular beach where there was pass-through between two old hotels direct to the water. Once in a while, the jeep they used would bury its wheels up to the hubs in the sand. When that happened, plenty of guys would come over to help out. Obviously, these volunteers weren't "jackgoffs." Another lovely "my Dad" story! Yup, another boring My Dad story from the great story teller Krowsie the coward. It's satisfying to be the object of affection of the right-wing trashbags here...trashbags like you and your buddy Danny Krueger, aka Bob, aka Larry. What did your father do, flajim, aside from wishing he was wearing a quality condom when you were conceived? Well I know for a fact he didn't cross the Atlantic in a runabout. And I'm quite sure he wasn't the #1 boat dealer in all of New Haven. I'm not at all sure he wasn't your real father. Hey, we might be half brothers. -- Harold |
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81gmail.com says... Probably, but a decent guy would have offered to call a tow truck or something...15 years ago, cell phones weren't that common. In the 1950s, my dad's employees would deliver boat rigs to a popular beach where there was pass-through between two old hotels direct to the water. Once in a while, the jeep they used would bury its wheels up to the hubs in the sand. When that happened, plenty of guys would come over to help out. Obviously, these volunteers weren't "jackgoffs." Another lovely "my Dad" story! Notice that all of these stories are about Harry's dad and how people were willing to help Harry's dad. You never hear stories about people willing to help Harry out of the goodness of their hearts. But, you will hear about people helping Harry at full retail cost. |
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On Jul 13, 6:16Â*pm, "YukonBound" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry  wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Â*Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. That right there is exactly why you get no respect... you are a liar. John never said either one of those things, that's just what you and donny twisted his words around to say. Â*Repeating it endlessly does not make it true. You are the ultimate in low-life, lying trash krause. Â*You prove it here everyday. cya Liar! Well Donnie, if you're calling Larry a liar, then you must be able to show where I said I wanted to winterize my boat with WD-40 and where I asked which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for my four cycle outboard. Normally I wouldn't waste my time with you, but in this case you called someone a liar who is telling the truth. Put up or shut up. |
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On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote:
On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. That right there is exactly why you get no respect... you are a liar. John never said either one of those things, that's just what you and donny twisted his words around to say. Repeating it endlessly does not make it true. You are the ultimate in low-life, lying trash krause. You prove it here everyday. cya Liar! Well Donnie, if you're calling Larry a liar, then you must be able to show where I said I wanted to winterize my boat with WD-40 and where I asked which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for my four cycle outboard. Normally I wouldn't waste my time with you, but in this case you called someone a liar who is telling the truth. Put up or shut up. You made both of those statements, right here in rec.boat. You inquired about both. That you are denying it now is just more evidence of the bull**** you spew here. BTW, why aren't you out playing golf? There is a pool, you know, on what day you'll have a stroke on the back 18. |
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m... On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. That right there is exactly why you get no respect... you are a liar. John never said either one of those things, that's just what you and donny twisted his words around to say. Repeating it endlessly does not make it true. You are the ultimate in low-life, lying trash krause. You prove it here everyday. cya Liar! Well Donnie, if you're calling Larry a liar, then you must be able to show where I said I wanted to winterize my boat with WD-40 and where I asked which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for my four cycle outboard. Normally I wouldn't waste my time with you, but in this case you called someone a liar who is telling the truth. Put up or shut up. You made both of those statements, right here in rec.boat. You inquired about both. That you are denying it now is just more evidence of the bull**** you spew here. BTW, why aren't you out playing golf? There is a pool, you know, on what day you'll have a stroke on the back 18. John's right You are full of Ka Ka. No evidence to back up your bull****? Harold |
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John H wrote:
On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. That right there is exactly why you get no respect... you are a liar. John never said either one of those things, that's just what you and donny twisted his words around to say. Repeating it endlessly does not make it true. You are the ultimate in low-life, lying trash krause. You prove it here everyday. cya Liar! Well Donnie, if you're calling Larry a liar, then you must be able to show where I said I wanted to winterize my boat with WD-40 and where I asked which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for my four cycle outboard. Normally I wouldn't waste my time with you, but in this case you called someone a liar who is telling the truth. Put up or shut up. Harry told him that. He's a helpless lemming on his own. |
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Harry  wrote:
