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Canuck57[_9_] April 11th 10 03:07 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 10/04/2010 10:35 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:16:00 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:54:03 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:27:04 -0400, wrote:

larry kudlow, a far right wing fundamentalist christian who writes for
'national review' admits the economy is booming and that we may be
looking at rapid growth:

http://article.nationalreview.com/43...g/larry-kudlow

The real question is how long it will take to trickle down to the
working class. You are certainly quick to embrace Reaganomics when
your guy is in there.


healthcare is reaganomics?? really?


Try to keep up. This is a topic about the recovery. This has been a
wall street recovery., We are still waiting for the trickle down you
seem to be so confident will happen..


Unemployment in Lee County Florida is 17% and the snowbirds haven't
gone home yet. When the seasonal workers hit the rolls it may be
closer to 20% unemployed..


gee. when lee county becomes the whole country you let me know


What is national unemployment? How many are "under employed" working
for a lot less than they were 2-3 years ago??


and florida is a right win state

no wonder unemployment's so high


One reason is because all of the stimulus project contracts were
awarded to "blue" counties. Even the work that is going on here is
being done by Palm Beach and Miami contractors.


bpuharic is beyond hope, just a envious slug. Rich are bad and he is
angry because he needs a bailout that isn't coming.

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Canuck57[_9_] April 11th 10 03:50 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 11/04/2010 7:37 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 9:32 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2010 7:33 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 10/04/2010 5:40 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Apr 10, 4:27 pm, wrote:
larry kudlow, a far right wing fundamentalist christian who writes
for
'national review' admits the economy is booming and that we may be
looking at rapid growth:

http://article.nationalreview.com/43...m-is-coming/la...



Hw was a "fundamentalist christian" and you still think he makes
sense? Typical liberal, thinks someone who believes the universe was
created in 7 days makes sense.

7 days to God and 7 days to man being the same is a dangerious
assumption.

--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.


Why does it take an idiot like you to make a good point?


I prefer Einstein and Hawking to baffle me with BS preaching.


I'm sure both Einstein and Hawking do baffle you. Charles Schulz would
baffle you. I haven't seen a single intellectually sound thought or
posit from you since you signed on here as yet another boatless
right-winger.


Well, at least I don't worship Obama at the price of freedom.

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The Liberal way, take no responsibility.

hk April 11th 10 03:56 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 4/11/10 10:50 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 11/04/2010 7:37 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 9:32 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2010 7:33 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 10/04/2010 5:40 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Apr 10, 4:27 pm, wrote:
larry kudlow, a far right wing fundamentalist christian who writes
for
'national review' admits the economy is booming and that we may be
looking at rapid growth:

http://article.nationalreview.com/43...m-is-coming/la...




Hw was a "fundamentalist christian" and you still think he makes
sense? Typical liberal, thinks someone who believes the universe was
created in 7 days makes sense.

7 days to God and 7 days to man being the same is a dangerious
assumption.

--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.


Why does it take an idiot like you to make a good point?

I prefer Einstein and Hawking to baffle me with BS preaching.


I'm sure both Einstein and Hawking do baffle you. Charles Schulz would
baffle you. I haven't seen a single intellectually sound thought or
posit from you since you signed on here as yet another boatless
right-winger.


Well, at least I don't worship Obama at the price of freedom.



I don't worship obama or any other pol. I do think obama as a person and
as a president is many, many rungs up the ladder from George W. Bush,
who I believe will maintain his rep as the worst president in the
history of the United States.

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Canuck57[_9_] April 11th 10 03:58 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 11/04/2010 7:51 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 9:46 AM, Canuck57 wrote:


Me, I saw this coming in in 2004, and reacted accordingly from 2004
through 2008. In those years I reduced my exposure to US economics and
debt.


And then you drove 1000 miles to your favorite fishing hole...
And the check is in the mail...


Yep, even went to Florida one year to go fishing (and sun burned) on
Christmas day. Lake Okeechobee Florida, big mouth and crappie. Had a
hoot. 1999 I think.

No checks in the mail, LOL. Maybe for you.

--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.

hk April 11th 10 04:01 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 4/11/10 10:58 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 11/04/2010 7:51 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 9:46 AM, Canuck57 wrote:


Me, I saw this coming in in 2004, and reacted accordingly from 2004
through 2008. In those years I reduced my exposure to US economics and
debt.


And then you drove 1000 miles to your favorite fishing hole...
And the check is in the mail...


Yep, even went to Florida one year to go fishing (and sun burned) on
Christmas day. Lake Okeechobee Florida, big mouth and crappie. Had a
hoot. 1999 I think.

No checks in the mail, LOL. Maybe for you.


My guess is you have a little **** and no pot to put it in...and that
you survive month to month on some sort of disability check. Right?

--
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Canuck57[_9_] April 11th 10 04:31 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 11/04/2010 9:01 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 10:58 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 11/04/2010 7:51 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 9:46 AM, Canuck57 wrote:


Me, I saw this coming in in 2004, and reacted accordingly from 2004
through 2008. In those years I reduced my exposure to US economics and
debt.

And then you drove 1000 miles to your favorite fishing hole...
And the check is in the mail...


Yep, even went to Florida one year to go fishing (and sun burned) on
Christmas day. Lake Okeechobee Florida, big mouth and crappie. Had a
hoot. 1999 I think.

No checks in the mail, LOL. Maybe for you.


My guess is you have a little **** and no pot to put it in...and that
you survive month to month on some sort of disability check. Right?


Alway **** in a can in the boat. #1 cause of things gone bad in a boat
is ****ing overboard and going in after it. I leave that for people
like you.

--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.

hk April 11th 10 04:40 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 4/11/10 11:31 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 11/04/2010 9:01 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 10:58 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 11/04/2010 7:51 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 9:46 AM, Canuck57 wrote:


Me, I saw this coming in in 2004, and reacted accordingly from 2004
through 2008. In those years I reduced my exposure to US economics and
debt.

And then you drove 1000 miles to your favorite fishing hole...
And the check is in the mail...

Yep, even went to Florida one year to go fishing (and sun burned) on
Christmas day. Lake Okeechobee Florida, big mouth and crappie. Had a
hoot. 1999 I think.

No checks in the mail, LOL. Maybe for you.


My guess is you have a little **** and no pot to put it in...and that
you survive month to month on some sort of disability check. Right?


Alway **** in a can in the boat. #1 cause of things gone bad in a boat
is ****ing overboard and going in after it. I leave that for people like
you.


Yeah...I figured you were on disability

--
http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

Canuck57[_9_] April 11th 10 04:52 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 11/04/2010 9:40 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 11:31 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 11/04/2010 9:01 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 10:58 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 11/04/2010 7:51 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 9:46 AM, Canuck57 wrote:


Me, I saw this coming in in 2004, and reacted accordingly from 2004
through 2008. In those years I reduced my exposure to US economics
and
debt.

And then you drove 1000 miles to your favorite fishing hole...
And the check is in the mail...

Yep, even went to Florida one year to go fishing (and sun burned) on
Christmas day. Lake Okeechobee Florida, big mouth and crappie. Had a
hoot. 1999 I think.

No checks in the mail, LOL. Maybe for you.


My guess is you have a little **** and no pot to put it in...and that
you survive month to month on some sort of disability check. Right?


Alway **** in a can in the boat. #1 cause of things gone bad in a boat
is ****ing overboard and going in after it. I leave that for people like
you.


Yeah...I figured you were on disability


I figure you are. Certainly would qualify with your lack of
rationality. How does it feel to be a dumb****?


--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.

hk April 11th 10 04:55 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 4/11/10 11:52 AM, Canuck57 wrote:

How does it feel to be a dumb****?




Check with loogy and snottyscotty.

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http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

Canuck57[_9_] April 11th 10 05:53 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 11/04/2010 9:55 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 11:52 AM, Canuck57 wrote:

How does it feel to be a dumb****?


Check with loogy and snottyscotty.



No, I asked you! So how does it feel to be a dumb****?

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The Liberal way, take no responsibility.

nom=de=plume April 11th 10 08:06 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 10/04/2010 7:33 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 10/04/2010 5:40 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Apr 10, 4:27 pm, wrote:
larry kudlow, a far right wing fundamentalist christian who writes for
'national review' admits the economy is booming and that we may be
looking at rapid growth:

http://article.nationalreview.com/43...m-is-coming/la...

Hw was a "fundamentalist christian" and you still think he makes
sense? Typical liberal, thinks someone who believes the universe was
created in 7 days makes sense.

7 days to God and 7 days to man being the same is a dangerious
assumption.

--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.



Why does it take an idiot like you to make a good point?


I prefer Einstein and Hawking to baffle me with BS preaching. But don't
neccessarily think science precludes God. Just our interpretation is
child like. And knowing time is not a linear constant as our minds
percieve it, an easy deduction if you can think laterally and rationalize
well.



I as well. And, you're right... it doesn't preclude God. I think it's
enhances and expands Him.

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Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume April 11th 10 08:07 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
"hk" wrote in message
...
On 4/11/10 9:32 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2010 7:33 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 10/04/2010 5:40 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Apr 10, 4:27 pm, wrote:
larry kudlow, a far right wing fundamentalist christian who writes
for
'national review' admits the economy is booming and that we may be
looking at rapid growth:

http://article.nationalreview.com/43...m-is-coming/la...


Hw was a "fundamentalist christian" and you still think he makes
sense? Typical liberal, thinks someone who believes the universe was
created in 7 days makes sense.

7 days to God and 7 days to man being the same is a dangerious
assumption.

--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.


Why does it take an idiot like you to make a good point?


I prefer Einstein and Hawking to baffle me with BS preaching.


I'm sure both Einstein and Hawking do baffle you. Charles Schulz would
baffle you. I haven't seen a single intellectually sound thought or posit
from you since you signed on here as yet another boatless right-winger.



Now, now... he said a good thing. He should get a cookie.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume April 11th 10 08:08 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
"hk" wrote in message
...
On 4/11/10 10:50 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 11/04/2010 7:37 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 9:32 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/04/2010 7:33 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 10/04/2010 5:40 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Apr 10, 4:27 pm, wrote:
larry kudlow, a far right wing fundamentalist christian who writes
for
'national review' admits the economy is booming and that we may be
looking at rapid growth:

http://article.nationalreview.com/43...m-is-coming/la...




Hw was a "fundamentalist christian" and you still think he makes
sense? Typical liberal, thinks someone who believes the universe was
created in 7 days makes sense.

7 days to God and 7 days to man being the same is a dangerious
assumption.

--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.


Why does it take an idiot like you to make a good point?

I prefer Einstein and Hawking to baffle me with BS preaching.

I'm sure both Einstein and Hawking do baffle you. Charles Schulz would
baffle you. I haven't seen a single intellectually sound thought or
posit from you since you signed on here as yet another boatless
right-winger.


Well, at least I don't worship Obama at the price of freedom.



I don't worship obama or any other pol. I do think obama as a person and
as a president is many, many rungs up the ladder from George W. Bush, who
I believe will maintain his rep as the worst president in the history of
the United States.

--
http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym



What he was trying to say was that we shouldn't worship Obama like he
worships Palin/Gingrich.

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Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume April 11th 10 08:10 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 10/04/2010 7:38 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Apr 10, 5:14 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:57:55 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch



wrote:
On Apr 10, 4:53 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:27:04 -0400, wrote:
larry kudlow, a far right wing fundamentalist christian who writes
for
'national review' admits the economy is booming and that we may be
looking at rapid growth:

http://article.nationalreview.com/43...m-is-coming/la...

Kudlow is Jewish who converted to Roman Catholism in 1996.

Hardly a far right wing fundamentalist Christian.

He's also been wrong more than he has been right.

If you voted for Obama and are unemployed, you deserve to be. SUCKER.

and what about those who voted for bush to wreck the economy?


Bush's 8 year expansion of the economy after the collapse at the end
of the Clinton years was amazing. Unfortunately, it was finally
sabotaged by Barney Frank and other libs who caused the mortgage
meltdown.



Good grief! You're in the running to be dumber than nuck.


Not at all. Nothing wrong with the economic expansion at all. It was the
debt that was mismanaged. Giving loans below risk/reward costs to people
who could not afford them. Created a bubble of cheap underpriced defunct
debt. Then the bubble broke. I think it was 2007 when real return
savings rates inverted to inflation, a 100% assured signal a
recession/depression is coming.

Me, I saw this coming in in 2004, and reacted accordingly from 2004
through 2008. In those years I reduced my exposure to US economics and
debt. And what US stock I own has a large foreign content even before
Buffet said it was cool to do so. In fact, I didn't own a CD/GIC or a
bank stock at all until spring last year when I picked a couple of foreign
banks that have yeilded me some nice returns.

