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Dr Who Duh June 2nd 10 03:24 AM

calling all attention whores [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run away -
 
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:33:09 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Fred C. Dobbs" wrote in message
om...
On 6/1/2010 7:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.


Nope - I just take the cross-postings as I find them.


attention whoring at its finest


the best in unrest, 99% positive fun.

possum June 2nd 10 03:39 AM

Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run away - What should be the practical consequence of the "consideration" Goo wants us to give to animals' lives?
 

"Fred C. Dobbs" wrote in
message
m...
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always
criticizes people, mostly "animal rights activists", for
not giving the lives of livestock animals what Goo feels
is the proper "consideration". This shrill, harping
criticism usually is found along with Goo's incoherent
bull**** about "decent lives of positive value". There
are always major problems with Goo's blabbering, and this
one is no exception.

First, Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - has
never meaningfully explained what this "consideration" is,
nor why it is owed, nor to whom it is owed. It is
virtually a certainty that he is unable to do so. He's
making a moral criticism of people on the basis of
something utterly incoherent.

Secondly, Goo - that's ****wit David Harrison, THE
Goober - has never said what the practical consequence of
this "consideration" should be. Suppose an "animal rights
activist", who believes livestock animals should not
exist, does a comprehensive survey of beef cattle, and
reaches the conclusion: "Yep - most of them appear to me
to have, for the greater part of their lives, 'decent
lives of positive value'", whatever the **** that is
supposed to mean. Suppose further that this "ara" /still/
thinks the human use of animals, particularly killing them
in order to eat them, is inherently wrong. What then?
The "ara" has given the animals all the "consideration"
Goo demands - what is he supposed to /do/ once he's given
the consideration? Goo - ****wit David Harrison, THE
Goober - never says.

Of course, it's completely obvious where Goo is trying to
lead people with this horse**** "consideration" talk. He
expects them to drop their opposition to livestock
husbandry (Goo does not know the meaning of the word
husbandry, but never mind that) and conclude that it is
"good", or at least "not bad", for livestock animals to be
bred into existence in order for humans to kill them and
eat them. But he's given them no basis for changing their
thinking. If the "ara" believes that it is inherently
wrong for humans to breed animals into existence in order
to kill them for our consumption, then the consideration
of their "decent lives of positive value" is pointless;
and if she doesn't believe that, but does believe that
their treatment at the end of their lives in most cases is
so bad that it *outweighs* all the goodness in their lives
up to the end, then there /still/ won't be any practical
consequence deriving from their "consideration".

It's completely obvious that Goo - ****wit David Harrison,
THE Goober - has never really moved away from his original
postition from over 10 years ago:

The animals that will be raised for us to eat
are more than just "nothing", because they
*will* be born unless something stops their
lives from happening. Since that is the case,
if something stops their lives from happening,
whatever it is that stops it is truly "denying"
them of the life they otherwise would have had.
Goo/****wit - 12/09/1999

What gives you the right to want to deprive
them [unborn animals] of having what life they
could have?
Goo/****wit - 10/12/2001

What I'm saying is unfair for the animals that
*could* get to live, is for people not to
consider the fact that they are only keeping
these animals from being killed, by keeping
them from getting to live at all.
Goo/****wit - 10/19/1999

That is, Goo is *STILL* assigning some kind of interest,
today, to animals that don't yet exist. He *STILL*
believes that anyone who thinks no more livestock animals
should exist is being "unfair" to non-existent animals;
wants to "deprive" non-existent animals of something;
wants to "deny" them something to which Goo feels they are
entitled. In short, Goo - ****wit David Harrison -
*still* believes that "aras" want to impose some "loss" on
non-existent animals:

Yes, it is the unborn animals that will be
born if nothing prevents that from happening,
that would experience the loss if their lives
are prevented.
Goo/****wit - 08/01/2000

Because Goo - ****wit - is embarrassed by the ridicule and
derision that his absurd, publicly expressed beliefs bring
down on him, he lies and says that these things he freely
wrote are "mistakes" of terminology. None of these things
Goo has written are mistakes of terminology - they are
mistakes of Goo's thinking. His thinking and beliefs
about this are based on absurdity and nonsense, and so
they are irrational to the point of insanity.


wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?
(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum




Dutch June 2nd 10 04:46 AM

Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run away - What should be the practical consequence of the "consideration" Goo wants us to give to animals' lives?
 
"possum" wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?


"Goo" (short for Goober) is a name dh originally started calling Fred, but
it fits dh better so now they call each other the same name.

(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum


dh believes that AR opponents are missing out on the killer argument against
vegetarians, that eating meat results in livestock animals getting to
experience life, and eating vegetables doesn't, in fact they are denying
life to animals that *would exist* if they would just eat meat. One of his
favorite little gems is the notion that Animal Rights is a "misnomer"
because ARAs want there to be no more livestock. He's a real genius.


Fred C. Dobbs June 2nd 10 05:23 AM

Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run away - What should bethe practical consequence of the "consideration" Goo wants us to give toanimals' lives?
 
On 6/1/2010 8:46 PM, Dutch wrote:
"possum" wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?


"Goo" (short for Goober) is a name


....that fits 'dh@.', aka ****wit David Harrison, to a 'T'.

Lee Frank June 2nd 10 06:06 AM

invitation [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run away -
 

"Fred C. Dobbs" wrote in message
m...
On 6/1/2010 4:03 PM, Le Moose wrote:
On 6/1/2010 6:56 PM, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
On 6/1/2010 3:15 PM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 5:46 PM, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
On 6/1/2010 2:26 PM, Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Coward -
bull****ted:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 07:44:52 -0700, "Fred C. Dobbs"
wrote:

On 6/1/2010 7:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes
people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Nope - I just take the cross-postings as I find them.

LOL!!!

You're still running away, Goo. You will not - because you *cannot* -
answer the question, Goo.


If you are looking for assholes, try rec.boats....

Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Coward - hangs out there as well,
being an asshole there the same as he is here.



flajim, moose, tosk, justhate, herring, loogy...

there for the picking.


Could it be that this goo guy is Harry Krause AKA HK?


Goo is David Harrison. Harrison legally changed his name circa 2001 to
****wit David Harrison. He owns and lives on a ****ty houseboat on Lake
Lanier, near Atlanta, which is why he hangs around (and pollutes)
rec.boats. He doesn't know squatty-doo about boats. He does know
something about breeding animals for illegal (and immoral) animal combat.

****wit David Harrison is a liar and a coward.


so fred, what can we do for
you here in the zen groups?


Lee Frank June 2nd 10 06:07 AM

invitation part deux [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run
 

"Le Moose" wrote in message
...
On 6/1/2010 6:56 PM, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
On 6/1/2010 3:15 PM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 5:46 PM, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
On 6/1/2010 2:26 PM, Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Coward -
bull****ted:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 07:44:52 -0700, "Fred C. Dobbs"
wrote:

On 6/1/2010 7:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes
people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Nope - I just take the cross-postings as I find them.

LOL!!!

You're still running away, Goo. You will not - because you *cannot* -
answer the question, Goo.


If you are looking for assholes, try rec.boats....


Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Coward - hangs out there as well,
being an asshole there the same as he is here.



flajim, moose, tosk, justhate, herring, loogy...

there for the picking.


Could it be that this goo guy is Harry Krause AKA HK?


so le moose, what can we do for
you here in the zen groups ?


Lee Frank June 2nd 10 06:08 AM

behoovence [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run a
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:40 AM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Can you imagine someone else having that much power over *you*? I sure
can't.

Mr. Dobbs needs to either grow a pair, or see his therapist more often.

DT

Julian is just another screen name for John Herring, of rec.boats. His
buddies in rec.boats are flajim, moose, loogy, tosk, justwaitafreak,
larry, dan krueger, et cetera.



You can thank your buddy John Herring for the above post, since in this
case I am following his example.

I have an idea I might implement. So long as Herring persists in his
snottiness, and so long as our ID spoofers/ID name changers continue in
their ways, I'm going to do what *I* can do to crosspost to as many
newsgroups as possible, and see who turns up here. If and when it starts
to annoy you, you can put pressure on Herring and the ID
spoofers/changers.

You pal, Don aka YukonBound, will stop you since he has made it his goal
to clean up this group.


so tell us larry, has your visit
here in the zen groups been
quite fruitful for you?


Dr Who Duh June 2nd 10 06:08 AM

invitation part deux [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run
 
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:07:16 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Le Moose" wrote in message
...
On 6/1/2010 6:56 PM, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
On 6/1/2010 3:15 PM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 5:46 PM, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
On 6/1/2010 2:26 PM, Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Coward -
bull****ted:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 07:44:52 -0700, "Fred C. Dobbs"
wrote:

On 6/1/2010 7:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes
people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Nope - I just take the cross-postings as I find them.

LOL!!!

You're still running away, Goo. You will not - because you *cannot* -
answer the question, Goo.


If you are looking for assholes, try rec.boats....

Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Coward - hangs out there as well,
being an asshole there the same as he is here.



flajim, moose, tosk, justhate, herring, loogy...

there for the picking.


Could it be that this goo guy is Harry Krause AKA HK?


so le moose, what can we do for
you here in the zen groups ?


backdrops

Lee Frank June 2nd 10 06:10 AM

enlightenment on tap [ waznt Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run amok
 

"YukonBound" wrote in message
...


"Larry" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:40 AM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Can you imagine someone else having that much power over *you*? I sure
can't.

Mr. Dobbs needs to either grow a pair, or see his therapist more
often.

DT

Julian is just another screen name for John Herring, of rec.boats. His
buddies in rec.boats are flajim, moose, loogy, tosk, justwaitafreak,
larry, dan krueger, et cetera.



You can thank your buddy John Herring for the above post, since in this
case I am following his example.

I have an idea I might implement. So long as Herring persists in his
snottiness, and so long as our ID spoofers/ID name changers continue in
their ways, I'm going to do what *I* can do to crosspost to as many
newsgroups as possible, and see who turns up here. If and when it starts
to annoy you, you can put pressure on Herring and the ID
spoofers/changers.

You pal, Don aka YukonBound, will stop you since he has made it his goal
to clean up this group.


Sometimes you have to resort to extreme measures to reach a goal.
Remember your country's nuking of Japan...... not once, but twice.


so yukon bound, has your visit here
in the zen groups been a highly
enlightening experience for you?


Dr Who Duh June 2nd 10 06:10 AM

behoovence [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run a
 
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:08:45 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:40 AM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Can you imagine someone else having that much power over *you*? I sure
can't.

Mr. Dobbs needs to either grow a pair, or see his therapist more often.

DT

Julian is just another screen name for John Herring, of rec.boats. His
buddies in rec.boats are flajim, moose, loogy, tosk, justwaitafreak,
larry, dan krueger, et cetera.



You can thank your buddy John Herring for the above post, since in this
case I am following his example.

I have an idea I might implement. So long as Herring persists in his
snottiness, and so long as our ID spoofers/ID name changers continue in
their ways, I'm going to do what *I* can do to crosspost to as many
newsgroups as possible, and see who turns up here. If and when it starts
to annoy you, you can put pressure on Herring and the ID
spoofers/changers.

You pal, Don aka YukonBound, will stop you since he has made it his goal
to clean up this group.


so tell us larry, has your visit
here in the zen groups been
quite fruitful for you?


fruitality!

Lee Frank June 2nd 10 06:11 AM

remembering membershipping [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run away - What should be the practical consequence of the "consideration" Goo wants us to give to animals' lives?
 

"zenworm" wrote in message
...
On Jun 1, 8:14 pm, "YukonBound" wrote:
"Larry" wrote in message

...





hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:40 AM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes people


I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.


Julian, Julian, Julian!


Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.


Can you imagine someone else having that much power over *you*? I
sure
can't.


Mr. Dobbs needs to either grow a pair, or see his therapist more
often.


DT


Julian is just another screen name for John Herring, of rec.boats. His
buddies in rec.boats are flajim, moose, loogy, tosk, justwaitafreak,
larry, dan krueger, et cetera.


You can thank your buddy John Herring for the above post, since in this
case I am following his example.


I have an idea I might implement. So long as Herring persists in his
snottiness, and so long as our ID spoofers/ID name changers continue in
their ways, I'm going to do what *I* can do to crosspost to as many
newsgroups as possible, and see who turns up here. If and when it
starts
to annoy you, you can put pressure on Herring and the ID
spoofers/changers.


You pal, Don aka YukonBound, will stop you since he has made it his goal
to clean up this group.


Sometimes you have to resort to extreme measures to reach a goal.
Remember your country's nuking of Japan...... not once, but twice.



REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!


why? it doesn't remember me.


Lee Frank June 2nd 10 06:13 AM

zennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn [ wazn't Goo-the-Coward Harrison cont
 

"Dutch" wrote in message
...
"possum" wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?


"Goo" (short for Goober) is a name dh originally started calling Fred, but
it fits dh better so now they call each other the same name.

(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum


dh believes that AR opponents are missing out on the killer argument
against vegetarians, that eating meat results in livestock animals getting
to experience life, and eating vegetables doesn't, in fact they are
denying life to animals that *would exist* if they would just eat meat.
One of his favorite little gems is the notion that Animal Rights is a
"misnomer" because ARAs want there to be no more livestock. He's a real
genius.


so tell us dutch, how long have
you been interested in zen ?


Lee Frank June 2nd 10 06:18 AM

behoovence [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run a
 

"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:08:45 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:40 AM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Can you imagine someone else having that much power over *you*? I
sure
can't.

Mr. Dobbs needs to either grow a pair, or see his therapist more
often.

DT

Julian is just another screen name for John Herring, of rec.boats. His
buddies in rec.boats are flajim, moose, loogy, tosk, justwaitafreak,
larry, dan krueger, et cetera.



You can thank your buddy John Herring for the above post, since in this
case I am following his example.

I have an idea I might implement. So long as Herring persists in his
snottiness, and so long as our ID spoofers/ID name changers continue in
their ways, I'm going to do what *I* can do to crosspost to as many
newsgroups as possible, and see who turns up here. If and when it
starts
to annoy you, you can put pressure on Herring and the ID
spoofers/changers.

You pal, Don aka YukonBound, will stop you since he has made it his goal
to clean up this group.


so tell us larry, has your visit
here in the zen groups been
quite fruitful for you?


fruitality!


does everyone in australia
still eat their young?


Dr Who Duh June 2nd 10 06:19 AM

zennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn [ wazn't Goo-the-Coward Harrison cont
 
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:13:23 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dutch" wrote in message
...
"possum" wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?


"Goo" (short for Goober) is a name dh originally started calling Fred, but
it fits dh better so now they call each other the same name.

(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum


dh believes that AR opponents are missing out on the killer argument
against vegetarians, that eating meat results in livestock animals getting
to experience life, and eating vegetables doesn't, in fact they are
denying life to animals that *would exist* if they would just eat meat.
One of his favorite little gems is the notion that Animal Rights is a
"misnomer" because ARAs want there to be no more livestock. He's a real
genius.


so tell us dutch, how long have
you been interested in zen ?


you are filling up space each time you change the topic. try to keep
it inside the thread. we do like to be particular in these matters mm.

Dr Who Duh June 2nd 10 06:21 AM

behoovence [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run a
 
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:18:30 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:08:45 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:40 AM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Can you imagine someone else having that much power over *you*? I
sure
can't.

Mr. Dobbs needs to either grow a pair, or see his therapist more
often.

DT

Julian is just another screen name for John Herring, of rec.boats. His
buddies in rec.boats are flajim, moose, loogy, tosk, justwaitafreak,
larry, dan krueger, et cetera.



You can thank your buddy John Herring for the above post, since in this
case I am following his example.

I have an idea I might implement. So long as Herring persists in his
snottiness, and so long as our ID spoofers/ID name changers continue in
their ways, I'm going to do what *I* can do to crosspost to as many
newsgroups as possible, and see who turns up here. If and when it
starts
to annoy you, you can put pressure on Herring and the ID
spoofers/changers.

You pal, Don aka YukonBound, will stop you since he has made it his goal
to clean up this group.

so tell us larry, has your visit
here in the zen groups been
quite fruitful for you?


fruitality!


does everyone in australia
still eat their young?


another rumour started by paul hogan... he's the only one.

Lee Frank June 2nd 10 06:22 AM

zennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn [ wazn't Goo-the-Coward Harrison cont
 

"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:13:23 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dutch" wrote in message
...
"possum" wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?

"Goo" (short for Goober) is a name dh originally started calling Fred,
but
it fits dh better so now they call each other the same name.

(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum

dh believes that AR opponents are missing out on the killer argument
against vegetarians, that eating meat results in livestock animals
getting
to experience life, and eating vegetables doesn't, in fact they are
denying life to animals that *would exist* if they would just eat meat.
One of his favorite little gems is the notion that Animal Rights is a
"misnomer" because ARAs want there to be no more livestock. He's a real
genius.


so tell us dutch, how long have
you been interested in zen ?


you are filling up space each time you change the topic. try to keep
it inside the thread. we do like to be particular in these matters mm.


have they invented toilet
paper in australia yet?


Dr Who Duh June 2nd 10 06:25 AM

zennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn [ wazn't Goo-the-Coward Harrison cont
 
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:22:52 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:13:23 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dutch" wrote in message
...
"possum" wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?

"Goo" (short for Goober) is a name dh originally started calling Fred,
but
it fits dh better so now they call each other the same name.