On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. That right there is exactly why you get no respect... you are a liar. John never said either one of those things, that's just what you and donny twisted his words around to say. Repeating it endlessly does not make it true. You are the ultimate in low-life, lying trash krause. You prove it here everyday. cya Liar! Well Donnie, if you're calling Larry a liar, then you must be able to show where I said I wanted to winterize my boat with WD-40 and where I asked which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for my four cycle outboard. Normally I wouldn't waste my time with you, but in this case you called someone a liar who is telling the truth. Put up or shut up. You made both of those statements, right here in rec.boat. You inquired about both. That you are denying it now is just more evidence of the bull**** you spew here. BTW, why aren't you out playing golf? There is a pool, you know, on what day you'll have a stroke on the back 18. Back 18? You didn't graduate anywhere near the top of your class, did you? |
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On 7/19/10 8:20 PM, Larry wrote:
Harry  wrote: On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. That right there is exactly why you get no respect... you are a liar. John never said either one of those things, that's just what you and donny twisted his words around to say. Repeating it endlessly does not make it true. You are the ultimate in low-life, lying trash krause. You prove it here everyday. cya Liar! Well Donnie, if you're calling Larry a liar, then you must be able to show where I said I wanted to winterize my boat with WD-40 and where I asked which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for my four cycle outboard. Normally I wouldn't waste my time with you, but in this case you called someone a liar who is telling the truth. Put up or shut up. You made both of those statements, right here in rec.boat. You inquired about both. That you are denying it now is just more evidence of the bull**** you spew here. BTW, why aren't you out playing golf? There is a pool, you know, on what day you'll have a stroke on the back 18. Back 18? You didn't graduate anywhere near the top of your class, did you? Back 18 includes herring's mulligans. |
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Harry  wrote:
On 7/19/10 8:20 PM, Larry wrote: Harry  wrote: On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. That right there is exactly why you get no respect... you are a liar. John never said either one of those things, that's just what you and donny twisted his words around to say. Repeating it endlessly does not make it true. You are the ultimate in low-life, lying trash krause. You prove it here everyday. cya Liar! Well Donnie, if you're calling Larry a liar, then you must be able to show where I said I wanted to winterize my boat with WD-40 and where I asked which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for my four cycle outboard. Normally I wouldn't waste my time with you, but in this case you called someone a liar who is telling the truth. Put up or shut up. You made both of those statements, right here in rec.boat. You inquired about both. That you are denying it now is just more evidence of the bull**** you spew here. BTW, why aren't you out playing golf? There is a pool, you know, on what day you'll have a stroke on the back 18. Back 18? You didn't graduate anywhere near the top of your class, did you? Back 18 includes herring's mulligans. Try again. Do you even know what a mulligan is? |
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On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:20:19 -0400, Larry wrote:
Harry ? wrote: On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. That right there is exactly why you get no respect... you are a liar. John never said either one of those things, that's just what you and donny twisted his words around to say. Repeating it endlessly does not make it true. You are the ultimate in low-life, lying trash krause. You prove it here everyday. cya Liar! Well Donnie, if you're calling Larry a liar, then you must be able to show where I said I wanted to winterize my boat with WD-40 and where I asked which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for my four cycle outboard. Normally I wouldn't waste my time with you, but in this case you called someone a liar who is telling the truth. Put up or shut up. You made both of those statements, right here in rec.boat. You inquired about both. That you are denying it now is just more evidence of the bull**** you spew here. BTW, why aren't you out playing golf? There is a pool, you know, on what day you'll have a stroke on the back 18. Back 18? You didn't graduate anywhere near the top of your class, did you? Looks like neither one of them can tell the difference between a query and a statement. Friggin' liars, both. -- John H |
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On 7/20/10 7:17 AM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:20:19 -0400, wrote: Harry ? wrote: On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. That right there is exactly why you get no respect... you are a liar. John never said either one of those things, that's just what you and donny twisted his words around to say. Repeating it endlessly does not make it true. You are the ultimate in low-life, lying trash krause. You prove it here everyday. cya Liar! Well Donnie, if you're calling Larry a liar, then you must be able to show where I said I wanted to winterize my boat with WD-40 and where I asked which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for my four cycle outboard. Normally I wouldn't waste my time with you, but in this case you called someone a liar who is telling the truth. Put up or shut up. You made both of those statements, right here in rec.boat. You inquired about both. That you are denying it now is just more evidence of the bull**** you spew here. BTW, why aren't you out playing golf? There is a pool, you know, on what day you'll have a stroke on the back 18. Back 18? You didn't graduate anywhere near the top of your class, did you? Looks like neither one of them can tell the difference between a query and a statement. Friggin' liars, both. The fact that you actually *asked* if you could lube your four cycle outboard with two cycle oil in the gas and that you wanted to know if you could winterize your outboard with WD-40 says just about everything in your boat engine knowledge. You obviously wanted to use two cycle oil and winterize with WD-40, else you wouldn't have asked. As i stated, you inquired about both. Ergo, *you* are the liar. |