Instead of bitching about the rich, whining about BS and following Obama
like a deciple, you should sit down and think it through and you will
realize Obamas lips mater not a damn.

--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.



You're so brilliant. You should be dipped in bronze and put on someone's
front law. At least you'll be quieter.

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Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume April 11th 10 08:12 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 11/04/2010 9:55 AM, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 11:52 AM, Canuck57 wrote:

How does it feel to be a dumb****?


Check with loogy and snottyscotty.



No, I asked you! So how does it feel to be a dumb****?

--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.



You really shouldn't ask a question when you know first hand the answer.

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Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume April 11th 10 08:14 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 10/04/2010 7:35 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Apr 10, 4:53 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:27:04 -0400, wrote:
larry kudlow, a far right wing fundamentalist christian who writes for
'national review' admits the economy is booming and that we may be
looking at rapid growth:

http://article.nationalreview.com/43...m-is-coming/la...

Kudlow is Jewish who converted to Roman Catholism in 1996.

Hardly a far right wing fundamentalist Christian.

He's also been wrong more than he has been right.


If you voted for Obama and are unemployed, you deserve to be. SUCKER.



Because the recession, the worst downturn since the Great Depression
started
under Bush. Got it.


It started long before Bush Jr. took office actually. Lets skip the name
calling for a minute as it maters little at this point.

This depression is about debt. Too much debt and much of it going
delinquent. How did this occur? Why did it occur? Why are not
politicians (any party) dealing with the causes?

Now ever well engineered system has checks and balances. In 1980 when
interest rates skyrocketed it was a check saying too much debt and rose to
discourage more debt and an incentive to pay off debt. In time the rates
came right back down preventing run-away debt.

In 1980 the high interest rates also gave the banks the cash flow to
absorb the delinquent debt. High rates also kept real estate prices in
check to stabilize inflation. The high rates had a real purpose and
served well.

Trouble is congress being a big debtor didn't like so much money going to
debt services. Hell, any addicted to debt type knows they don't want high
rates. So congress tweeked the banking to allow more leverage, removing
much of the check that creates higher rates when too much debt is out.
This allowed rampant debt growth without regard to sanity.

Over time this created a huge valuation bubble in debt and real-estate.
But like any system not in proper check, it breaks. And in 2007 it broke
when ponzi debt became defunct. Since about September 2008 even DC can't
borrow money, relying on the US Fed to create almost 100% of its debt
needs.

And worse, the problem isn't fixed. It is still very out there.

--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.



So, I guess that huge tax cut Bush pushed through doesn't count?

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com...-trillion.aspx


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Nom=de=Plume



bpuharic April 11th 10 11:27 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:50:30 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:



Well, at least I don't worship Obama at the price of freedom.


no, you worship wall street.


bpuharic April 11th 10 11:31 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:46:30 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:



Not at all. Nothing wrong with the economic expansion at all. It was
the debt that was mismanaged


and yet you love george bush...the rich white frat boy who got us into
this mess, and hate obama, the black guy who's getting us out of it

any more proof needed that you hate obama only 'cuz he's black?


.. Giving loans below risk/reward costs to
people who could not afford them. Created a bubble of cheap underpriced
defunct debt.


well, no. what caused it was rich guys inventing new 'financial
instruments' like collateralized debt obligations, with no linkage to
tangible assets, who sold these alice in wonderland time bombs. THAT'S
what caused the collapse


Instead of bitching about the rich, whining about BS and following Obama
like a deciple, you should sit down and think it through and you will
realize Obamas lips mater not a damn.


and now he bitches about obama....no solutions...just bitching about
the black guy in the white house.


bpuharic April 11th 10 11:33 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 00:29:05 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:14:18 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

If you voted for Obama and are unemployed, you deserve to be. SUCKER.


and what about those who voted for bush to wreck the economy?


If you voted for the winner since 1984 you deserve what you got.


i voted for 2 winners only since 84. clintion and obama.


