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economist blames wall street for collapse
On May 10, 10:58*am, wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2010 10:50:29 -0400, hk wrote: On 5/10/10 10:44 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 06:09:02 -0400, wrote: On 5/9/10 11:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 22:34:29 -0400, wrote: Machine gun? That's what I need to hold off the LoogyZombies...what kind...and should I start the paperwork for a transfer? 10/22 Norrell conversion, virtually new in box. Maybe 300-400 rounds fired through it. Ram loader and several hi-cap magazines of various types. I would really like $10k but the last time I looked they were more like $9000-9500 on subgun. Have your dealer call me *;-) Uh...I was hoping for bigger and better... :) The advantage of this one is mortal man can afford the ammo. They are also pretty rare Understood. But I've read in Combat Arms that if you are going to try to take down rampaging loogyzombies, you need at least 9mm rounds in your full auto machine pistol. *:) M1A, get the *******s 500 yards out. *;-) In close quarters it is hard to beat a shotgun- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I sold my m1A and Garrand. The money was too hard to pass up. I enjoy my FN-FAL and .303 brits, though. And concerning rapid fire? Learn to bump fire them or get a Hellfire trigger. They're legal, but dont' work very well on bolt action's though. ?;^ ) |
economist blames wall street for collapse
On 5/10/10 2:07 PM, moose wrote:
On 5/10/2010 1:14 PM, hk wrote: On 5/10/10 11:58 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 10:50:29 -0400, wrote: On 5/10/10 10:44 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 06:09:02 -0400, wrote: On 5/9/10 11:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 22:34:29 -0400, wrote: Machine gun? That's what I need to hold off the LoogyZombies...what kind...and should I start the paperwork for a transfer? 10/22 Norrell conversion, virtually new in box. Maybe 300-400 rounds fired through it. Ram loader and several hi-cap magazines of various types. I would really like $10k but the last time I looked they were more like $9000-9500 on subgun. Have your dealer call me ;-) Uh...I was hoping for bigger and better... :) The advantage of this one is mortal man can afford the ammo. They are also pretty rare Understood. But I've read in Combat Arms that if you are going to try to take down rampaging loogyzombies, you need at least 9mm rounds in your full auto machine pistol. :) M1A, get the *******s 500 yards out. ;-) In close quarters it is hard to beat a shotgun Only with silver shot. I'm sure 500 yards is way past my capabilities with firearms. I don't have anywhere to even try shooting that distance, and I don't own a rifle that would be suitable. 25 yards, 50 yards, 100 yards at a local range, and just about 200 yards out on the river property are the ranges I can handle, and the 200 only with a friend's rifle, since the only rifle I have is a .22LR TCA. At 100 yards, though, I could put a round between the eyebrows of a charging loogyzombie...it's within my M.O.A. capabilities. Assuming Loogie is serious about going to visit you at your Rosedale estate, how close to your property can Loogie safely be before you come out guns a-blazing? It's only fair to warn him. Asked previously and answered. While the road our drive feeds into is private, no attempt has been made, to my knowledge, to keep anyone off of it. It's also perfectly legal, as far as I know, for someone to walk up to a house along a sidewalk and ring the doorbell. So long as loogyzombie behaves, if he shows up here, he's in no danger from me. If he attempts to break or force his way inside, he'll be treated the same as any other felonious home invader. Also, as an out-of-stater or even a Marylander, he's not allowed to "carry" in this state without a carry permit. To do so is itself a serious felony. The house is pretty well covered by day/night video cameras. It's important to note that loogyzombie has been advised and warned to stay away, and that I have no intention of greeting him or engaging him in face-to-face badinage. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
economist blames wall street for collapse
On May 10, 2:30*pm, hk wrote:
On 5/10/10 2:07 PM, moose wrote: On 5/10/2010 1:14 PM, hk wrote: On 5/10/10 11:58 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 10:50:29 -0400, wrote: On 5/10/10 10:44 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 06:09:02 -0400, wrote: On 5/9/10 11:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 22:34:29 -0400, wrote: Machine gun? That's what I need to hold off the LoogyZombies...what kind...and should I start the paperwork for a transfer? 10/22 Norrell conversion, virtually new in box. Maybe 300-400 rounds fired through it. Ram loader and several hi-cap magazines of various types. I would really like $10k but the last time I looked they were more like $9000-9500 on subgun. Have your dealer call me ;-) Uh...I was hoping for bigger and better... :) The advantage of this one is mortal man can afford the ammo. They are also pretty rare Understood. But I've read in Combat Arms that if you are going to try to take down rampaging loogyzombies, you need at least 9mm rounds in your full auto machine pistol. :) M1A, get the *******s 500 yards out. ;-) In close quarters it is hard to beat a shotgun Only with silver shot. I'm sure 500 yards is way past my capabilities with firearms. I don't have anywhere to even try shooting that distance, and I don't own a rifle that would be suitable. 