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On 25/04/2010 9:13 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:55:47 -0600, wrote: On 25/04/2010 7:22 AM, hk wrote: On 4/25/10 9:15 AM, BAR wrote: Sorry, Clyde, but I'm not "jealous" of anyone here, or anywhere else, for that matter. And this country has a long way to go before "equal opportunity" becomes a reality. As what was already said, it is clear you are about equal outcomes in place of equal opportunity. Hell, the USA is the most equal opportunity place on the planet. more right wing bull****. i'm a scientist and go with the evidence. the GINI coefficient is a measure of how equally income is distributed among economic groups guess which, of 26 countries, has the worst GINI coefficient you right whiners. you have your bull**** mythology. and that's all you need. Tell me, besides the slums where you live, have you ever lived outside of the county/state/USA??? Or did the 5 days in Mexico Holiday Inn make you an international expert? Not likely, because your mind is too narrow and single dimensional. So focused on envy and self pity. I am sure I can come up with all sorts of bull**** stats to say anything I want. I looked at the GINI coefficient thing once an all I saw was bull****. So what about the disparity...that has nothing to do with happyness and wealth. But I am game to do GINI. The three largest economies in the world, US, India and China are both mid-pack in their ratings. They employ more people, more production and higher standard of living than the rest of world save for a few pockets of smaller populated areas. Canada with 0.5% of the worlds population and the 2nd largest country in the world, you don't see it as a top of the line for immigration. We let in what the US rejects. Canada, not as many "rich" as they move offshore to escape the punative taxes. Taking their wealth with them. Most people in Canada go to work and don't give a ****, low motivation. Hell, I get paid the same as my counter part, why should I put out extra? It develops lethargy. I would rather look at a crime and weather maps to look for where to live. Hell, I could have stayed in low GINI coefcient Norway if I wanted, better coefficient than Canada even. But it was a suffocating, frozen wasteland and people didn't have the money to enjoy life. One bar in a city of 110,000 people. Fortunately my assignment there was only 1 year. But GINI be your model as you are motivated by envy and greed of other peoples wealth. Persoanlly, when someone with more money that I moves in next door I am happier than a pig in **** because it keeps the neighborhood up. -- Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it. |
Gingrich - Teabaggers the 'Militants'
On 4/25/10 12:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
I am sure I can come up with all sorts of bull**** stats to say anything I want. You already do that...try to impress us with something other than your moronic right-wing ideology, eh? -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
Gingrich - Teabaggers the 'Militants'
On 25/04/2010 8:55 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/25/10 10:46 AM, Canuck57 wrote: On 25/04/2010 6:57 AM, hk wrote: On 4/25/10 8:50 AM, BAR wrote: In articleLNydne2k_LtkUk7WnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d@earthlink .com, says... wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:11:21 -0400, wrote: On 4/24/10 5:59 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Did your mother have any children who succeeded in life? 4 out of 5 are well off. One chose liberalism and debt, suffice it to say she will be working until 65 or beyond. The rest of us talk of early retirement but for being bored. Really ****es her off when we get together and start that discussion. But she did it to herself, the only one to go bankrupt. I actually feel sorry for her at times, the price is a heavy one emotionally to be the only liberal debt loving loser. Interesting that when I asked about success in life, you equated that with money. Let's try again. Anyone in your family successful in life? someone once said 'the love of money is the root of all evil'...some famous guy... Seems as if your are very unhappy, and it is all about the lack of money in your case. Jealousy is a vicious disease that will turn a person into a mean and nasty old man. Is that your explanation for Canuck and McGee? They're jealous, mean and nasty? (Sounds like a bad vaudeville act... Canuck and McGee, playing those two favorites of yesteryear, "Dumb and Dumber.") Actually, hk you, bpuharic and defumer seem quite leftist and my guess is you are all broke. Developes envy and entitlement...your messages wreak of the it. Need that "free" health care paid for by other peoples money... LOL. Don't give me your virtue, it is bankrupt. I'm what intelligent people might call a moderate lefty. I certainly don't mind that description. I'm sure my net worth is substantially more than yours. As for my health care, I've been using my own money to pay for it for many years. And, unlike you, I don't spend my life whining about the future value of money I don't have. So what is your pick? Inherited? Lotto? Why cannot bpuharic and others get off their lazy asses and get a piece of the pie? What really limits them other than their letharic hopeless attitude? Fired, so what. Get another job. Shave, don't smell, take some college course and become a pro at something else than liberal whining. And why should you (or I and others) pay for life on the lamb? -- Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it. |
Gingrich - Teabaggers the 'Militants'
On 25/04/2010 9:00 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:46:17 -0600, wrote: On 25/04/2010 6:57 AM, hk wrote: Is that your explanation for Canuck and McGee? They're jealous, mean and nasty? (Sounds like a bad vaudeville act... Canuck and McGee, playing those two favorites of yesteryear, "Dumb and Dumber.") Actually, hk you, bpuharic and defumer seem quite leftist and my guess is you are all broke. Developes envy and entitlement...your messages wreak of the it. guess away. stereotyping to make yourself feel better is a classic element of right wing thinking. Need that "free" health care paid for by other peoples money... LOL. we already pay for other people. ever been in the medical field? no. i thought not. We do and we shouldn't. I say this as if they can't manage their own lives, perhaps they should be humble enough to let someone take them in like lost sheep. Maybe learn something. That is if someone wants them. Maslow had it right, we are all needy and greedy. And it is a decay of the system when taxes can be used to prop up the lazy and corporations for the name of "socialism". Want socialism, move to Cuba. Trick is, want a piece of the pie, work for it. Big difference between hand outs and hand ups. Beggars want handouts. -- Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it. |
Gingrich - Teabaggers the 'Militants'
On 25/04/2010 8:44 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/25/10 10:40 AM, Canuck57 wrote: On 24/04/2010 4:11 PM, hk wrote: On 4/24/10 5:59 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 23/04/2010 10:49 AM, hk wrote: On 4/23/10 12:42 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 23/04/2010 5:01 AM, hk wrote: How many Obamanites does it take to screw in a light bulb... none... they'll sit on their fat lazy asses and wait for someone else to do it for them... Are you trying to grab Tosk's belt signifying he is the Dumbest Poster in Rec.Boats? Sure seems that way, with one moronic statement, proclamation, or mis-stated "unfactoid" after another. Did your mother have any children who succeeded in life? 4 out of 5 are well off. One chose liberalism and debt, suffice it to say she will be working until 65 or beyond. The rest of us talk of early retirement but for being bored. Really ****es her off when we get together and start that discussion. But she did it to herself, the only one to go bankrupt. I actually feel sorry for her at times, the price is a heavy one emotionally to be the only liberal debt loving loser. Interesting that when I asked about success in life, you equated that with money. Let's try again. Anyone in your family successful in life? Try living without it, give up the car, no home, no vacation, no extras for the kids, no visiting grandkids, arguements over money... While I agree that money is not the be all end all, it sure helps to have enough you don't get the aggrivation of worring about it. While it is true money will not make you happy, not having enough will make you miserable. Yeah, well that is quite a bit different from measuring success in life by how much money you've made, eh? Yep, and life is too short to waste on envy of others and money arguments. -- Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it. |
