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Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
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... On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:27:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: You're telling me that a small diff in drag is going to be noticed?? So, now the boat can go 52.3 mph instead of 55. I think most people wouldn't notice. -- Nom=de=Plume No I am saying that is a big drag and it will be more than noticed. It will seriously affect fuel mileage and performance. There is a very good reason why props are the way they are, particularly the trailing edge of the blade, where this swimmer hit. Even a very blunt work boat prop has a sharp trailing edge. Otherwise it cavitates. This guy is bragging about holes in the prop that make it cavitate more. This isn't a prop, it is a bubble machine. See thunder's post. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"thunder" wrote in message
t... On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:49:25 -0400, Larry wrote: Amazing. Two morons and a big settlement. I hope they can appeal it. It's worse than the lady who spilled coffee on her lap and sued because it was hot. Yeah, well there is hot, and then there is what McDonald's was selling. Eight days in hospital, with skin grafts, hot. http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm It's a pretty interesting case. It was hyped in the media as some major miscarriage of justice, when actually McDs had had many complaints. They did nothing. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
... On Apr 10, 9:19 pm, Frogwatch wrote: On Apr 10, 9:03 pm, thunder wrote: On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:49:25 -0400, Larry wrote: Amazing. Two morons and a big settlement. I hope they can appeal it. It's worse than the lady who spilled coffee on her lap and sued because it was hot. Yeah, well there is hot, and then there is what McDonald's was selling. Eight days in hospital, with skin grafts, hot. http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm The posts by HK and Nom in this thread constitute proof that neither does any boating. Next, they (he) will be agreeing that boats need a warning sticker saying that water is a drowning hazard. Next, you'll learn how to swim in your bathtub. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
... "thunder" wrote in message t... On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:49:25 -0400, Larry wrote: Amazing. Two morons and a big settlement. I hope they can appeal it. It's worse than the lady who spilled coffee on her lap and sued because it was hot. Yeah, well there is hot, and then there is what McDonald's was selling. Eight days in hospital, with skin grafts, hot. http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm When you are 70 years old, and a coffee drinker, you should have learned coffee is hot. And not be so stupid as to take off the protective lid and place the cup in your crotch as your son drives over the curb leaving McD's. And the $24million was reduced to about 1.4 million. After medical and legal costs, I bet she had enough to buy a senior coffee at McD's. We're all eternally grateful that you're not in the legal profession, a judge, or qualified to sit on a jury. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
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... On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:18:07 -0700, "Bill McKee" wrote: Drinking coffee does not require any concentration What??? It certainly ties up one hand and you have to be careful not to spill it. Evasive maneuvers are virtually impossible with a hot cup of coffee in your hand. The other one is fooling with a GPS or that computer that replaced the radio. Mr. MaGoo uses his feet. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
On 4/11/10 3:03 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ... On Apr 10, 9:19 pm, wrote: On Apr 10, 9:03 pm, wrote: On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:49:25 -0400, Larry wrote: Amazing. Two morons and a big settlement. I hope they can appeal it. It's worse than the lady who spilled coffee on her lap and sued because it was hot. Yeah, well there is hot, and then there is what McDonald's was selling. Eight days in hospital, with skin grafts, hot. http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm The posts by HK and Nom in this thread constitute proof that neither does any boating. Next, they (he) will be agreeing that boats need a warning sticker saying that water is a drowning hazard. Next, you'll learn how to swim in your bathtub. I'll bet his bathtub leaks and...he's got a radio plugged into a wall outlet next to the tub. Froggy saves money for short, failure-plagued boat trips by doing his own maintenance...or not doing doing it. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:18:07 -0700, "Bill McKee" wrote: Drinking coffee does not require any concentration What??? It certainly ties up one hand and you have to be careful not to spill it. Evasive maneuvers are virtually impossible with a hot cup of coffee in your hand. The other one is fooling with a GPS or that computer that replaced the radio. Mr. MaGoo uses his feet. -- Nom=de=Plume Better than you who probably uses their belly. |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "hk" wrote in message m... On 4/10/10 6:33 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 10, 5:11 pm, wrote: On 10/04/2010 3:56 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 10, 4:47 pm, wrote: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...D9ETMVA02.html So now what, will this become a safety standard of the industry that props should have guards? A guy jumped in the water behind a boat with a running motor. The driver of the boat puts the boat in reverse, and hits the guy with the prop. The boat manufacturer has to pay. That's so screwed up it's almost unbelievable. Almost. Hmm... so a simple device, known to prevent such accidents is intentionally not used, someone is maimed, but the boat manufacturer has no liability? I guess a jury disagreed. I guess that's communism run amok. Does not mater. The husband basically ran this wench over: http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/...d-boat-propell... Not sure if it is the same case as the dallas link is broken. But what a darwin move. Even if it had a guard, you are so darwinian stupid to do this as a captain or as a swimmer. 