25 yards, 50 yards, 100 yards at a local range, and just about 200 yards out on the river property are the ranges I can handle, and the 200 only with a friend's rifle, since the only rifle I have is a .22LR TCA. At 100 yards, though, I could put a round between the eyebrows of a charging loogyzombie...it's within my M.O.A. capabilities. Assuming Loogie is serious about going to visit you at your Rosedale estate, how close to your property can Loogie safely be before you come out guns a-blazing? It's only fair to warn him. Asked previously and answered. While the road our drive feeds into is private, no attempt has been made, to my knowledge, to keep anyone off of it. It's also perfectly legal, as far as I know, for someone to walk up to a house along a sidewalk and ring the doorbell. So long as loogyzombie behaves, if he shows up here, he's in no danger from me. If he attempts to break or force his way inside, he'll be treated the same as any other felonious home invader. Also, as an out-of-stater or even a Marylander, he's not allowed to "carry" in this state without a carry permit. To do so is itself a serious felony. The house is pretty well covered by day/night video cameras. It's important to note that loogyzombie has been advised and warned to stay away, and that I have no intention of greeting him or engaging him in face-to-face badinage. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Good lord, do you pee in your pants every time you think about this? What a scared little pussy!!! Every time you open your door, your are armed??? Talk about paranoia! |
economist blames wall street for collapse
On May 10, 1:17*pm, hk wrote:
On 5/10/10 11:44 AM, Loogypicker wrote: On May 10, 10:44 am, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 06:09:02 -0400, wrote: On 5/9/10 11:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 22:34:29 -0400, wrote: Machine gun? That's what I need to hold off the LoogyZombies...what kind...and should I start the paperwork for a transfer? 10/22 Norrell conversion, virtually new in box. Maybe 300-400 rounds fired through it. Ram loader and several hi-cap magazines of various types. I would really like $10k but the last time I looked they were more like $9000-9500 on subgun. Have your dealer call me *;-) Uh...I was hoping for bigger and better... :) The advantage of this one is mortal man can afford the ammo. They are also pretty rare- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry's so scared and worked up about my visit that he is just going nuts! See below! Actually, I hunted through the garage this past weekend for a dropcloth. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wow, that's a truly amazing story. Did you need it to soak up the pee that runs down your leg every time you think about me visiting? It's SO obvious to everyone here that you are just scared ****less. |
economist blames wall street for collapse
"Loogypicker" wrote in message ... Good lord, do you pee in your pants every time you think about this? What a scared little pussy!!! Every time you open your door,* your are armed*??? Talk about paranoia! Huh...... "your are armed". Better lay of the recreational stuff, Looney. |
economist blames wall street for collapse
"Loogypicker" wrote in message ... On May 10, 1:17 pm, hk wrote: On 5/10/10 11:44 AM, Loogypicker wrote: On May 10, 10:44 am, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 06:09:02 -0400, wrote: On 5/9/10 11:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 22:34:29 -0400, wrote: Machine gun? That's what I need to hold off the LoogyZombies...what kind...and should I start the paperwork for a transfer? 10/22 Norrell conversion, virtually new in box. Maybe 300-400 rounds fired through it. Ram loader and several hi-cap magazines of various types. I would really like $10k but the last time I looked they were more like $9000-9500 on subgun. Have your dealer call me ;-) Uh...I was hoping for bigger and better... :) The advantage of this one is mortal man can afford the ammo. They are also pretty rare- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry's so scared and worked up about my visit that he is just going nuts! See below! Actually, I hunted through the garage this past weekend for a dropcloth. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Wow, that's a truly amazing story. Did you need it to soak up the pee that runs down your leg every time you think about me visiting? It's SO obvious to everyone here that you are just scared ****less. LIAR! |
economist blames wall street for collapse
On 5/10/10 3:03 PM, Loogypicker wrote:
On May 10, 2:30 pm, wrote: On 5/10/10 2:07 PM, moose wrote: On 5/10/2010 1:14 PM, hk wrote: On 5/10/10 11:58 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 10:50:29 -0400, wrote: On 5/10/10 10:44 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 06:09:02 -0400, wrote: On 5/9/10 11:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 22:34:29 -0400, wrote: Machine gun? That's what I need to hold off the LoogyZombies...what kind...and should I start the paperwork for a transfer? 10/22 Norrell conversion, virtually new in box. Maybe 300-400 rounds fired through it. Ram loader and several hi-cap magazines of various types. I would really like $10k but the last time I looked they were more like $9000-9500 on subgun. Have your dealer call me ;-) Uh...I was hoping for bigger and better... :) The advantage of this one is mortal man can afford the ammo. They are also pretty rare Understood. But I've read in Combat Arms that if you are going to try to take down rampaging loogyzombies, you need at least 9mm rounds in your full auto machine pistol. :) M1A, get the *******s 500 yards out. ;-) In close quarters it is hard to beat a shotgun Only with silver shot. I'm sure 500 yards is way past my capabilities with firearms. I don't have anywhere to even try shooting that distance, and I don't own a rifle that would be suitable. 