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"Harry ?" wrote in message
... On 7/20/10 7:17 AM, John H wrote: On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:20:19 -0400, wrote: Harry ? wrote: On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. That right there is exactly why you get no respect... you are a liar. John never said either one of those things, that's just what you and donny twisted his words around to say. Repeating it endlessly does not make it true. You are the ultimate in low-life, lying trash krause. You prove it here everyday. cya Liar! Well Donnie, if you're calling Larry a liar, then you must be able to show where I said I wanted to winterize my boat with WD-40 and where I asked which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for my four cycle outboard. Normally I wouldn't waste my time with you, but in this case you called someone a liar who is telling the truth. Put up or shut up. You made both of those statements, right here in rec.boat. You inquired about both. That you are denying it now is just more evidence of the bull**** you spew here. BTW, why aren't you out playing golf? There is a pool, you know, on what day you'll have a stroke on the back 18. Back 18? You didn't graduate anywhere near the top of your class, did you? Looks like neither one of them can tell the difference between a query and a statement. Friggin' liars, both. The fact that you actually *asked* if you could lube your four cycle outboard with two cycle oil in the gas and that you wanted to know if you could winterize your outboard with WD-40 says just about everything in your boat engine knowledge. You obviously wanted to use two cycle oil and winterize with WD-40, else you wouldn't have asked. As i stated, you inquired about both. Ergo, *you* are the liar. Why should we accept your word over John's? Why Harry? -- Harold |
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81gmail.com says... Harry ? wrote: On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. That right there is exactly why you get no respect... you are a liar. John never said either one of those things, that's just what you and donny twisted his words around to say. Repeating it endlessly does not make it true. You are the ultimate in low-life, lying trash krause. You prove it here everyday. cya Liar! Well Donnie, if you're calling Larry a liar, then you must be able to show where I said I wanted to winterize my boat with WD-40 and where I asked which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for my four cycle outboard. Normally I wouldn't waste my time with you, but in this case you called someone a liar who is telling the truth. Put up or shut up. You made both of those statements, right here in rec.boat. You inquired about both. That you are denying it now is just more evidence of the bull**** you spew here. BTW, why aren't you out playing golf? There is a pool, you know, on what day you'll have a stroke on the back 18. Back 18? You didn't graduate anywhere near the top of your class, did you? He dropped out, that's why he made up the stories of Yale and such... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! |
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On Jul 19, 9:40Â*am, Harry  wrote:
On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, Â*wrote: Â*wrote in message .... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry Â*wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Â*Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. Aw, for pity sakes. If my memory serves me correctly, Herring asked what kind of oil to use to 'fog' his outboard for winterizing and WD-40 was mentioned. You can buy fogging oil and use it only to find out that cheap WD, STP, Liqui-Drench, and any other penetrating oil contains about the same qualities as a $9.95 can of "genuine" fogging oil. PLUS! The question that John brought up about what brand of oil to use in the crank case of his 4 cycle outboard was brought up, and Bill Graham (mechanic extraordinaire who sees no redeeming quality in rec.boats due to all the political and insulting posts) thought that Herrings engine was a 2-cycle, so Bill recommended that he use any quality oil rated for 50:1 for fuel/oil mix. Bill never advised to change the crank case oil on a 4 stroke and use 2 cycle oil. and Herring never took it that way. For all I know. John never brought up a question on what 2 cycle mix oil to put in a 4 stroke crank case There is a misconception there. So, This is from my recollections and I'd like to see anybody prove otherwise. So until then can we finally give that topic a break???? |
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On 7/20/10 1:21 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 19, 9:40 am, Harry wrote: On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. Aw, for pity sakes. If my memory serves me correctly, Herring asked what kind of oil to use to 'fog' his outboard for winterizing and WD-40 was mentioned. You can buy fogging oil and use it only to find out that cheap WD, STP, Liqui-Drench, and any other penetrating oil contains about the same qualities as a $9.95 can of "genuine" fogging oil. PLUS! The question that John brought up about what brand of oil to use in the crank case of his 4 cycle outboard was brought up, and Bill Graham (mechanic extraordinaire who sees no redeeming quality in rec.boats due to all the political and insulting posts) thought that Herrings engine was a 2-cycle, so Bill recommended that he use any quality oil rated for 50:1 for fuel/oil mix. Bill never advised to change the crank case oil on a 4 stroke and use 2 cycle oil. and Herring never took it that way. For all I know. John never brought up a question on what 2 cycle mix oil to put in a 4 stroke crank case There is a misconception there. So, This is from my recollections and I'd like to see anybody prove otherwise. So until then can we finally give that topic a break???? Why would "Bill,"* when asked what sort of oil to put in a crankcase, conclude a two stroke engine was under discussion? One doesn't run a two stroke outboard properly by putting oil in the crankcase of a two stroke outboard. Herring himself stated he posed the queries. He did ask. BTW. I don't think it is a great idea to use WD-40 for engine fogging, for reasons previously discussed here. * It's Bill Grannis, I believe, not Bill Graham. |