100% captians fault. And judge should just say so and let OMC sue the **** out of him for recovery costs. Take their home even and even go for the plaintifs lawyer for taking such a stupid case. -- Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money. "The jury found Brunswick 66 percent liable for the injury, with Brochtrup and the boat's driver responsible for the rest. Because the driver was not part of the lawsuit, he will not have to pay. " So the pilot was at fault by 33 % but seeing he's not in the suit, be doesnt' have to pay. uh-huh... How much do you think the owners/operators of the mine that killed 29 this week should have to pay in damages to the families of the dead? How much should the mine workers union pay the families for not protecting the workers? I believe it was a non-union mine. -- Nom=de=Plume They should have stopped the mine from working then. |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "thunder" wrote in message t... On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:49:25 -0400, Larry wrote: Amazing. Two morons and a big settlement. I hope they can appeal it. It's worse than the lady who spilled coffee on her lap and sued because it was hot. Yeah, well there is hot, and then there is what McDonald's was selling. Eight days in hospital, with skin grafts, hot. http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm When you are 70 years old, and a coffee drinker, you should have learned coffee is hot. And not be so stupid as to take off the protective lid and place the cup in your crotch as your son drives over the curb leaving McD's. And the $24million was reduced to about 1.4 million. After medical and legal costs, I bet she had enough to buy a senior coffee at McD's. We're all eternally grateful that you're not in the legal profession, a judge, or qualified to sit on a jury. -- Nom=de=Plume Unlike you, I am qualified to sit on a jury, and have a couple times. |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "thunder" wrote in message t... On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:49:25 -0400, Larry wrote: Amazing. Two morons and a big settlement. I hope they can appeal it. It's worse than the lady who spilled coffee on her lap and sued because it was hot. Yeah, well there is hot, and then there is what McDonald's was selling. Eight days in hospital, with skin grafts, hot. http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm When you are 70 years old, and a coffee drinker, you should have learned coffee is hot. And not be so stupid as to take off the protective lid and place the cup in your crotch as your son drives over the curb leaving McD's. And the $24million was reduced to about 1.4 million. After medical and legal costs, I bet she had enough to buy a senior coffee at McD's. Probably more careful with that second cup. |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "hk" wrote in message m... On 4/10/10 6:33 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 10, 5:11 pm, wrote: On 10/04/2010 3:56 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 10, 4:47 pm, wrote: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...D9ETMVA02.html So now what, will this become a safety standard of the industry that props should have guards? A guy jumped in the water behind a boat with a running motor. The driver of the boat puts the boat in reverse, and hits the guy with the prop. The boat manufacturer has to pay. That's so screwed up it's almost unbelievable. Almost. Hmm... so a simple device, known to prevent such accidents is intentionally not used, someone is maimed, but the boat manufacturer has no liability? I guess a jury disagreed. I guess that's communism run amok. Does not mater. The husband basically ran this wench over: http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/...d-boat-propell... Not sure if it is the same case as the dallas link is broken. But what a darwin move. Even if it had a guard, you are so darwinian stupid to do this as a captain or as a swimmer. 100% captians fault. And judge should just say so and let OMC sue the **** out of him for recovery costs. Take their home even and even go for the plaintifs lawyer for taking such a stupid case. -- Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money. "The jury found Brunswick 66 percent liable for the injury, with Brochtrup and the boat's driver responsible for the rest. Because the driver was not part of the lawsuit, he will not have to pay. " So the pilot was at fault by 33 % but seeing he's not in the suit, be doesnt' have to pay. uh-huh... How much do you think the owners/operators of the mine that killed 29 this week should have to pay in damages to the families of the dead? How much should the mine workers union pay the families for not protecting the workers? I believe it was a non-union mine. -- Nom=de=Plume They should have stopped the mine from working then. They?? Who's they? Do you understand the concept of non-union? No. Are you an idiot? Yes. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
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... On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:58:43 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: That's true, but the only other choice would be to move somewhere else, as it's pretty much a single-industry area True but if the carbon tax people get their way, these people are going to be moving anyway. ?? Carbon tax people? Do they live in Malfoy Manner? -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
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... On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 12:01:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: No I am saying that is a big drag and it will be more than noticed. It will seriously affect fuel mileage and performance. There is a very good reason why props are the way they are, particularly the trailing edge of the blade, where this swimmer hit. Even a very blunt work boat prop has a sharp trailing edge. Otherwise it cavitates. This guy is bragging about holes in the prop that make it cavitate more. This isn't a prop, it is a bubble machine. See thunder's post. I saw Thunder's post and he is guessing too. Somebody show me a side by side test with a regular cheap aluminum prop (not even some special high performance SS) and I will be convinced. My bet, at least a 10% decrease in performance on a barge like mine and probably more like 25% a performance boat. There is no accident props are made like they are. This is a century old technology and they improve them every year, basically by doing the opposite of what this guy is doing. (thinner blades, sharper edges) That is why people spend the money for stainless steel. It is hard enough to hold that edge. Guys spend $50-100 bucks to get them cleaned up when they get tiny dings in them. I am not even convinced that if you actually hit someone in the water it would make that much difference. It is a lot easier to knock the arm out of the way, from the side, in free air. Would you try it? None of this would affect going straight into the prop. But, you're not guessing... no way. You have the FACTS. Sure. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:18:07 -0700, "Bill McKee" wrote: Drinking coffee does not require any concentration What??? It certainly ties up one hand and you have to be careful not to spill it. Evasive maneuvers are virtually impossible with a hot cup of coffee in your hand. The other one is fooling with a GPS or that computer that replaced the radio. Mr. MaGoo uses his feet. -- Nom=de=Plume Better than you who probably uses their belly. I think you're going to have to explain how someone uses a belly to "hold" a cup of coffee. I could see trying to balance a cup of coffee that way, but even my stomach muscles aren't developed enough to hold the cup. Perhaps you can get Arnold to hold it that way? Try again Mr. MaGoo! -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