25 yards, 50 yards, 100 yards at a local range, and just about 200 yards out on the river property are the ranges I can handle, and the 200 only with a friend's rifle, since the only rifle I have is a .22LR TCA. At 100 yards, though, I could put a round between the eyebrows of a charging loogyzombie...it's within my M.O.A. capabilities. Assuming Loogie is serious about going to visit you at your Rosedale estate, how close to your property can Loogie safely be before you come out guns a-blazing? It's only fair to warn him. Asked previously and answered. While the road our drive feeds into is private, no attempt has been made, to my knowledge, to keep anyone off of it. It's also perfectly legal, as far as I know, for someone to walk up to a house along a sidewalk and ring the doorbell. So long as loogyzombie behaves, if he shows up here, he's in no danger from me. If he attempts to break or force his way inside, he'll be treated the same as any other felonious home invader. Also, as an out-of-stater or even a Marylander, he's not allowed to "carry" in this state without a carry permit. To do so is itself a serious felony. The house is pretty well covered by day/night video cameras. It's important to note that loogyzombie has been advised and warned to stay away, and that I have no intention of greeting him or engaging him in face-to-face badinage. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Good lord, do you pee in your pants every time you think about this? What a scared little pussy!!! Every time you open your door, your are armed??? Talk about paranoia! You've threatened and implied violence. You've denied it, but you're delusional. You've also been told to stay away, and yet you insist you are going to show up. I'm not Herb Clutter. You make any attempt to force your way in...well, there will be consequences for you. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
economist blames wall street for collapse
On 5/10/10 5:10 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2010 10:24:19 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On May 10, 10:58 am, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 10:50:29 -0400, wrote: On 5/10/10 10:44 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 06:09:02 -0400, wrote: On 5/9/10 11:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 22:34:29 -0400, wrote: Machine gun? That's what I need to hold off the LoogyZombies...what kind...and should I start the paperwork for a transfer? 10/22 Norrell conversion, virtually new in box. Maybe 300-400 rounds fired through it. Ram loader and several hi-cap magazines of various types. I would really like $10k but the last time I looked they were more like $9000-9500 on subgun. Have your dealer call me ;-) Uh...I was hoping for bigger and better... :) The advantage of this one is mortal man can afford the ammo. They are also pretty rare Understood. But I've read in Combat Arms that if you are going to try to take down rampaging loogyzombies, you need at least 9mm rounds in your full auto machine pistol. :) M1A, get the *******s 500 yards out. ;-) In close quarters it is hard to beat a shotgun- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I sold my m1A and Garrand. The money was too hard to pass up. I enjoy my FN-FAL and .303 brits, though. And concerning rapid fire? Learn to bump fire them or get a Hellfire trigger. They're legal, but dont' work very well on bolt action's though. ?;^ ) A 308 or 30-06 is pretty uncontrollable on full auto. The 22rf is really about like shooting one of those pneumatic guns at the carnival where you try to shoot out the red star. The only place I went wrong with this, as an investment, is, I should have sprung the extra $500 for the suppressed model. Then it would sound about like those arcade guns too. Those are going for over $10k now too. Here's the guy who directed the build of my C-75 Shadow Custom...Angus Hobdell...firing against a few guys with full auto weapons. There's a bit on bump fire, too. http://tinyurl.com/34srbpe My CZ Shadow Custom is all black, though...those gold grips are too uptown for my taste. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
economist blames wall street for collapse
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... On Mon, 10 May 2010 10:43:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: The point with metal is it is a hedge in the drop in the dollar. Treasuries are just dollars and if the dollar gets devalued your treasuries are devalued. That is why silver coins are 13x the face value right now. A hedge is fine, but putting _all_ your marbles in one place isn't a particularly good strategy. You miss the inevitable upside for one thing. We all should agree with that. I don't even keep all my money in the same bank. Doubtful. :) I don't keep my money in banks. I use the credit union. I had BofA, but I don't like their policies. |
economist blames wall street for collapse
On 5/10/10 5:53 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 May 2010 10:43:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: The point with metal is it is a hedge in the drop in the dollar. Treasuries are just dollars and if the dollar gets devalued your treasuries are devalued. That is why silver coins are 13x the face value right now. A hedge is fine, but putting _all_ your marbles in one place isn't a particularly good strategy. You miss the inevitable upside for one thing. We all should agree with that. I don't even keep all my money in the same bank. Doubtful. :) I don't keep my money in banks. I use the credit union. I had BofA, but I don't like their policies. If you travel a lot, it's not a bad idea to have an account at one of the big national banks so you can use non-foreign ATMs and save the $3.00 fee for getting your own cash out. Other than that, though, credit unions are the way to go. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
economist blames wall street for collapse
On 5/10/2010 5:28 PM, hk wrote:
On 5/10/10 5:10 PM, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 10:24:19 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On May 10, 10:58 am, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 10:50:29 -0400, wrote: On 5/10/10 10:44 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 06:09:02 -0400, wrote: On 5/9/10 11:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 22:34:29 -0400, wrote: Machine gun? That's what I need to hold off the LoogyZombies...what kind...and should I start the paperwork for a transfer? 10/22 Norrell conversion, virtually new in box. Maybe 300-400 rounds fired through it. Ram loader and several hi-cap magazines of various types. I would really like $10k but the last time I looked they were more like $9000-9500 on subgun. Have your dealer call me ;-) Uh...I was hoping for bigger and better... :) The advantage of this one is mortal man can afford the ammo. They are also pretty rare Understood. But I've read in Combat Arms that if you are going to try to take down rampaging loogyzombies, you need at least 9mm rounds in your full auto machine pistol. :) M1A, get the *******s 500 yards out. ;-) In close quarters it is hard to beat a shotgun- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I sold my m1A and Garrand. The money was too hard to pass up. I enjoy my FN-FAL and .303 brits, though. And concerning rapid fire? Learn to bump fire them or get a Hellfire trigger. They're legal, but dont' work very well on bolt action's though. ?;^ ) A 308 or 30-06 is pretty uncontrollable on full auto. The 22rf is really about like shooting one of those pneumatic guns at the carnival where you try to shoot out the red star. The only place I went wrong with this, as an investment, is, I should have sprung the extra $500 for the suppressed model. Then it would sound about like those arcade guns too. Those are going for over $10k now too. Here's the guy who directed the build of my C-75 Shadow Custom...Angus Hobdell...firing against a few guys with full auto weapons. There's a bit on bump fire, too. http://tinyurl.com/34srbpe My CZ Shadow Custom is all black, though...those gold grips are too uptown for my taste. What ever happened to that prize Sig 226 you were gushing over a few weeks ago? |
economist blames wall street for collapse
On 5/10/10 5:57 PM, moose wrote:
On 5/10/2010 5:28 PM, hk wrote: On 5/10/10 5:10 PM, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 10:24:19 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On May 10, 10:58 am, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 10:50:29 -0400, wrote: On 5/10/10 10:44 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 06:09:02 -0400, wrote: On 5/9/10 11:55 PM, wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 22:34:29 -0400, wrote: Machine gun? That's what I need to hold off the LoogyZombies...what kind...and should I start the paperwork for a transfer? 10/22 Norrell conversion, virtually new in box. Maybe 300-400 rounds fired through it. Ram loader and several hi-cap magazines of various types. I would really like $10k but the last time I looked they were more like $9000-9500 on subgun. Have your dealer call me ;-) Uh...I was hoping for bigger and better... :) The advantage of this one is mortal man can afford the ammo. They are also pretty rare Understood. But I've read in Combat Arms that if you are going to try to take down rampaging loogyzombies, you need at least 9mm rounds in your full auto machine pistol. :) M1A, get the *******s 500 yards out. ;-) In close quarters it is hard to beat a shotgun- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I sold my m1A and Garrand. The money was too hard to pass up. I enjoy my FN-FAL and .303 brits, though. And concerning rapid fire? Learn to bump fire them or get a Hellfire trigger. They're legal, but dont' work very well on bolt action's though. ?;^ ) A 308 or 30-06 is pretty uncontrollable on full auto. The 22rf is really about like shooting one of those pneumatic guns at the carnival where you try to shoot out the red star. The only place I went wrong with this, as an investment, is, I should have sprung the extra $500 for the suppressed model. Then it would sound about like those arcade guns too. Those are going for over $10k now too. Here's the guy who directed the build of my C-75 Shadow Custom...Angus Hobdell...firing against a few guys with full auto weapons. There's a bit on bump fire, too. http://tinyurl.com/34srbpe My CZ Shadow Custom is all black, though...those gold grips are too uptown for my taste. What ever happened to that prize Sig 226 you were gushing over a few weeks ago? I sold it more than a year ago to a guy in Virginia. It is a really serious competitor's semi-auto, and I'm not a serious firearms competitor. Interestingly, my CZ is just as accurate. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
economist blames wall street for collapse
On Mon, 10 May 2010 07:00:14 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 10 May 2010 00:37:13 -0400, wrote: you right wingers. you hate obama. why? well...'might...could...perhaps...' you get hysterical about events that havent happened while ignoring what bush actually DID to the economy. the only logical conclusion is that you hate obama because of his race Why do say people hate the POTUS just because they disagree with his physical policy? Then you throw in the nonsense that it's all because he is black. they dont disagree with him. they blame him for events that aren't his fault that's racism You need some help and not just a raise in pay. gee. you seem to deny racism exists newsflash, sport.... |
economist blames wall street for collapse
On Mon, 10 May 2010 07:09:48 -0400, hk
wrote: On 5/10/10 7:03 AM, D.Duck wrote: You need some help and not just a raise in pay. Oooops...physical = fiscal Doesn't matter...it's just another of your drive-bys. let's see...bush trashed the economy massively enriched the already rich spent a TRILLION in iraq killed 4400 US troops tortured US citizens threw US citizens in jail without counsel obama borrows money to save the economy... and everything his his fault soulds like racism to me |
economist blames wall street for collapse