(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum

dh believes that AR opponents are missing out on the killer argument
against vegetarians, that eating meat results in livestock animals
getting
to experience life, and eating vegetables doesn't, in fact they are
denying life to animals that *would exist* if they would just eat meat.
One of his favorite little gems is the notion that Animal Rights is a
"misnomer" because ARAs want there to be no more livestock. He's a real
genius.

so tell us dutch, how long have
you been interested in zen ?


you are filling up space each time you change the topic. try to keep
it inside the thread. we do like to be particular in these matters mm.


have they invented toilet
paper in australia yet?


i thought mr. crapper was one of ours?

Lee Frank June 2nd 10 06:26 AM

behoovence [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run a
 

"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:18:30 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:08:45 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:40 AM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes
people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Can you imagine someone else having that much power over *you*? I
sure
can't.

Mr. Dobbs needs to either grow a pair, or see his therapist more
often.

DT

Julian is just another screen name for John Herring, of rec.boats.
His
buddies in rec.boats are flajim, moose, loogy, tosk, justwaitafreak,
larry, dan krueger, et cetera.



You can thank your buddy John Herring for the above post, since in
this
case I am following his example.

I have an idea I might implement. So long as Herring persists in his
snottiness, and so long as our ID spoofers/ID name changers continue
in
their ways, I'm going to do what *I* can do to crosspost to as many
newsgroups as possible, and see who turns up here. If and when it
starts
to annoy you, you can put pressure on Herring and the ID
spoofers/changers.

You pal, Don aka YukonBound, will stop you since he has made it his
goal
to clean up this group.

so tell us larry, has your visit
here in the zen groups been
quite fruitful for you?

fruitality!


does everyone in australia
still eat their young?


another rumour started by paul hogan... he's the only one.


that's so [ab]original


Lee Frank June 2nd 10 06:28 AM

zennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn [ wazn't Goo-the-Coward Harrison cont
 

"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:22:52 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:13:23 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dutch" wrote in message
...
"possum" wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?

"Goo" (short for Goober) is a name dh originally started calling Fred,
but
it fits dh better so now they call each other the same name.

(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum

dh believes that AR opponents are missing out on the killer argument
against vegetarians, that eating meat results in livestock animals
getting
to experience life, and eating vegetables doesn't, in fact they are
denying life to animals that *would exist* if they would just eat
meat.
One of his favorite little gems is the notion that Animal Rights is a
"misnomer" because ARAs want there to be no more livestock. He's a
real
genius.

so tell us dutch, how long have
you been interested in zen ?

you are filling up space each time you change the topic. try to keep
it inside the thread. we do like to be particular in these matters mm.


have they invented toilet
paper in australia yet?


i thought mr. crapper was one of ours?


you guys invented the crapper clapper


Dr Who Duh June 2nd 10 06:30 AM

behoovence [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run a
 
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:26:42 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:18:30 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:08:45 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:40 AM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes
people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Can you imagine someone else having that much power over *you*? I
sure
can't.

Mr. Dobbs needs to either grow a pair, or see his therapist more
often.

DT

Julian is just another screen name for John Herring, of rec.boats.
His
buddies in rec.boats are flajim, moose, loogy, tosk, justwaitafreak,
larry, dan krueger, et cetera.



You can thank your buddy John Herring for the above post, since in
this
case I am following his example.

I have an idea I might implement. So long as Herring persists in his
snottiness, and so long as our ID spoofers/ID name changers continue
in
their ways, I'm going to do what *I* can do to crosspost to as many
newsgroups as possible, and see who turns up here. If and when it
starts
to annoy you, you can put pressure on Herring and the ID
spoofers/changers.

You pal, Don aka YukonBound, will stop you since he has made it his
goal
to clean up this group.

so tell us larry, has your visit
here in the zen groups been
quite fruitful for you?

fruitality!

does everyone in australia
still eat their young?


another rumour started by paul hogan... he's the only one.


that's so [ab]original


supposedly they ate their children if they died young, i don't know
why if it was a belief system or simply a waste of flesh not to do it.

they don't like having their groupmind publically scrutinized.

Dr Who Duh June 2nd 10 06:31 AM

zennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn [ wazn't Goo-the-Coward Harrison cont
 
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:28:37 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:22:52 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:13:23 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dutch" wrote in message
...
"possum" wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?

"Goo" (short for Goober) is a name dh originally started calling Fred,
but
it fits dh better so now they call each other the same name.

(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum

dh believes that AR opponents are missing out on the killer argument
against vegetarians, that eating meat results in livestock animals
getting
to experience life, and eating vegetables doesn't, in fact they are
denying life to animals that *would exist* if they would just eat
meat.
One of his favorite little gems is the notion that Animal Rights is a
"misnomer" because ARAs want there to be no more livestock. He's a
real
genius.

so tell us dutch, how long have
you been interested in zen ?

you are filling up space each time you change the topic. try to keep
it inside the thread. we do like to be particular in these matters mm.

have they invented toilet
paper in australia yet?


i thought mr. crapper was one of ours?


you guys invented the crapper clapper


i think our connection to holland rubbed off some dirty jokes.

Lee Frank June 2nd 10 06:33 AM

behoovence [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run a
 

"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:26:42 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:18:30 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:08:45 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:40 AM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes
people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Can you imagine someone else having that much power over *you*? I
sure
can't.

Mr. Dobbs needs to either grow a pair, or see his therapist more
often.

DT

Julian is just another screen name for John Herring, of rec.boats.
His
buddies in rec.boats are flajim, moose, loogy, tosk,
justwaitafreak,
larry, dan krueger, et cetera.



You can thank your buddy John Herring for the above post, since in
this
case I am following his example.

I have an idea I might implement. So long as Herring persists in
his
snottiness, and so long as our ID spoofers/ID name changers
continue
in
their ways, I'm going to do what *I* can do to crosspost to as many
newsgroups as possible, and see who turns up here. If and when it
starts
to annoy you, you can put pressure on Herring and the ID
spoofers/changers.