On 4/11/10 7:47 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message m... On 4/10/10 6:33 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 10, 5:11 pm, wrote: On 10/04/2010 3:56 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 10, 4:47 pm, wrote: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...D9ETMVA02.html So now what, will this become a safety standard of the industry that props should have guards? A guy jumped in the water behind a boat with a running motor. The driver of the boat puts the boat in reverse, and hits the guy with the prop. The boat manufacturer has to pay. That's so screwed up it's almost unbelievable. Almost. Hmm... so a simple device, known to prevent such accidents is intentionally not used, someone is maimed, but the boat manufacturer has no liability? I guess a jury disagreed. I guess that's communism run amok. Does not mater. The husband basically ran this wench over: http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/...d-boat-propell... Not sure if it is the same case as the dallas link is broken. But what a darwin move. Even if it had a guard, you are so darwinian stupid to do this as a captain or as a swimmer. 100% captians fault. And judge should just say so and let OMC sue the **** out of him for recovery costs. Take their home even and even go for the plaintifs lawyer for taking such a stupid case. -- Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money. "The jury found Brunswick 66 percent liable for the injury, with Brochtrup and the boat's driver responsible for the rest. Because the driver was not part of the lawsuit, he will not have to pay. " So the pilot was at fault by 33 % but seeing he's not in the suit, be doesnt' have to pay. uh-huh... How much do you think the owners/operators of the mine that killed 29 this week should have to pay in damages to the families of the dead? How much should the mine workers union pay the families for not protecting the workers? I believe it was a non-union mine. -- Nom=de=Plume They should have stopped the mine from working then. They?? Who's they? Do you understand the concept of non-union? No. Are you an idiot? Yes. I contemplated that response of Bilious Bill's for a minute or so, and then burst into laughter. It ranks among the most moronic posts ever made here. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "thunder" wrote in message t... On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:49:25 -0400, Larry wrote: Amazing. Two morons and a big settlement. I hope they can appeal it. It's worse than the lady who spilled coffee on her lap and sued because it was hot. Yeah, well there is hot, and then there is what McDonald's was selling. Eight days in hospital, with skin grafts, hot. http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm When you are 70 years old, and a coffee drinker, you should have learned coffee is hot. And not be so stupid as to take off the protective lid and place the cup in your crotch as your son drives over the curb leaving McD's. And the $24million was reduced to about 1.4 million. After medical and legal costs, I bet she had enough to buy a senior coffee at McD's. We're all eternally grateful that you're not in the legal profession, a judge, or qualified to sit on a jury. -- Nom=de=Plume Unlike you, I am qualified to sit on a jury, and have a couple times. Unlike me? There's no bar for an attorney to sit on a jury. Feel free to prove otherwise. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
On 4/11/10 7:52 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message ... wrote in message t... On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:49:25 -0400, Larry wrote: Amazing. Two morons and a big settlement. I hope they can appeal it. It's worse than the lady who spilled coffee on her lap and sued because it was hot. Yeah, well there is hot, and then there is what McDonald's was selling. Eight days in hospital, with skin grafts, hot. http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm When you are 70 years old, and a coffee drinker, you should have learned coffee is hot. And not be so stupid as to take off the protective lid and place the cup in your crotch as your son drives over the curb leaving McD's. And the $24million was reduced to about 1.4 million. After medical and legal costs, I bet she had enough to buy a senior coffee at McD's. We're all eternally grateful that you're not in the legal profession, a judge, or qualified to sit on a jury. -- Nom=de=Plume Unlike you, I am qualified to sit on a jury, and have a couple times. Unlike me? There's no bar for an attorney to sit on a jury. Feel free to prove otherwise. What Bilious is saying here is that if you put a mirror in front of his mouth, he might be able to fog it...and thus qualify for jury duty. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"hk" wrote in message