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On 4/25/10 1:02 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 25/04/2010 8:55 AM, hk wrote: I'm what intelligent people might call a moderate lefty. I certainly don't mind that description. I'm sure my net worth is substantially more than yours. As for my health care, I've been using my own money to pay for it for many years. And, unlike you, I don't spend my life whining about the future value of money I don't have. So what is your pick? Inherited? Lotto? Why cannot bpuharic and others get off their lazy asses and get a piece of the pie? What really limits them other than their letharic hopeless attitude? Fired, so what. Get another job. Shave, don't smell, take some college course and become a pro at something else than liberal whining. And why should you (or I and others) pay for life on the lamb? My pick? My pick for what? Lotto? What is "life on the lamb"? -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On 4/25/10 1:08 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 25/04/2010 9:00 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:46:17 -0600, wrote: On 25/04/2010 6:57 AM, hk wrote: Is that your explanation for Canuck and McGee? They're jealous, mean and nasty? (Sounds like a bad vaudeville act... Canuck and McGee, playing those two favorites of yesteryear, "Dumb and Dumber.") Actually, hk you, bpuharic and defumer seem quite leftist and my guess is you are all broke. Developes envy and entitlement...your messages wreak of the it. guess away. stereotyping to make yourself feel better is a classic element of right wing thinking. Need that "free" health care paid for by other peoples money... LOL. we already pay for other people. ever been in the medical field? no. i thought not. We do and we shouldn't. I say this as if they can't manage their own lives, perhaps they should be humble enough to let someone take them in like lost sheep. Maybe learn something. That is if someone wants them. Maslow had it right, we are all needy and greedy. And it is a decay of the system when taxes can be used to prop up the lazy and corporations for the name of "socialism". Want socialism, move to Cuba. Trick is, want a piece of the pie, work for it. Big difference between hand outs and hand ups. Beggars want handouts. I keep getting this feeling you are living off a disability pension. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
Gingrich - Teabaggers the 'Militants'
On 4/25/10 1:09 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 25/04/2010 8:44 AM, hk wrote: On 4/25/10 10:40 AM, Canuck57 wrote: On 24/04/2010 4:11 PM, hk wrote: On 4/24/10 5:59 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 23/04/2010 10:49 AM, hk wrote: On 4/23/10 12:42 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 23/04/2010 5:01 AM, hk wrote: How many Obamanites does it take to screw in a light bulb... none... they'll sit on their fat lazy asses and wait for someone else to do it for them... Are you trying to grab Tosk's belt signifying he is the Dumbest Poster in Rec.Boats? Sure seems that way, with one moronic statement, proclamation, or mis-stated "unfactoid" after another. Did your mother have any children who succeeded in life? 4 out of 5 are well off. One chose liberalism and debt, suffice it to say she will be working until 65 or beyond. The rest of us talk of early retirement but for being bored. Really ****es her off when we get together and start that discussion. But she did it to herself, the only one to go bankrupt. I actually feel sorry for her at times, the price is a heavy one emotionally to be the only liberal debt loving loser. Interesting that when I asked about success in life, you equated that with money. Let's try again. Anyone in your family successful in life? Try living without it, give up the car, no home, no vacation, no extras for the kids, no visiting grandkids, arguements over money... While I agree that money is not the be all end all, it sure helps to have enough you don't get the aggrivation of worring about it. While it is true money will not make you happy, not having enough will make you miserable. Yeah, well that is quite a bit different from measuring success in life by how much money you've made, eh? Yep, and life is too short to waste on envy of others and money arguments. You spend most of your time here expressing your envy of others and in "money arguments." My guess is that you don't have two nickels to rub together, that you are scared ****less about what happens when your job ends, and that you are expressing nothing more here than bravado. You have no boat, right? Do you have a car? You claim to be wealthy...so what's your house look like? How many dress suits do you own that you've bought in the last couple of years? How much do you pay for your suits? -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 10:17:03 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: Not one of these leftist liberal-dimwits ever hit head on the the following reasons why Obama is a BAD president. 1) Obama supports using the taxpayer system for support of private corporations. This is tax slavery, corporations should never be allowed to tax people nation wide for their short comings. This is corruption. actually it's part of US history. it's always been done. and it's done today in many ways. when i worked for texas instruments, some of our equipment used a touch screen GUI. the only US manufacturer of GUI's was supported by the DoD even though it lost money, because it was a 'strategic technology.' so right off the bat you're filled with bull****. 2) Obama is debt spending like no other in history. except for george bush, ronald reagan, FDR, etc. again he's spouting bull****. No controls on government spending. None. Just record deficits and record debt. Just like a debt worshiper out of control with other peoples money. our debt, after obama's spending, will be lower than the debt/GDP ratio of the US after ww2. more bull****. 3) People wanted change all right, they wanted government pork fest cleanup. Some decency in government. What do they get? Bigger, fatter and up your arse governemnt. Worse than before. cliche. cliche. too bad this right wing idiot isn't paid by the cliche. he'd be richer than bill gates. 4) Obama hasn't kept any of his major promises such as Iraq. really? got any proof of that? right now US troop levels in iraq are at 50K. the lowest they've been in years. more right wing bull**** 5) Obama behaves as if above the law, ROFLMAO!!! did he REALLY write this??? HAHAHAHAH!!! george bush: -arrested american citizens on american soil without charge -wiretapped without court approval -kept americans in prision with no access to counsel -tortured americans in violation of law see GM bond holders sho didn't get their day in debtors court. Totally bypassed established bankruptcy laws. gee. bankruptcy laws. bush TORTURED US CITIZENS ON AMERICAN SOIL obama 'bypassed bankruptcy laws' but obama, you see, is a darkie. and bush was rich. and white. None of the above has to do with race. Just that hk and pbuharic (and others) know they can't defend Obama on logic and "free" health care is more important than American futures. notice that the racist right hates obama because of 'money'...while they LOVE bush because he TORTURED US CITIZENS the difference is that bush is white. Pretty shallow types. i guess he thinks teh US constitution allows torture of US citizens on US soil typical right winger |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 10:50:51 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 25/04/2010 9:13 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:55:47 -0600, wrote: more right wing bull****. i'm a scientist and go with the evidence. the GINI coefficient is a measure of how equally income is distributed among economic groups guess which, of 26 countries, has the worst GINI coefficient you right whiners. you have your bull**** mythology. and that's all you need. Tell me, besides the slums where you live, have you