On Mon, 10 May 2010 10:47:35 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2010 06:17:03 -0400, bpuharic wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 00:37:13 -0400, wrote: The only reference I have made to massive inflation is when we can no longer get our debt serviced. That might not be that far off. you right wingers. you hate obama. why? well...'might...could...perhaps...' you get hysterical about events that havent happened while ignoring what bush actually DID to the economy. the only logical conclusion is that you hate obama because of his race That is all you. I have never said any of it. I do notice that when you run out of intelligent things to say you revert to the same two or three rants but I assume that is you way of coping with being wrong. what you do is come here and whine about how i bitch slap your right wing friends with the facts. the fact is your pals hate obama. the fact is they exculpate the smirking rich frat boy bush. why? because of race so go ahead. keep bitching |
economist blames wall street for collapse
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economist blames wall street for collapse
On Mon, 10 May 2010 09:42:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On May 10, 11:39*am, Tim wrote: On May 10, 10:09*am, wrote: Another thing I've found out, is that it seems I'm to busy to rant about how bad things seem to be. there's a word for folks like you: sheep |
economist blames wall street for collapse
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says... On Sun, 09 May 2010 16:27:42 -0400, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 15:45:39 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 14:45:59 -0400, bpuharic wrote: really? ever sell any stock? hmm...it seems you dont know WHY companies are even ON wall street. they are there for capitalization....looking for money to invest in their companies. if wall street drops by a trillion, their equty...their ability to raise money...drops by a trillion Perhaps you are the one who doesn't understand how stocks work. When a company offers shares they get all the money they are going to get right then. After that the stocks are just baseball cards that trade without the company seeing another dime. They can sell more stock but, again, it is a one time shot. stock is fungible. companies can, and do buy and sell their own stock. and their ability to raise MORE equity is affected when the stock price drops Certainly a good stock price garners a better market for selling other instruments but it does not directly affect the corporate revenue. However, it is used like cash to acquire assets and it is used to assign value to the company when its assets are sold. Therein lies the value of stock and the reason that companies are concerned about the stock price. Buy a company in an all stock deal and the acquired company's revenue adds to the acquiring company's bottom line. |
economist blames wall street for collapse
On Mon, 10 May 2010 19:37:38 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2010 18:22:42 -0400, bpuharic wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 11:09:17 -0400, wrote: where? where do i go? where do the other engineers go? you guys keep pretending there are all these jobs out there where? Maybe it is time you looked at another career. When the computer hardware business went away I changed my line of work to something that was growing. zzzzzzzzzzzzz the right has this myth: america is the land of full employment. wall street and the rich have made it that way. only the lazy, worthless, shiftless middle class is responsible for the problems we face. the rich have NOTHING to do with it. wall street is blameless right wing bull**** is filled with myth I thought you were talking about how many jobs Obama was creating. Go get one. ROFLMAO!! even obama can't undo the damage the smirking rich frat boy bush did to the economy but you right wingers figure he's white. so you naver mention that. |
economist blames wall street for collapse
On Mon, 10 May 2010 21:00:10 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2010 20:16:33 -0400, bpuharic wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 19:37:38 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 18:22:42 -0400, bpuharic wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 11:09:17 -0400, wrote: where? where do i go? where do the other engineers go? you guys keep pretending there are all these jobs out there where? Maybe it is time you looked at another career. When the computer hardware business went away I changed my line of work to something that was growing. zzzzzzzzzzzzz That explains it, you snoozed through the time when they were making your job a dead end and now you are lashing out at everyone else. guess you right wingers havent noticed the fact the middle class hasnt had a raise in 10 years. you blow it off as unimportant. your view is that only the rich should have money. screw the middle class and i notice you call the rich 'everyone else'. in your world they're the only important folks. working people can go hang but you right wingers figure he's white. so you naver mention that. You seem to be the only one here fixated on Obama's race. Do you really hate whitey that much? you righties seem to be the only ones who think that, in the 225 year history of the US, only obama has been a bad, socialist, muslim, indonesian president IOW he's black |
economist blames wall street for collapse
On May 10, 5:24*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2010 09:42:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On May 10, 11:39*am, Tim wrote: On May 10, 10:09*am, wrote: Another thing I've found out, is that it seems I'm to busy to rant about how bad things seem to be. there's a word for folks like you: sheep No, There's a word for people like me. "Busy" |
economist blames wall street for collapse
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... On 5/10/10 5:53 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 May 2010 10:43:58 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: The point with metal is it is a hedge in the drop in the dollar. Treasuries are just dollars and if the dollar gets devalued your treasuries are devalued. That is why silver coins are 13x the face value right now. A hedge is fine, but putting _all_ your marbles in one place isn't a particularly good strategy. You miss the inevitable upside for one thing. We all should agree with that. I don't even keep all my money in the same bank. Doubtful. :) I don't keep my money in banks. I use the credit union. I had BofA, but I don't like their policies. If you travel a lot, it's not a bad idea to have an account at one of the big national banks so you can use non-foreign ATMs and save the $3.00 fee for getting your own cash out. Other than that, though, credit unions are the way to go. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. I haven't had a problem with reciprocal agreements and my CU refunds fees if there are any. |
