On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:56:30 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 15/04/2010 12:03 AM, jps wrote:

A bloody good idea...


98 percent of Americans are getting a tax cut this year thanks to
Democratic legislation opposed by every single Republican. The
teabaggers are still upset, of course, since this is somehow more
evidence of "socialism". They are distraught that the richest 2
percent aren't getting their taxes cut as well.


You have to look at democrats for teabaggers.

As for tax cuts, two ways to look at it. Is Obama and democrats
realizing Reaganomics was the right idea?

Or is this more BS from the left? Gums a moving different than the pen.
Obama style?

gee. we cut taxes for the rich by 70% over the last 20 years.

how'd that work out?

On 15/04/2010 6:11 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:56:30 -0600,
wrote:

On 15/04/2010 12:03 AM, jps wrote:

A bloody good idea...


98 percent of Americans are getting a tax cut this year thanks to
Democratic legislation opposed by every single Republican. The
teabaggers are still upset, of course, since this is somehow more
evidence of "socialism". They are distraught that the richest 2
percent aren't getting their taxes cut as well.


You have to look at democrats for teabaggers.

As for tax cuts, two ways to look at it. Is Obama and democrats
realizing Reaganomics was the right idea?

Or is this more BS from the left? Gums a moving different than the pen.
Obama style?

gee. we cut taxes for the rich by 70% over the last 20 years.

how'd that work out?


You are good proof why poor will remain poor.

--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 18:32:22 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 15/04/2010 6:11 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:56:30 -0600,
wrote:


gee. we cut taxes for the rich by 70% over the last 20 years.

how'd that work out?


You are good proof why poor will remain poor.

i ask again:

how'd those tax cuts for the rich work out?

notice all he does is bitch?

fOn Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:03:54 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:11:19 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

gee. we cut taxes for the rich by 70% over the last 20 years.

We cut the tax for everyone. My taxes are about half what they were 20
years ago and we make more money.

yeah. the middle class got a tax cut of about 25 bucks.


I still have every 1040 since 1984, When I get a minute I will compile
a list of gross vs tax and let's see what it looks like.
I know I used to always say I expected to have that be about 20%. Now
it is more like 10-11%.
Anyone else want to play?

when's the last time they cut middle class tax rates by 70%?

"bpuharic" wrote in message
news
fOn Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:03:54 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:11:19 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

gee. we cut taxes for the rich by 70% over the last 20 years.

We cut the tax for everyone. My taxes are about half what they were 20
years ago and we make more money.

yeah. the middle class got a tax cut of about 25 bucks.


I still have every 1040 since 1984, When I get a minute I will compile
a list of gross vs tax and let's see what it looks like.
I know I used to always say I expected to have that be about 20%. Now
it is more like 10-11%.
Anyone else want to play?

when's the last time they cut middle class tax rates by 70%?

My Federal tax rate this year was about 8%, I do not think it has ever been
that low. Most of my income these days is dividends that get a preferred
treatment as they have already been taxed. The other is a couple small
retirements and Social Security. And that was with the standard deduction.
Even with $7k of medical and dental, could not itemize. When I was in the
semi-rich catagory for income they took about 30% federally. Plus 1.5% for
medicare. During Clinton years, and the dot.com boom my options remitted
35% + 1.5% to the Fed's and 10% to the state of California. Seems as us
"rich:" were paying more than our share.

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:42:59 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
news
fOn Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:03:54 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:11:19 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

gee. we cut taxes for the rich by 70% over the last 20 years.

We cut the tax for everyone. My taxes are about half what they were 20
years ago and we make more money.

yeah. the middle class got a tax cut of about 25 bucks.


I still have every 1040 since 1984, When I get a minute I will compile
a list of gross vs tax and let's see what it looks like.
I know I used to always say I expected to have that be about 20%. Now
it is more like 10-11%.
Anyone else want to play?

when's the last time they cut middle class tax rates by 70%?

My Federal tax rate this year was about 8%

like i said: when's the last time they cut taxes for the middle class?

you keep dodging the question

On 4/16/10 6:11 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:42:59 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


wrote in message
news
fOn Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:03:54 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:11:19 -0400, wrote:

gee. we cut taxes for the rich by 70% over the last 20 years.

We cut the tax for everyone. My taxes are about half what they were 20
years ago and we make more money.

yeah. the middle class got a tax cut of about 25 bucks.


I still have every 1040 since 1984, When I get a minute I will compile
a list of gross vs tax and let's see what it looks like.
I know I used to always say I expected to have that be about 20%. Now
it is more like 10-11%.
Anyone else want to play?

when's the last time they cut middle class tax rates by 70%?

My Federal tax rate this year was about 8%

like i said: when's the last time they cut taxes for the middle class?

you keep dodging the question



i've seen or heard three independent reports so far this week that
indicate that for the middle classes, taxes are now the lowest they have
been in 65 years, and for the wealthy, the lowest they've been in close
to 40 years, because of obama's tax cuts.

not surprising, the tea party protests are...a fraud.


--
http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 06:38:07 -0400, hk
wrote:

On 4/16/10 6:11 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 20:42:59 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


when's the last time they cut middle class tax rates by 70%?

My Federal tax rate this year was about 8%

like i said: when's the last time they cut taxes for the middle class?

you keep dodging the question



i've seen or heard three independent reports so far this week that
indicate that for the middle classes, taxes are now the lowest they have
been in 65 years, and for the wealthy, the lowest they've been in close
to 40 years, because of obama's tax cuts.

not surprising, the tea party protests are...a fraud.

yep. absolutely true. obama has done what the GOP said would cause
disaster...cut middle class taxes

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 06:38:07 -0400, hk
wrote:

i've seen or heard three independent reports so far this week that
indicate that for the middle classes, taxes are now the lowest they have
been in 65 years, and for the wealthy, the lowest they've been in close
to 40 years, because of obama's tax cuts.

not surprising, the tea party protests are...a fraud.


I agree and I am one of the conservative folks here.
If tea party people want to attack the deficit they need to talk about
raising taxes. In the out years when our kids will be shouldering the
debt burden there will not be enough discretionary spending to touch
the deficit if we cut it all.
At some point we are really going to have to throw SS and Medicare
under the bus. Nobody is ever going to do that. They will simply
"monetize" the debt and inflate our way out. Sure you will still get
your $1700 check from SS but $100 won't cover an early bird dinner at
the Perkins.

All entitlements at the federal level should be thrown under the bus.
Let the states do entitlements and see how long they last. What we need
is a return to common sense and the teaching of liberty to our children.

On 4/16/10 3:04 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 06:38:07 -0400,
wrote:

i've seen or heard three independent reports so far this week that
indicate that for the middle classes, taxes are now the lowest they have
been in 65 years, and for the wealthy, the lowest they've been in close
to 40 years, because of obama's tax cuts.

not surprising, the tea party protests are...a fraud.


I agree and I am one of the conservative folks here.
If tea party people want to attack the deficit they need to talk about
raising taxes. In the out years when our kids will be shouldering the
debt burden there will not be enough discretionary spending to touch
the deficit if we cut it all.
At some point we are really going to have to throw SS and Medicare
under the bus. Nobody is ever going to do that. They will simply
"monetize" the debt and inflate our way out. Sure you will still get
your $1700 check from SS but $100 won't cover an early bird dinner at
the Perkins.

All entitlements at the federal level should be thrown under the bus.
Let the states do entitlements and see how long they last. What we need
is a return to common sense and the teaching of liberty to our children.


Ahhh...Bertie's been collecting teabagger sound bits to repost here.

--
http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym