power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On Apr 9, 9:41*am, Tim wrote:
This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? *I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

Trimming the motor really does a lot of good when you are at cruising
speed. You'll notice a few more MPH at the same RPM's and the motor
won't be working nearly as hard because you're not plowing water when
trimmed well.

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On 4/9/10 9:41 AM, Tim wrote:
This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

Using that trim, you might be able to achieve the all-important 88 mph
speed, which will push you and the DeLorean barge backwards to the future.

Answer...try the trim and see what happens, but with that small a motor
and that large a boat, I doubt it will have much impact.


--
http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 06:41:27 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

I would think a power trim on the engine would be great for a pontoon boat,
where the ability to raise and lower the bow may be necessary to offset loading
imbalances.

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On Apr 9, 9:55*am, hk wrote:
On 4/9/10 9:41 AM, Tim wrote:

This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? *I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

Using that trim, you might be able to achieve the all-important 88 mph
speed, which will push you and the DeLorean barge backwards to the future..

Answer...try the trim and see what happens, but with that small a motor
and that large a boat, I doubt it will have much impact.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

It's an 85 horse. It will trim that pontoon boat out easily.

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

Tim,
Might sound funny but when I take my 21' out. I set the throttle and then
trim until the motor reaches its highest RPM (RPM will drop if boat is bow
up or down) without touching the throttle and this gives me the best trim
possible. My experience/opinion anyway.

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

Thanks for all he ideas. I know that trim works well on my v hulls,
but I've never used a tube boat. And seeing it's not a v or tri-hull
etc, I was wondering about the trim's effectiveness on a two-rail type
system. Yeah, I suppose I'll find out one way or another.

I have noticed that pontoons sit low in the back anyhow, and with
people on it, the things sit low everywhere.

True, this might take a bit of experimentation.

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On Apr 9, 9:41*am, Tim wrote:
This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? *I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

My old Bennington was a 25' tritoon with lifting strakes and a 150hp
Johnson. The trim on it did make some difference... in a straight
line you could affect the speed and bow lift a bit. However, when set
at the most efficient for running in a straight line, it would
ventilate the prop in anything over a gentle turn. When skiing or
pulling a tube, I'd have to work the trim a lot.

The new Premier is also a 25' tritoon, but it has a different center
pontoon design. With the Yamaha 250 on it, the trim has virtually no
effect on the bow lift or speed... it seems that it's planed out and
doing all it will do. Nice thing is that it's hooked up solid with no
ventilation in the turns, and it'll turn nearly as sharp as a V hull.

With your boat's length and having two 'toons, I'd be surprised if you
see much of an effect with the trim, but I may be wrong. Let us know
what it does.

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On Apr 9, 11:15*am, wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 06:41:27 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? *I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

The trim can make a little difference but not that much. I have a 60
and had a 75 on a 20' Harris. I could play with the trim and get about
a 1 MPH swing. *Trim can help a lot in shallow water operation tho.

An 85 is not going to give you tremendous performance on that boat
anyway. That motor is old enough that the 85 was probably BHP and not
at the prop so it may be more like 70. If you really figure out you
like the pontoon boat experience I would be saving my box tops for a 4
stroke 115-150 class repower.

Thanks Greg. I DO have a 115 v4 saved up for the perfect opertunity,
And it may be used.

I figures since a pontoon sits low in the back then trimming it would
probably jsut push the back end lower, because I don't think the front
is going to raise. Especially "to the moon, Alice" before planing,t
hat is, if a pontoon actually 'planes'. It probably does but not as I
know it. I'm a v-hull boater, not a barge operator.

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On Apr 9, 11:26*am, wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 07:54:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Thanks for all he ideas. I know that trim works well on my v hulls,
but I've never used a tube boat. And seeing it's not a v or tri-hull
etc, I was wondering about the trim's effectiveness on a two-rail type
system. Yeah, I suppose I'll find out one way or another.

I have noticed that pontoons sit low in the back anyhow, and with
people on it, the things sit low everywhere.

True, this might take a bit of experimentation.

"Trimming" the people on the boat by balancing the load makes more
difference than anything you can do with the motor but a load on that
aircraft carrier you have is probably 10 or more. It is real hard to
get that many people to sit in one spot for long.

Agreed. It will probably be mroe like a portable or powered raft if
anything else

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On Apr 9, 11:44*am, Jack wrote:


The new Premier is also a 25' tritoon, but it has a different center pontoon design. With the Yamaha 250 on it,"

Cripes, Jack! You do have a rocket sled on rails!

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On 4/9/10 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 9, 11:15 am, wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 06:41:27 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

The trim can make a little difference but not that much. I have a 60
and had a 75 on a 20' Harris. I could play with the trim and get about
a 1 MPH swing. Trim can help a lot in shallow water operation tho.

An 85 is not going to give you tremendous performance on that boat
anyway. That motor is old enough that the 85 was probably BHP and not
at the prop so it may be more like 70. If you really figure out you
like the pontoon boat experience I would be saving my box tops for a 4
stroke 115-150 class repower.

Thanks Greg. I DO have a 115 v4 saved up for the perfect opertunity,
And it may be used.

I figures since a pontoon sits low in the back then trimming it would
probably jsut push the back end lower, because I don't think the front
is going to raise. Especially "to the moon, Alice" before planing,t
hat is, if a pontoon actually 'planes'. It probably does but not as I
know it. I'm a v-hull boater, not a barge operator.

Before I bought my first small boat in Jax, I rented a nice pontoon boat
for the day from an outfit on the St. Johns River, near where it empties
into the Atlantic. It was a "somewhere in the 20's" in terms of length,
and it had a 115 hp Merc on it. Nice boat.


Well, the trip out to the mouth of the river was uneventful. It was too
rough for comfort for the pontoon boat between the jetties, what with
the wind, the current and boat wakes, so we messed around near one of
the beaches on the south side. Going back, the wind kicked up and the
trip back to the dock on that pontoon was not very enjoyable. Made me
think a lot more seriously about buying a small v-hull boat, rather than
a pontoon boat, for the river, ICW and occasional near shore Atlantic
fishing.





--
http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On Apr 9, 1:16*pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 9, 11:44*am, Jack wrote:

The new Premier is also a 25' tritoon, but it has a different center pontoon design. *With the Yamaha 250 on it,"

Cripes, Jack! *You do have a rocket sled on rails!

It'll only do about 40mph... big, heavy, and lots of drag. But it's
comfortable and will snatch a slalom skier up from a deepwater start.
Did you ever see the video?

http://www.pontoons.com/ptx_performa...vantage_video/

The speed isn't that important to me unless a storm brews up while
we're out. Then it's nice to be able to get back to the slip quicker.

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On Apr 9, 12:29*pm, Jack wrote:
On Apr 9, 1:16*pm, Tim wrote:

On Apr 9, 11:44*am, Jack wrote:

The new Premier is also a 25' tritoon, but it has a different center pontoon design. *With the Yamaha 250 on it,"

Cripes, Jack! *You do have a rocket sled on rails!

It'll only do about 40mph... big, heavy, and lots of drag. *But it's
comfortable and will snatch a slalom skier up from a deepwater start.
Did you ever see the video?

http://www.pontoons.com/ptx_performa...vantage_video/

The speed isn't that important to me unless a storm brews up while
we're out. *Then it's nice to be able to get back to the slip quicker.

Here on dial-up it's hard to watch vids, ut I've seen the ones witht
he pontoons going aout 85-80 mph. Screaming engine too!


Several years ago, a guy put a Mercury 200 hp "Black Max" on a 24'
Harris and it would get after it. The pontoons made a wierd 'singing'

It was really fun to ski behind. almost no wake.


Now concerning engine power, sometime ago I bought a derilict boat for
the outdrive, and I do have a 120 hp 4 cyl mercruiser I could park in
it. Which I doub't would have the torque of the v-4 Johnsons, but
would be more economical. Maybe not as much as a modern 4 cycle
outboard, but Hey, you run what you brung, y'know. Also, If I decide
to keep the thing, I may do some work with some hybrid gas/electric
ideas .....

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

"hk" wrote in message
m...
On 4/9/10 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 9, 11:15 am, wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 06:41:27 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

The trim can make a little difference but not that much. I have a 60
and had a 75 on a 20' Harris. I could play with the trim and get about
a 1 MPH swing. Trim can help a lot in shallow water operation tho.

An 85 is not going to give you tremendous performance on that boat
anyway. That motor is old enough that the 85 was probably BHP and not
at the prop so it may be more like 70. If you really figure out you
like the pontoon boat experience I would be saving my box tops for a 4
stroke 115-150 class repower.

Thanks Greg. I DO have a 115 v4 saved up for the perfect opertunity,
And it may be used.

I figures since a pontoon sits low in the back then trimming it would
probably jsut push the back end lower, because I don't think the front
is going to raise. Especially "to the moon, Alice" before planing,t
hat is, if a pontoon actually 'planes'. It probably does but not as I
know it. I'm a v-hull boater, not a barge operator.

Before I bought my first small boat in Jax, I rented a nice pontoon boat
for the day from an outfit on the St. Johns River, near where it empties
into the Atlantic. It was a "somewhere in the 20's" in terms of length,
and it had a 115 hp Merc on it. Nice boat.


Well, the trip out to the mouth of the river was uneventful. It was too
rough for comfort for the pontoon boat between the jetties, what with the
wind, the current and boat wakes, so we messed around near one of the
beaches on the south side. Going back, the wind kicked up and the trip
back to the dock on that pontoon was not very enjoyable. Made me think a
lot more seriously about buying a small v-hull boat, rather than a pontoon
boat, for the river, ICW and occasional near shore Atlantic fishing.



Once in a blue moon you'll see one in our harbour, but that's about it.
I've never seen one at any of the local boat/yacht clubs situated on the
ocean.

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On 4/9/10 1:51 PM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 9, 12:29 pm, wrote:
On Apr 9, 1:16 pm, wrote:

On Apr 9, 11:44 am, wrote:

The new Premier is also a 25' tritoon, but it has a different center pontoon design. With the Yamaha 250 on it,"

Cripes, Jack! You do have a rocket sled on rails!

It'll only do about 40mph... big, heavy, and lots of drag. But it's
comfortable and will snatch a slalom skier up from a deepwater start.
Did you ever see the video?

http://www.pontoons.com/ptx_performa...vantage_video/

The speed isn't that important to me unless a storm brews up while
we're out. Then it's nice to be able to get back to the slip quicker.

Here on dial-up it's hard to watch vids, ut I've seen the ones witht
he pontoons going aout 85-80 mph. Screaming engine too!


You have dial up? You got rid of the soup cans and string?

--
http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On Apr 9, 2:00*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 09:44:36 -0700 (PDT), Jack
wrote:





On Apr 9, 9:41*am, Tim wrote:
This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? *I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

My old Bennington was a 25' tritoon with lifting strakes and a 150hp
Johnson. *The trim on it did make some difference... in a straight
line you could affect the speed and bow lift a bit. *However, when set
at the most efficient for running in a straight line, it would
ventilate the prop in anything over a gentle turn. *When skiing or
pulling a tube, I'd have to work the trim a lot.

The new Premier is also a 25' tritoon, but it has a different center
pontoon design. *With the Yamaha 250 on it, the trim has virtually no
effect on the bow lift or speed... it seems that it's planed out and
doing all it will do. *Nice thing is that it's hooked up solid with no
ventilation in the turns, and it'll turn nearly as sharp as a V hull.

With your boat's length and having two 'toons, I'd be surprised if you
see much of an effect with the trim, but I may be wrong. *Let us know
what it does.

Cavitating the prop in a turn is common with pontoons, particularly if
the motor is mounted high. You are *going through the wash of the
outside pontoon on a turn. Perhaps your 250 is heavy enough to hold
the stern down more. Is it a longer shaft or mounted lower?
My boat is horrible about blowing out on a hard turn at speed but I
gave that up for shallow running ability. My motor is 4" above the
stock location.- Hide quoted text -


I always thought it was because of the center pontoon being right in
front of the motor. With the old boat the dealer said it was normal,
and I had to expect to work the trim a bit.

With the new one and the 250, I wondered about the mounting height
myself, but taking a look at the foot as I'm underway it looks like
it's running about as deep as I understand it should. I think the
design of the center "PTX" toon and the way the boat turns, with the
rear squatting, banking, and lifting the outside toon out of the
water, it just has cleaner water and is "forced" to stay hooked up.
Watch the video I linked in a previous post and you'll see what I mean.

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On 4/9/10 3:57 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:59:49 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


wrote in message
m...
On 4/9/10 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 9, 11:15 am, wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 06:41:27 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

The trim can make a little difference but not that much. I have a 60
and had a 75 on a 20' Harris. I could play with the trim and get about
a 1 MPH swing. Trim can help a lot in shallow water operation tho.

An 85 is not going to give you tremendous performance on that boat
anyway. That motor is old enough that the 85 was probably BHP and not
at the prop so it may be more like 70. If you really figure out you
like the pontoon boat experience I would be saving my box tops for a 4
stroke 115-150 class repower.

Thanks Greg. I DO have a 115 v4 saved up for the perfect opertunity,
And it may be used.

I figures since a pontoon sits low in the back then trimming it would
probably jsut push the back end lower, because I don't think the front
is going to raise. Especially "to the moon, Alice" before planing,t
hat is, if a pontoon actually 'planes'. It probably does but not as I
know it. I'm a v-hull boater, not a barge operator.

Before I bought my first small boat in Jax, I rented a nice pontoon boat
for the day from an outfit on the St. Johns River, near where it empties
into the Atlantic. It was a "somewhere in the 20's" in terms of length,
and it had a 115 hp Merc on it. Nice boat.


Well, the trip out to the mouth of the river was uneventful. It was too
rough for comfort for the pontoon boat between the jetties, what with the
wind, the current and boat wakes, so we messed around near one of the
beaches on the south side. Going back, the wind kicked up and the trip
back to the dock on that pontoon was not very enjoyable. Made me think a
lot more seriously about buying a small v-hull boat, rather than a pontoon
boat, for the river, ICW and occasional near shore Atlantic fishing.



Once in a blue moon you'll see one in our harbour, but that's about it.
I've never seen one at any of the local boat/yacht clubs situated on the
ocean.


We have pontoons 10 miles offshore in the Gulf all the time but the
water is usually pretty calm here.


There are always fools doing things in boats they shouldn't. Going 10
miles offshore in a pontoon boat on a relatively shallow body of water
where storms can come up suddenly sounds like a competition for the
Darwin award. Well, Loogy would do it.

--
http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On Apr 9, 1:10*pm, hk wrote:
On 4/9/10 1:51 PM, Tim wrote:





On Apr 9, 12:29 pm, *wrote:
On Apr 9, 1:16 pm, *wrote:

On Apr 9, 11:44 am, *wrote:

The new Premier is also a 25' tritoon, but it has a different *center pontoon design. *With the Yamaha 250 on it,"

Cripes, Jack! *You do have a rocket sled on rails!

It'll only do about 40mph... big, heavy, and lots of drag. *But it's
comfortable and will snatch a slalom skier up from a deepwater start.
Did you ever see the video?

http://www.pontoons.com/ptx_performa...vantage_video/

The speed isn't that important to me unless a storm brews up while
we're out. *Then it's nice to be able to get back to the slip quicker.

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

hk wrote:
On 4/9/10 9:41 AM, Tim wrote:
This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

Using that trim, you might be able to achieve the all-important 88 mph
speed, which will push you and the DeLorean barge backwards to the
future.

Answer...try the trim and see what happens, but with that small a
motor and that large a boat, I doubt it will have much impact.


Great response: try it

If you have no idea, you don't have to respond, Harry. I know how power
trim works with a V-hull. I had no compulsion to respond in reference
to a pontoon, why did you?

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

Tim wrote:
On Apr 9, 11:15 am, wrote:

On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 06:41:27 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

The trim can make a little difference but not that much. I have a 60
and had a 75 on a 20' Harris. I could play with the trim and get about
a 1 MPH swing. Trim can help a lot in shallow water operation tho.

An 85 is not going to give you tremendous performance on that boat
anyway. That motor is old enough that the 85 was probably BHP and not
at the prop so it may be more like 70. If you really figure out you
like the pontoon boat experience I would be saving my box tops for a 4
stroke 115-150 class repower.

Thanks Greg. I DO have a 115 v4 saved up for the perfect opertunity,
And it may be used.

I figures since a pontoon sits low in the back then trimming it would
probably jsut push the back end lower, because I don't think the front
is going to raise. Especially "to the moon, Alice" before planing,t
hat is, if a pontoon actually 'planes'. It probably does but not as I
know it. I'm a v-hull boater, not a barge operator.

You will be soon!

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On Apr 9, 4:08*pm, hk wrote:
On 4/9/10 3:57 PM, wrote:





On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:59:49 -0300, "Don White"
*wrote:

*wrote in message
news:SvudndCca7ep_CLWnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@earthlink. com...
On 4/9/10 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 9, 11:15 am, wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 06:41:27 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? *I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

The trim can make a little difference but not that much. I have a 60
and had a 75 on a 20' Harris. I could play with the trim and get about
a 1 MPH swing. *Trim can help a lot in shallow water operation tho.

An 85 is not going to give you tremendous performance on that boat
anyway. That motor is old enough that the 85 was probably BHP and not
at the prop so it may be more like 70. If you really figure out you
like the pontoon boat experience I would be saving my box tops for a 4
stroke 115-150 class repower.

Thanks Greg. I DO have a 115 v4 saved up for the perfect opertunity,
And it may be used.

I figures since a pontoon sits low in the back then trimming it would
probably jsut push the back end lower, because I don't think the front
is going to raise. Especially "to the moon, Alice" before planing,t
hat is, if a pontoon actually 'planes'. It probably does but not as I
know it. I'm a v-hull boater, not a barge operator.

Before I bought my first small boat in Jax, I rented a nice pontoon boat
for the day from an outfit on the St. Johns River, near where it empties
into the Atlantic. It was a "somewhere in the 20's" in terms of length,
and it had a 115 hp Merc on it. Nice boat.

Well, the trip out to the mouth of the river was uneventful. It was too
rough for comfort for the pontoon boat between the jetties, what with the
wind, the current and boat wakes, so we messed around near one of the
beaches on the south side. Going back, the wind kicked up and the trip
back to the dock on that pontoon was not very enjoyable. Made me think a
lot more seriously about buying a small v-hull boat, rather than a pontoon
boat, for the river, ICW and occasional near shore Atlantic fishing.

Once in a blue moon you'll see one in our harbour, but that's about it..
I've never seen one at any of the local boat/yacht clubs situated on the
ocean.

We have pontoons 10 miles offshore in the Gulf all the time but the
water is usually pretty calm here.

There are always fools doing things in boats they shouldn't. Going 10
miles offshore in a pontoon boat on a relatively shallow body of water
where storms can come up suddenly sounds like a competition for the
Darwin award. Well, Loogy would do it.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You should just cower in your basement as opposed to doing anything
adventurous. It's a dangerous world out there, and there must be
practice tests to take.

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On 4/10/10 10:27 AM, Loogypicker wrote:
On Apr 9, 4:08 pm, wrote:
On 4/9/10 3:57 PM, wrote:





On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:59:49 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:

wrote in message
m...
On 4/9/10 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 9, 11:15 am, wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 06:41:27 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

The trim can make a little difference but not that much. I have a 60
and had a 75 on a 20' Harris. I could play with the trim and get about
a 1 MPH swing. Trim can help a lot in shallow water operation tho.

An 85 is not going to give you tremendous performance on that boat
anyway. That motor is old enough that the 85 was probably BHP and not
at the prop so it may be more like 70. If you really figure out you
like the pontoon boat experience I would be saving my box tops for a 4
stroke 115-150 class repower.

Thanks Greg. I DO have a 115 v4 saved up for the perfect opertunity,
And it may be used.

I figures since a pontoon sits low in the back then trimming it would
probably jsut push the back end lower, because I don't think the front
is going to raise. Especially "to the moon, Alice" before planing,t
hat is, if a pontoon actually 'planes'. It probably does but not as I
know it. I'm a v-hull boater, not a barge operator.

Before I bought my first small boat in Jax, I rented a nice pontoon boat
for the day from an outfit on the St. Johns River, near where it empties
into the Atlantic. It was a "somewhere in the 20's" in terms of length,
and it had a 115 hp Merc on it. Nice boat.

Well, the trip out to the mouth of the river was uneventful. It was too
rough for comfort for the pontoon boat between the jetties, what with the
wind, the current and boat wakes, so we messed around near one of the
beaches on the south side. Going back, the wind kicked up and the trip
back to the dock on that pontoon was not very enjoyable. Made me think a
lot more seriously about buying a small v-hull boat, rather than a pontoon
boat, for the river, ICW and occasional near shore Atlantic fishing.

Once in a blue moon you'll see one in our harbour, but that's about it.
I've never seen one at any of the local boat/yacht clubs situated on the
ocean.

We have pontoons 10 miles offshore in the Gulf all the time but the
water is usually pretty calm here.

There are always fools doing things in boats they shouldn't. Going 10
miles offshore in a pontoon boat on a relatively shallow body of water
where storms can come up suddenly sounds like a competition for the
Darwin award. Well, Loogy would do it.

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You should just cower in your basement as opposed to doing anything
adventurous. It's a dangerous world out there, and there must be
practice tests to take.



Please...your idea of boating is to rent a rowboat and have your wife
row you around lake lanier.

--
http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

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On Apr 10, 10:30*am, hk wrote:
On 4/10/10 10:27 AM, Loogypicker wrote:





On Apr 9, 4:08 pm, *wrote:
On 4/9/10 3:57 PM, wrote:

On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 14:59:49 -0300, "Don White"
* *wrote:

* *wrote in message
news:SvudndCca7ep_CLWnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@earthlin k.com...
On 4/9/10 1:12 PM, Tim wrote:
On Apr 9, 11:15 am, wrote:
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 06:41:27 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

This pontoon I just got has a v-4 evinrude with a power trim . Besides
using it to raise the lower end for transport, is a power trim really
of any effective use on a pontoon boat? especially of one of this size
and loaded down with people? *I mean it's gong to be a cruise
platform, not a rocket sled.

The trim can make a little difference but not that much. I have a 60
and had a 75 on a 20' Harris. I could play with the trim and get about
a 1 MPH swing. *Trim can help a lot in shallow water operation tho.

An 85 is not going to give you tremendous performance on that boat
anyway. That motor is old enough that the 85 was probably BHP and not
at the prop so it may be more like 70. If you really figure out you
like the pontoon boat experience I would be saving my box tops for a 4
stroke 115-150 class repower.

Thanks Greg. I DO have a 115 v4 saved up for the perfect opertunity,
And it may be used.

I figures since a pontoon sits low in the back then trimming it would
probably jsut push the back end lower, because I don't think the front
is going to raise. Especially "to the moon, Alice" before planing,t
hat is, if a pontoon actually 'planes'. It probably does but not as I
know it. I'm a v-hull boater, not a barge operator.

Before I bought my first small boat in Jax, I rented a nice pontoon boat
for the day from an outfit on the St. Johns River, near where it empties
into the Atlantic. It was a "somewhere in the 20's" in terms of length,
and it had a 115 hp Merc on it. Nice boat.