You pal, Don aka YukonBound, will stop you since he has made it his
goal
to clean up this group.

so tell us larry, has your visit
here in the zen groups been
quite fruitful for you?

fruitality!

does everyone in australia
still eat their young?

another rumour started by paul hogan... he's the only one.


that's so [ab]original


supposedly they ate their children if they died young, i don't know
why if it was a belief system or simply a waste of flesh not to do it.

they don't like having their groupmind publically scrutinized.


i think they're an offshoot
of the albino druid illuminati.


Lee Frank June 2nd 10 06:36 AM

zennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn [ wazn't Goo-the-Coward Harrison cont
 

"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:28:37 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:22:52 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:13:23 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dutch" wrote in message
...
"possum" wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?

"Goo" (short for Goober) is a name dh originally started calling
Fred,
but
it fits dh better so now they call each other the same name.

(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum

dh believes that AR opponents are missing out on the killer argument
against vegetarians, that eating meat results in livestock animals
getting
to experience life, and eating vegetables doesn't, in fact they are
denying life to animals that *would exist* if they would just eat
meat.
One of his favorite little gems is the notion that Animal Rights is
a
"misnomer" because ARAs want there to be no more livestock. He's a
real
genius.

so tell us dutch, how long have
you been interested in zen ?

you are filling up space each time you change the topic. try to keep
it inside the thread. we do like to be particular in these matters mm.

have they invented toilet
paper in australia yet?

i thought mr. crapper was one of ours?


you guys invented the crapper clapper


i think our connection to holland rubbed off some dirty jokes.


you can't coitus interruptus the dutch?


Dr Who Duh June 2nd 10 06:36 AM

behoovence [ waz Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run a
 
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:33:20 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:26:42 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:18:30 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:08:45 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:40 AM, hk wrote:
On 6/1/10 10:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes
people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Can you imagine someone else having that much power over *you*? I
sure
can't.

Mr. Dobbs needs to either grow a pair, or see his therapist more
often.

DT

Julian is just another screen name for John Herring, of rec.boats.
His
buddies in rec.boats are flajim, moose, loogy, tosk,
justwaitafreak,
larry, dan krueger, et cetera.



You can thank your buddy John Herring for the above post, since in
this
case I am following his example.

I have an idea I might implement. So long as Herring persists in
his
snottiness, and so long as our ID spoofers/ID name changers
continue
in
their ways, I'm going to do what *I* can do to crosspost to as many
newsgroups as possible, and see who turns up here. If and when it
starts
to annoy you, you can put pressure on Herring and the ID
spoofers/changers.

You pal, Don aka YukonBound, will stop you since he has made it his
goal
to clean up this group.

so tell us larry, has your visit
here in the zen groups been
quite fruitful for you?

fruitality!

does everyone in australia
still eat their young?

another rumour started by paul hogan... he's the only one.

that's so [ab]original


supposedly they ate their children if they died young, i don't know
why if it was a belief system or simply a waste of flesh not to do it.

they don't like having their groupmind publically scrutinized.


i think they're an offshoot
of the albino druid illuminati.


minus the albinos and the toilets.

Dr Who Duh June 2nd 10 06:39 AM

zennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn [ wazn't Goo-the-Coward Harrison cont
 
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:36:09 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:28:37 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:22:52 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dr Who Duh" wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:13:23 -0400, "Lee Frank"
wrote:


"Dutch" wrote in message
...
"possum" wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?

"Goo" (short for Goober) is a name dh originally started calling
Fred,
but
it fits dh better so now they call each other the same name.

(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum

dh believes that AR opponents are missing out on the killer argument
against vegetarians, that eating meat results in livestock animals
getting
to experience life, and eating vegetables doesn't, in fact they are
denying life to animals that *would exist* if they would just eat
meat.
One of his favorite little gems is the notion that Animal Rights is
a
"misnomer" because ARAs want there to be no more livestock. He's a
real
genius.

so tell us dutch, how long have
you been interested in zen ?

you are filling up space each time you change the topic. try to keep
it inside the thread. we do like to be particular in these matters mm.

have they invented toilet
paper in australia yet?

i thought mr. crapper was one of ours?

you guys invented the crapper clapper


i think our connection to holland rubbed off some dirty jokes.


you can't coitus interruptus the dutch?


my mother is dutch and i know from various uncles and granduncles that
they like toilet humour and are fairly open minded... if a bit nuts.

Dutch June 2nd 10 09:31 AM

zennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn [ wazn't Goo-the-Coward Harrison cont
 

"Lee Frank" wrote in message
m...

"Dutch" wrote in message
...
"possum" wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?


"Goo" (short for Goober) is a name dh originally started calling Fred,
but it fits dh better so now they call each other the same name.

(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum


dh believes that AR opponents are missing out on the killer argument
against vegetarians, that eating meat results in livestock animals
getting to experience life, and eating vegetables doesn't, in fact they
are denying life to animals that *would exist* if they would just eat
meat. One of his favorite little gems is the notion that Animal Rights is
a "misnomer" because ARAs want there to be no more livestock. He's a real
genius.


so tell us dutch, how long have
you been interested in zen ?


What's zen?


niunian June 2nd 10 11:20 AM

zennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn [ wazn't Goo-the-Coward Harrison cont
 
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:31:30 -0700, "Dutch" wrote:


"Lee Frank" wrote in message
om...

"Dutch" wrote in message
...
"possum" wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?

"Goo" (short for Goober) is a name dh originally started calling Fred,
but it fits dh better so now they call each other the same name.

(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum

dh believes that AR opponents are missing out on the killer argument
against vegetarians, that eating meat results in livestock animals
getting to experience life, and eating vegetables doesn't, in fact they
are denying life to animals that *would exist* if they would just eat
meat. One of his favorite little gems is the notion that Animal Rights is
a "misnomer" because ARAs want there to be no more livestock. He's a real
genius.


so tell us dutch, how long have
you been interested in zen ?


