My last set of tires wore away completely on the insides long before
the rest of the tread was gone. I was talking to one of my buddies
and he had the same problem. I'm thinking the axle develops a bow in
it. So earlier this spring I left the floor jack under the middle of
it with it jacked up some. Too early to tell if the new tires are
wearing the same or not. Can't measure the distance between them at
the top and bottom cause the street and the boat are in the way so I
don't know if the camber is ok now or not. Anyone else have this
problem and do any investigating?

"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
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My last set of tires wore away completely on the insides long before
the rest of the tread was gone. I was talking to one of my buddies
and he had the same problem. I'm thinking the axle develops a bow in
it. So earlier this spring I left the floor jack under the middle of
it with it jacked up some. Too early to tell if the new tires are
wearing the same or not. Can't measure the distance between them at
the top and bottom cause the street and the boat are in the way so I
don't know if the camber is ok now or not. Anyone else have this
problem and do any investigating?

4 things to check

1 tires- Carlisles are junk. Goodyear Marathons seem to be pretty good
2 camber- Slight negative camber is good (slight upward bend in axle)
3 toe- A little toe in is good. Toe out scrubbs inside of tires and may
cause wandering.
4 tracking- axle is perpendicular to direction of travel

You can measure or observe all of these conditions.

On Jul 6, 1:44*pm, "Harold" wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message

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My last set of tires wore away completely on the insides long before
the rest of the tread was gone. *I was talking to one of my buddies
and he had the same problem. *I'm thinking the axle develops a bow in
it. *So earlier this spring I left the floor jack under the middle of
it with it jacked up some. *Too early to tell if the new tires are
wearing the same or not. *Can't measure the distance between them at
the top and bottom cause the street and the boat are in the way so I
don't know if the camber is ok now or not. *Anyone else have this
problem and do any investigating?

4 things to check

1 tires- Carlisles are junk. Goodyear Marathons seem to be pretty good
2 camber- Slight negative camber is good (slight upward bend in axle)
3 toe- A little toe in is good. Toe out scrubbs inside of tires and may
cause wandering.
4 tracking- axle is perpendicular to direction of travel

You can measure or observe all of these conditions.

I'm thinking my wear pattern rules out 1 and 4. Both sides wore out
on the inside. But more importantly I have a 2" square tube axle so
how do I change 2 or 3 if that might be my problem? And I can't say
that I have been bothered by any wandering.

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On Jul 6, 1:44*pm, "Harold" wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message

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My last set of tires wore away completely on the insides long before
the rest of the tread was gone. *I was talking to one of my buddies
and he had the same problem. *I'm thinking the axle develops a bow in
it. *So earlier this spring I left the floor jack under the middle of
it with it jacked up some. *Too early to tell if the new tires are
wearing the same or not. *Can't measure the distance between them at
the top and bottom cause the street and the boat are in the way so I
don't know if the camber is ok now or not. *Anyone else have this
problem and do any investigating?

4 things to check

1 tires- Carlisles are junk. Goodyear Marathons seem to be pretty good
2 camber- Slight negative camber is good (slight upward bend in axle)
3 toe- A little toe in is good. Toe out scrubbs inside of tires and may
cause wandering.
4 tracking- axle is perpendicular to direction of travel

You can measure or observe all of these conditions.

I'm thinking my wear pattern rules out 1 and 4. Both sides wore out
on the inside. But more importantly I have a 2" square tube axle so
how do I change 2 or 3 if that might be my problem? And I can't say
that I have been bothered by any wandering.