It was 86 when they said you could only deduct your house but they
also introduced the home equity line of credit at 125% of the value of
your house.


nope. that was a state issue, because i took out a HELOC in TX.
amazingly enough in TX, you can only borrow up to 80% of the value of
your home

Then it became, "miss a car payment, lose your house"
Fortunately the real estate bubble had already started, mostly to
cover all of those 125% equity loans.
In the 90s and 2000s when they took all of the rationality out of who
could borrow money and invented ridiculous instruments to get more
cash in the system (about $2 trillion of cash that never really
existed) the die was set. We will never really have a recovery until
we swallow that $2 trillion dollar turd. We just added to the debt and
put it on our kid's plate.


and what of collateralized debt obligations which ballooned from 1
trillion in 96 to 62 trillion in 2006.

think that might have had something to do with the collapse


bpuharic April 11th 10 11:39 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:56:18 -0400, W1TEF
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:13:59 -0400, bpuharic wrote:


?? ever hear of marciel maciel? there are far right wing fundamenalist
catholics.


I assume you are attempting to tie the Legion of Christ and Regnum
Christi to "fundamentalism"?

Neither is "fundamentalist". Maciel founded both, but neither is
"radical" in the sense that they practice a faith outside the
boundries of normal Catholic practice and worship. He, however, was a
whack job.


seems your view of fundamentalism is limited to protestants by some
private definition.

as to him being a whack job, he was much loved by the former pope. is
that a 'whack job?'


Even at that, as far as I know, Mr. Kudlow is not a member of Regnum
Christi which is a lay ministry associated with, but not controlled by
the Legion.

He's also been wrong more than he has been right.


which is why he's conservative


That's what I like about you Bob - logic and reason are your strong
suit.

Anyway...

I haven't been around in a while - how's your XYL? I assume she
recovered from the broken leg ok? Splash the Tolly yet?


not yet...will put it in the water next week...thanks for asking about
the xyl...she's completely healed and we're waiting for my return from
korea to hit the beach.


You'd be interested in this - I was cleaning out my shack the other
day and discovered a crate of "stuff" that I bought at the Boxboro
Flea Market must have been 20 years ago. Drake T-X4C, R-4C and a
TR-7. I had forgotten all about them. Boxes and manuals too. Bought
them from a guy who was active in Air Force MARS as I remember. :)


wow! beautiful rigs and worth alot of money...classics.

z

The good news is that they fired up ok and load just fine. The bad
news is that they still have the old crappy caps and resistors so they
are all original. Something of a conumdrum as I like the fact that
they are all original, on the other hand if I'm going to actually use
them in the various "antigue" QSO parties they really need to be
updated. And I think the finals in the T-X4C are soft - if I'm going
to change those, might as well change everything.

So the antique collection has just self-expanded. Heh. What with the
S-line I inherited from my Dad, the KWM-2, the Hallicrafters stuff I
inherited from my Uncle and my SX-100 (1A) and now the Drake stuff,
I've got quite a boat anchor collection.

Like they say - real radios glow in the dark. :)


you have quite a collection of great radios! i'm envious...

hk April 11th 10 11:40 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 4/11/10 6:31 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:46:30 -0600,
wrote:



Not at all. Nothing wrong with the economic expansion at all. It was
the debt that was mismanaged


and yet you love george bush...the rich white frat boy who got us into
this mess, and hate obama, the black guy who's getting us out of it

any more proof needed that you hate obama only 'cuz he's black?


. Giving loans below risk/reward costs to
people who could not afford them. Created a bubble of cheap underpriced
defunct debt.


well, no. what caused it was rich guys inventing new 'financial
instruments' like collateralized debt obligations, with no linkage to
tangible assets, who sold these alice in wonderland time bombs. THAT'S
what caused the collapse


Instead of bitching about the rich, whining about BS and following Obama
like a deciple, you should sit down and think it through and you will
realize Obamas lips mater not a damn.


and now he bitches about obama....no solutions...just bitching about
the black guy in the white house.



The righties don't have any solutions, other than trickle down.

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bpuharic April 11th 10 11:43 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 00:35:33 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:16:00 -0400, bpuharic wrote:



healthcare is reaganomics?? really?


Try to keep up. This is a topic about the recovery. This has been a
wall street recovery., We are still waiting for the trickle down you
seem to be so confident will happen..


there are a number of ways to manage trickle down. we can try reagan's
way, which said, give all the money to the rich and they'll pass some
to the middle class (they didn't), OR

we can tax them and pass along the money to the middle class in the
form of health insurance, etc.




