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John H[_2_] May 27th 10 12:46 AM

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Words of wisdom sent by a friend:

Like most folks in this country, I have a job. I work, they pay me.
I pay my taxes & the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.

In order to get that paycheck, in my case, I am required to pass a random urine
test (with which I have no problem).

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who
don't have to pass a urine test.

So, here is my question: Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a
welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet.
I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their
BUTT----doing drugs while I work.

Can you imagine how much money each state would save if people had to pass a
urine test to get a public assistance check?

I guess we could call the program "URINE OR YOU'RE OUT"!

Sounds like a damn good idea to me.
--
John H

"No, Donnie is not that stupid. He's only *pretending* to be that stupid!"

nom=de=plume[_2_] May 27th 10 01:56 AM

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"John H" wrote in message
...
Words of wisdom sent by a friend:

Like most folks in this country, I have a job. I work, they pay me.
I pay my taxes & the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.

In order to get that paycheck, in my case, I am required to pass a random
urine
test (with which I have no problem).

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people
who
don't have to pass a urine test.

So, here is my question: Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a
welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their
feet.
I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on
their
BUTT----doing drugs while I work.

Can you imagine how much money each state would save if people had to
pass a
urine test to get a public assistance check?

I guess we could call the program "URINE OR YOU'RE OUT"!

Sounds like a damn good idea to me.
--
John H

"No, Donnie is not that stupid. He's only *pretending* to be that stupid!"


So, on the one hand you hate the gov't, and on the other, you want it to get
in people's lives. You're an idiot.


Canuck57[_9_] May 27th 10 02:17 AM

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On 26/05/2010 5:46 PM, John H wrote:
Words of wisdom sent by a friend:

Like most folks in this country, I have a job. I work, they pay me.
I pay my taxes& the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.

In order to get that paycheck, in my case, I am required to pass a random urine
test (with which I have no problem).

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who
don't have to pass a urine test.

So, here is my question: Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a
welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet.
I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their
BUTT----doing drugs while I work.

Can you imagine how much money each state would save if people had to pass a
urine test to get a public assistance check?

I guess we could call the program "URINE OR YOU'RE OUT"!

Sounds like a damn good idea to me.


Excellent idea.

--
I would rather be a paid up Conservative nut job than a Liberal with no
nuts, no job in debt and living off of other people like a leach.


YukonBound May 27th 10 02:28 AM

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"John H" wrote in message
...
Words of wisdom sent by a friend:

Like most folks in this country, I have a job. I work, they pay me.
I pay my taxes & the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.

In order to get that paycheck, in my case, I am required to pass a random
urine
test (with which I have no problem).

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people
who
don't have to pass a urine test.

So, here is my question: Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a
welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their
feet.
I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on
their
BUTT----doing drugs while I work.

Can you imagine how much money each state would save if people had to
pass a
urine test to get a public assistance check?

I guess we could call the program "URINE OR YOU'RE OUT"!

Sounds like a damn good idea to me.
--
John H


When did you ever 'work'?
Certainly didn't produce any results in your army life ....and less as a
teacher.


bpuharic May 27th 10 02:45 AM

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On Wed, 26 May 2010 19:17:43 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:



--
I would rather be a paid up Conservative nut job than a Liberal with no
nuts, no job in debt and living off of other people like a leach.


gee. the rich folks who created this debt by taking bush's tax cuts
ARE living off other people's money



Bill McKee May 27th 10 05:05 AM

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"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 May 2010 19:17:43 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:



--
I would rather be a paid up Conservative nut job than a Liberal with no
nuts, no job in debt and living off of other people like a leach.


gee. the rich folks who created this debt by taking bush's tax cuts
ARE living off other people's money



They are living off your money. As a fool and his money is soon parted.
Hurts to be you?



bpuharic May 27th 10 05:28 AM

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On Wed, 26 May 2010 21:05:10 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 26 May 2010 19:17:43 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:



--
I would rather be a paid up Conservative nut job than a Liberal with no
nuts, no job in debt and living off of other people like a leach.


gee. the rich folks who created this debt by taking bush's tax cuts
ARE living off other people's money



They are living off your money. As a fool and his money is soon parted.
Hurts to be you?

yeah. me and 100,000,000 members of the middle class.