ever lived outside of the county/state/USA??? Or did the 5 days in Mexico Holiday Inn make you an international expert? notice how he doesn't address the issue? notice how, instead of dealing with objective facts, he ****es his diaper when shown he's wrong? yes, i grew up in the slums. and i worked my way through college WITH THE HELP OF GOVT GRANTS for tutition. i'm proud to admit my dad was a steelworker. i'm proud of labor unions. i'm proud of being middle class you? you make ALL of these a punching bag for your elitist right wing theology that favors ONLY the rich. I am sure I can come up with all sorts of bull**** stats to say anything I want. I looked at the GINI coefficient thing once an all I saw was bull****. So what about the disparity...that has nothing to do with happyness and wealth. uh huh. it's bull****. why? well...because it doesnt fit his right wing mythology. But I am game to do GINI. The three largest economies in the world, US, India and China are both mid-pack in their ratings. well, no. that's BEFORE taxes. look at it AFTER taxes christ you cant even read a freakin' CHART!! Canada with 0.5% of the worlds population and the 2nd largest country in the world, you don't see it as a top of the line for immigration. We let in what the US rejects. hey genius. guess how many americans have overseas roots? Canada, not as many "rich" as they move offshore to escape the punative taxes. Taking their wealth with them. Most people in Canada go to work and don't give a ****, low motivation. oh. i didn't realize you hated the CANADIAN middle class, too!! I would rather look at a crime and weather maps to look for where to live. Hell, I could have stayed in low GINI coefcient Norway if I wanted, better coefficient than Canada even. But it was a suffocating, frozen wasteland and people didn't have the money to enjoy life. oh, yes. and in the US, after 30 years of right wing bull****, and 10 years with NO pay increases, americans had to BORROW just to feed their families. and you? you HATE the middle class But GINI be your model as you are motivated by envy and greed of other peoples wealth. ROFLMAO!! i can see it now. if he lived in mexico he'd be justifying the rich, there, too. he can't conceive of a situation where the rich are EVER evil. or steal from teh middle class in his right wing mind, facts are useless. mythology is all that matters |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:02:46 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: So what is your pick? Inherited? Lotto? Why cannot bpuharic and others get off their lazy asses and get a piece of the pie? What really limits them other than their letharic hopeless attitude? me and 100,000,000 other americans. social mobility in the US is the lowest of any industrialized country. to the right wing, this is proof of god's existence. the poor DESERVE to be poor. the rich got that way because they worked hard and would NEVER steal from teh middle class more right wing bull**** |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:08:18 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 25/04/2010 9:00 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 08:46:17 -0600, wrote: Need that "free" health care paid for by other peoples money... LOL. we already pay for other people. ever been in the medical field? no. i thought not. We do and we shouldn't. I say this as if they can't manage their own lives, perhaps they should be humble enough to let someone take them in like lost sheep. Maybe learn something. That is if someone wants them. what's funny is how much evidence he ignores. -when it's pointed out the US is the least redistributionist country in the western world (by the GINI coefficient) he says he's doing fine so 100,000,000 americans must be lazy -when it's pointed out there's less social mobility in the US, he says the right wing doesn't admit this because the right wing would be wrong if that were true. -when it's pointed out socialized medicine is better than america's free market system, he says that's not true because no one gets rich from socilized medicine. he lives in a right wing bubble where 100,000,000 hard working americans deserve slavery so a few people can be rich. Maslow had it right, we are all needy and greedy. And it is a decay of the system when taxes can be used to prop up the lazy and corporations for the name of "socialism". Want socialism, move to Cuba. where's sociialism? where? if there's socialism in the US, show it to me. right now the US govt owns precisely 0.8% of the economy. you are full of right wing bull**** lies. not a single thing you say is true and it's easily refuted with objective facts. Trick is, want a piece of the pie, work for it. Big difference between hand outs and hand ups. Beggars want handouts. bull**** right wing cliches. you don't think. you spout. |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:09:22 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: Yep, and life is too short to waste on envy of others and money arguments. if canuck had his way, we'd still be part of the british empire |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:14:44 -0400, hk
wrote: You spend most of your time here expressing your envy of others and in "money arguments." AND he bitches about people who think for themselves, and want a better life for their children. he says the rich are the only ones who matter. You have no boat, right? Do you have a car? You claim to be wealthy...so what's your house look like? How many dress suits do you own that you've bought in the last couple of years? How much do you pay for your suits? he's too busy looking in the mirror and doing whatever it is he does to make himself feel like he's the most important guy around |
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hk wrote:
On 4/25/10 1:09 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Yep, and life is too short to waste on envy of others and money arguments. You spend most of your time here expressing your envy of others and in "money arguments." My guess is that you don't have two nickels to rub together, that you are scared ****less about what happens when your job ends, and that you are expressing nothing more here than bravado. You have no boat, right? Do you have a car? You claim to be wealthy...so what's your house look like? How many dress suits do you own that you've bought in the last couple of years? How much do you pay for your suits? Typical Krause bull****. Get an honest guy like Canuck talking, then slam him when he contradicts himself. This BS never ends. Because Krause sees in black and white, and most others see the entire spectrum of light. So Canuck uses "money" as an obvious symbol for explaining all of all the other cultural problems, and Krause slams him for talking about money all the time. Canuck, you should stay away from this guy. He's bad news, and will distort whatever you say. Same with bpharuc, and defumes. Name callers. Jim - Just friendly advice. |
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says... On 4/25/10 1:35 PM, BAR wrote: In articleEeadnTZTnLWn70nWnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@earthlink .com, says... Please explain how I am a racist, since I do not have racist thoughts or make derogatory comments about those whose "race" differs from mine and, in fact, am happy to associate with people of good will, no matter how good or bad a tan they have. As long as their political beliefs are acceptable to you? Try reading for content, stupid. I don't give a damn about skin color. Hell, in my younger, single days, I gladly dated women of a variety of skin colors, and had and still have close friends and associates of the same variety. Hell, my wife is about as pale a "whitey" as you can be, with her Irish and Nordic ancestry, mixed in with about 1/8th Cherokee. Me, I just have enough of a European based ancestry to be a typical mutt. As I have said before your words about race do not agree 99% of the time. I have no idea what that means. Race is a central issue in your life and is prominent in your writings here. You always speak in terms of race. Dr. Martin Luther King would chastise your for you inability to get beyond the skin color of your fellow man and not see the content of his character. |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:03:30 -0400, BAR wrote:
Race is a central issue in your life and is prominent in your writings here. You always speak in terms of race. Dr. Martin Luther King would chastise your for you inability to get beyond the skin color of your fellow man and not see the content of his character. ROFLMAO!! why did dr king give speeches? because he was fighting racism. guess you kinda forgot that, didn't you? funny, how the oppressors are always willing to tell us the oppression doesn't exist anymore. just like the bishops who say we should all listen to the catholic church because they've handled the abuse issue. |
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On 4/25/10 2:07 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:03:30 -0400, wrote: Race is a central issue in your life and is prominent in your writings here. You always speak in terms of race. Dr. Martin Luther King would chastise your for you inability to get beyond the skin color of your fellow man and not see the content of his character. ROFLMAO!! why did dr king give speeches? because he was fighting racism. guess you kinda forgot that, didn't you? funny, how the oppressors are always willing to tell us the oppression doesn't exist anymore. just like the bishops who say we should all listen to the catholic church because they've handled the abuse issue. Racism is an important component of the GOP these days, along with its subgroups, the teabaggers and the militias. It is always worthy of mention, to rub the rights' face in its racism. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:55:43 -0500, Jim wrote:
hk wrote: On 4/25/10 1:09 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Yep, and life is too short to waste on envy of others and money arguments. You spend most of your time here expressing your envy of others and in "money arguments." My guess is that you don't have two nickels to rub together, that you are scared ****less about what happens when your job ends, and that you are expressing nothing more here than bravado. You have no boat, right? Do you have a car? You claim to be wealthy...so what's your house look like? How many dress suits do you own that you've bought in the last couple of years? How much do you pay for your suits? Typical Krause bull****. Get an honest guy like Canuck talking, then slam him when he contradicts himself. This BS never ends. Because Krause sees in black and white, and most others see the entire spectrum of light. So Canuck uses "money" as an obvious symbol for explaining all of all the other cultural problems, and Krause slams him for talking about money all the time. Canuck, you should stay away from this guy. He's bad news, and will distort whatever you say. Same with bpharuc, and defumes. Name callers. Jim - Just friendly advice. There are a few here who can't seem to learn, no matter how many names they're called. If they'd ration their responses to those idiots, their serenity would improve immeasurably. -- John H For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 15:02:52 -0400, John H
wrote: On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:55:43 -0500, Jim wrote: Canuck, you should stay away from this guy. He's bad news, and will distort whatever you say. Same with bpharuc, and defumes. Name callers. aw, shucks...i bet you say that to all the independent thinkers!! you're so SWEET!! |
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On 25/04/2010 11:34 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 10:17:03 -0600, wrote: Not one of these leftist liberal-dimwits ever hit head on the the following reasons why Obama is a BAD president. 1) Obama supports using the taxpayer system for support of private corporations. This is tax slavery, corporations should never be allowed to tax people nation wide for their short comings. This is corruption. actually it's part of US history. it's always been done. and it's done today in many ways. when i worked for texas instruments, some of our equipment used a touch screen GUI. the only US manufacturer of GUI's was supported by the DoD even though it lost money, because it was a 'strategic technology.' so right off the bat you're filled with bull****. Into the bottle so early? Stay on subject. I wasn't talking about TI or touch screens. I was talking about Fanny, Freddie, GM, City, BAC etc. You know, corporate welfare. I don't think those that invented taxation had bailing out GM in mind. 2) Obama is debt spending like no other in history. except for george bush, ronald reagan, FDR, etc. again he's spouting bull****. Nope. Look it up. Never before has any president debt-spent so fast as Obama. No controls on government spending. None. Just record deficits and record debt. Just like a debt worshiper out of control with other peoples money. our debt, after obama's spending, will be lower than the debt/GDP ratio of the US after ww2. more bull****. No bull****. US governemnt is broke. The only way they can borrow money these days is loan it to themselves. Federal Reserve creates it, Obama spends it. 3) People wanted change all right, they wanted government pork fest cleanup. Some decency in government. What do they get? Bigger, fatter and up your arse governemnt. Worse than before. cliche. cliche. too bad this right wing idiot isn't paid by the cliche. he'd be richer than bill gates. I do believe most people would like to see a good government house cleaning. Trouble is finding decent representation to vote for that isn't bought and paid for. 4) Obama hasn't kept any of his major promises such as Iraq. really? got any proof of that? right now US troop levels in iraq are at 50K. the lowest they've been in years. more right wing bull**** He said he would be out in 6 months. 16 months later we are still there. How much proof does your pea brain need? 5) Obama behaves as if above the law, ROFLMAO!!! did he REALLY write this??? HAHAHAHAH!!! george bush: -arrested american citizens on american soil without charge -wiretapped without court approval -kept americans in prision with no access to counsel -tortured americans in violation of law What president hasn't? see GM bond holders sho didn't get their day in debtors court. Totally bypassed established bankruptcy laws. gee. bankruptcy laws. bush TORTURED US CITIZENS ON AMERICAN SOIL obama 'bypassed bankruptcy laws' but obama, you see, is a darkie. and bush was rich. and white. Ah, the racist excuse. Do you mean because Obama is black the law does not apply to him? None of the above has to do with race. Just that hk and pbuharic (and others) know they can't defend Obama on logic and "free" health care is more important than American futures. notice that the racist right hates obama because of 'money'...while they LOVE bush because he TORTURED US CITIZENS the difference is that bush is white. Your pathetic perception. Pretty shallow types. i guess he thinks teh US constitution allows torture of US citizens on US soil typical right winger -- Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it. |
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On 4/25/10 4:36 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
Adolph Hitler didn't per say hate jews, he married one. Might have even fathered with jews... He used them as a tool to focus hate for his own gain. Not to go as far as he did, he would certainly need to be a sociopath but that isn't the point. The point is that Obama is a little like this. He appeals to the people that are angry by a sympathetic word, then focuses your hate on some other target like the "rich". It is something you want to believe so it is an easy sell. You know, when you publish absolute bull**** like the paragraph of yours immediately above, you simply confirm the belief among sentient adults that you are a moron and a racist...and now you are comparing Obama to Hitler. You really truly are a piece of ****. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On Apr 25, 3:50*pm, hk wrote:
On 4/25/10 4:36 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Adolph Hitler didn't per say hate jews, he married one. Might have even fathered with jews... He used them as a tool to focus hate for his own gain. Not to go as far as he did, he would certainly need to be a sociopath but that isn't the point. The point is that Obama is a little like this. He appeals to the people that are angry by a sympathetic word, then focuses your hate on some other target like the "rich". It is something you want to believe so it is an easy sell. You know, when you publish absolute bull**** like the paragraph of yours immediately above, you simply confirm the belief among sentient adults that you are a moron and a racist...and now you are comparing Obama to Hitler. You really truly are a piece of ****. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. You, Krause, are good for conservative causes. |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:20:46 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 25/04/2010 10:27 AM, hk wrote: On 4/25/10 12:17 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Simple, you and pbuharic keep bringing up race when no one else does. you mean like when you complain about the damage obama's done to the economy for the last 9 years... although he's been president for 1 1/2 years... or how much money he spends...when the biggest spender in history was a rich white boy, george bush... he complains about obama breaking 'bankruptcy' laws but ignores the fact the rich white boy tortured and imprisoned american citizens without trial, in contravention of the US constitution and we're supposed to believe this has nothing to do with race? gee. why am i not convinced? Prejudice takes many forms, and in my experience race is more often used as a crutch. And many who cry racism are in fact the racists. The worst racists I have seen are in fact minorities. isn't it always like the oppressors to tell the oppressed that everything is now OK? the rich tell the middle class everything's OK and we dont have to regulate wall street now. the bishops tell teh faithful everything's OK and we dont have to regulate priest's behavior and the nazis tell the jews that they can forget about the holocaust now... and the racists tell the darkies that the darkies are the real racists... Such as the case of liberal democrates with Obama, always de-evolving a conversation down to race when it was never about race in the first place. Obama is a corrupt over spending president. I said the same thing about Bush and TARP. now you didn't. because you ignore EVERYTHING bush did. every violation of the constitution. and you do so because he's rich and he's white now you're here to tell us how some of your best friends are black |
Gingrich - Teabaggers the 'Militants'
On 4/25/10 4:56 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:20:46 -0600, wrote: On 25/04/2010 10:27 AM, hk wrote: On 4/25/10 12:17 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Simple, you and pbuharic keep bringing up race when no one else does. you mean like when you complain about the damage obama's done to the economy for the last 9 years... although he's been president for 1 1/2 years... or how much money he spends...when the biggest spender in history was a rich white boy, george bush... he complains about obama breaking 'bankruptcy' laws but ignores the fact the rich white boy tortured and imprisoned american citizens without trial, in contravention of the US constitution and we're supposed to believe this has nothing to do with race? gee. why am i not convinced? Prejudice takes many forms, and in my experience race is more often used as a crutch. And many who cry racism are in fact the racists. The worst racists I have seen are in fact minorities. isn't it always like the oppressors to tell the oppressed that everything is now OK? the rich tell the middle class everything's OK and we dont have to regulate wall street now. the bishops tell teh faithful everything's OK and we dont have to regulate priest's behavior and the nazis tell the jews that they can forget about the holocaust now... and the racists tell the darkies that the darkies are the real racists... Such as the case of liberal democrates with Obama, always de-evolving a conversation down to race when it was never about race in the first place. Obama is a corrupt over spending president. I said the same thing about Bush and TARP. now you didn't. because you ignore EVERYTHING bush did. every violation of the constitution. and you do so because he's rich and he's white now you're here to tell us how some of your best friends are black Canuck's latest screed is that Hitler had a Jewish wife and that Hitler and Obama have much in common. Is there anything else about Canuck you need to know? -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On 25/04/2010 11:42 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:02:46 -0600, wrote: So what is your pick? Inherited? Lotto? Why cannot bpuharic and others get off their lazy asses and get a piece of the pie? What really limits them other than their letharic hopeless attitude? me and 100,000,000 other americans. social mobility in the US is the lowest of any industrialized country. Must be a social fabric thing then. Lazy? to the right wing, this is proof of god's existence. the poor DESERVE to be poor. the rich got that way because they worked hard and would NEVER steal from teh middle class more right wing bull**** No bull****. Straight shooting. Me, I was born in about the bottom 10-15% working class poor and divorced family of 5. Wanted a hockey stick? Got off my ass and learned captialism at 8 delivering papers. With so many mouths to feed, you didn't want to make life rough on mom in asking for extra because she was worried about the utility bills after wad went on food. When it came to going to college, I didn't even ask being the first one out. Just got a job, worked two years and saved, then went to college and didn't even take out a loan. Later did university while I worked. Always working. Somehow I promised myself along the way never to be that skint again and saved during good times. Now I would be in the top 15% you buggers are just looking like lazy envious slugs. You can jump any class you wish with the right attitude and dicipline. You are your own limitation. You have both dysfunctional execuses and mobility, you choose but don't be a maggot and ask others to pay for your dysfunction. -- Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it. |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 15:09:15 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 25/04/2010 11:42 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:02:46 -0600, wrote: So what is your pick? Inherited? Lotto? Why cannot bpuharic and others get off their lazy asses and get a piece of the pie? What really limits them other than their letharic hopeless attitude? me and 100,000,000 other americans. social mobility in the US is the lowest of any industrialized country. Must be a social fabric thing then. Lazy? need i say more? he just said that america is perfect and proof of this is that the rich oppress the middle class... to the right wing, this is proof of god's existence. the poor DESERVE to be poor. the rich got that way because they worked hard and would NEVER steal from teh middle class more right wing bull**** No bull****. Straight shooting. Me, I was born in about the bottom 10-15% working class poor and divorced family of 5. blah blah blah 'me, me me'... he already says he dosn't care about america, it's honor. its decency, its hard working middle class he just called 100,000,000 hard working americans 'lazy'. wonder what he thinks of our black president? hmmm...i wonder... Now I would be in the top 15% you buggers are just looking like lazy envious slugs. You can jump any class you wish with the right attitude and dicipline. You are your own limitation. You have both dysfunctional execuses and mobility, you choose but don't be a maggot and ask others to pay for your dysfunction. if he had his way we'd all be english. it's wrong to crtiicize the upper classes, you know. |
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"bpuharic" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:15:37 -0700, "Bill McKee" wrote: "bpuharic" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:11:21 -0400, hk wrote: On 4/24/10 5:59 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Interesting that when I asked about success in life, you equated that with money. Let's try again. Anyone in your family successful in life? someone once said 'the love of money is the root of all evil'...some famous guy... Seems as if your are very unhappy, and it is all about the lack of money in your case. typical right wing pervert. i worked hard all my life for what i got. so did 100,000,000 other americans. his view? the rich deserved to steal our money. all we'd do is spend it on our families. they'd use it to party. and they're rich. they deserve it. he thinks hard work is a perversion. typical right whiner Blah, blah, blah. You are unhappy because you got no money. Every time you put fingers to keyboard, you reinforce that statement. |