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... On Mon, 10 May 2010 17:56:20 -0400, hk wrote: Doubtful. :) I don't keep my money in banks. I use the credit union. I had BofA, but I don't like their policies. If you travel a lot, it's not a bad idea to have an account at one of the big national banks so you can use non-foreign ATMs and save the $3.00 fee for getting your own cash out. Other than that, though, credit unions are the way to go. I never saw that much advantage with the credit union but my wife likes hers. If you keep some money in the bank they treat you pretty well. I don't pay fees for anything. You definitely get more personalized service, which I like. They have good rates if you need them. |
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... On Mon, 10 May 2010 14:53:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: We all should agree with that. I don't even keep all my money in the same bank. Doubtful. :) I don't keep my money in banks. I use the credit union. I had BofA, but I don't like their policies. Only one? What do you do when they **** you off? ... or just close for some reason? I like at least 3 banks and at least 2 insurance companies. Then when you get mad at them it is easy to close out and go. Sounds complicated and time-consuming, but if you don't mind.... |
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... On Mon, 10 May 2010 21:08:36 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Mon, 10 May 2010 14:53:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: We all should agree with that. I don't even keep all my money in the same bank. Doubtful. :) I don't keep my money in banks. I use the credit union. I had BofA, but I don't like their policies. Only one? What do you do when they **** you off? ... or just close for some reason? I like at least 3 banks and at least 2 insurance companies. Then when you get mad at them it is easy to close out and go. Sounds complicated and time-consuming, but if you don't mind.... What's complicated? Opening a few statements every month? I just think of it as keeping my money in a couple different pockets. One is debit card transactions for my day to day, one is checks and EFTs for bills and one is linked to my brokerage account. I think that is easier. The only one that is really dynamic is the debit card. The other two are very predictable. I usually know what the ending balance should be before I open the envelope. Umm... banks (mostly) are FDIC insured. No one under the $200K (now) limit has ever lost a dime. If you've got more than that in a bank, you're doing something wrong. :) I avoid debit cards except for gas. Keep in mind that they don't have the protections that CCs do. |
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economist blames wall street for collapse
On May 11, 6:18*am, bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 10 May 2010 22:35:11 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 21:15:48 -0400, bpuharic wrote: O That explains it, you snoozed through the time when they were making your job a dead end and now you are lashing out at everyone else. guess you right wingers *havent noticed the fact the middle class hasnt had a raise in 10 *years. you blow it off as unimportant. your view is that only the rich should have money. screw the middle class and i notice you call the rich 'everyone else'. in your world they're the only important folks. working people can go hang Well you have nothing to worry about now. Obama will fix it all and you will start getting COLAs right along with the Social Security folks. *Oops Obama stopped the COLAs he stopped the COLAS because the COLA was not going up... guess you missed that part. in fact mileage reimbursement for corporate expense accounts dropped from 58 cents to 50 cents this year...same reason BTW I hope you are ready for the sticker shock you will have when your open season starts on your health insurance. ROFLMAO!! health insurance costs under the free market were increasing at double digit rates! guess you right wingers missed that part! more of your right wing mythology- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Our company group policy just went up 10% in one year.! |
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On May 10, 9:58*pm, Tim wrote:
On May 10, 5:24*pm, bpuharic wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 09:42:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On May 10, 11:39*am, Tim wrote: On May 10, 10:09*am, wrote: Another thing I've found out, is that it seems I'm to busy to rant about how bad things seem to be. there's a word for folks like you: sheep No, There's a word for people like me. "Busy" No, let me re-phrase that. "Grateful" |