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On Jul 20, 12:31Â*pm, Harry  wrote:
On 7/20/10 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 9:40 am, Harry Â*wrote: On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, Â* Â*wrote: Â* Â*wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry Â* Â*wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Â*Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. Aw, for pity sakes. If my memory serves me correctly, Herring asked what kind of oil to use to 'fog' his outboard for winterizing and WD-40 was mentioned. You can buy fogging oil and use it only to find out that cheap WD, STP, Liqui-Drench, and any other penetrating oil contains about the same qualities as a $9.95 can of "genuine" fogging oil. PLUS! The question that John brought up about what brand of oil to use in the crank case of his 4 cycle outboard was brought up, and Bill Graham (mechanic extraordinaire who sees no redeeming quality in rec.boats due to all the political and insulting posts) thought that Herrings engine was a 2-cycle, so Bill recommended that he use any quality oil rated for 50:1 for fuel/oil mix. Bill never advised Â*to change the crank case oil on a 4 stroke and use 2 cycle oil. Â*and Herring never took it that way. For all I know. John never brought up a question on what 2 cycle mix oil to put in a 4 stroke crank case There is a misconception there. So, This is from my recollections and I'd like to see anybody prove otherwise. Â*So until then can we finally give that topic a break???? Why would "Bill,"* when asked what sort of oil to put in a crankcase, conclude a two stroke engine was under discussion? One doesn't run a two stroke outboard properly by putting oil in the crankcase of a two stroke outboard. Herring himself stated he posed the queries. He did ask. BTW. I don't think it is a great idea to use WD-40 for engine fogging, for reasons previously discussed here. * It's Bill Grannis, I believe, not Bill Graham.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK, so i got his name wrong. But one thing about 'fogging oil" My boats run fine and I've never used the stuff. There should be no damage done to a properly maintaned engine over a 4 month period of time. Do you fog your lawnmower? I doubt it. But if I was going to 'fog' an engine, I'd use any kind of penetrating oil I have on hand. Now if it was going to sit for a few years then yes I'd fog it. but otherwwise.... concerning the 2 cycle oil. Bill would recommend a top quality 2 cycle oil to be used ina 2 cycle engine. I don't remember Herring saying anything about a 2 of 4 stroke that was on his boat. So true, why would Bill recommend filling a carnk case with 2 cycle? He wouldn't. he would suggest using 2 cycle oil in a mix for a 2 cycle engine though, so it seems that Bill got some ill concieved info. thinking that Herring had a two strke engine. I'm done. |
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On 7/20/10 2:41 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 20, 12:31 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/20/10 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 9:40 am, Harry wrote: On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. Aw, for pity sakes. If my memory serves me correctly, Herring asked what kind of oil to use to 'fog' his outboard for winterizing and WD-40 was mentioned. You can buy fogging oil and use it only to find out that cheap WD, STP, Liqui-Drench, and any other penetrating oil contains about the same qualities as a $9.95 can of "genuine" fogging oil. PLUS! The question that John brought up about what brand of oil to use in the crank case of his 4 cycle outboard was brought up, and Bill Graham (mechanic extraordinaire who sees no redeeming quality in rec.boats due to all the political and insulting posts) thought that Herrings engine was a 2-cycle, so Bill recommended that he use any quality oil rated for 50:1 for fuel/oil mix. Bill never advised to change the crank case oil on a 4 stroke and use 2 cycle oil. and Herring never took it that way. For all I know. John never brought up a question on what 2 cycle mix oil to put in a 4 stroke crank case There is a misconception there. So, This is from my recollections and I'd like to see anybody prove otherwise. So until then can we finally give that topic a break???? Why would "Bill,"* when asked what sort of oil to put in a crankcase, conclude a two stroke engine was under discussion? One doesn't run a two stroke outboard properly by putting oil in the crankcase of a two stroke outboard. Herring himself stated he posed the queries. He did ask. BTW. I don't think it is a great idea to use WD-40 for engine fogging, for reasons previously discussed here. * It's Bill Grannis, I believe, not Bill Graham.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK, so i got his name wrong. But one thing about 'fogging oil" My boats run fine and I've never used the stuff. There should be no damage done to a properly maintaned engine over a 4 month period of time. Do you fog your lawnmower? I doubt it. But if I was going to 'fog' an engine, I'd use any kind of penetrating oil I have on hand. Now if it was going to sit for a few years then yes I'd fog it. but otherwwise.... concerning the 2 cycle oil. Bill would recommend a top quality 2 cycle oil to be used ina 2 cycle engine. I don't remember Herring saying anything about a 2 of 4 stroke that was on his boat. So true, why would Bill recommend filling a carnk case with 2 cycle? He wouldn't. he would suggest using 2 cycle oil in a mix for a 2 cycle engine though, so it seems that Bill got some ill concieved info. thinking that Herring had a two strke engine. I'm done. He said, they said, we all said. Enough said. Except...yes, I do use fogging oil over the winter in my outboard, my lawnmower, my lawn tractor, et cetera. I also use gasoline preservative. It's cheap enough. |