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On 25/04/2010 11:14 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/25/10 1:09 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 25/04/2010 8:44 AM, hk wrote: On 4/25/10 10:40 AM, Canuck57 wrote: On 24/04/2010 4:11 PM, hk wrote: On 4/24/10 5:59 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 23/04/2010 10:49 AM, hk wrote: On 4/23/10 12:42 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 23/04/2010 5:01 AM, hk wrote: How many Obamanites does it take to screw in a light bulb... none... they'll sit on their fat lazy asses and wait for someone else to do it for them... Are you trying to grab Tosk's belt signifying he is the Dumbest Poster in Rec.Boats? Sure seems that way, with one moronic statement, proclamation, or mis-stated "unfactoid" after another. Did your mother have any children who succeeded in life? 4 out of 5 are well off. One chose liberalism and debt, suffice it to say she will be working until 65 or beyond. The rest of us talk of early retirement but for being bored. Really ****es her off when we get together and start that discussion. But she did it to herself, the only one to go bankrupt. I actually feel sorry for her at times, the price is a heavy one emotionally to be the only liberal debt loving loser. Interesting that when I asked about success in life, you equated that with money. Let's try again. Anyone in your family successful in life? Try living without it, give up the car, no home, no vacation, no extras for the kids, no visiting grandkids, arguements over money... While I agree that money is not the be all end all, it sure helps to have enough you don't get the aggrivation of worring about it. While it is true money will not make you happy, not having enough will make you miserable. Yeah, well that is quite a bit different from measuring success in life by how much money you've made, eh? Yep, and life is too short to waste on envy of others and money arguments. You spend most of your time here expressing your envy of others and in "money arguments." My guess is that you don't have two nickels to rub together, that you are scared ****less about what happens when your job ends, and that you are expressing nothing more here than bravado. You have no boat, right? Do you have a car? You claim to be wealthy...so what's your house look like? How many dress suits do you own that you've bought in the last couple of years? How much do you pay for your suits? Think what you want. BTW, I don't even own a suit, business casual mostly. Often just wear blue jeans and a buttoned shirt. Only politicians, lawyers, salesmen and butt kissers wear suits. House is in the right end of town, 2848 sq foot for 2. No boat at the moment. Have F150, hitch up a rental when I do go fishing. And you? Swamp land in Lousiana with a home made raft? -- Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it. |
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On 25/04/2010 11:55 AM, Jim wrote:
hk wrote: On 4/25/10 1:09 PM, Canuck57 wrote: Yep, and life is too short to waste on envy of others and money arguments. You spend most of your time here expressing your envy of others and in "money arguments." My guess is that you don't have two nickels to rub together, that you are scared ****less about what happens when your job ends, and that you are expressing nothing more here than bravado. You have no boat, right? Do you have a car? You claim to be wealthy...so what's your house look like? How many dress suits do you own that you've bought in the last couple of years? How much do you pay for your suits? Typical Krause bull****. Get an honest guy like Canuck talking, then slam him when he contradicts himself. This BS never ends. Because Krause sees in black and white, and most others see the entire spectrum of light. So Canuck uses "money" as an obvious symbol for explaining all of all the other cultural problems, and Krause slams him for talking about money all the time. Canuck, you should stay away from this guy. He's bad news, and will distort whatever you say. Same with bpharuc, and defumes. Name callers. Jim - Just friendly advice. Ya, I should. But really do get their knickers in a twist. ;) Yep, hk, de-fumes and bpuharic are hopless write offs. -- Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it. |
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On 4/25/10 5:20 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 25/04/2010 11:14 AM, hk wrote: You spend most of your time here expressing your envy of others and in "money arguments." My guess is that you don't have two nickels to rub together, that you are scared ****less about what happens when your job ends, and that you are expressing nothing more here than bravado. You have no boat, right? Do you have a car? You claim to be wealthy...so what's your house look like? How many dress suits do you own that you've bought in the last couple of years? How much do you pay for your suits? Think what you want. BTW, I don't even own a suit, business casual mostly. Often just wear blue jeans and a buttoned shirt. Only politicians, lawyers, salesmen and butt kissers wear suits. House is in the right end of town, 2848 sq foot for 2. No boat at the moment. Have F150, hitch up a rental when I do go fishing. And you? Swamp land in Lousiana with a home made raft? No, Louisiana is too humid for me, though I do like to visit there. My wife and I live in a modest house in a suburb about 40 miles SE of Washington, D.C. We have a couple of boats, a couple of cars, an SUV, and a motorcycle. I have quite a few nice suits in good condition. -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:20:16 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote: "bpuharic" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:15:37 -0700, "Bill McKee" Seems as if your are very unhappy, and it is all about the lack of money in your case. typical right wing pervert. i worked hard all my life for what i got. so did 100,000,000 other americans. his view? the rich deserved to steal our money. all we'd do is spend it on our families. they'd use it to party. and they're rich. they deserve it. he thinks hard work is a perversion. typical right whiner Blah, blah, blah. You are unhappy because you got no money. Every time you put fingers to keyboard, you reinforce that statement. guess you think i, and 100,000,000 other hard working americans should be grateful to wall street for what they've done for america that's the nice thing about the right. they have a god...rich folks. no matter HOW much the middle class suffers...and 100,000,000 HAVE suffered.... the rich is always right. nice to have a security blanket like that |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 17:16:24 -0400, hk
wrote: Among other things, I'm wondering who Hitler's jewish wife was...it couldn't have been Eva Braun, because she was Catholic. Must have been something Canuck read on one of his right-wing stormtroop sites. he probably thinks it was michelle obama. after all, he thinks obama's been president for 9 years. |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:48:05 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 25/04/2010 11:34 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 10:17:03 -0600, wrote: when i worked for texas instruments, some of our equipment used a touch screen GUI. the only US manufacturer of GUI's was supported by the DoD even though it lost money, because it was a 'strategic technology.' so right off the bat you're filled with bull****. Into the bottle so early? Stay on subject. I wasn't talking about TI or touch screens. I was talking about Fanny, Freddie, GM, City, BAC etc. You know, corporate welfare. I don't think those that invented taxation had bailing out GM in mind. let me type this slowly so you u nderstand your bitch was about govt support of worthless and failing companies i just showed you how this has been going on for years. with other companies. you? the point went right over your tin foil hat covered head not too bright, are you, right winger? 