m... On 4/11/10 7:47 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message m... On 4/10/10 6:33 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 10, 5:11 pm, wrote: On 10/04/2010 3:56 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 10, 4:47 pm, wrote: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...D9ETMVA02.html So now what, will this become a safety standard of the industry that props should have guards? A guy jumped in the water behind a boat with a running motor. The driver of the boat puts the boat in reverse, and hits the guy with the prop. The boat manufacturer has to pay. That's so screwed up it's almost unbelievable. Almost. Hmm... so a simple device, known to prevent such accidents is intentionally not used, someone is maimed, but the boat manufacturer has no liability? I guess a jury disagreed. I guess that's communism run amok. Does not mater. The husband basically ran this wench over: http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/...d-boat-propell... Not sure if it is the same case as the dallas link is broken. But what a darwin move. Even if it had a guard, you are so darwinian stupid to do this as a captain or as a swimmer. 100% captians fault. And judge should just say so and let OMC sue the **** out of him for recovery costs. Take their home even and even go for the plaintifs lawyer for taking such a stupid case. -- Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money. "The jury found Brunswick 66 percent liable for the injury, with Brochtrup and the boat's driver responsible for the rest. Because the driver was not part of the lawsuit, he will not have to pay. " So the pilot was at fault by 33 % but seeing he's not in the suit, be doesnt' have to pay. uh-huh... How much do you think the owners/operators of the mine that killed 29 this week should have to pay in damages to the families of the dead? How much should the mine workers union pay the families for not protecting the workers? I believe it was a non-union mine. -- Nom=de=Plume They should have stopped the mine from working then. They?? Who's they? Do you understand the concept of non-union? No. Are you an idiot? Yes. I contemplated that response of Bilious Bill's for a minute or so, and then burst into laughter. It ranks among the most moronic posts ever made here. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym It's always "they" - it's never "I" when it comes to these bozos. "They" are out to get me. "They" are evil. "They" should do something. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
On 10/04/2010 7:31 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message ... On 10/04/2010 4:10 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:47:53 -0700 (PDT), wrote: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...D9ETMVA02.html So now what, will this become a safety standard of the industry that props should have guards? The blame is partly with the insurance industry. They have frequently taken the short sighted view that it is cheaper to settle some of these claims than it is to fight them. That's probably true for any one case but the long term effect is to set expensive precedents. Yep. But also begets higher rates and more profit. Mystifies me how they could lose this case. Even dumb as nails jury can't be this stupid. Brunswick shoul counter sue the driver and the swimer. Make their lives hell. -- The Liberal way, take no responsibility. And now, straight from Rush/Beck's sitcom, we have nucknuck who doesn't like the jury system. I think competance has something to do with it. Minimum reading skills, college or university... Would not want to be a innocent defendant facing a jury that could only think of fried chicken and your skin color (either way). -- The Liberal way, take no responsibility. |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"hk" wrote in message
m... On 4/11/10 7:52 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message ... wrote in message t... On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:49:25 -0400, Larry wrote: Amazing. Two morons and a big settlement. I hope they can appeal it. It's worse than the lady who spilled coffee on her lap and sued because it was hot. Yeah, well there is hot, and then there is what McDonald's was selling. Eight days in hospital, with skin grafts, hot. http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm When you are 70 years old, and a coffee drinker, you should have learned coffee is hot. And not be so stupid as to take off the protective lid and place the cup in your crotch as your son drives over the curb leaving McD's. And the $24million was reduced to about 1.4 million. After medical and legal costs, I bet she had enough to buy a senior coffee at McD's. We're all eternally grateful that you're not in the legal profession, a judge, or qualified to sit on a jury. -- Nom=de=Plume Unlike you, I am qualified to sit on a jury, and have a couple times. Unlike me? There's no bar for an attorney to sit on a jury. Feel free to prove otherwise. What Bilious is saying here is that if you put a mirror in front of his mouth, he might be able to fog it...and thus qualify for jury duty. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym I suspect that if he were called for jury duty and the case involved anything during the voir dire about his ability to be objective, say because the defendent was a minority, he would get booted. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
On Apr 11, 7:48*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:58:43 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: That's true, but the only other choice would be to move somewhere else, as it's pretty much a single-industry area True but if the carbon tax people get their way, these people are going to be moving anyway. ?? Carbon tax people? Do they live in Malfoy Manner? That'd be Malfoy Manor, and you shouldn't try to act stupid, as if you don't know what he means. You know what he means, and you don't have to try. You're very convincing. I'm done with you again, until I'm not. |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "thunder" wrote in message t... On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:49:25 -0400, Larry wrote: Amazing. Two morons and a big settlement. I hope they can appeal it. It's worse than the lady who spilled coffee on her lap and sued because it was hot. Yeah, well there is hot, and then there is what McDonald's was selling. Eight days in hospital, with skin grafts, hot. http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm When you are 70 years old, and a coffee drinker, you should have learned coffee is hot. And not be so stupid as to take off the protective lid and place the cup in your crotch as your son drives over the curb leaving McD's. And the $24million was reduced to about 1.4 million. After medical and legal costs, I bet she had enough to buy a senior coffee at McD's. We're all eternally grateful that you're not in the legal profession, a judge, or qualified to sit on a jury. -- Nom=de=Plume Unlike you, I am qualified to sit on a jury, and have a couple times. Unlike me? There's no bar for an attorney to sit on a jury. Feel free to prove otherwise. -- Nom=de=Plume Your attitude would get the defense to toss you. |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "hk" wrote in message m... On 4/11/10 7:52 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message ... wrote in message t... On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:49:25 -0400, Larry wrote: Amazing. Two morons and a big settlement. I hope they can appeal it. It's worse than the lady who spilled coffee on her lap and sued because it was hot. Yeah, well there is hot, and then there is what McDonald's was selling. Eight days in hospital, with skin grafts, hot. http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm When you are 70 years old, and a coffee drinker, you should have learned coffee is hot. And not be so stupid as to take off the protective lid and place the cup in your crotch as your son drives over the curb leaving McD's. And the $24million was reduced to about 1.4 million. After medical and legal costs, I bet she had enough to buy a senior coffee at McD's. We're all eternally grateful that you're not in the legal profession, a judge, or qualified to sit on a jury. -- Nom=de=Plume Unlike you, I am qualified to sit on a jury, and have a couple times. Unlike me? There's no bar for an attorney to sit on a jury. Feel free to prove otherwise. What Bilious is saying here is that if you put a mirror in front of his mouth, he might be able to fog it...and thus qualify for jury duty. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym I suspect that if he were called for jury duty and the case involved anything during the voir dire about his ability to be objective, say because the defendent was a minority, he would get booted. -- Nom=de=Plume So you are racist also. Have served on armed robbery case. Minority. Have served on a couple civil cases, one was minority. Hell, the minority group got screwed by the attorney's. Both sides. Was a legal malpractice case. The Attorneys settled without the plaintiff. A minority church group. Screwed originally by their attorney giving bad advice, and then by the next attorney making a deal with the former attorney. Been called for 3 murder 1 cases. Defense excused me because I figured that those using a gun in a crime should spend a long time in jail, ala Richmond, VA. Black judge liked me and I liked him. As to racism. I figure you and Harry never associate with minorities in a friendly enviroment. |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:18:07 -0700, "Bill McKee" wrote: Drinking coffee does not require any concentration What??? It certainly ties up one hand and you have to be careful not to spill it. Evasive maneuvers are virtually impossible with a hot cup of coffee in your hand. The other one is fooling with a GPS or that computer that replaced the radio. Mr. MaGoo uses his feet. -- Nom=de=Plume Better than you who probably uses their belly. I think you're going to have to explain how someone uses a belly to "hold" a cup of coffee. I could see trying to balance a cup of coffee that way, but even my stomach muscles aren't developed enough to hold the cup. Perhaps you can get Arnold to hold it that way? Try again Mr. MaGoo! -- Nom=de=Plume Nope, you hold the coffee and steer with your belly. Probably sticks out and hits the wheel anyway. |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"Jack" wrote in message
... On Apr 11, 7:48 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:58:43 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: That's true, but the only other choice would be to move somewhere else, as it's pretty much a single-industry area True but if the carbon tax people get their way, these people are going to be moving anyway. ?? Carbon tax people? Do they live in Malfoy Manner? That'd be Malfoy Manor, and you shouldn't try to act stupid, as if you don't know what he means. You know what he means, and you don't have to try. You're very convincing. I'm done with you again, until I'm not. Ok Harry Potter. You win. You're right. I'm very convincing. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
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... On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:49:34 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: I saw Thunder's post and he is guessing too. Somebody show me a side by side test with a regular cheap aluminum prop (not even some special high performance SS) and I will be convinced. My bet, at least a 10% decrease in performance on a barge like mine and probably more like 25% a performance boat. There is no accident props are made like they are. This is a century old technology and they improve them every year, basically by doing the opposite of what this guy is doing. (thinner blades, sharper edges) That is why people spend the money for stainless steel. It is hard enough to hold that edge. Guys spend $50-100 bucks to get them cleaned up when they get tiny dings in them. I am not even convinced that if you actually hit someone in the water it would make that much difference. It is a lot easier to knock the arm out of the way, from the side, in free air. Would you try it? None of this would affect going straight into the prop. But, you're not guessing... no way. You have the FACTS. Sure. I am not guessing about why props are made the way they are or the fact that things don't move out of the way as easy in water as they do in air. We are really only guessing about how well you would survive a real world strike from this prop in the water. The inventor sure isn't demonstrating that or even presenting some kind of anecdotal evidence. I was discussing the difference in performance. I don't think anyone would do well getting hit by a propeller. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"Canuck57" wrote in message
... On 10/04/2010 7:31 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On 10/04/2010 4:10 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:47:53 -0700 (PDT), wrote: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...D9ETMVA02.html So now what, will this become a safety standard of the industry that props should have guards? The blame is partly with the insurance industry. They have frequently taken the short sighted view that it is cheaper to settle some of these claims than it is to fight them. That's probably true for any one case but the long term effect is to set expensive precedents. Yep. But also begets higher rates and more profit. Mystifies me how they could lose this case. Even dumb as nails jury can't be this stupid. Brunswick shoul counter sue the driver and the swimer. Make their lives hell. -- The Liberal way, take no responsibility. And now, straight from Rush/Beck's sitcom, we have nucknuck who doesn't like the jury system. I think competance has something to do with it. Minimum reading skills, college or university... Would not want to be a innocent defendant facing a jury that could only think of fried chicken and your skin color (either way). -- The Liberal way, take no responsibility. Why don't we have a literacy test at the polling place. How about a poll tax to ensure they are true capitalists. Or, how about you can only vote if you're a landowner. I guess all the voters who elected Mr. Obama were only thinking about his skin color (the black voters), since the Republican party has made such great strides in race relations of late. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 10:18:07 -0700, "Bill McKee" wrote: Drinking coffee does not require any concentration What??? It certainly ties up one hand and you have to be careful not to spill it. Evasive maneuvers are virtually impossible with a hot cup of coffee in your hand. The other one is fooling with a GPS or that computer that replaced the radio. Mr. MaGoo uses his feet. -- Nom=de=Plume Better than you who probably uses their belly. I think you're going to have to explain how someone uses a belly to "hold" a cup of coffee. I could see trying to balance a cup of coffee that way, but even my stomach muscles aren't developed enough to hold the cup. Perhaps you can get Arnold to hold it that way? Try again Mr. MaGoo! -- Nom=de=Plume Nope, you hold the coffee and steer with your belly. Probably sticks out and hits the wheel anyway. Ah... well, when you weight 500lbs and have buckteeth like me, I guess I can see your point... the one on the top of your head... the one that sticks through the bald spot. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
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... On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:48:46 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: True but if the carbon tax people get their way, these people are going to be moving anyway. ?? Carbon tax people? Do they live in Malfoy Manner? We would be talking about H.R. 2454 (the cap and tax bill) that just passed the house and is sitting in the senate as we speak. There are lots of things in there that will get people who think the government is out of control mad. Coal miners will be out of work fairly quickly, taxed out of the market. but there is also an interesting thing floating around the internet. You will have to get an energy star label for your house before you can sell or refinance it (inspections and 30 more pages of bureaucracy I haven't waded through yet) The internet story is you can't sell your house without being certified but I don't see that language yet If you want some light reading take a peek http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...4pcs. txt.pdf I couldn't get the link to work... I seriously doubt one's home would be required to have an energy star label like my fridge does. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
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... On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:01:54 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: I suspect that if he were called for jury duty and the case involved anything during the voir dire about his ability to be objective, I have never been called for a criminal trial but one time I got called for a malpractice case. They asked me how I felt about torts. I was under oath, what else could I say. I said "Lawyers doctors and Insurance Companies are a financial perpetual motion machine that raises the cost of everything we buy and restricts everything we do." I was out in the car a few minutes later. There was a motion to pull in a new jury pool as I was leaving. It probably had to do with the number of people either nodding or laughing and clapping. I haven't been called back. Thanks for not lying. Another way to get out of jury duty is to compliment one or the other attorneys about their clothes, e.g., a tie. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "hk" wrote in message m... On 4/11/10 7:52 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message ... wrote in message t... On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:49:25 -0400, Larry wrote: Amazing. Two morons and a big settlement. I hope they can appeal it. It's worse than the lady who spilled coffee on her lap and sued because it was hot. Yeah, well there is hot, and then there is what McDonald's was selling. Eight days in hospital, with skin grafts, hot. http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm When you are 70 years old, and a coffee drinker, you should have learned coffee is hot. And not be so stupid as to take off the protective lid and place the cup in your crotch as your son drives over the curb leaving McD's. And the $24million was reduced to about 1.4 million. After medical and legal costs, I bet she had enough to buy a senior coffee at McD's. We're all eternally grateful that you're not in the legal profession, a judge, or qualified to sit on a jury. -- Nom=de=Plume Unlike you, I am qualified to sit on a jury, and have a couple times. Unlike me? There's no bar for an attorney to sit on a jury. Feel free to prove otherwise. What Bilious is saying here is that if you put a mirror in front of his mouth, he might be able to fog it...and thus qualify for jury duty. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym I suspect that if he were called for jury duty and the case involved anything during the voir dire about his ability to be objective, say because the defendent was a minority, he would get booted. -- Nom=de=Plume So you are racist also. Have served on armed robbery case. Minority. Have served on a couple civil cases, one was minority. Hell, the minority group got screwed by the attorney's. Both sides. Was a legal malpractice case. The Attorneys settled without the plaintiff. A minority church group. Screwed originally by their attorney giving bad advice, and then by the next attorney making a deal with the former attorney. Been called for 3 murder 1 cases. Defense excused me because I figured that those using a gun in a crime should spend a long time in jail, ala Richmond, VA. Black judge liked me and I liked him. As to racism. I figure you and Harry never associate with minorities in a friendly enviroment. Uh huh... you got that from what exactly? The fact that you're a racist? It doesn't work that way Mr. McGoo. Just because you are doesn't mean everyone else is. The black judge liked you? How do you know this? Did he invite you out for a drink? Maybe he *did* like you. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "thunder" wrote in message t... On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 21:49:25 -0400, Larry wrote: Amazing. Two morons and a big settlement. I hope they can appeal it. It's worse than the lady who spilled coffee on her lap and sued because it was hot. Yeah, well there is hot, and then there is what McDonald's was selling. Eight days in hospital, with skin grafts, hot. http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm When you are 70 years old, and a coffee drinker, you should have learned coffee is hot. And not be so stupid as to take off the protective lid and place the cup in your crotch as your son drives over the curb leaving McD's. And the $24million was reduced to about 1.4 million. After medical and legal costs, I bet she had enough to buy a senior coffee at McD's. We're all eternally grateful that you're not in the legal profession, a judge, or qualified to sit on a jury. -- Nom=de=Plume Unlike you, I am qualified to sit on a jury, and have a couple times. Unlike me? There's no bar for an attorney to sit on a jury. Feel free to prove otherwise. -- Nom=de=Plume Your attitude would get the defense to toss you. Uh huh... wow. I must have really hit a nerve. I'm betting you're pretty homophobic also. Why don't you tell us about all your gay friends. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