Unemployment in Lee County Florida is 17% and the snowbirds haven't
gone home yet. When the seasonal workers hit the rolls it may be
closer to 20% unemployed..


gee. when lee county becomes the whole country you let me know


What is national unemployment? How many are "under employed" working
for a lot less than they were 2-3 years ago??


meaningless. you're trying to move the goalposts. unemployment is DOWN
under obama and more formerly discouraged people are re entering the
work force



and florida is a right win state

no wonder unemployment's so high


One reason is because all of the stimulus project contracts were
awarded to "blue" counties. Even the work that is going on here is
being done by Palm Beach and Miami contractors.


yeah i've read de rugy's nonsense. nate silver at '538.com' looked at
her analysis...she's got some big holes in it.


bpuharic April 11th 10 11:43 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:07:27 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:




bpuharic is beyond hope, just a envious slug. Rich are bad and he is
angry because he needs a bailout that isn't coming.


IOW i'm a typical working slob, which is why he despises me.


bpuharic April 11th 10 11:44 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:59:23 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:57:26 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


inflation is at 2%. is that too high for you?

jesus you guys are stupid


It's amazing what you can do when you steal enough money from the future
generations!


as opposed to wall street who stole it last year?

you kinda forgot that one, didn't you?



hk April 11th 10 11:46 PM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 4/11/10 6:43 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:07:27 -0600,
wrote:




bpuharic is beyond hope, just a envious slug. Rich are bad and he is
angry because he needs a bailout that isn't coming.


IOW i'm a typical working slob, which is why he despises me.


Neither canuck nor snottyscotty have held actual jobs in many years,
probably for the same reasons.

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bpuharic April 12th 10 12:08 AM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:46:04 -0400, hk
wrote:

On 4/11/10 6:43 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:07:27 -0600,
wrote:




bpuharic is beyond hope, just a envious slug. Rich are bad and he is
angry because he needs a bailout that isn't coming.


IOW i'm a typical working slob, which is why he despises me.


Neither canuck nor snottyscotty have held actual jobs in many years,
probably for the same reasons.


they think of themselves as part of the aristocracy. they think we're
fortunate to be able to talk with them.

nom=de=plume April 12th 10 12:53 AM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
"hk" wrote in message
m...
On 4/11/10 6:31 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:46:30 -0600,
wrote:



Not at all. Nothing wrong with the economic expansion at all. It was
the debt that was mismanaged


and yet you love george bush...the rich white frat boy who got us into
this mess, and hate obama, the black guy who's getting us out of it

any more proof needed that you hate obama only 'cuz he's black?


. Giving loans below risk/reward costs to
people who could not afford them. Created a bubble of cheap underpriced
defunct debt.


well, no. what caused it was rich guys inventing new 'financial
instruments' like collateralized debt obligations, with no linkage to
tangible assets, who sold these alice in wonderland time bombs. THAT'S
what caused the collapse


Instead of bitching about the rich, whining about BS and following Obama
like a deciple, you should sit down and think it through and you will
realize Obamas lips mater not a damn.


and now he bitches about obama....no solutions...just bitching about
the black guy in the white house.



The righties don't have any solutions, other than trickle down.

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I have a solution for them.... diapers.


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Canuck57[_9_] April 12th 10 01:02 AM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 11/04/2010 4:27 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:50:30 -0600,
wrote:



Well, at least I don't worship Obama at the price of freedom.


no, you worship wall street.


Yep, the freedom is wonderful, right click sell and a problem child is
dealt with.

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Canuck57[_9_] April 12th 10 01:04 AM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 11/04/2010 4:31 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:46:30 -0600,
wrote:



Not at all. Nothing wrong with the economic expansion at all. It was
the debt that was mismanaged


and yet you love george bush...the rich white frat boy who got us into
this mess, and hate obama, the black guy who's getting us out of it

any more proof needed that you hate obama only 'cuz he's black?


. Giving loans below risk/reward costs to
people who could not afford them. Created a bubble of cheap underpriced
defunct debt.


well, no. what caused it was rich guys inventing new 'financial
instruments' like collateralized debt obligations, with no linkage to
tangible assets, who sold these alice in wonderland time bombs. THAT'S
what caused the collapse


Instead of bitching about the rich, whining about BS and following Obama
like a deciple, you should sit down and think it through and you will
realize Obamas lips mater not a damn.


and now he bitches about obama....no solutions...just bitching about
the black guy in the white house.


Yep, Obama has no solutions as it still goes on.

Just a debt spender.
--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.