2) Obama is debt spending like no other in history. except for george bush, ronald reagan, FDR, etc. again he's spouting bull****. Nope. Look it up. Never before has any president debt-spent so fast as Obama. and never in 80 years, have we had the economic mess left to us by the rich white president you're not too bright so you don't know what's happening in the economy, do you? No controls on government spending. None. Just record deficits and record debt. Just like a debt worshiper out of control with other peoples money. our debt, after obama's spending, will be lower than the debt/GDP ratio of the US after ww2. more bull****. No bull****. US governemnt is broke. The only way they can borrow money these days is loan it to themselves. Federal Reserve creates it, Obama spends it. notice you didn't say anything about the FACT that our debt burden will be LESS than it was after ww2, did you? we survived that, didn't we? oh. we didn't have a black president. i'm sure you'll make that reference 4) Obama hasn't kept any of his major promises such as Iraq. really? got any proof of that? right now US troop levels in iraq are at 50K. the lowest they've been in years. more right wing bull**** He said he would be out in 6 months. 16 months later we are still there. How much proof does your pea brain need? what he actually said was that his security policy would be determined by the situation on the ground THAT was what he said. i know you're a right wing lunatic, but DO try to be less obvious, OK? 5) Obama behaves as if above the law, ROFLMAO!!! did he REALLY write this??? HAHAHAHAH!!! george bush: -arrested american citizens on american soil without charge -wiretapped without court approval -kept americans in prision with no access to counsel -tortured americans in violation of law What president hasn't? ROFLMAO!!! is there any more proof he's a RACIST?? he says obama is evil incarnate...and proof of this?? he'd done exactly what every other president has done but he's the worst...so if he's the worst...and he's as bad as all the others...the only difference is: he's black. see GM bond holders sho didn't get their day in debtors court. Totally bypassed established bankruptcy laws. gee. bankruptcy laws. bush TORTURED US CITIZENS ON AMERICAN SOIL obama 'bypassed bankruptcy laws' but obama, you see, is a darkie. and bush was rich. and white. Ah, the racist excuse. Do you mean because Obama is black the law does not apply to him? notice how he ignores the fact bush thought the laws about TORTURING AMERICAN CITiZENS didn't apply to him? yet obama is more evil because of....bankruptcy laws. gee. think his hatred might be due to race hatred of obama? |
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On 4/25/10 5:54 PM, John H wrote:
Again, you should learn to read...and appreciate the proper use of words. I'm thinking of getting a pool together on your next (and hopefully, final) hospitalization. Got any inside info, as it were? -- The Tea Party's teabaggers are just the Republican base by another name. |
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On 25/04/2010 12:02 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:24:23 -0600, wrote: On 25/04/2010 9:40 AM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 09:11:00 -0600, wrote: Why should I? I worry about my family first yep. typical right whiner. no patriotism. no honor. just pure unadulterated greed. Just like any other monkey this planet. You should read Maslow ah. i see your problem. you're an authoritarian. you believe in sacred texts and can't think on your own. that's why you're a right whiner. Why make the same mistakes people made 100 years ago? I am not authoritarian but respect authority to a point. yes. i know about maslow. i minored in psychology, and went to nursing school Somehow I think you are bull****ing. If you really had a degree in basic psychology you would know people are motivated by their needs and their greeds. And greed isn't just about money, it could be recognition, self worth, entitlement, manipulation... the funny thing about maslow...from the viewpoint of a physical scientist...there's precious little DATA to back him up. his is a heuristic view of the world. good in its own doman, but pretty much useless for actually looking at how the world works None of these theries have proof and are "perfect". Just Maslow made a lot of sense to me and use it to this day as it seems to be one that works. you have no capability for independent thought, so NATURALLY think in terms of authority, stereotypes and cliches. I repeat, why make the same mistakes people made 100 years ago? I don't have problems in accepting other peoples rational thoughts, and acepting many of them. I freely admit I am a composition of many thoughts not all of which are my own. It is how we learn. -when it's pointed out unemployment has dropped under obama? you want to change HOW it's measured I question those with shakey numbers, fast taking abd bull****. -when it's pointed out the US is the LEAST redistributionist economy on earth? you say you don't care, that your theology requires it's the MOST balanced. So? Borrowing from a wise statement of the day, is this about same rewards for all or equal access to opportunity? -when it's pointed out the economy is growing you say it cant be growing or you'd be wrong. Because I don't think one dimensionally. GDP can grow but does not mean people are employed or making more money or happier. right wing cliches and bull****. You like to hide behind that leftist crap. . We all be needy and greedy, it defines us all. Just what is your need and focus of your greed. Motivates people well when you understand that. gee. greed. no patriotism. no honor. no pride in a hard day's work Again, you are thinking one dimensionally. If one has a need to be honorable, pride etc., as most do, then they will become that to satisfy the need. It fits. you despise the middle class Nope. you hate working people. Nope. They are the back bone of society. But governance is ****ing on them with debt and bailouts robbing their wealth. you've said it's all about you and your family. #1 is my family in my life. As it should be. me? i actually DO volunteer to help my country. i take PRIDE in being middle class. i take PRIDE in america, and its people. My wife does this too, no need for her to work. Even when we were in the US as she wasn't allowed to work, she volunteered. Some idiot even complained to INS once. Even INS brushed them off. One thing I always admired about Americans is their pride in their country. Much to be proud off, never before have so many lived so well with the foundation of less but functional government and equal access to opportunity. Mutual repect and foundation of law. Now it is decaying. you? you despise them all unless they're rich Not as a rule. Just the ones that envy and want to use governemnt to steal from successful people. Governemnt taxation should not be used for GM, Citi, Chrysler, BAC and a long list of other corrupted entities. And people who support this rape of wealth, well, they have lost their values. 2003: http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul128.html 2005: http://walkthrough.blogs.nytimes.com...version-means/ Look at the dates. Then read up on any tried and true economic book printed. Rising debt and interest rate - recession/depression. really? then, perhaps, you can tell me why the US had a higher debt/GDP ratio after ww2 and built a world class economy. How much debt is functional and how much debt you can afford is not related at all to GDP. It is just a way to turd polish a bad situation. How much you can borrow is related to how much you can pay. With a middle class in debt up to it's ass, unlike WW II, today does not have the payment elasticity of WW II. And when WW II ended, the cash flow corrected it. No such correction exists today but for a massive government downsizing. And I don't mean $30M Obama style, I mean $1.7 trillion style. Any half baked president really out to serve his country would take every governemnt department bar none and ask how does this help ALL Americans *EQUALLY*. Then cut the bottom 50%. Take military spending, reduce it by 60% and get the f--- out of Iran leaving a pillar. "If you don't live civilly in this world, this will someday become ground zero." then leave. Let them think about it. oh. you don't know bet you dont even know what percentage of the US budget goes for debt service, do you? http://www.usdebtclock.org/ But know that with interest rates being so artificially low, that $193 billion each year or so could easily become a trillion with fair market rates. As they are only paying a little under 1.4%. It really should be 5%. They have