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... On Mon, 10 May 2010 23:16:39 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Mon, 10 May 2010 21:08:36 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message m... On Mon, 10 May 2010 14:53:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: We all should agree with that. I don't even keep all my money in the same bank. Doubtful. :) I don't keep my money in banks. I use the credit union. I had BofA, but I don't like their policies. Only one? What do you do when they **** you off? ... or just close for some reason? I like at least 3 banks and at least 2 insurance companies. Then when you get mad at them it is easy to close out and go. Sounds complicated and time-consuming, but if you don't mind.... What's complicated? Opening a few statements every month? I just think of it as keeping my money in a couple different pockets. One is debit card transactions for my day to day, one is checks and EFTs for bills and one is linked to my brokerage account. I think that is easier. The only one that is really dynamic is the debit card. The other two are very predictable. I usually know what the ending balance should be before I open the envelope. Umm... banks (mostly) are FDIC insured. No one under the $200K (now) limit has ever lost a dime. If you've got more than that in a bank, you're doing something wrong. :) I avoid debit cards except for gas. Keep in mind that they don't have the protections that CCs do. If it is a Visa/MC marked card they give you virtually the same protection. I use my debit for just about everything but I do keep some cash around for the day the card stops working.. I agree the FDIC will protect your deposits but it might not be immediate. Saying something never happened is also no assurance it never will. The Dow never lost 1000 points in 10 minutes before either. I really think we will see a lot of things that never happened before in the next decade. Actually, it's always immediate. You money never "goes away" to be later retrieved. Your money is completely safe, as long as there's a Federal gov't. The stock market isn't really a good counter example. The moon hasn't crashed into the earth, but I suppose it's possible. |
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... On Tue, 11 May 2010 06:18:32 -0400, bpuharic wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 22:35:11 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010 21:15:48 -0400, bpuharic wrote: O That explains it, you snoozed through the time when they were making your job a dead end and now you are lashing out at everyone else. guess you right wingers havent noticed the fact the middle class hasnt had a raise in 10 years. you blow it off as unimportant. your view is that only the rich should have money. screw the middle class and i notice you call the rich 'everyone else'. in your world they're the only important folks. working people can go hang Well you have nothing to worry about now. Obama will fix it all and you will start getting COLAs right along with the Social Security folks. Oops Obama stopped the COLAs he stopped the COLAS because the COLA was not going up... guess you missed that part. in fact mileage reimbursement for corporate expense accounts dropped from 58 cents to 50 cents this year...same reason BTW I hope you are ready for the sticker shock you will have when your open season starts on your health insurance. ROFLMAO!! health insurance costs under the free market were increasing at double digit rates! guess you right wingers missed that part! You ain't seen nothing yet. They just added a lot of extra liability to the insurance plans and did nothing to restrict the price they will charge for it. This is just fear-based rationale. There's no "lot of extra liability" to insurance plans. |
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On 5/9/2010 7:48 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 09 May 2010 19:12:47 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 17:23:14 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 16:26:14 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 15:38:18 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 09 May 2010 14:43:23 -0400, wrote: uh, no. the market had dropped a few hundred points over the previous week as the scope of the greek problem became news. a drop of 1 trillion in 1 day had zip to do with greece. What the hell are you talking about? you havent been following the market for the last week or 2 have you? it's been dropping as the greek situation became news...it's BEEN news for several weeks The down spike you are talking about lasted about 15 minutes. There was a correction but that was not a trillion dollars. and saying absolutely NOTHING about bush...nothing. not a peep. now, why is that? I say plenty about bush and the stupid war. That was his fault. The CDO problem was caused by legislation that happened before he took office. You seem to ignore that. uh...no. in fact i quite squarely blame it on the right winger phil gramm and his enron VP wife who engineered a bill to exclude the SEC from regulating derivatives Bush, Gramm, Clinton, I guess they are all the same guy in your mind I think a lot of the drop was to tell Congress, that Wall Street controls the money. Do not pass any bills breaking up to big to fail companies. There are so many controls on the trading software, Wall Street has a bigger budget than NASA, that to say some fumble finger pressed a B instead of an M just does not fly. Especially when Wall Streeters were in front of Congress at the time. |
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... On Tue, 11 May 2010 15:16:04 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: You ain't seen nothing yet. They just added a lot of extra liability to the insurance plans and did nothing to restrict the price they will charge for it. This is just fear-based rationale. There's no "lot of extra liability" to insurance plans. Huh? They just told insurance companies they have to pick up anyone with a preexisting condition, they can't limit coverage amounts and they have to carry "kids" until they are 26. That is a lot of extra liability. The insurance companies have already said they will pick up the kids, but there will be an extra premium for doing it. We don't know how much the preexisting condition and unlimited coverage increase will be. It is a fairly simple process for the underwriters to project the extra cost and apply that to the current premium. That's also a lot of new customers and a lot of premiums. I guarantee you that the ins. companies are not hurting. There's an "extra" premium for everything. The bill that passed is a first step. More needs to be done. |