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... On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 22:54:00 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:49:34 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: I saw Thunder's post and he is guessing too. Somebody show me a side by side test with a regular cheap aluminum prop (not even some special high performance SS) and I will be convinced. My bet, at least a 10% decrease in performance on a barge like mine and probably more like 25% a performance boat. There is no accident props are made like they are. This is a century old technology and they improve them every year, basically by doing the opposite of what this guy is doing. (thinner blades, sharper edges) That is why people spend the money for stainless steel. It is hard enough to hold that edge. Guys spend $50-100 bucks to get them cleaned up when they get tiny dings in them. I am not even convinced that if you actually hit someone in the water it would make that much difference. It is a lot easier to knock the arm out of the way, from the side, in free air. Would you try it? None of this would affect going straight into the prop. But, you're not guessing... no way. You have the FACTS. Sure. I am not guessing about why props are made the way they are or the fact that things don't move out of the way as easy in water as they do in air. We are really only guessing about how well you would survive a real world strike from this prop in the water. The inventor sure isn't demonstrating that or even presenting some kind of anecdotal evidence. I was discussing the difference in performance. I don't think anyone would do well getting hit by a propeller. Then what is the point? That a propeller guard doesn't significantly impact performance. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
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... On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 22:29:14 -0700, "Bill McKee" wrote: Nope, you hold the coffee and steer with your belly. Probably sticks out and hits the wheel anyway. Come on Bill we all know you steer with your knee. We know it's not something else also. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
On Apr 11, 10:58*am, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 10:15 AM, Loogypicker wrote: On Apr 10, 6:10 pm, *wrote: On 4/10/10 5:16 PM, Jack wrote: On Apr 10, 4:47 pm, * *wrote: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...D9ETMVA02.html So now what, will this become a safety standard of the industry that props should have guards? A guy jumped in the water behind a boat with a running motor. *The driver of the boat puts the boat in reverse, and hits the guy with the prop. The boat manufacturer has to pay. That's so screwed up it's almost unbelievable. *Almost. A president and his vice president lie about WMDs, and tens of thousands of people paid the price with their lives and pocketbooks. That's so screwed up it is unbelievable. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym You act like a ****ing little boy out on the playground - *everyone look at me, look at me, pay attention to me*..... What in HELL does this thread have to do with politics, at least until you injected your bull****? Here's a secret for you...I don't give a damn about what passes for thought in your pea-sized brain. BTW, it's spring here. When are you planning to make your promised visit here to engage in criminal assault and home invasion? --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Please show where I ever said I was going to criminally assault anyone. Then please show where I said I was going to do a home invasion. See you in a few weeks, but please answer these allegations of yours first. |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
On Apr 11, 10:54*am, hk wrote:
On 4/11/10 10:16 AM, Loogypicker wrote: On Apr 10, 6:40 pm, *wrote: On 4/10/10 6:33 PM, Tim wrote: On Apr 10, 5:11 pm, * *wrote: On 10/04/2010 3:56 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: * * *wrote in message ... On Apr 10, 4:47 pm, * * *wrote: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...9ETMVA02..html So now what, will this become a safety standard of the industry that props should have guards? A guy jumped in the water behind a boat with a running motor. *The driver of the boat puts the boat in reverse, and hits the guy with the prop. The boat manufacturer has to pay. That's so screwed up it's almost unbelievable. *Almost. Hmm... so a simple device, known to prevent such accidents is intentionally not used, someone is maimed, but the boat manufacturer has no liability? I guess a jury disagreed. I guess that's communism run amok. Does not mater. *The husband basically ran this wench over: http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/...d-boat-propell.... Not sure if it is the same case as the dallas link is broken. *But what a darwin move. *Even if it had a guard, you are so darwinian stupid to do this as a captain or as a swimmer. 100% captians fault. *And judge should just say so and let OMC sue the **** out of him for recovery costs. *Take their home even and even go for the plaintifs lawyer for taking such a stupid case. -- Liberal-statism is an addiction to other peoples money. "The jury found Brunswick 66 percent liable for the injury, with Brochtrup and the boat's driver responsible for the rest. Because the driver was not part of the lawsuit, he will not have to pay. " So the pilot was at fault by 33 % but seeing he's not in the suit, be doesnt' have to pay. uh-huh... How much do you think the owners/operators of the mine that killed 29 this week should have to pay in damages to the families of the dead? -- Conservatives - just pretend Obama's health care legislation is another unnecessary war and you'll feel better about it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No one forced ANY of those workers to take those jobs. Loogy...the Chumpion of Corporate America. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do you think that someone forced those people to work there? Quite the contrary. They actually interviewed one mother who stated that she tried to get her son to not get into the mining trade, he did anyway. |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