Well, my buds trailer has a pretty good positive camber and from what he
said, it's by design, could be the case with you. As to "suspension"
it's really more about how it performes really. If you have no tracking
or wandering/control problems with the rig, leave it alone, maybe switch
the tires around if they are not directional. Unless you find it's
waaaaay out of spec for some reason, I would consider the price of tires
every few years, a cheap price to pay for a rig you can trust behind
your hauler... Just my .02

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
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On Jul 6, 1:44 pm, "Harold" wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message

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My last set of tires wore away completely on the insides long before
the rest of the tread was gone. I was talking to one of my buddies
and he had the same problem. I'm thinking the axle develops a bow in
it. So earlier this spring I left the floor jack under the middle of
it with it jacked up some. Too early to tell if the new tires are
wearing the same or not. Can't measure the distance between them at
the top and bottom cause the street and the boat are in the way so I
don't know if the camber is ok now or not. Anyone else have this
problem and do any investigating?

4 things to check

1 tires- Carlisles are junk. Goodyear Marathons seem to be pretty good
2 camber- Slight negative camber is good (slight upward bend in axle)
3 toe- A little toe in is good. Toe out scrubbs inside of tires and may
cause wandering.
4 tracking- axle is perpendicular to direction of travel

You can measure or observe all of these conditions.

I'm thinking my wear pattern rules out 1 and 4. Both sides wore out
on the inside. But more importantly I have a 2" square tube axle so
how do I change 2 or 3 if that might be my problem? And I can't say
that I have been bothered by any wandering.

Camber and toe in are best adjusted by an axle shop. It requires bending the
axle.
You can check by raising the tires off the ground spin the tires and make a
scribe mark on the treads all the way around. The scribe must be stationary
while you are doing this.

Measure the distance between marks top and bottom. The difference is camber.
Measure the distance between marks front and back. The distance is toe.
0 to 1/4in is good for toe in. I'm not exactly sure about camber but there
should be some negative camber.

On Jul 6, 2:30*pm, "Harold" wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message

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On Jul 6, 1:44 pm, "Harold" wrote:





"jamesgangnc" wrote in message

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My last set of tires wore away completely on the insides long before
the rest of the tread was gone. I was talking to one of my buddies
and he had the same problem. I'm thinking the axle develops a bow in
it. So earlier this spring I left the floor jack under the middle of
it with it jacked up some. Too early to tell if the new tires are
wearing the same or not. Can't measure the distance between them at
the top and bottom cause the street and the boat are in the way so I
don't know if the camber is ok now or not. Anyone else have this
problem and do any investigating?

4 things to check

1 tires- Carlisles are junk. Goodyear Marathons seem to be pretty good
2 camber- Slight negative camber is good (slight upward bend in axle)
3 toe- A little toe in is good. Toe out scrubbs inside of tires and may
cause wandering.
4 tracking- axle is perpendicular to direction of travel

You can measure or observe all of these conditions.

I'm thinking my wear pattern rules out 1 and 4. *Both sides wore out
on the inside. *But more importantly I have a 2" square tube axle so
how do I change 2 or 3 if that might be my problem? *And I can't say
that I have been bothered by any wandering.

Camber and toe in are best adjusted by an axle shop. It requires bending the
axle.
You can check by raising the tires off the ground spin the tires and make a
scribe mark on the treads all the way around. The scribe must be stationary
while you are doing this.

Measure the distance between marks top and bottom. The difference is camber.
Measure the distance between marks front and back. The distance is toe.
0 to 1/4in is good for toe in. I'm not exactly sure about camber but there
should be some negative camber.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

How do they "bend" an axle?

"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
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On Jul 6, 2:30 pm, "Harold" wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message

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On Jul 6, 1:44 pm, "Harold" wrote:





"jamesgangnc" wrote in message

...

My last set of tires wore away completely on the insides long before
the rest of the tread was gone. I was talking to one of my buddies
and he had the same problem. I'm thinking the axle develops a bow in
it. So earlier this spring I left the floor jack under the middle of
it with it jacked up some. Too early to tell if the new tires are
wearing the same or not. Can't measure the distance between them at
the top and bottom cause the street and the boat are in the way so I
don't know if the camber is ok now or not. Anyone else have this
problem and do any investigating?