Well, the trip out to the mouth of the river was uneventful. It was too
rough for comfort for the pontoon boat between the jetties, what with the
wind, the current and boat wakes, so we messed around near one of the
beaches on the south side. Going back, the wind kicked up and the trip
back to the dock on that pontoon was not very enjoyable. Made me think a
lot more seriously about buying a small v-hull boat, rather than a pontoon
boat, for the river, ICW and occasional near shore Atlantic fishing..

Once in a blue moon you'll see one in our harbour, but that's about it.
I've never seen one at any of the local boat/yacht clubs situated on the
ocean.

We have pontoons 10 miles offshore in the Gulf all the time but the
water is usually pretty calm here.

There are always fools doing things in boats they shouldn't. Going 10
miles offshore in a pontoon boat on a relatively shallow body of water
where storms can come up suddenly sounds like a competition for the
Darwin award. Well, Loogy would do it.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You should just cower in your basement as opposed to doing anything
adventurous. It's a dangerous world out there, and there must be
practice tests to take.

Please...your idea of boating is to rent a rowboat and have your wife
row you around lake lanier.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Sure, do tell, once more, how you know about what I have, what I do,
and my family......
Or you could just admit that you're making **** up, just like you do
about your life, your wife, and everything you claim to own.

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 07:54:46 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Thanks for all he ideas. I know that trim works well on my v hulls,
but I've never used a tube boat. And seeing it's not a v or tri-hull
etc, I was wondering about the trim's effectiveness on a two-rail type
system. Yeah, I suppose I'll find out one way or another.

I have noticed that pontoons sit low in the back anyhow, and with
people on it, the things sit low everywhere.

True, this might take a bit of experimentation.

"Trimming" the people on the boat by balancing the load makes more
difference than anything you can do with the motor but a load on that
aircraft carrier you have is probably 10 or more. It is real hard to
get that many people to sit in one spot for long.

Duct tape!

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

A pontoon does have a step but you can't really call it planing.

Ever seen one of these? http://www.pontoonwaterglide.com/
Not cheap but pretty interesting.

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On Apr 10, 5:08*pm, "mmc" wrote:
A pontoon does have a step but you can't really call it planing.

Ever seen one of these?http://www.pontoonwaterglide.com/
Not cheap but pretty interesting.

That's a lot cheaper than the 3rd pontoon option when buying a new
boat. Looks like it would give you some, but not nearly all of the
benefits as well. But if you had an older 2 toon boat you were happy
with and just wanted to upgrade on the cheap, I could see it.

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Apr 10, 5:08 pm, "mmc" wrote:
A pontoon does have a step but you can't really call it planing.

Ever seen one of these?http://www.pontoonwaterglide.com/
Not cheap but pretty interesting.

That's a lot cheaper than the 3rd pontoon option when buying a new
boat. Looks like it would give you some, but not nearly all of the
benefits as well. But if you had an older 2 toon boat you were happy
with and just wanted to upgrade on the cheap, I could see it.

--------
I watched the before/after vid and it looked good. Then I watched the vid
again on the PTX, man that thing is awesome! Maybe mine could be "almost
awesome" or "semi-awesome" with the $1,800 kit :-} Or at least enough to
keep the kids awake.
'Course, I'd probably also have to step up from my 50hp 2 cycle.....

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On Apr 10, 6:31*pm, "mmc" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

...
On Apr 10, 5:08 pm, "mmc" wrote:

A pontoon does have a step but you can't really call it planing.

Ever seen one of these?http://www.pontoonwaterglide.com/
Not cheap but pretty interesting.

That's a lot cheaper than the 3rd pontoon option when buying a new
boat. *Looks like it would give you some, but not nearly all of the
benefits as well. *But if you had an older 2 toon boat you were happy
with and just wanted to upgrade on the cheap, I could see it.