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On Jul 20, 2:41Â*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jul 20, 12:31Â*pm, Harry  wrote: On 7/20/10 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 9:40 am, Harry Â*wrote: On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, Â* Â*wrote: Â* Â*wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry Â* Â*wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Â*Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. Aw, for pity sakes. If my memory serves me correctly, Herring asked what kind of oil to use to 'fog' his outboard for winterizing and WD-40 was mentioned. You can buy fogging oil and use it only to find out that cheap WD, STP, Liqui-Drench, and any other penetrating oil contains about the same qualities as a $9.95 can of "genuine" fogging oil. PLUS! The question that John brought up about what brand of oil to use in the crank case of his 4 cycle outboard was brought up, and Bill Graham (mechanic extraordinaire who sees no redeeming quality in rec.boats due to all the political and insulting posts) thought that Herrings engine was a 2-cycle, so Bill recommended that he use any quality oil rated for 50:1 for fuel/oil mix. Bill never advised Â*to change the crank case oil on a 4 stroke and use 2 cycle oil. Â*and Herring never took it that way. For all I know. John never brought up a question on what 2 cycle mix oil to put in a 4 stroke crank case There is a misconception there. So, This is from my recollections and I'd like to see anybody prove otherwise. Â*So until then can we finally give that topic a break???? Why would "Bill,"* when asked what sort of oil to put in a crankcase, conclude a two stroke engine was under discussion? One doesn't run a two stroke outboard properly by putting oil in the crankcase of a two stroke outboard. Herring himself stated he posed the queries. He did ask. BTW. I don't think it is a great idea to use WD-40 for engine fogging, for reasons previously discussed here. * It's Bill Grannis, I believe, not Bill Graham.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK, so i got his name wrong. But one thing about 'fogging oil" My boats run fine and I've never used the stuff. Â*There should be no damage done to a properly maintaned engine over a 4 month period of time. Â*Do you fog your lawnmower? I doubt it. But if I was going to 'fog' an engine, I'd use any kind of penetrating oil I have on hand. Now if it was going to sit for a few years then yes I'd fog it. but otherwwise.... concerning the 2 cycle oil. Bill would recommend a top quality 2 cycle oil to be used ina Â*2 cycle engine. I don't remember Herring saying anything about a 2 of 4 stroke that was on his boat. So true, why would Bill recommend filling a carnk case with 2 cycle? He wouldn't. he would suggest using 2 cycle oil in a mix for a 2 cycle engine though, so it seems that Bill got some ill concieved info. thinking that Herring had a two strke engine. I'm done. Bill thought my Yamaha was a two stroke. |
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On Jul 20, 2:48Â*pm, John H wrote:
On Jul 20, 2:41Â*pm, Tim wrote: On Jul 20, 12:31Â*pm, Harry  wrote: On 7/20/10 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 9:40 am, Harry Â*wrote: On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, Â* Â*wrote: Â* Â*wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry Â* Â*wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Â*Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. Aw, for pity sakes. If my memory serves me correctly, Herring asked what kind of oil to use to 'fog' his outboard for winterizing and WD-40 was mentioned. You can buy fogging oil and use it only to find out that cheap WD, STP, Liqui-Drench, and any other penetrating oil contains about the same qualities as a $9.95 can of "genuine" fogging oil. PLUS! The question that John brought up about what brand of oil to use in the crank case of his 4 cycle outboard was brought up, and Bill Graham (mechanic extraordinaire who sees no redeeming quality in rec.boats due to all the political and insulting posts) thought that Herrings engine was a 2-cycle, so Bill recommended that he use any quality oil rated for 50:1 for fuel/oil mix. Bill never advised Â*to change the crank case oil on a 4 stroke and use 2 cycle oil. Â*and Herring never took it that way. For all I know. John never brought up a question on what 2 cycle mix oil to put in a 4 stroke crank case There is a misconception there. So, This is from my recollections and I'd like to see anybody prove otherwise. Â*So until then can we finally give that topic a break???? Why would "Bill,"* when asked what sort of oil to put in a crankcase, conclude a two stroke engine was under discussion? One doesn't run a two stroke outboard properly by putting oil in the crankcase of a two stroke outboard. Herring himself stated he posed the queries. He did ask. BTW. I don't think it is a great idea to use WD-40 for engine fogging, for reasons previously discussed here. * It's Bill Grannis, I believe, not Bill Graham.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK, so i got his name wrong. But one thing about 'fogging oil" My boats run fine and I've never used the stuff. Â*There should be no damage done to a properly maintaned engine over a 4 month period of time. Â*Do you fog your lawnmower? I doubt it. But if I was going to 'fog' an engine, I'd use any kind of penetrating oil I have on hand. Now if it was going to sit for a few years then yes I'd fog it. but otherwwise.... concerning the 2 cycle oil. Bill would recommend a top quality 2 cycle oil to be used ina Â*2 cycle engine. I don't remember Herring saying anything about a 2 of 4 stroke that was on his boat. So true, why would Bill recommend filling a carnk case with 2 cycle? He wouldn't. he would suggest using 2 cycle oil in a mix for a 2 cycle engine though, so it seems that Bill got some ill concieved info. thinking that Herring had a two strke engine. I'm done. Bill thought my Yamaha was a two stroke.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yep. I know... |
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On Jul 20, 1:59Â*pm, Harry  wrote:
On 7/20/10 2:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 20, 12:31 pm, Harry Â*wrote: On 7/20/10 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 9:40 am, Harry Â* Â*wrote: On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, Â* Â* Â*wrote: Â* Â* Â*wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry Â* Â* Â*wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Â*Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. Aw, for pity sakes. If my memory serves me correctly, Herring asked what kind of oil to use to 'fog' his outboard for winterizing and WD-40 was mentioned. You can buy fogging oil and use it only to find out that cheap WD, STP, Liqui-Drench, and any other penetrating oil contains about the same qualities as a $9.95 can of "genuine" fogging oil. PLUS! The question that John brought up about what brand of oil to use in the crank case of his 4 cycle outboard was brought up, and Bill Graham (mechanic extraordinaire who sees no redeeming quality in rec.boats due to all the political and insulting posts) thought that Herrings engine was a 2-cycle, so Bill recommended that he use any quality oil rated for 50:1 for fuel/oil mix. Bill never advised Â*to change the crank case oil on a 4 stroke and use 2 cycle oil. Â*and Herring never took it that way. For all I know. John never brought up a question on what 2 cycle mix oil to put in a 4 stroke crank case There is a misconception there. So, This is from my recollections and I'd like to see anybody prove otherwise. Â*So until then can we finally give that topic a break???? Why would "Bill,"* when asked what sort of oil to put in a crankcase, conclude a two stroke engine was under discussion? One doesn't run a two stroke outboard properly by putting oil in the crankcase of a two stroke outboard. Herring himself stated he posed the queries. He did ask. BTW. I don't think it is a great idea to use WD-40 for engine fogging, for reasons previously discussed here. * It's Bill Grannis, I believe, not Bill Graham.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK, so i got his name wrong. But one thing about 'fogging oil" My boats run fine and I've never used the stuff. Â*There should be no damage done to a properly maintaned engine over a 4 month period of time. Â*Do you fog your lawnmower? I doubt it. But if I was going to 'fog' an engine, I'd use any kind of penetrating oil I have on hand. Now if it was going to sit for a few years then yes I'd fog it. but otherwwise.... concerning the 2 cycle oil. Bill would recommend a top quality 2 cycle oil to be used ina Â*2 cycle engine. I don't remember Herring saying anything about a 2 of 4 stroke that was on his boat. So true, why would Bill recommend filling a carnk case with 2 cycle? He wouldn't. he would suggest using 2 cycle oil in a mix for a 2 cycle engine though, so it seems that Bill got some ill concieved info. thinking that Herring had a two strke engine. I'm done. He said, they said, we all said. Enough said. Except...yes, I do use fogging oil over the winter in my outboard, my lawnmower, my lawn tractor, et cetera. I also use gasoline preservative. It's cheap enough.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I will say I use a lot of sta-bil in the fuel for winter storage. |
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:41:49 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: If my memory serves me correctly, Herring asked what kind of oil to use to 'fog' his outboard for winterizing and WD-40 was mentioned. You can buy fogging oil and use it only to find out that cheap WD, STP, Liqui-Drench, and any other penetrating oil contains about the same qualities as a $9.95 can of "genuine" fogging oil. The whole idea of fogging is to leave a thin film of oil on the pistons and cylinder walls to prevent corrosion. Even microscopic amounts of corrosion will eventually lead to shorter life. That said, WD-40 and penetrating oils are on the light side and evaporate relatively quickly. I used to winterize my old sailboat engine, a flat head gas engine, with Marvel Mystery oil. It always started right up in the spring and lasted a long time. |
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On Jul 20, 2:59Â*pm, Harry  wrote:
On 7/20/10 2:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 20, 12:31 pm, Harry Â*wrote: On 7/20/10 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 9:40 am, Harry Â* Â*wrote: On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, Â* Â* Â*wrote: Â* Â* Â*wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry Â* Â* Â*wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Â*Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. Aw, for pity sakes. If my memory serves me correctly, Herring asked what kind of oil to use to 'fog' his outboard for winterizing and WD-40 was mentioned. You can buy fogging oil and use it only to find out that cheap WD, STP, Liqui-Drench, and any other penetrating oil contains about the same qualities as a $9.95 can of "genuine" fogging oil. PLUS! The question that John brought up about what brand of oil to use in the crank case of his 4 cycle outboard was brought up, and Bill Graham (mechanic extraordinaire who sees no redeeming quality in rec.boats due to all the political and insulting posts) thought that Herrings engine was a 2-cycle, so Bill recommended that he use any quality oil rated for 50:1 for fuel/oil mix. Bill never advised Â*to change the crank case oil on a 4 stroke and use 2 cycle oil. Â*and Herring never took it that way. For all I know. John never brought up a question on what 2 cycle mix oil to put in a 4 stroke crank case There is a misconception there. So, This is from my recollections and I'd like to see anybody prove otherwise. Â*So until then can we finally give that topic a break???? Why would "Bill,"* when asked what sort of oil to put in a crankcase, conclude a two stroke engine was under discussion? One doesn't run a two stroke outboard properly by putting oil in the crankcase of a two stroke outboard. Herring himself stated he posed the queries. He did ask. BTW. I don't think it is a great idea to use WD-40 for engine fogging, for reasons previously discussed here. * It's Bill Grannis, I believe, not Bill Graham.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK, so i got his name wrong. But one thing about 'fogging oil" My boats run fine and I've never used the stuff. Â*There should be no damage done to a properly maintaned engine over a 4 month period of time. Â*Do you fog your lawnmower? I doubt it. But if I was going to 'fog' an engine, I'd use any kind of penetrating oil I have on hand. Now if it was going to sit for a few years then yes I'd fog it. but otherwwise.... concerning the 2 cycle oil. Bill would recommend a top quality 2 cycle oil to be used ina Â*2 cycle engine. I don't remember Herring saying anything about a 2 of 4 stroke that was on his boat. So true, why would Bill recommend filling a carnk case with 2 cycle? He wouldn't. he would suggest using 2 cycle oil in a mix for a 2 cycle engine though, so it seems that Bill got some ill concieved info. thinking that Herring had a two strke engine. I'm done. He said, they said, we all said. Enough said. You left out one... YOU LIED. John never asked, or said, the things you keep saying he did. Krause LIES. |