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... On Tue, 11 May 2010 22:57:03 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Huh? They just told insurance companies they have to pick up anyone with a preexisting condition, they can't limit coverage amounts and they have to carry "kids" until they are 26. That is a lot of extra liability. The insurance companies have already said they will pick up the kids, but there will be an extra premium for doing it. We don't know how much the preexisting condition and unlimited coverage increase will be. It is a fairly simple process for the underwriters to project the extra cost and apply that to the current premium. That's also a lot of new customers and a lot of premiums. I guarantee you that the ins. companies are not hurting. There's an "extra" premium for everything. The bill that passed is a first step. More needs to be done. There may not be as many new customers as the government predicts. When you tell the 20 somethings that they can buy a $6,000 a year insurance policy or pay a fine of a few hundred bucks, they will pay the fine. Even OMB agrees with that. Nobody ever said anyone in the medical establishment will be hurting. This bill guarantees everyone from the doctors, hospitals and drug companies to the insurance companies will be making a lot of money. it will be the patients who will be hurting since there were no cost controls in this bill. Very similar arguments were made by Republicans when Social Security and Medicare came into being. It's just not true. |
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... On Wed, 12 May 2010 06:13:43 -0400, bpuharic wrote: On Tue, 11 May 2010 21:34:35 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 11 May 2010 21:01:58 -0400, bpuharic wrote: health insurance costs under the free market were increasing at double digit rates! guess you right wingers missed that part! You ain't seen nothing yet. They just added a lot of extra liability to the insurance plans and did nothing to restrict the price they will charge for it. by liability right wingers mean 'human beings'. Liability is the ability to pay to treat those human beings. You seem, to believe health care is free. death is free. is that what you're advocating? we spend a **** load of money subsidizing wall street, large agriculture,etc your preference is to pay for this by letting the weak, the ill, the unemployed die? This bill has dumped those people on Medicaid so it will show up in your state taxes or the money will have to be taken away from other state programs (roads, cops, firemen and schools). Again you think there is a free lunch out there somewhere. I suggest you take a long hard look at Greece. They thought there was a free lunch too. Our deficit problem is really only a few points better than theirs (9% of GDP vs 13%) Our economy is nothing like Greece. |
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On Sun, 09 May 2010 15:12:48 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 09/05/2010 1:38 PM, wrote: It was far more than a simple computer glitch. Greece and the possible crash of the Euro was a lot more troubling than one trader typing billion when he meant million. Most of that was recovered by the end of trading. You have that right. It sure as hell was no glitch. Only in liberal-debt monger liberal minds was it a glitch. They can dream on. A trillion dollar move occured. i love it. greece was in the news for weeks. but then, miraculously, in 15 minutes, the planets aligned and BOOM!! a trillion dollars evaporated! any more proof needed that the right wing is tin foil hat material? The market ran out of buyers and had too many sellers. That simple. No one trusts our own governmetns debt-corruption currency and banking mismanagement. And that includes the USA. really? wonder why, then, the dollar has increased in value against the euro oh. i guess rush forgot to tell them what to think Between Greece and pathetic US numbers for unemployment and debt spending, the market paniced. Big deal. Buying opporunities. ;) pathetic unemployment? you mean because 260,000 jobs were created last month? oh..i forgot. you're right wing. when people get jobs you weep. |
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... On Wed, 12 May 2010 11:53:57 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Tue, 11 May 2010 22:57:03 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Huh? They just told insurance companies they have to pick up anyone with a preexisting condition, they can't limit coverage amounts and they have to carry "kids" until they are 26. That is a lot of extra liability. The insurance companies have already said they will pick up the kids, but there will be an extra premium for doing it. We don't know how much the preexisting condition and unlimited coverage increase will be. It is a fairly simple process for the underwriters to project the extra cost and apply that to the current premium. That's also a lot of new customers and a lot of premiums. I guarantee you that the ins. companies are not hurting. There's an "extra" premium for everything. The bill that passed is a first step. More needs to be done. There may not be as many new customers as the government predicts. When you tell the 20 somethings that they can buy a $6,000 a year insurance policy or pay a fine of a few hundred bucks, they will pay the fine. Even OMB agrees with that. Nobody ever said anyone in the medical establishment will be hurting. This bill guarantees everyone from the doctors, hospitals and drug companies to the insurance companies will be making a lot of money. it will be the patients who will be hurting since there were no cost controls in this bill. Very similar arguments were made by Republicans when Social Security and Medicare came into being. It's just not true. Medicare ended up costing several times the original CBO projection at the 10 year mark. So? Are you saying that it shouldn't have been done or undone now? If so, there are lots of people would take exception. |
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