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Canuck57[_9_] July 3rd 10 02:09 AM

Lost Hope, No Change
 
On 02/07/2010 1:29 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 2, 2:38 pm, wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
Last month employers eliminated 125,000 jobs and Obama sends many jobs
overseas with his offshore drilling ban. Many workers have simply
given up looking for work causing the rate to drop by a whopping .2%.
Meanwhile, the Obama admin does all it can to stop the oil cleanup.
The definition of insanity has been said to be "Doing the same thing
over and over when you know it does not work" yet the Obama admin
wants to continue to spend huge amounts of money to improve the
economy. We all know they will try to blame Bush for their failures.


I thought that definition read "Doing the same thing over and over again
and expecting different results." Einstein said it.
Been thinking about that.
One of my TVs wouldn't show a picture until I turned it on and off many
times. First started taking 2 times, then 5, then 10, etc.
Then it took about 40 times and my thumb was getting sore turning it off
and on and I got to thinking about what Einstein said.
Was I insane?
Just about then the TV turned on. Then it fixed itself.
Now it always turns on first time, every time.
I didn't beat on it or anything.
It just fixed itself. Been over a month now.
So I started thinking Einstein wasn't so smart.
Then I got to thinking about yanking outboard motor ropes, lawnmower
ropes, chainsaw ropes, and weedwhacker ropes.
Yanking those ropes over and over and over again with same result.
Nothing.
Then, suddenly, those machines roared to life.
So I figure Einstein was just a quitter except with a blackboard.
Probably insane too.

Jim - Ain't claiming I'm smarter than Einstein, just saying...


"I've got it, lets do what didn't work last time and caused massive
unemployment", we'll call it "Hope and Change"


Hey, with Obama should that not be No Hope, No Chance?
--
We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago.

Canuck57[_9_] July 3rd 10 02:23 AM

Lost Hope, No Change
 
On 02/07/2010 3:05 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 10:52:32 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Last month employers eliminated 125,000 jobs and Obama sends many jobs
overseas with his offshore drilling ban


ROFLMAO!! sent jobs overseas!!

HAHAHAHAAH!!!!

how many jobs of fishermen, tourist folks, etc have been lost because
of the destruction of areas in LA, FL etc??

god you're funny!


Probably not near as many as are hyped up to be. All of a sudden
everyone around the Gulf wants to work...LMAO.

As for tourism, many in BC are saying this is going to be the worst year
they can remember. So I wouldn't expect Florida to be much different.
Fact is with civic and state tax sqeeze, lost jobs, lost homes, crappy
state of affairs the tourists are not traveling like they used to. I
was recently in a hotel with 160 rooms and 2 rooms occupied.

. Many workers have simply
given up looking for work causing the rate to drop by a whopping .2%.


yeah. bush screwed the economy royally. he caused the depression. you
cant cure a depression in 2 years. sorry


Reagan did it in 10 months. Obama a sissy?

Meanwhile, the Obama admin does all it can to stop the oil cleanup.
The definition of insanity has been said to be "Doing the same thing
over and over when you know it does not work" yet the Obama admin
wants to continue to spend huge amounts of money to improve the
economy. We all know they will try to blame Bush for their failures.


guess, being right wing, he's too stupid to know it took the US over
10 years to get out of the last one.



Completely yes, but sure signs of recovery from Reagan was 10 months.
Leaving people with their own money in tough times always works better
than GB and bank black holes.

taft did EXACTLY what the righ recommends: slashed spending. that
deepned the depression and caused 25% unemployment

but the right thinks that's OK. it affects only the middle class. not
the rich

the right thinks BP is the victim.


Write ABC or whatever. They should have a show where they take people
at random off the street. The game is called "Can I borrow!".

He who can write the biggest non-bouncing check from newly borrowed
money wins a million.

Could be a hoot.

I remember reading how a 12 year old out performed the markets
consistantly for 2 years in some school thing. Beat out pros, private
investors and every mutual out there.

He was asked how he picked them. His answer was simple. I always pick
winners as winners tend to be winners and I have fewer losers this way.

Lets bet on the middle class and leave them more of their money.

Tell Obama to shove Obamanomics marxism/statism up his ass in November.

--
We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago.

Larry[_23_] July 3rd 10 02:40 AM

Lost Hope, No Change
 
Frogwatch wrote:
Last month employers eliminated 125,000 jobs and Obama sends many jobs
overseas with his offshore drilling ban. Many workers have simply
given up looking for work causing the rate to drop by a whopping .2%.
Meanwhile, the Obama admin does all it can to stop the oil cleanup.
The definition of insanity has been said to be "Doing the same thing
over and over when you know it does not work" yet the Obama admin
wants to continue to spend huge amounts of money to improve the
economy. We all know they will try to blame Bush for their failures.

They are too far past that to blame anyone but themselves.