you sure pulled one over on us!!

now you're surprised we want to regulate wall street.


bpuharic May 27th 10 05:29 AM

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On Thu, 27 May 2010 00:05:38 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 26 May 2010 21:45:31 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

gee. the rich folks who created this debt by taking bush's tax cuts
ARE living off other people's money


Everybody got a deal in the Bush tax cuts


which is irrelavant to the fact that

1. it's responsible for MOST of the debt
2. obama had NOTHING to do with it

, Almost half the people in
the US don't pay any income taxes at all. Middle class taxes are lower
than they have been in many years. Certainly the lowest they have been
in my life.


that's because the middle class hasnt had a pay increase in 10 years.
the wealthiest 1% have had their incomes triple...mostly due to
massive tax cuts in their favor

I have already posted the main numbers in my return and it was about
9%. I used to plan on 18-20%.


i paid about 15% last year. and i'm middle class


bpuharic May 27th 10 11:04 AM

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On Thu, 27 May 2010 01:57:22 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 27 May 2010 00:29:48 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Thu, 27 May 2010 00:05:38 -0400,
wrote:

On Wed, 26 May 2010 21:45:31 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

gee. the rich folks who created this debt by taking bush's tax cuts
ARE living off other people's money


Everybody got a deal in the Bush tax cuts


which is irrelavant to the fact that

1. it's responsible for MOST of the debt


Spending is a big part of it


but not MOST of it. that's bush's fault. so put the dead cats on
bush's doorstep


2. obama had NOTHING to do with it

Not until 1/20/2009
Now it is his problem.


yep, it is. and he's doing a good job of handling it. GDP is up. more
people in the workforce. manufacturing sector is recovering...



, Almost half the people in
the US don't pay any income taxes at all. Middle class taxes are lower
than they have been in many years. Certainly the lowest they have been
in my life.


that's because the middle class hasnt had a pay increase in 10 years.
the wealthiest 1% have had their incomes triple...mostly due to
massive tax cuts in their favor


Tax cuts can't possibly account for a 3x increase in income, you are
mixing your metaphors now.


productivity has increased about 28% in the last 10 years. most of
that went to the wealthy...along with the massive tax cuts that bush
implemented.

so it's his fault the deficits are so large



I have already posted the main numbers in my return and it was about
9%. I used to plan on 18-20%.


i paid about 15% last year. and i'm middle class


You must be rich, certainly not in the same "middle class" as
"100,000,000" other people.
To be paying 15$, top line to bottom line, you have to be making $150k
or so and that puts you in the top 15 percentile of workers


uh no. much less than that. sorry. the tax rate for someone in my
bracket (under 150K) is 28% marginal rate.

read the tax codes.


YukonBound May 27th 10 01:34 PM

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In article ,
says...

"John H" wrote in message
...
Words of wisdom sent by a friend:

Like most folks in this country, I have a job. I work, they pay me.
I pay my taxes & the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.

In order to get that paycheck, in my case, I am required to pass a random
urine
test (with which I have no problem).

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people
who
don't have to pass a urine test.

So, here is my question: Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a
welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their
feet.
I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on
their
BUTT----doing drugs while I work.

Can you imagine how much money each state would save if people had to
pass a
urine test to get a public assistance check?

I guess we could call the program "URINE OR YOU'RE OUT"!

Sounds like a damn good idea to me.
--
John H


When did you ever 'work'?
Certainly didn't produce any results in your army life ....and less as a
teacher.


Spoofer alert! I certainly wouldn't comment on someone else's work
ethic, what with my wine soaked son and all.

BAR[_2_] May 27th 10 11:25 PM

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In article ,
says...

On Thu, 27 May 2010 06:04:31 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

uh no. much less than that. sorry. the tax rate for someone in my
bracket (under 150K) is 28% marginal rate.

read the tax codes.



I do, there are a lot of things you deduct before you go to that tax
table.The 28% is also after you have paid 10% on the first $16,700,
15% from there to $67,900, 25% from there to $137,050
Unless you are making more that $150k you never saw that 28%

I know the tax in a gross of $78171 is $6949, (8.90%)using the
standard deduction and I bet you have a fat mortgage you can deduct.