On 4/12/10 9:12 AM, Loogypicker wrote:
On Apr 11, 10:58 am, wrote: On 4/11/10 10:15 AM, Loogypicker wrote: On Apr 10, 6:10 pm, wrote: On 4/10/10 5:16 PM, Jack wrote: On Apr 10, 4:47 pm, wrote: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...D9ETMVA02.html So now what, will this become a safety standard of the industry that props should have guards? A guy jumped in the water behind a boat with a running motor. The driver of the boat puts the boat in reverse, and hits the guy with the prop. The boat manufacturer has to pay. That's so screwed up it's almost unbelievable. Almost. A president and his vice president lie about WMDs, and tens of thousands of people paid the price with their lives and pocketbooks. That's so screwed up it is unbelievable. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym You act like a ****ing little boy out on the playground - *everyone look at me, look at me, pay attention to me*..... What in HELL does this thread have to do with politics, at least until you injected your bull****? Here's a secret for you...I don't give a damn about what passes for thought in your pea-sized brain. BTW, it's spring here. When are you planning to make your promised visit here to engage in criminal assault and home invasion? --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Please show where I ever said I was going to criminally assault anyone. Then please show where I said I was going to do a home invasion. See you in a few weeks, but please answer these allegations of yours first. snerk Told you before, fart-for-brains...you're not welcome here and if you attempt to push the issue through assault or home invasion or vandalism, it will end badly for you. -- http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
hk wrote:
On 4/12/10 9:12 AM, Loogypicker wrote: On Apr 11, 10:58 am, wrote: On 4/11/10 10:15 AM, Loogypicker wrote: On Apr 10, 6:10 pm, wrote: On 4/10/10 5:16 PM, Jack wrote: On Apr 10, 4:47 pm, wrote: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...D9ETMVA02.html So now what, will this become a safety standard of the industry that props should have guards? A guy jumped in the water behind a boat with a running motor. The driver of the boat puts the boat in reverse, and hits the guy with the prop. The boat manufacturer has to pay. That's so screwed up it's almost unbelievable. Almost. A president and his vice president lie about WMDs, and tens of thousands of people paid the price with their lives and pocketbooks. That's so screwed up it is unbelievable. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym You act like a ****ing little boy out on the playground - *everyone look at me, look at me, pay attention to me*..... What in HELL does this thread have to do with politics, at least until you injected your bull****? Here's a secret for you...I don't give a damn about what passes for thought in your pea-sized brain. BTW, it's spring here. When are you planning to make your promised visit here to engage in criminal assault and home invasion? --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Please show where I ever said I was going to criminally assault anyone. Then please show where I said I was going to do a home invasion. See you in a few weeks, but please answer these allegations of yours first. snerk Told you before, fart-for-brains...you're not welcome here and if you attempt to push the issue through assault or home invasion or vandalism, it will end badly for you. Loogie is just pushing your button, and you fall for it each and every time. How dumb is that? You must be very skeeered of Loogie. |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
hk wrote:
On 4/12/10 9:12 AM, Loogypicker wrote: On Apr 11, 10:58 am, wrote: On 4/11/10 10:15 AM, Loogypicker wrote: On Apr 10, 6:10 pm, wrote: On 4/10/10 5:16 PM, Jack wrote: On Apr 10, 4:47 pm, wrote: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...D9ETMVA02.html So now what, will this become a safety standard of the industry that props should have guards? A guy jumped in the water behind a boat with a running motor. The driver of the boat puts the boat in reverse, and hits the guy with the prop. The boat manufacturer has to pay. That's so screwed up it's almost unbelievable. Almost. A president and his vice president lie about WMDs, and tens of thousands of people paid the price with their lives and pocketbooks. That's so screwed up it is unbelievable. --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym You act like a ****ing little boy out on the playground - *everyone look at me, look at me, pay attention to me*..... What in HELL does this thread have to do with politics, at least until you injected your bull****? Here's a secret for you...I don't give a damn about what passes for thought in your pea-sized brain. BTW, it's spring here. When are you planning to make your promised visit here to engage in criminal assault and home invasion? --http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Please show where I ever said I was going to criminally assault anyone. Then please show where I said I was going to do a home invasion. See you in a few weeks, but please answer these allegations of yours first. snerk Told you before, fart-for-brains...you're not welcome here and if you attempt to push the issue through assault or home invasion or vandalism, it will end badly for you. http://www.mefeedia.com/watch/29532961 |
Pilot error, and Brunswick pays 3.8 mil.
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... On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 22:58:05 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: If you want some light reading take a peek http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-...4pcs. txt.pdf I couldn't get the link to work... I seriously doubt one's home would be required to have an energy star label like my fridge does. The link works, you may have just not waited long enough for it to load. ... and "energy star label" is exactly the language they use. I doubt it means you have to put a sticker on the door but you will have a notation on your title deed. I'll try again later. There's already tons of paperwork required for a sale... all sorts of disclosure statements. It's likely the same bs. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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