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On Jul 20, 3:16*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:41:49 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: If my memory serves me correctly, Herring asked what kind of oil to use to 'fog' his outboard for winterizing and WD-40 was mentioned. You can buy fogging oil and use it only to find out that cheap WD, STP, Liqui-Drench, and any other penetrating oil contains about the same qualities as a $9.95 can of "genuine" fogging oil. The whole idea of fogging *is to leave a thin film of oil on the pistons and cylinder walls to prevent corrosion. *Even microscopic amounts of corrosion will eventually lead to shorter life. * That said, WD-40 and penetrating oils are on the light side and evaporate relatively quickly. * I used to winterize my old sailboat engine, a flat head * * * gas engine, with Marvel Mystery oil. *It always started right up in the spring and lasted a long time. True, Wayne. And maybe I'm doing my engines a dis service by not fogging them, but they seem to start easy and run fine with good compression. Oh, while you're hear, seeing you run detroit "jimmy's" What brand of two stroke oil to you put in the crank cases? ?;^ Q |
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On 7/21/10 8:47 AM, Harold wrote:
"Harry wrote in message ... On 7/20/10 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 9:40 am, Harry wrote: On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. Aw, for pity sakes. If my memory serves me correctly, Herring asked what kind of oil to use to 'fog' his outboard for winterizing and WD-40 was mentioned. You can buy fogging oil and use it only to find out that cheap WD, STP, Liqui-Drench, and any other penetrating oil contains about the same qualities as a $9.95 can of "genuine" fogging oil. PLUS! The question that John brought up about what brand of oil to use in the crank case of his 4 cycle outboard was brought up, and Bill Graham (mechanic extraordinaire who sees no redeeming quality in rec.boats due to all the political and insulting posts) thought that Herrings engine was a 2-cycle, so Bill recommended that he use any quality oil rated for 50:1 for fuel/oil mix. Bill never advised to change the crank case oil on a 4 stroke and use 2 cycle oil. and Herring never took it that way. For all I know. John never brought up a question on what 2 cycle mix oil to put in a 4 stroke crank case There is a misconception there. So, This is from my recollections and I'd like to see anybody prove otherwise. So until then can we finally give that topic a break???? Why would "Bill,"* when asked what sort of oil to put in a crankcase, conclude a two stroke engine was under discussion? One doesn't run a two stroke outboard properly by putting oil in the crankcase of a two stroke outboard. Herring himself stated he posed the queries. He did ask. BTW. I don't think it is a great idea to use WD-40 for engine fogging, for reasons previously discussed here. * It's Bill Grannis, I believe, not Bill Graham. Where does the gas oil mix go after it leaves the carburetor? (How fast can you google Krausie) I send it to your wife, who gives you an enema with it. |
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"Harry ?" wrote in message
... On 7/20/10 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 9:40 am, Harry wrote: On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. Aw, for pity sakes. If my memory serves me correctly, Herring asked what kind of oil to use to 'fog' his outboard for winterizing and WD-40 was mentioned. You can buy fogging oil and use it only to find out that cheap WD, STP, Liqui-Drench, and any other penetrating oil contains about the same qualities as a $9.95 can of "genuine" fogging oil. PLUS! The question that John brought up about what brand of oil to use in the crank case of his 4 cycle outboard was brought up, and Bill Graham (mechanic extraordinaire who sees no redeeming quality in rec.boats due to all the political and insulting posts) thought that Herrings engine was a 2-cycle, so Bill recommended that he use any quality oil rated for 50:1 for fuel/oil mix. Bill never advised to change the crank case oil on a 4 stroke and use 2 cycle oil. and Herring never took it that way. For all I know. John never brought up a question on what 2 cycle mix oil to put in a 4 stroke crank case There is a misconception there. So, This is from my recollections and I'd like to see anybody prove otherwise. So until then can we finally give that topic a break???? Why would "Bill,"* when asked what sort of oil to put in a crankcase, conclude a two stroke engine was under discussion? One doesn't run a two stroke outboard properly by putting oil in the crankcase of a two stroke outboard. Herring himself stated he posed the queries. He did ask. BTW. I don't think it is a great idea to use WD-40 for engine fogging, for reasons previously discussed here. * It's Bill Grannis, I believe, not Bill Graham. Where does the gas oil mix go after it leaves the carburetor? (How fast can you google Krausie) -- Harold |
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"Harry ?" wrote in message