Simple question What was your line 39 (Adjusted Gross) and what was
your line 60 (total tax)


He has to remember the numbers he punched in when he phoned in his tax
return.



Larry[_18_] May 28th 10 01:54 AM

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YukonBound wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...
Words of wisdom sent by a friend:

Like most folks in this country, I have a job. I work, they pay me.
I pay my taxes & the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.

In order to get that paycheck, in my case, I am required to pass a
random urine
test (with which I have no problem).

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to
people who
don't have to pass a urine test.

So, here is my question: Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to
get a
welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on
their feet.
I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting
on their
BUTT----doing drugs while I work.

Can you imagine how much money each state would save if people had
to pass a
urine test to get a public assistance check?

I guess we could call the program "URINE OR YOU'RE OUT"!

Sounds like a damn good idea to me.
--
John H


When did you ever 'work'?
Certainly didn't produce any results in your army life ....and less as
a teacher.

Anyone can get a job. Post your achievements as a *parent*, Don.

Larry[_18_] May 28th 10 01:56 AM

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wrote:
On Wed, 26 May 2010 21:45:31 -0400, wrote:


gee. the rich folks who created this debt by taking bush's tax cuts
ARE living off other people's money


Everybody got a deal in the Bush tax cuts, Almost half the people in
the US don't pay any income taxes at all. Middle class taxes are lower
than they have been in many years. Certainly the lowest they have been
in my life.
I have already posted the main numbers in my return and it was about
9%. I used to plan on 18-20%.


Almost half the people in the US aren't old enough to work.

YukonBound May 28th 10 03:20 AM

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"Larry" wrote in message
...
YukonBound wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...
Words of wisdom sent by a friend:

Like most folks in this country, I have a job. I work, they pay me.
I pay my taxes & the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.

In order to get that paycheck, in my case, I am required to pass a
random urine
test (with which I have no problem).

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people
who
don't have to pass a urine test.

So, here is my question: Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get
a
welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on
their feet.
I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on
their
BUTT----doing drugs while I work.

Can you imagine how much money each state would save if people had to
pass a
urine test to get a public assistance check?

I guess we could call the program "URINE OR YOU'RE OUT"!

Sounds like a damn good idea to me.
--
John H


When did you ever 'work'?
Certainly didn't produce any results in your army life ....and less as a
teacher.

Anyone can get a job. Post your achievements as a *parent*, Don.


Parent this...Post-it Boy!


hk May 28th 10 03:29 AM

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"YukonBound" wrote in message
...


"Larry" wrote in message
...
YukonBound wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...
Words of wisdom sent by a friend:

Like most folks in this country, I have a job. I work, they pay me.
I pay my taxes & the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.

In order to get that paycheck, in my case, I am required to pass a
random urine
test (with which I have no problem).

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people
who
don't have to pass a urine test.

So, here is my question: Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get
a
welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on
their feet.
I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on
their
BUTT----doing drugs while I work.

Can you imagine how much money each state would save if people had to
pass a
urine test to get a public assistance check?

I guess we could call the program "URINE OR YOU'RE OUT"!

Sounds like a damn good idea to me.
--
John H


When did you ever 'work'?
Certainly didn't produce any results in your army life ....and less as a
teacher.

Anyone can get a job. Post your achievements as a *parent*, Don.


Parent this...Post-it Boy!


Snerk.

You are so quick witted, you make me proud.

--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.



Canuck57[_9_] May 28th 10 04:44 AM

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On 27/05/2010 6:56 PM, Larry wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 26 May 2010 21:45:31 -0400, wrote:

gee. the rich folks who created this debt by taking bush's tax cuts
ARE living off other people's money

Everybody got a deal in the Bush tax cuts, Almost half the people in
the US don't pay any income taxes at all. Middle class taxes are lower
than they have been in many years. Certainly the lowest they have been
in my life.
I have already posted the main numbers in my return and it was about
9%. I used to plan on 18-20%.

Almost half the people in the US aren't old enough to work.


Actually it must be less than that, unless the average age is 18 or
something. But I know it to be well over 25 years of age.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/us.html

http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/census...abirthrate.htm

Immigration is the only reason US population is stable, as resident
birth rates are below sustaining levels.

