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Dr Who Duh June 2nd 10 03:24 AM

calling all attention whores [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run away -
 
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:33:09 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Fred C. Dobbs" wrote in message
om...
On 6/1/2010 7:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.


Nope - I just take the cross-postings as I find them.


attention whoring at its finest


the best in unrest, 99% positive fun.

possum June 2nd 10 03:39 AM

Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run away - What should be the practical consequence of the "consideration" Goo wants us to give to animals' lives?
 

"Fred C. Dobbs" wrote in
message
m...
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always
criticizes people, mostly "animal rights activists", for
not giving the lives of livestock animals what Goo feels
is the proper "consideration". This shrill, harping
criticism usually is found along with Goo's incoherent
bull**** about "decent lives of positive value". There
are always major problems with Goo's blabbering, and this
one is no exception.

First, Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - has
never meaningfully explained what this "consideration" is,
nor why it is owed, nor to whom it is owed. It is
virtually a certainty that he is unable to do so. He's
making a moral criticism of people on the basis of
something utterly incoherent.

Secondly, Goo - that's ****wit David Harrison, THE
Goober - has never said what the practical consequence of
this "consideration" should be. Suppose an "animal rights
activist", who believes livestock animals should not
exist, does a comprehensive survey of beef cattle, and
reaches the conclusion: "Yep - most of them appear to me
to have, for the greater part of their lives, 'decent
lives of positive value'", whatever the **** that is
supposed to mean. Suppose further that this "ara" /still/
thinks the human use of animals, particularly killing them
in order to eat them, is inherently wrong. What then?
The "ara" has given the animals all the "consideration"
Goo demands - what is he supposed to /do/ once he's given
the consideration? Goo - ****wit David Harrison, THE
Goober - never says.

Of course, it's completely obvious where Goo is trying to
lead people with this horse**** "consideration" talk. He
expects them to drop their opposition to livestock
husbandry (Goo does not know the meaning of the word
husbandry, but never mind that) and conclude that it is
"good", or at least "not bad", for livestock animals to be
bred into existence in order for humans to kill them and
eat them. But he's given them no basis for changing their
thinking. If the "ara" believes that it is inherently
wrong for humans to breed animals into existence in order
to kill them for our consumption, then the consideration
of their "decent lives of positive value" is pointless;
and if she doesn't believe that, but does believe that
their treatment at the end of their lives in most cases is
so bad that it *outweighs* all the goodness in their lives
up to the end, then there /still/ won't be any practical
consequence deriving from their "consideration".

It's completely obvious that Goo - ****wit David Harrison,
THE Goober - has never really moved away from his original
postition from over 10 years ago:

The animals that will be raised for us to eat
are more than just "nothing", because they
*will* be born unless something stops their
lives from happening. Since that is the case,
if something stops their lives from happening,
whatever it is that stops it is truly "denying"
them of the life they otherwise would have had.
Goo/****wit - 12/09/1999

What gives you the right to want to deprive
them [unborn animals] of having what life they
could have?
Goo/****wit - 10/12/2001

What I'm saying is unfair for the animals that
*could* get to live, is for people not to
consider the fact that they are only keeping
these animals from being killed, by keeping
them from getting to live at all.
Goo/****wit - 10/19/1999

That is, Goo is *STILL* assigning some kind of interest,
today, to animals that don't yet exist. He *STILL*
believes that anyone who thinks no more livestock animals
should exist is being "unfair" to non-existent animals;
wants to "deprive" non-existent animals of something;
wants to "deny" them something to which Goo feels they are
entitled. In short, Goo - ****wit David Harrison -
*still* believes that "aras" want to impose some "loss" on
non-existent animals:

Yes, it is the unborn animals that will be
born if nothing prevents that from happening,
that would experience the loss if their lives
are prevented.
Goo/****wit - 08/01/2000

Because Goo - ****wit - is embarrassed by the ridicule and
derision that his absurd, publicly expressed beliefs bring
down on him, he lies and says that these things he freely
wrote are "mistakes" of terminology. None of these things
Goo has written are mistakes of terminology - they are
mistakes of Goo's thinking. His thinking and beliefs
about this are based on absurdity and nonsense, and so
they are irrational to the point of insanity.


wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?
(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum




Dutch June 2nd 10 04:46 AM

Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run away - What should be the practical consequence of the "consideration" Goo wants us to give to animals' lives?
 
"possum" wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?


"Goo" (short for Goober) is a name dh originally started calling Fred, but
it fits dh better so now they call each other the same name.

(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum


dh believes that AR opponents are missing out on the killer argument against
vegetarians, that eating meat results in livestock animals getting to
experience life, and eating vegetables doesn't, in fact they are denying
life to animals that *would exist* if they would just eat meat. One of his
favorite little gems is the notion that Animal Rights is a "misnomer"
because ARAs want there to be no more livestock. He's a real genius.


Fred C. Dobbs June 2nd 10 05:23 AM

Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run away - What should bethe practical consequence of the "consideration" Goo wants us to give toanimals' lives?
 
On 6/1/2010 8:46 PM, Dutch wrote:
"possum" wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?


"Goo" (short for Goober) is a name


....that fits 'dh@.', aka ****wit David Harrison, to a 'T'.

Lee Frank June 2nd 10 06:06 AM

invitation [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run away -
 

"Fred C. Dobbs" wrote in message
m...
On 6/1/2010 4:03 PM, Le Moose wrote:
On 6/1/2010 6:56 PM, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
On 6/1/2010 3:15 PM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 5:46 PM, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
On 6/1/2010 2:26 PM, Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Coward -
bull****ted:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 07:44:52 -0700, "Fred C. Dobbs"
wrote:

On 6/1/2010 7:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes
people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Nope - I just take the cross-postings as I find them.

LOL!!!

You're still running away, Goo. You will not - because you *cannot* -
answer the question, Goo.


If you are looking for assholes, try rec.boats....

Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Coward - hangs out there as well,
being an asshole there the same as he is here.



flajim, moose, tosk, justhate, herring, loogy...

there for the picking.


Could it be that this goo guy is Harry Krause AKA HK?


Goo is David Harrison. Harrison legally changed his name circa 2001 to
****wit David Harrison. He owns and lives on a ****ty houseboat on Lake
Lanier, near Atlanta, which is why he hangs around (and pollutes)
rec.boats. He doesn't know squatty-doo about boats. He does know
something about breeding animals for illegal (and immoral) animal combat.

****wit David Harrison is a liar and a coward.


so fred, what can we do for
you here in the zen groups?


Lee Frank June 2nd 10 06:07 AM

invitation part deux [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run
 

"Le Moose" wrote in message
...
On 6/1/2010 6:56 PM, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
On 6/1/2010 3:15 PM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 5:46 PM, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
On 6/1/2010 2:26 PM, Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Coward -
bull****ted:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 07:44:52 -0700, "Fred C. Dobbs"
wrote:

On 6/1/2010 7:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes
people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Nope - I just take the cross-postings as I find them.

LOL!!!

You're still running away, Goo. You will not - because you *cannot* -
answer the question, Goo.


If you are looking for assholes, try rec.boats....


Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Coward - hangs out there as well,
being an asshole there the same as he is here.



flajim, moose, tosk, justhate, herring, loogy...

there for the picking.


Could it be that this goo guy is Harry Krause AKA HK?


so le moose, what can we do for
you here in the zen groups ?


Lee Frank June 2nd 10 06:08 AM

behoovence [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run a
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:40 AM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Can you imagine someone else having that much power over *you*? I sure
can't.

Mr. Dobbs needs to either grow a pair, or see his therapist more often.

DT

Julian is just another screen name for John Herring, of rec.boats. His
buddies in rec.boats are flajim, moose, loogy, tosk, justwaitafreak,
larry, dan krueger, et cetera.



You can thank your buddy John Herring for the above post, since in this
case I am following his example.

I have an idea I might implement. So long as Herring persists in his
snottiness, and so long as our ID spoofers/ID name changers continue in
their ways, I'm going to do what *I* can do to crosspost to as many
newsgroups as possible, and see who turns up here. If and when it starts
to annoy you, you can put pressure on Herring and the ID
spoofers/changers.

You pal, Don aka YukonBound, will stop you since he has made it his goal
to clean up this group.


so tell us larry, has your visit
here in the zen groups been
quite fruitful for you?


Dr Who Duh June 2nd 10 06:08 AM

invitation part deux [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run
 
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:07:16 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Le Moose" wrote in message
...
On 6/1/2010 6:56 PM, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
On 6/1/2010 3:15 PM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 5:46 PM, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
On 6/1/2010 2:26 PM, Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Coward -
bull****ted:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 07:44:52 -0700, "Fred C. Dobbs"
wrote:

On 6/1/2010 7:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes
people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Nope - I just take the cross-postings as I find them.

LOL!!!

You're still running away, Goo. You will not - because you *cannot* -
answer the question, Goo.


If you are looking for assholes, try rec.boats....

Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Coward - hangs out there as well,
being an asshole there the same as he is here.



flajim, moose, tosk, justhate, herring, loogy...

there for the picking.


Could it be that this goo guy is Harry Krause AKA HK?


so le moose, what can we do for
you here in the zen groups ?


backdrops

Lee Frank June 2nd 10 06:10 AM

enlightenment on tap [ waznt Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run amok
 

"YukonBound" wrote in message
...


"Larry" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:40 AM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Can you imagine someone else having that much power over *you*? I sure
can't.

Mr. Dobbs needs to either grow a pair, or see his therapist more
often.

DT

Julian is just another screen name for John Herring, of rec.boats. His
buddies in rec.boats are flajim, moose, loogy, tosk, justwaitafreak,
larry, dan krueger, et cetera.



You can thank your buddy John Herring for the above post, since in this
case I am following his example.

I have an idea I might implement. So long as Herring persists in his
snottiness, and so long as our ID spoofers/ID name changers continue in
their ways, I'm going to do what *I* can do to crosspost to as many
newsgroups as possible, and see who turns up here. If and when it starts
to annoy you, you can put pressure on Herring and the ID
spoofers/changers.

You pal, Don aka YukonBound, will stop you since he has made it his goal
to clean up this group.


Sometimes you have to resort to extreme measures to reach a goal.
Remember your country's nuking of Japan...... not once, but twice.


so yukon bound, has your visit here
in the zen groups been a highly
enlightening experience for you?


Dr Who Duh June 2nd 10 06:10 AM

behoovence [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run a
 
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:08:45 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:40 AM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Can you imagine someone else having that much power over *you*? I sure
can't.

Mr. Dobbs needs to either grow a pair, or see his therapist more often.

DT

Julian is just another screen name for John Herring, of rec.boats. His
buddies in rec.boats are flajim, moose, loogy, tosk, justwaitafreak,
larry, dan krueger, et cetera.



You can thank your buddy John Herring for the above post, since in this
case I am following his example.

I have an idea I might implement. So long as Herring persists in his
snottiness, and so long as our ID spoofers/ID name changers continue in
their ways, I'm going to do what *I* can do to crosspost to as many
newsgroups as possible, and see who turns up here. If and when it starts
to annoy you, you can put pressure on Herring and the ID
spoofers/changers.

You pal, Don aka YukonBound, will stop you since he has made it his goal
to clean up this group.


so tell us larry, has your visit
here in the zen groups been
quite fruitful for you?


fruitality!


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