Canuck57[_9_] April 12th 10 01:05 AM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 11/04/2010 4:40 PM, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 6:31 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:46:30 -0600,
wrote:



Not at all. Nothing wrong with the economic expansion at all. It was
the debt that was mismanaged


and yet you love george bush...the rich white frat boy who got us into
this mess, and hate obama, the black guy who's getting us out of it

any more proof needed that you hate obama only 'cuz he's black?


. Giving loans below risk/reward costs to
people who could not afford them. Created a bubble of cheap underpriced
defunct debt.


well, no. what caused it was rich guys inventing new 'financial
instruments' like collateralized debt obligations, with no linkage to
tangible assets, who sold these alice in wonderland time bombs. THAT'S
what caused the collapse


Instead of bitching about the rich, whining about BS and following Obama
like a deciple, you should sit down and think it through and you will
realize Obamas lips mater not a damn.


and now he bitches about obama....no solutions...just bitching about
the black guy in the white house.



The righties don't have any solutions, other than trickle down.


I do, get off your ass and earn it. Nothing to stop you from starting a
business even. Well, OK, your too lazy.


--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.

Canuck57[_9_] April 12th 10 01:10 AM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 11/04/2010 4:33 PM, bpuharic wrote:

Then it became, "miss a car payment, lose your house"


That hasn't changed in my lifetime. Crappy credit rating on the car
gets you a higher interest rate on the house and pay or loose it.

Fortunately the real estate bubble had already started, mostly to
cover all of those 125% equity loans.
In the 90s and 2000s when they took all of the rationality out of who
could borrow money and invented ridiculous instruments to get more
cash in the system (about $2 trillion of cash that never really
existed) the die was set. We will never really have a recovery until
we swallow that $2 trillion dollar turd. We just added to the debt and
put it on our kid's plate.


and what of collateralized debt obligations which ballooned from 1
trillion in 96 to 62 trillion in 2006.


Bad accounting. Corruption.

think that might have had something to do with the collapse


Yep. Far too much freaking debt. A nation of debtor welshers.

Pathetic you loser types. Did you lose your house? Car? Both?

--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.

Canuck57[_9_] April 12th 10 01:15 AM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 11/04/2010 4:43 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:07:27 -0600,
wrote:




bpuharic is beyond hope, just a envious slug. Rich are bad and he is
angry because he needs a bailout that isn't coming.


IOW i'm a typical working slob, which is why he despises me.


Hey, I am a working slob too. Difference is I show up at work. Another
is I probably don't need to work if I don't want to. Because unlike
other working slobs going into debt, I eliminatd debt in good times. So
when I got my RIF, I partied like an animal! You probably crapped your
pants. All because I manage money conservatively.

--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.

Canuck57[_9_] April 12th 10 01:17 AM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 11/04/2010 5:08 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:46:04 -0400,
wrote:

On 4/11/10 6:43 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:07:27 -0600,
wrote:




bpuharic is beyond hope, just a envious slug. Rich are bad and he is
angry because he needs a bailout that isn't coming.

IOW i'm a typical working slob, which is why he despises me.


Neither canuck nor snottyscotty have held actual jobs in many years,
probably for the same reasons.


they think of themselves as part of the aristocracy. they think we're
fortunate to be able to talk with them.


Yep. And wasting our time too on pathetic envious self rightious losers.

--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.

Canuck57[_9_] April 12th 10 01:22 AM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 11/04/2010 4:43 PM, bpuharic wrote:

Try to keep up. This is a topic about the recovery. This has been a
wall street recovery., We are still waiting for the trickle down you
seem to be so confident will happen..


there are a number of ways to manage trickle down. we can try reagan's
way, which said, give all the money to the rich and they'll pass some
to the middle class (they didn't), OR

we can tax them and pass along the money to the middle class in the
form of health insurance, etc.


Funny. I think you have dead peas for brain lobes. Here is how it will
really work.

Employers paying health care will drop it and tell people to get Obama
Care. But no raises, as times are tough. And that might be a good
employer as others will just fire your ass and offer a part time no
benefit contract position in lieu.

Next Obama is going to jack taxes. Being USA hasn't got a sales tax
like a VAT or GST, here it comes. Obama Tax.

Next income tax, need more. You are rich because you have a job.

Next thing Obamacare dumbs down the service levels. Bonesets, waiting
lines, just like UK and Canada.

Then you wake up and realize you screwed yourselves good.
--
The Liberal way, take no responsibility.

bpuharic April 12th 10 01:23 AM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:02:53 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/04/2010 4:27 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:50:30 -0600,
wrote:



Well, at least I don't worship Obama at the price of freedom.


no, you worship wall street.