Larry[_23_] July 3rd 10 02:45 AM

Lost Hope, No Change
 
nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 02/07/2010 11:52 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
Last month employers eliminated 125,000 jobs and Obama sends many jobs
overseas with his offshore drilling ban. Many workers have simply
given up looking for work causing the rate to drop by a whopping .2%.
Meanwhile, the Obama admin does all it can to stop the oil cleanup.
The definition of insanity has been said to be "Doing the same thing
over and over when you know it does not work" yet the Obama admin
wants to continue to spend huge amounts of money to improve the
economy. We all know they will try to blame Bush for their failures.


650,000 people gave up looking for work.

http://ca.news.finance.yahoo.com/s/0...ment-rate.html


That is a bad sign indeed.

But I am sure liberal idiots will think it is a good sign.

And the worst part, even as Obama spends more and more debt moneys,
the government revenue must be tanking. That is, many millions not
paying income taxes and those lucky to get the 33,000 new jobs which
was also down, the wages will be lower.

Hopefully Novemebr will come down hard on Congressional types that
participated in this "liberalism ponzi and corruption" scheme, abet
most be democrats.

Then put a leash on Obamanation. I don't think most people like
Obamanation.

--
We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago.


When they were handing out brains, you thought they said stains, and
you already had one.


Was that on the bar exam?

bpuharic July 3rd 10 04:07 AM

Lost Hope, No Change
 
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 19:07:29 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 02/07/2010 3:08 PM, bpuharic wrote:


ROFLMAO!! notice how the right apologizes to BP for thinking they
should clean up their own mess; they ignoer the tens of thousands
unemployed due to the oil spill...and canuck's method would lead to
25% unemployment.


And with Obama's moritorium on drilling, more will be unemployed while
you ship USDs abroad to buy oil...dumb.


really? and what's it gonna cost to clean up the gulf?

oh. it only affects middle class fishermen, not the rich so they dont
count


ireland slashed govt spending...it destroyed the economy. but canuck
wants that here because it would protect the rich


Didn't have any choice. Their currency was worthless.


like i said...they followed your advice and their economy collapsed

Too many years
of liberalism, debt and currency mismanagement caught up with them.
People who can leave do.


uh no. they followed pure monetarism as advocated by the right wing
chicago school. they had one of the fastest growing economies in the
world

not today.


yeah i love it. the right will bail out BP, give the bill to
unemployed fishermen, then take their boats and give 'em to BP.

i can hardly wait


Neither. Obama will sooner or later go for BP to make it Barack
Petroleum.


now let me get this straight

YOU guys weep for BP. you BITCH about how obama has shut them down.
THEN you say he's gonna bail 'em out

IOW your story varies like the delusions of someone with bipolar
disorder

Either that or he is market manipulating for his insiders,
you know, bash the company then some insiders buy a few 100,000 shares
just before Obama announces it wasn't that bad.


you guys keep making this stuff up. he's gonna confiscate guns...never
happened...he's gonna nationalize GM...never happened

but the right wing...the the memories of fruit flies...keeps churning
out these delusions...

bpuharic July 3rd 10 04:11 AM

Lost Hope, No Change
 
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 19:23:46 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 02/07/2010 3:05 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 10:52:32 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Last month employers eliminated 125,000 jobs and Obama sends many jobs
overseas with his offshore drilling ban


ROFLMAO!! sent jobs overseas!!

HAHAHAHAAH!!!!

how many jobs of fishermen, tourist folks, etc have been lost because
of the destruction of areas in LA, FL etc??

god you're funny!


Probably not near as many as are hyped up to be.


ah, yes...the 'probably' argument...you guys trash the
environment...cost billions in damages...then tell us how lucky we are
to bail out the rich


As for tourism, many in BC are saying this is going to be the worst year
they can remember. So I wouldn't expect Florida to be much different.
Fact is with civic and state tax sqeeze, lost jobs, lost homes, crappy
state of affairs the tourists are not traveling like they used to


well that certainly justifes destroying what little is left, doesnt
it?

.. I
was recently in a hotel with 160 rooms and 2 rooms occupied.

. Many workers have simply
given up looking for work causing the rate to drop by a whopping .2%.


yeah. bush screwed the economy royally. he caused the depression. you
cant cure a depression in 2 years. sorry


Reagan did it in 10 months. Obama a sissy?


ROFLMAO!! reagan didn't have to deal with a depression. and HIS fed
chairman was a guy named paul volker

guess who obama has appointed manager of his economic policy?

and the 2nd guess doesn't count


Meanwhile, the Obama admin does all it can to stop the oil cleanup.
The definition of insanity has been said to be "Doing the same thing
over and over when you know it does not work" yet the Obama admin
wants to continue to spend huge amounts of money to improve the
economy. We all know they will try to blame Bush for their failures.


guess, being right wing, he's too stupid to know it took the US over
10 years to get out of the last one.