4 things to check

1 tires- Carlisles are junk. Goodyear Marathons seem to be pretty good
2 camber- Slight negative camber is good (slight upward bend in axle)
3 toe- A little toe in is good. Toe out scrubbs inside of tires and may
cause wandering.
4 tracking- axle is perpendicular to direction of travel

You can measure or observe all of these conditions.

I'm thinking my wear pattern rules out 1 and 4. Both sides wore out
on the inside. But more importantly I have a 2" square tube axle so
how do I change 2 or 3 if that might be my problem? And I can't say
that I have been bothered by any wandering.

Camber and toe in are best adjusted by an axle shop. It requires bending
the
axle.
You can check by raising the tires off the ground spin the tires and make
a
scribe mark on the treads all the way around. The scribe must be
stationary
while you are doing this.

Measure the distance between marks top and bottom. The difference is
camber.
Measure the distance between marks front and back. The distance is toe.
0 to 1/4in is good for toe in. I'm not exactly sure about camber but there
should be some negative camber.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

How do they "bend" an axle?

With an axle bending tool of course.

"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
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On Jul 6, 2:30 pm, "Harold" wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message

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On Jul 6, 1:44 pm, "Harold" wrote:





"jamesgangnc" wrote in message

...

My last set of tires wore away completely on the insides long before
the rest of the tread was gone. I was talking to one of my buddies
and he had the same problem. I'm thinking the axle develops a bow in
it. So earlier this spring I left the floor jack under the middle of
it with it jacked up some. Too early to tell if the new tires are
wearing the same or not. Can't measure the distance between them at
the top and bottom cause the street and the boat are in the way so I
don't know if the camber is ok now or not. Anyone else have this
problem and do any investigating?

4 things to check

1 tires- Carlisles are junk. Goodyear Marathons seem to be pretty good
2 camber- Slight negative camber is good (slight upward bend in axle)
3 toe- A little toe in is good. Toe out scrubbs inside of tires and may
cause wandering.
4 tracking- axle is perpendicular to direction of travel

You can measure or observe all of these conditions.

I'm thinking my wear pattern rules out 1 and 4. Both sides wore out
on the inside. But more importantly I have a 2" square tube axle so
how do I change 2 or 3 if that might be my problem? And I can't say
that I have been bothered by any wandering.

Camber and toe in are best adjusted by an axle shop. It requires bending
the
axle.
You can check by raising the tires off the ground spin the tires and make
a
scribe mark on the treads all the way around. The scribe must be
stationary
while you are doing this.

Measure the distance between marks top and bottom. The difference is
camber.
Measure the distance between marks front and back. The distance is toe.
0 to 1/4in is good for toe in. I'm not exactly sure about camber but there
should be some negative camber.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

How do they "bend" an axle?

Brute force. :) You can check camber with a framing square on flat
ground.

"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
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My last set of tires wore away completely on the insides long before
the rest of the tread was gone. I was talking to one of my buddies
and he had the same problem. I'm thinking the axle develops a bow in
it. So earlier this spring I left the floor jack under the middle of
it with it jacked up some. Too early to tell if the new tires are
wearing the same or not. Can't measure the distance between them at
the top and bottom cause the street and the boat are in the way so I
don't know if the camber is ok now or not. Anyone else have this
problem and do any investigating?


your on the right track, but it might be time for a new axel.

http://www.easternmarine.com/3500-lb...Trailer-Axles/

Happy wrote:

"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
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My last set of tires wore away completely on the insides long before
the rest of the tread was gone. I was talking to one of my buddies
and he had the same problem. I'm thinking the axle develops a bow in
it. So earlier this spring I left the floor jack under the middle of
it with it jacked up some. Too early to tell if the new tires are
wearing the same or not. Can't measure the distance between them at
the top and bottom cause the street and the boat are in the way so I
don't know if the camber is ok now or not. Anyone else have this
problem and do any investigating?


your on the right track, but it might be time for a new axel.

http://www.easternmarine.com/3500-lb...Trailer-Axles/
Here's another place that's been around for a long time:

http://www.championtrailers.com/SUB_AXLES.htm