Yep, the freedom is wonderful, right click sell and a problem child is
dealt with.


if only if it were as free as the fairy tales you believe say it is

bpuharic April 12th 10 01:25 AM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:04:44 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/04/2010 4:31 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:46:30 -0600,
wrote:


and now he bitches about obama....no solutions...just bitching about
the black guy in the white house.


Yep, Obama has no solutions as it still goes on.

Just a debt spender.


let's see

-the economy is expanding
-unemployment is dropping
-the market is up
-the dollar is up against foreign currencies

to the right, this is failure. after all,the middle class hasnt been
destroyed like they planned

bpuharic April 12th 10 01:27 AM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:10:55 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/04/2010 4:33 PM, bpuharic wrote:

Fortunately the real estate bubble had already started, mostly to
cover all of those 125% equity loans.
In the 90s and 2000s when they took all of the rationality out of who
could borrow money and invented ridiculous instruments to get more
cash in the system (about $2 trillion of cash that never really
existed) the die was set. We will never really have a recovery until
we swallow that $2 trillion dollar turd. We just added to the debt and
put it on our kid's plate.


and what of collateralized debt obligations which ballooned from 1
trillion in 96 to 62 trillion in 2006.


Bad accounting. Corruption


so it wasnt middle america's fault; it was wall street

thanks, i already knew that


think that might have had something to do with the collapse


Yep. Far too much freaking debt. A nation of debtor welshers.

Pathetic you loser types. Did you lose your house? Car? Both?


i dont work on wall street. sorry. im not one of your rich frat boy
buddies

bpuharic April 12th 10 01:28 AM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:15:29 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/04/2010 4:43 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:07:27 -0600,
wrote:




bpuharic is beyond hope, just a envious slug. Rich are bad and he is
angry because he needs a bailout that isn't coming.


IOW i'm a typical working slob, which is why he despises me.


Hey, I am a working slob too.\\\


then why do you hate yourself so much?



ifference is I show up at work. Another
is I probably don't need to work if I don't want to


a member of the worthless wall street aristocracy...

.. Because unlike
other working slobs going into debt, I eliminatd debt in good times. So
when I got my RIF, I partied like an animal! You probably crapped your
pants. All because I manage money conservatively.


see how he hates people who work for a living. typical of the right

bpuharic April 12th 10 01:31 AM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:22:13 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 11/04/2010 4:43 PM, bpuharic wrote:

Try to keep up. This is a topic about the recovery. This has been a
wall street recovery., We are still waiting for the trickle down you
seem to be so confident will happen..


there are a number of ways to manage trickle down. we can try reagan's
way, which said, give all the money to the rich and they'll pass some
to the middle class (they didn't), OR

we can tax them and pass along the money to the middle class in the
form of health insurance, etc.


Funny. I think you have dead peas for brain lobes. Here is how it will
really work.

Employers paying health care will drop it and tell people to get Obama
Care.


gee if this is the case why havent countries with socialized medicine
done worse?

But no raises, as times are tough. And that might be a good
employer as others will just fire your ass and offer a part time no
benefit contract position in lieu.


gee. millions have had this happen already under bush's depression


Next Obama is going to jack taxes. Being USA hasn't got a sales tax
like a VAT or GST, here it comes. Obama Tax.


gee. he wants to reduce bush's debt. yet you object


Next income tax, need more. You are rich because you have a job.


gee. he's only taxing those who made out in the last 10 years. teh
right ignores the fact the middle class hasnt had a pay increase in 10
years


Next thing Obamacare dumbs down the service levels. Bonesets, waiting
lines, just like UK and Canada.


guess how long people who dont HAVE health insurance have to wait?


Then you wake up and realize you screwed yourselves good


the people who elected bush screwed us.

4400 dead in iraq

a trillion ****ed away in the war

yet you love him because he's a rich white guy

hk April 12th 10 02:23 AM

far right winger admits economy is growing rapidly
 
On 4/11/10 8:02 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 11/04/2010 4:27 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 08:50:30 -0600,
wrote:



Well, at least I don't worship Obama at the price of freedom.


no, you worship wall street.


Yep, the freedom is wonderful, right click sell and a problem child is
dealt with.



Wall Street...the criminal element...figures.

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