Completely yes, but sure signs of recovery from Reagan was 10 months.


reagan's recession was child's play compared to this one


Lets bet on the middle class and leave them more of their money.

Tell Obama to shove Obamanomics marxism/statism up his ass in November.


you guys keep calling obama a marxist

the only socialist pres was bush. he was in favor of socialism for the
rich...as are you


bpuharic July 3rd 10 04:38 AM

Lost Hope, No Change
 
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 19:23:46 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


Reagan did it in 10 months. Obama a sissy?


by the way, here's a nice little chart you should study


http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...d2f0970c-popup


reagan had it easy compared to what bush and reagan did to the
economy...


nom=de=plume[_2_] July 3rd 10 05:26 AM

Lost Hope, No Change
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 02/07/2010 11:52 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
Last month employers eliminated 125,000 jobs and Obama sends many jobs
overseas with his offshore drilling ban. Many workers have simply
given up looking for work causing the rate to drop by a whopping .2%.
Meanwhile, the Obama admin does all it can to stop the oil cleanup.
The definition of insanity has been said to be "Doing the same thing
over and over when you know it does not work" yet the Obama admin
wants to continue to spend huge amounts of money to improve the
economy. We all know they will try to blame Bush for their failures.

650,000 people gave up looking for work.

http://ca.news.finance.yahoo.com/s/0...ment-rate.html

That is a bad sign indeed.

But I am sure liberal idiots will think it is a good sign.

And the worst part, even as Obama spends more and more debt moneys, the
government revenue must be tanking. That is, many millions not paying
income taxes and those lucky to get the 33,000 new jobs which was also
down, the wages will be lower.

Hopefully Novemebr will come down hard on Congressional types that
participated in this "liberalism ponzi and corruption" scheme, abet most
be democrats.

Then put a leash on Obamanation. I don't think most people like
Obamanation.

--
We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago.


When they were handing out brains, you thought they said stains, and you
already had one.


Was that on the bar exam?


It was in your breakfast cereal.


nom=de=plume[_2_] July 3rd 10 05:29 AM

Lost Hope, No Change
 

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 02/07/2010 3:08 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:34:56 -0600,
wrote:

On 02/07/2010 11:52 AM, Frogwatch wrote:
Last month employers eliminated 125,000 jobs and Obama sends many jobs
overseas with his offshore drilling ban. Many workers have simply
given up looking for work causing the rate to drop by a whopping .2%.
Meanwhile, the Obama admin does all it can to stop the oil cleanup.
The definition of insanity has been said to be "Doing the same thing
over and over when you know it does not work" yet the Obama admin
wants to continue to spend huge amounts of money to improve the
economy. We all know they will try to blame Bush for their failures.

650,000 people gave up looking for work.

http://ca.news.finance.yahoo.com/s/0...ment-rate.html

That is a bad sign indeed.

But I am sure liberal idiots will think it is a good sign.


ROFLMAO!! notice how the right apologizes to BP for thinking they
should clean up their own mess; they ignoer the tens of thousands
unemployed due to the oil spill...and canuck's method would lead to
25% unemployment.


And with Obama's moritorium on drilling, more will be unemployed while you
ship USDs abroad to buy oil...dumb.


Dummy... it's a world market. Oil is an international market. It's not US
vs. Saudi Arabia. It's US vs. China FOR THE PURCHASE.

ireland slashed govt spending...it destroyed the economy. but canuck
wants that here because it would protect the rich


Didn't have any choice. Their currency was worthless. Too many years of
liberalism, debt and currency mismanagement caught up with them. People
who can leave do.

Hopefully Novemebr will come down hard on Congressional types that
participated in this "liberalism ponzi and corruption" scheme, abet most
be democrats.


yeah i love it. the right will bail out BP, give the bill to
unemployed fishermen, then take their boats and give 'em to BP.

i can hardly wait


Neither can I. Obama will sooner or later go for BP to make it Barack
Petroleum. Either that or he is market manipulating for his insiders, you
know, bash the company then some insiders buy a few 100,000 shares just
before Obama announces it wasn't that bad. Not sure which yet. Maybe he
hasn't decided? But if you see a good couple of bulk buys from the right
places, could be a good ride.


He's coming for your guns. I just got the message!!! Hide now!!

I can hear how the billing goes. How many tons do you get in 3 months? 4
tons. I didn't hear you, 8 tons! I didn't hear you? Ok, 24 tons. Ok, 24
tons of shrimp on BP.
--
We all work for government, they ceased working for us a long time ago.





Harold[_2_] July 3rd 10 11:14 AM

Lost Hope, No Change
 


reagan had it easy compared to what bush and reagan did to the
economy...

You're getting a little steamed up whiteboy. Go down to the boat, turn the
AC on and relax




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