What's zen?


Zen is the Buddhist training of personal wisdom. It's the most direct
way towards the Buddha wisdom. It provides you the peak performance in
a highly stressful real competition.

:-)

Lee Frank June 2nd 10 04:03 PM

zennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn [ wazn't Goo-the-Coward Harrison cont
 

"Dutch" wrote in message
...

"Lee Frank" wrote in message
m...

"Dutch" wrote in message
...
"possum" wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?

"Goo" (short for Goober) is a name dh originally started calling Fred,
but it fits dh better so now they call each other the same name.

(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum

dh believes that AR opponents are missing out on the killer argument
against vegetarians, that eating meat results in livestock animals
getting to experience life, and eating vegetables doesn't, in fact they
are denying life to animals that *would exist* if they would just eat
meat. One of his favorite little gems is the notion that Animal Rights
is
a "misnomer" because ARAs want there to be no more livestock. He's a
real
genius.


so tell us dutch, how long have
you been interested in zen ?


What's zen?


now you're learning


dh@. June 2nd 10 05:20 PM

Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run away - What should be the practical consequence of the "consideration" Goo wants us to give to animals' lives?
 
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 19:03:16 -0400, Le Moose
wrote:

Could it be that this goo guy is Harry Krause AKA HK?


I don't believe he has pretended to be Harry Krause, but he
might have in groups other than aaev. You may know Goo by some of
the "other people" he has pretended to be though. At the moment
he's pretending to be Fred Dobbs and perhaps some others I'm not
aware of, and over the years he has pretended to be all of the
following and mo

Jonathan Ball
Citizen
Benfez
Wilson Woods
Radical Moderate
Bingo
Edward
George
Bill
Fred
Mystery Poster
Merlin the dog
Bob the dog

elvira
Dieter
"Dieter
"

Abner Hale
Roger Whitaker
****tard
Apoo
Ted Bell

Jay Santos

Rudy Canoza
Trappist

Leif Erikson
S. Maizlich
SlipperySlope
Eden
Sylvia Stevens
chico chupacabra
ex-PFC Wintergreen
Kreed

James Hepler
stumblingblock

If you've had encounters with any of the above then it was with
Goo, who is now pretending to be Fred Dobbs.

hk June 2nd 10 05:23 PM

Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run away - What should bethe practical consequence of the "consideration" Goo wants us to give toanimals' lives?
 
On 6/2/10 12:20 PM, dh@. wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 19:03:16 -0400, Le
wrote:

Could it be that this goo guy is Harry Krause AKA HK?


I don't believe he has pretended to be Harry Krause,


Le Moose is one of the worst offenders in the game he and his boys play
in rec.boats...spoofing the ID's of others, changing their IDs weekly,
et cetera.






--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.

dh@. June 2nd 10 05:39 PM

Goo-the-Coward Harrison continues to run away - What should be the practical consequence of the "consideration" Goo wants us to give to animals' lives?
 
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 17:34:54 -0400, hk
wrote:

On 6/1/10 5:27 PM, dh@. wrote:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 10:40:11 -0400,
wrote:

On 6/1/10 10:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Goo wrote:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us


His name isn't Dobbs. He is often referred to as Goo, short
for Goobernicus. Over the years Goo has dishonestly posted as all
of the following "different people" and mo

Jonathan Ball
Citizen
Benfez
Wilson Woods
Radical Moderate
Bingo
Edward
George
Bill
Fred
Mystery Poster
Merlin the dog
Bob the dog

elvira
Dieter
"Dieter
"

Abner Hale
Roger Whitaker
****tard
Apoo
Ted Bell

Jay Santos

Rudy Canoza
Trappist

Leif Erikson
S. Maizlich
SlipperySlope
Eden
Sylvia Stevens
chico chupacabra
ex-PFC Wintergreen
Kreed

David N. Harrison
James Hepler
stumblingblock
Fred C. Dobbs

A Google search for Goobernicus Gonad can teach you much about
the goober you replied to.

that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Can you imagine someone else having that much power over *you*? I sure
can't.


He's lying to you. It's much more typical for Goob to lie
than tell the truth from my experiences with him. Goo is the most
dishonest person I've ever encountered.

Mr. Dobbs needs to either grow a pair, or see his therapist more often.


My impression is that if Goo were to stop lying he would have
little or nothing left to post. So far it looks as though he's
not being any more honest with you than he is with anyone else.
In fact there's a good change that Goober will never tell you the
truth about anything.



We have a handful of multiple ID morons in rec.boats, too...and our also
log on with the user names of other posters. jherring, flajim, moose,
loogy, dan krueger, et cetera...all one step down from trailer trash.

Morons, all of them.


The same with Goo. And he lies more often than he tells the
truth as well.

I'm helping them along by continuing their cross posting.


Good enough. People don't have to read what they don't want
to read, and don't have a legitimate complaint about content in
unmoderated groups. If people want nannying, they should go to a
nannied forum...

dh@. June 2nd 10 05:42 PM

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On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 20:46:45 -0700, "Dutch" wrote:

"possum" wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?


"Goo" (short for Goober)


Short for Goobernicus, but even that much honesty is shocking
to see you confess about your hero Goo.

is a name dh originally started calling Fred, but
it fits dh better so now they call each other the same name.


LOL!!! It shows desperation, the fact that having no
imagination Goo can't come up with anything on his own, and also
an extremely childlike nature on Goo's end. It also shows blatant
dishonesty which Goo is certainly known for.