Say about 25% are 18 or under. 13% retired or so. With less that 30%
working in non-government jobs and pay any signifigant amount of taxes,
well, one can see a huge problem that exists.

--
I would rather be a paid up Conservative nut job than a Liberal with no
nuts, no job in debt and living off of other people like a leach.


John H[_2_] May 28th 10 04:58 PM

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On Thu, 27 May 2010 23:20:28 -0300, "YukonBound" wrote:



"Larry" wrote in message
m...
YukonBound wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...
Words of wisdom sent by a friend:

Like most folks in this country, I have a job. I work, they pay me.
I pay my taxes & the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.

In order to get that paycheck, in my case, I am required to pass a
random urine
test (with which I have no problem).

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people
who
don't have to pass a urine test.

So, here is my question: Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get
a
welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on
their feet.
I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on
their
BUTT----doing drugs while I work.

Can you imagine how much money each state would save if people had to
pass a
urine test to get a public assistance check?

I guess we could call the program "URINE OR YOU'RE OUT"!

Sounds like a damn good idea to me.
--
John H


When did you ever 'work'?
Certainly didn't produce any results in your army life ....and less as a
teacher.

Anyone can get a job. Post your achievements as a *parent*, Don.


Parent this...Post-it Boy!


Does 'it' (whatever you're holding in your hand) need parenting, Don?
--
John H

"No, Donnie is not that stupid. He's only *pretending* to be that stupid!"

hk May 28th 10 05:00 PM

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On 5/28/10 11:58 AM, John H wrote:


Does 'it' (whatever you're holding in your hand) need parenting, Don?



Another on topic post from herring, eh?


--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.

hk May 28th 10 05:36 PM

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In article ,
says...

On 5/28/10 11:58 AM, John H wrote:


Does 'it' (whatever you're holding in your hand) need parenting, Don?



Another on topic post from herring, eh?


Spoofer alert! Everyone knows I don't post about boats!

--
The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.

hk May 28th 10 05:39 PM

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In article ,
says...

On Thu, 27 May 2010 23:20:28 -0300, "YukonBound" wrote:



"Larry" wrote in message
m...
YukonBound wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...
Words of wisdom sent by a friend:

Like most folks in this country, I have a job. I work, they pay me.
I pay my taxes & the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.

In order to get that paycheck, in my case, I am required to pass a
random urine
test (with which I have no problem).

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people
who
don't have to pass a urine test.

So, here is my question: Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get
a
welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on
their feet.
I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on
their
BUTT----doing drugs while I work.

Can you imagine how much money each state would save if people had to
pass a
urine test to get a public assistance check?

I guess we could call the program "URINE OR YOU'RE OUT"!

Sounds like a damn good idea to me.
--
John H


When did you ever 'work'?
Certainly didn't produce any results in your army life ....and less as a
teacher.
Anyone can get a job. Post your achievements as a *parent*, Don.


Parent this...Post-it Boy!


Does 'it' (whatever you're holding in your hand) need parenting, Don?


I'm the surrogate.

Larry[_15_] May 29th 10 02:34 AM

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YukonBound wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
...
YukonBound wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
...
Words of wisdom sent by a friend:

Like most folks in this country, I have a job. I work, they pay me.
I pay my taxes & the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit.

In order to get that paycheck, in my case, I am required to pass a
random urine
test (with which I have no problem).

What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to
people who
don't have to pass a urine test.

So, here is my question: Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to
get a
welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?

Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back
on their feet.
I do, on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone
sitting on their
BUTT----doing drugs while I work.

Can you imagine how much money each state would save if people had
to pass a
urine test to get a public assistance check?

I guess we could call the program "URINE OR YOU'RE OUT"!

Sounds like a damn good idea to me.
--
John H


When did you ever 'work'?
Certainly didn't produce any results in your army life ....and less
as a teacher.

Anyone can get a job. Post your achievements as a *parent*, Don.


Parent this...Post-it Boy!

So you plead the 5th? I'm not surprised.

Larry[_15_] May 29th 10 02:42 AM

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hk wrote:
On 5/28/10 11:58 AM, John H wrote:


Does 'it' (whatever you're holding in your hand) need parenting, Don?



Another on topic post from herring, eh?


Say what? He was responding to your boy, Don, not you liar.


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