also created a lot of Federal Reserve inflationary funny money which means the interest rates will go up or the value of the USD will go down and the truth will be inbetween. Good news is individual debt is going down as smart people are getting rid of debt anticipating higher interest rates. Just that the stumps like you are so biased and closed minded you never put credence to others, thought history would not repeat etc. says the guy who thinks greed is good... how'd that work out for wall street? US holdings, pretty dam good for 2009 and so far in 2010. Up about 53% in the last 4 years. And you? -- Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it. |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 16:24:56 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 25/04/2010 12:02 PM, bpuharic wrote: On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:24:23 -0600, wrote: Just like any other monkey this planet. You should read Maslow ah. i see your problem. you're an authoritarian. you believe in sacred texts and can't think on your own. that's why you're a right whiner. Why make the same mistakes people made 100 years ago? I am not authoritarian but respect authority to a point. says the guy who thinks we should repeat the mistakes of 1929 ironic, isn't it? yes. i know about maslow. i minored in psychology, and went to nursing school Somehow I think you are bull****ing. If you really had a degree in basic psychology you would know people are motivated by their needs and their greeds. And greed isn't just about money, it could be recognition, self worth, entitlement, manipulation... now let's see...i said i MINORED in psychology...to him that means i got a degree in psych. gee. and he claims he can read. and he's been to college! the funny thing about maslow...from the viewpoint of a physical scientist...there's precious little DATA to back him up. his is a heuristic view of the world. good in its own doman, but pretty much useless for actually looking at how the world works None of these theries have proof and are "perfect". Just Maslow made a lot of sense to me and use it to this day as it seems to be one that works. i have no problem with accepting maslow as a guide. in nursing school we used it to priortize treatment of patients. but treating it as gospel to guide economic policy? i dont THINK so... you have no capability for independent thought, so NATURALLY think in terms of authority, stereotypes and cliches. I repeat, why make the same mistakes people made 100 years ago? says the guy who wants to repeat the mistakes of 1929? why? you think mistakes of 80 years ago are better than those made 100 years ago? -when it's pointed out unemployment has dropped under obama? you want to change HOW it's measured I question those with shakey numbers, fast taking abd bull****. gee. the measurement method has been the same for decades. yet you question it only for the darkie president. strange...almost as if you thought race should be a factor... -when it's pointed out the US is the LEAST redistributionist economy on earth? you say you don't care, that your theology requires it's the MOST balanced. So? Borrowing from a wise statement of the day, is this about same rewards for all or equal access to opportunity? you have a remarkable gullibility. you think that, if someone is rich, they know what they're doing and deserve to be rich any proof of that? nope. -when it's pointed out the economy is growing you say it cant be growing or you'd be wrong. Because I don't think one dimensionally. GDP can grow but does not mean people are employed or making more money or happier. gee. i use a multidimensional analysis...GDP growth...unemployment drop, etc you? you want to change the goalposts every single time a measurement disagrees with your right wing theology. . We all be needy and greedy, it defines us all. Just what is your need and focus of your greed. Motivates people well when you understand that. gee. greed. no patriotism. no honor. no pride in a hard day's work Again, you are thinking one dimensionally. If one has a need to be honorable, pride etc., as most do, then they will become that to satisfy the need. It fits. somehow i don't think a medal of honor winner's 'greed' is the same as a wall street banker's greed. i'm sure, to a right winger, they're the same, since a rich wall street banker is a hero... but some of us see it differently you despise the middle class Nope. you hate working people. Nope. They are the back bone of society. But governance is ****ing on them with debt and bailouts robbing their wealth. says the guy who routinely calls 100,000,000 middle class americans dupes for being raped by wall street. One thing I always admired about Americans is their pride in their country. Much to be proud off, never before have so many lived so well with the foundation of less but functional government and equal access to opportunity. Mutual repect and foundation of law. except, in your view, for the middle class who are just a bunch of sheep since they're not rich. Now it is decaying. you? you despise them all unless they're rich Not as a rule. Just the ones that envy and want to use governemnt to steal from successful people. ah. successful people. like wall street bankers who have done SO much for the middle class. your hero worship...your worship of wall street leaves alot of room between you and working folks. Governemnt taxation should not be used for GM, Citi, Chrysler, BAC and a long list of other corrupted entities. And people who support this rape of wealth, well, they have lost their values. and, it seems, you ignore the fact your view was tried. somehow evidence has no effect on your thinking typical right winger. really? then, perhaps, you can tell me why the US had a higher debt/GDP ratio after ww2 and built a world class economy. How much debt is functional and how much debt you can afford is not related at all to GDP. It is just a way to turd polish a bad situation. more doubletalk. the fact is that, for 30 years, we've had right wing free market fundamentalism drive up the secdtion of GDP based on the financial sector to 40%. and the right said NOTHING about it... except for people like you who worship the 'successful' rich How much you can borrow is related to how much you can pay. With a middle class in debt up to it's ass, unlike WW II, today does not have the payment elasticity of WW II. gee...let's see...in ww2, the rich at least gave the middle class a decent living TODAY the rich doesnt even give the middle class a pay raise. in 10 years, productivity has increased 28%. and the amount given to the middle class? zero. nothing. not a dime. yet wall street bitches that the middle class isn't spending and folks like you bitch at the middle class because you think we should starve our children to finance wall street rich bankers oh. you don't know bet you dont even know what percentage of the US budget goes for debt service, do you? http://www.usdebtclock.org/ But know that with interest rates being so artificially low, that $193 billion each year or so could easily become a trillion with fair market rates. As they are only paying a little under 1.4%. It really should be 5%. They have also created a lot of Federal Reserve inflationary funny money which means the interest rates will go up or the value of the USD will go down and the truth will be inbetween. the basis of the US economy is hte middle class...middle class spending... 30 years ago i remember wall street used to INCREASE when unemployment went UP because they thought it reduced corporate debt. today it goes DOWN because even wall street realizes we need at least SOMETHING of a middle class how long is it going to take the right wing to realize we need low unemployment and a decent raise every year? so far you guys believe that the middle class should be a permanent rape victim Good news is individual debt is going down as smart people are getting rid of debt anticipating higher interest rates. Just that the stumps like you are so biased and closed minded you never put credence to others, thought history would not repeat etc. says the guy who thinks greed is good... how'd that work out for wall street? US holdings, pretty dam good for 2009 and so far in 2010. Up about 53% in the last 4 years. And you? and the other 100,000,000 americans? oh. i forgot. you'd be happy if their children were in the streets |
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