(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum


dh believes that AR opponents are missing out on the killer argument against
vegetarians, that eating meat results in livestock animals getting to
experience life,


That's an aspect which must necessarily be factored in in
order to get a realistic interpretation of the big picture.
Misnomer advocates are OPPOSED TO people developing a realistic
interpretation of the big picture, and ONLY want them to focus on
things that encourage acceptance of the elimination objective.

and eating vegetables doesn't,


· Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use of
wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types of
buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else does.
What they try to avoid are products which provide life
(and death) for farm animals, but even then they would have
to avoid the following items containing animal by-products
in order to be successful:

tires, paper, upholstery, floor waxes, glass, water
filters, rubber, fertilizer, antifreeze, ceramics, insecticides,
insulation, linoleum, plastic, textiles, blood factors, collagen,
heparin, insulin, solvents, biodegradable detergents, herbicides,
gelatin capsules, adhesive tape, laminated wood products,
plywood, paneling, wallpaper and wallpaper paste, cellophane
wrap and tape, abrasives, steel ball bearings

The meat industry provides life for the animals that it
slaughters, and the animals live and die as a result of it
as animals do in other habitats. They also depend on it for
their lives as animals do in other habitats. If people consume
animal products from animals they think are raised in decent
ways, they will be promoting life for more such animals in the
future. People who want to contribute to decent lives for
livestock with their lifestyle must do it by being conscientious
consumers of animal products, because they can not do it by
being vegan.
From the life and death of a thousand pound grass raised
steer and whatever he happens to kill during his life, people
get over 500 pounds of human consumable meat...that's well
over 500 servings of meat. From a grass raised dairy cow people
get thousands of dairy servings. Due to the influence of farm
machinery, and *icides, and in the case of rice the flooding and
draining of fields, one serving of soy or rice based product is
likely to involve more animal deaths than hundreds of servings
derived from grass raised animals. Grass raised animal products
contribute to fewer wildlife deaths, better wildlife habitat, and
better lives for livestock than soy or rice products. ·

in fact they are denying life to animals that *would exist*


"we need to consider group 1, those animals who WILL
exist under present rules" - "Dutch"

"Because future animals who will inevitably be born are
as important as ones which exist now. " - Dutch

if they would just eat meat.


"Every consumer choice promotes animals to experience
life." - Dutch

"The method of husbandry determines whether or not the life
has positive or negative value to the animal." - "Dutch"

One of his
favorite little gems is the notion that Animal Rights is a "misnomer"
because ARAs want there to be no more livestock.


"The vast majority of the financial support for PeTA comes
from people who do NOT subscribe to the complete elimination
of animal use." - "Dutch"

He's a real genius.


I point out things which are significant aspects of the
situation that you people are opposed to seeing pointed out, ONLY
because they work against the elimination objective.

dh@. June 2nd 10 05:44 PM

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On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 14:47:53 -0700, Goo lied:

On 6/1/2010 2:27 PM, dh pointed out:

On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 09:52:06 -0700, Goo pretended to want to learn:

What should be the practical consequence of the "consideration"


People should consider that providing decent AW would be

ethically equivalent or superior to eliminating domestic animals
Goob, including the ones raised for food... In many cases it
already IS ethically equivalent or superior in fact, Goo.


That's not it


That is it Goober and here are some examples:

http://www.agrabilityproject.org/ima...ge002_0015.jpg
http://www.karlschatz.com/yearoftheg...es/skyland.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2305/...b1a8025730.jpg
http://www.quailhunt.net/images/Quail%20Farm2.jpg
http://images.usatoday.com/news/_pho.../04/10/egg.jpg
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography...s/duckpond.jpg
http://www.csulb.edu/~odinthor/Sheep.jpg
http://www.seldomseenfarm.co.uk/imag...se%20540-2.jpg
http://www.jamesranch.net/images/home_cow_red_cliff.jpg
http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/.../mds_p7f11.JPG
http://www.drgobbler.com/images/turkeys.JPG
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/...0Q2LI/610x.jpg
http://www.cohabnet.org/images/img_issue3.2_lrg.jpg
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/images/2008/01/389523.gif
http://www.colleenpatrick.com/blog/u...-13-782938.jpg
http://www.sprucedale.com/images/feedlot.jpg
http://www.saucierquail.com/farm4.jpg
http://www.fwi.co.uk/Assets/GetAsset...ItemID=3802569
http://www.banhdc.org/images/ch-hor-20060319.jpg
http://www.sheep101.info/Images/VAfeedlot.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ss-fedCows.jpg
http://bentleycellars.com/db2/00200/...SheepRanch.JPG
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/apr2...15_feedlot.jpg
http://www.agralarm.com/images/400_Texas_Broilers.jpg
http://www.circlekquailfarm.com/200%20x%20134.JPG
http://www.moonridgefarm.co.uk/USERI...re%20quail.jpg
http://www.therunningduckfarm.com/images/fieldtripw.jpg
http://www.agriproducts.com.au/verve...heep2_page.jpg
http://www.harveyquarterhorseranch.c.../allhorses.jpg
http://www.jphpk.gov.my/English/Asmawi%20M.%20Tahir.jpg
http://www.realclimate.org/images/Sheep.jpg
http://www.cps.gov.on.ca/french/ev10000/ev10703.jpg
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20040212/wd6.jpg
http://www.mtexpress.com/2000/06-21-00/u21cov1.jpg
http://www.farm-energy.ca/IReF/uploa.../Lighting2.jpg
http://www.piercefarmwatch.org/image...lsurvivors.jpg
http://www.mountvernonfarm.net/images/cows1.jpg
http://www.biblicalresearchreports.c..._bare_dirt.jpg
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image..._bank416ap.jpg
http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/uima...MorrisBeef.jpg
http://www.alcockhorseranch.com/images/horse.gif
http://www.boerdurhamgoatfarm.com/im...oats-2-061.jpg
http://www.mountain-beef.com/images/sales.jpg
http://www.vivavegie.org/vvi/vva/vvi.../chickens.jpeg
http://www.kingbirdfarm.com/images/K...op%20house.jpg
http://www.prairiespringsranch.com/images/13.jpg
http://www.countryliving.com/cm/coun...DEN0805-de.jpg
http://www.specialtytravel.com/opera...ogos/18059.jpg

Fred C. Dobbs June 2nd 10 05:55 PM

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On 6/2/2010 9:20 AM, Goo - ****wit David Harrison - attempted to bull****:

On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 19:03:16 -0400, Le
wrote:

Could it be that this goo guy is Harry Krause AKA HK?