m... On 7/20/10 2:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 20, 12:31 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/20/10 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 9:40 am, Harry wrote: On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. Aw, for pity sakes. If my memory serves me correctly, Herring asked what kind of oil to use to 'fog' his outboard for winterizing and WD-40 was mentioned. You can buy fogging oil and use it only to find out that cheap WD, STP, Liqui-Drench, and any other penetrating oil contains about the same qualities as a $9.95 can of "genuine" fogging oil. PLUS! The question that John brought up about what brand of oil to use in the crank case of his 4 cycle outboard was brought up, and Bill Graham (mechanic extraordinaire who sees no redeeming quality in rec.boats due to all the political and insulting posts) thought that Herrings engine was a 2-cycle, so Bill recommended that he use any quality oil rated for 50:1 for fuel/oil mix. Bill never advised to change the crank case oil on a 4 stroke and use 2 cycle oil. and Herring never took it that way. For all I know. John never brought up a question on what 2 cycle mix oil to put in a 4 stroke crank case There is a misconception there. So, This is from my recollections and I'd like to see anybody prove otherwise. So until then can we finally give that topic a break???? Why would "Bill,"* when asked what sort of oil to put in a crankcase, conclude a two stroke engine was under discussion? One doesn't run a two stroke outboard properly by putting oil in the crankcase of a two stroke outboard. Herring himself stated he posed the queries. He did ask. BTW. I don't think it is a great idea to use WD-40 for engine fogging, for reasons previously discussed here. * It's Bill Grannis, I believe, not Bill Graham.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK, so i got his name wrong. But one thing about 'fogging oil" My boats run fine and I've never used the stuff. There should be no damage done to a properly maintaned engine over a 4 month period of time. Do you fog your lawnmower? I doubt it. But if I was going to 'fog' an engine, I'd use any kind of penetrating oil I have on hand. Now if it was going to sit for a few years then yes I'd fog it. but otherwwise.... concerning the 2 cycle oil. Bill would recommend a top quality 2 cycle oil to be used ina 2 cycle engine. I don't remember Herring saying anything about a 2 of 4 stroke that was on his boat. So true, why would Bill recommend filling a carnk case with 2 cycle? He wouldn't. he would suggest using 2 cycle oil in a mix for a 2 cycle engine though, so it seems that Bill got some ill concieved info. thinking that Herring had a two strke engine. I'm done. He said, they said, we all said. Enough said. Except...yes, I do use fogging oil over the winter in my outboard, my lawnmower, my lawn tractor, et cetera. I also use gasoline preservative. It's cheap enough. Do you have your "guy" take care of all the winterizing or do you do some of it? -- Harold |
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... On Jul 20, 2:59 pm, Harry ? wrote: On 7/20/10 2:41 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 20, 12:31 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/20/10 1:21 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 19, 9:40 am, Harry wrote: On 7/19/10 10:35 AM, John H wrote: On Jul 13, 6:16 pm, wrote: wrote in message ... On Jul 13, 5:01 pm, Harry wrote: On 7/13/10 4:50 PM, John H wrote: ...delivered boats to a beach with a jeep... Right! Why are you commenting? You don't know anything about boats. You're the asshole who wanted to winterize his outboard with WD-40, and wanted to know which two cycle oil to mix in the gas for your four cycle outboard. Aw, for pity sakes. If my memory serves me correctly, Herring asked what kind of oil to use to 'fog' his outboard for winterizing and WD-40 was mentioned. You can buy fogging oil and use it only to find out that cheap WD, STP, Liqui-Drench, and any other penetrating oil contains about the same qualities as a $9.95 can of "genuine" fogging oil. PLUS! The question that John brought up about what brand of oil to use in the crank case of his 4 cycle outboard was brought up, and Bill Graham (mechanic extraordinaire who sees no redeeming quality in rec.boats due to all the political and insulting posts) thought that Herrings engine was a 2-cycle, so Bill recommended that he use any quality oil rated for 50:1 for fuel/oil mix. Bill never advised to change the crank case oil on a 4 stroke and use 2 cycle oil. and Herring never took it that way. For all I know. John never brought up a question on what 2 cycle mix oil to put in a 4 stroke crank case There is a misconception there. So, This is from my recollections and I'd like to see anybody prove otherwise. So until then can we finally give that topic a break???? Why would "Bill,"* when asked what sort of oil to put in a crankcase, conclude a two stroke engine was under discussion? One doesn't run a two stroke outboard properly by putting oil in the crankcase of a two stroke outboard. Herring himself stated he posed the queries. He did ask. BTW. I don't think it is a great idea to use WD-40 for engine fogging, for reasons previously discussed here. * It's Bill Grannis, I believe, not Bill Graham.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - OK, so i got his name wrong. But one thing about 'fogging oil" My boats run fine and I've never used the stuff. There should be no damage done to a properly maintaned engine over a 4 month period of time. Do you fog your lawnmower? I doubt it. But if I was going to 'fog' an engine, I'd use any kind of penetrating oil I have on hand. Now if it was going to sit for a few years then yes I'd fog it. but otherwwise.... concerning the 2 cycle oil. Bill would recommend a top quality 2 cycle oil to be used ina 2 cycle engine. I don't remember Herring saying anything about a 2 of 4 stroke that was on his boat. So true, why would Bill recommend filling a carnk case with 2 cycle? He wouldn't. he would suggest using 2 cycle oil in a mix for a 2 cycle engine though, so it seems that Bill got some ill concieved info. thinking that Herring had a two strke engine. I'm done. He said, they said, we all said. Enough said. You left out one... YOU LIED. John never asked, or said, the things you keep saying he did. Krause LIES. A LOT -- Harold |
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:57:43 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: Oh, while you're hear, seeing you run detroit "jimmy's" What brand of two stroke oil to you put in the crank cases? Usually Shell Rotella T or Delo 400, straight 40 weight. |
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