I don't believe he has pretended to be Harry Krause, but


You are Goo: Goo ****wit David Harrison. This is not in dispute.

Fred C. Dobbs June 2nd 10 06:02 PM

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Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Coward - attempted to bull****:

On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 17:34:54 -0400,
wrote:

Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Coward - attempted to bull****:
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 10:40:11 -0400,
wrote:

On 6/1/10 10:26 AM, DT wrote:
Julian wrote:
On 01/06/2010 14:42, Fred C. Dobbs pointed out:
Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Goober - always criticizes people

I don't give a **** about him at the moment.
You are the ****wit in this situation for initiating
yet another new crosspost to disinterested groups
to vent even more of your spleen and distress
innocent bystanders.

Julian, Julian, Julian!

Mr. Dobbs has informed us

His name isn't Dobbs.


It is.


that he is not responsible for the
crossposting; someone else makes him do it.

Can you imagine someone else having that much power over *you*? I sure
can't.

He's lying to you.


No.


Mr. Dobbs needs to either grow a pair, or see his therapist more often.

My impression is that if


Your "impression" is that of a drunk cracker.



We have a handful of multiple ID morons in rec.boats, too...and our also
log on with the user names of other posters. jherring, flajim, moose,
loogy, dan krueger, et cetera...all one step down from trailer trash.

Morons, all of them.


The same with


You.


I'm helping them along by continuing their cross posting.


Good enough.


You started it, Goo.

Fred C. Dobbs June 2nd 10 06:04 PM

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Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Coward - attempted to bull****:
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 20:46:45 -0700, wrote:

wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?


"Goo" (short for Goober) is ****wit David Harrison, The Coward.


Short for


Goober ****wit David Harrison, The Coward.


is a name dh originally started calling Fred, but
it fits dh better so now they call each other the same name.


LOL!!! It shows


It shows that you can't fool anyone, Goo.


(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum


dh believes that AR opponents are missing out on the killer argument against
vegetarians, that eating meat results in livestock animals getting to
experience life,


That's an aspect which must necessarily be factored in


No, Goo. It's meaningless.


and eating vegetables doesn't,


[snip staled canned Goo-spew]

I point out things which


You do not point out anything.

Fred C. Dobbs June 2nd 10 06:13 PM

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Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Coward - attempted to bull****:

On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 14:47:53 -0700, Fred C. Dobbs pointed out:

On 6/1/2010 2:27 PM, Goo - ****wit David Harrison, The Coward - attempted to bull****:

On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 09:52:06 -0700, Fred C. Dobbs thoughtfully queried:

What should be the practical consequence of the "consideration"

People should consider that providing decent AW would be
ethically equivalent or superior to eliminating domestic animals
Goob, including the ones raised for food... In many cases it
already IS ethically equivalent or superior in fact, Goo.


That's not it. That's not the trap you're trying to lead them into, Goo.

Try again, Goo.


That is it


It isn't, Goo.

Dutch June 2nd 10 11:16 PM

zennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn [ wazn't Goo-the-Coward Harrison cont
 

"niunian" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:31:30 -0700, "Dutch" wrote:


"Lee Frank" wrote in message
news:a4adndeQj5USdZjRnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@earthlink. com...

"Dutch" wrote in message
...
"possum" wrote\

wait wait - is dhu goo, and goo really non-exists, or is goo
pretending to be dhu, and dhu really non- exists?

"Goo" (short for Goober) is a name dh originally started calling Fred,
but it fits dh better so now they call each other the same name.

(where non-existence = imaginary), or.... no, i can't think
of third option yet without clarification of 1 and 2....

or, clarification of what aras inherent objection to raising
livestock means for _existing_ animals (as in secondly goo
above)

possum

dh believes that AR opponents are missing out on the killer argument
against vegetarians, that eating meat results in livestock animals
getting to experience life, and eating vegetables doesn't, in fact they
are denying life to animals that *would exist* if they would just eat
meat. One of his favorite little gems is the notion that Animal Rights
is
a "misnomer" because ARAs want there to be no more livestock. He's a
real
genius.

so tell us dutch, how long have
you been interested in zen ?


What's zen?


Zen is the Buddhist training of personal wisdom. It's the most direct
way towards the Buddha wisdom. It provides you the peak performance in
a highly stressful real competition.

:-)


Good commercial :)


oxtail June 2nd 10 11:38 PM

zennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn [ wazn't Goo-the-Coward Harrison cont
 
Dutch wrote:

"niunian" wrote in message
On Wed, 2 Jun 2010 01:31:30 -0700, "Dutch" wrote:
"Lee Frank" wrote in message

so tell us dutch, how long have
you been interested in zen ?

What's zen?


Zen is the Buddhist training of personal wisdom. It's the most direct
way towards the Buddha wisdom. It provides you the peak performance in
a highly stressful real competition.
:-)


Good commercial :)



Zen is what you do
when you have no idea
what to do next.

--
oxtail

Dutch June 3rd 10 12:16 AM

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dh@. wrote
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 20:46:45 -0700, "Dutch" wrote:


dh believes that AR opponents are missing out on the killer argument
against
vegetarians, that eating meat results in livestock animals getting to
experience life,


That's an aspect which must necessarily be factored in in
order to get a realistic interpretation of the big picture.


Yet when I ask you *why* it's necessary you can't provide a direct answer.

It is a *fact* that livestock animals are alive, and the only "realistic"
consequence of that fact is that it implies an obligation to provide them
with good care in order to minimize their suffering. THAT is the AW
consideration, and you provide no reason, no coherent argument that there is
anything beyond that to consider. This extra "consideration" you advocate is
self serving, empty rhetoric.




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