--------
I watched the before/after vid and it looked good. Then I watched the vid
again on the PTX, man that thing is awesome! Maybe mine could be "almost
awesome" or "semi-awesome" with the $1,800 kit :-} Or at least enough to
keep the kids awake.
'Course, I'd probably also have to step up from my 50hp 2 cycle.....

I just went back to the site and watched the videos. It's pretty
impressive! I have a friend who will be interested in that... I'm
betting he'll have one by mid-summer after he sees the video.

But right now I'm headed out to the lake. Another couple is coming
over, and we're going to eat lunch at one of the marina/restaurants
and spend the afternoon out on the water. It'll be a slow, putt-
around kind of day. :-)

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Apr 10, 6:31 pm, "mmc" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

...
On Apr 10, 5:08 pm, "mmc" wrote:

A pontoon does have a step but you can't really call it planing.

Ever seen one of these?http://www.pontoonwaterglide.com/
Not cheap but pretty interesting.

That's a lot cheaper than the 3rd pontoon option when buying a new
boat. Looks like it would give you some, but not nearly all of the
benefits as well. But if you had an older 2 toon boat you were happy
with and just wanted to upgrade on the cheap, I could see it.

--------
I watched the before/after vid and it looked good. Then I watched the vid
again on the PTX, man that thing is awesome! Maybe mine could be "almost
awesome" or "semi-awesome" with the $1,800 kit :-} Or at least enough to
keep the kids awake.
'Course, I'd probably also have to step up from my 50hp 2 cycle.....

I just went back to the site and watched the videos. It's pretty
impressive! I have a friend who will be interested in that... I'm
betting he'll have one by mid-summer after he sees the video.

But right now I'm headed out to the lake. Another couple is coming
over, and we're going to eat lunch at one of the marina/restaurants
and spend the afternoon out on the water. It'll be a slow, putt-
around kind of day. :-)
-------
Sounds like a great day.

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On Apr 11, 12:03*pm, "mmc" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

...
On Apr 10, 6:31 pm, "mmc" wrote:





"Jack" wrote in message

...
On Apr 10, 5:08 pm, "mmc" wrote:

A pontoon does have a step but you can't really call it planing.

Ever seen one of these?http://www.pontoonwaterglide.com/
Not cheap but pretty interesting.

That's a lot cheaper than the 3rd pontoon option when buying a new
boat. Looks like it would give you some, but not nearly all of the
benefits as well. But if you had an older 2 toon boat you were happy
with and just wanted to upgrade on the cheap, I could see it.

--------
I watched the before/after vid and it looked good. Then I watched the vid
again on the PTX, man that thing is awesome! Maybe mine could be "almost
awesome" or "semi-awesome" with the $1,800 kit :-} Or at least enough to
keep the kids awake.
'Course, I'd probably also have to step up from my 50hp 2 cycle.....

I just went back to the site and watched the videos. *It's pretty
impressive! *I have a friend who will be interested in that... I'm
betting he'll have one by mid-summer after he sees the video.

But right now I'm headed out to the lake. *Another couple is coming
over, and we're going to eat lunch at one of the marina/restaurants
and spend the afternoon out on the water. *It'll be a slow, putt-
around kind of day. * :-)
-------
Sounds like a great day.

It was fun. In the end, even with the big motor and PTX, we spend
probably 90% of our time poking around at 2500 rpm or just floating
and swimming. It's all about relaxing and having fun, right?

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Apr 11, 12:03 pm, "mmc" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

...
On Apr 10, 6:31 pm, "mmc" wrote:





"Jack" wrote in message

...
On Apr 10, 5:08 pm, "mmc" wrote:

A pontoon does have a step but you can't really call it planing.

Ever seen one of these?http://www.pontoonwaterglide.com/
Not cheap but pretty interesting.

That's a lot cheaper than the 3rd pontoon option when buying a new
boat. Looks like it would give you some, but not nearly all of the
benefits as well. But if you had an older 2 toon boat you were happy
with and just wanted to upgrade on the cheap, I could see it.

--------
I watched the before/after vid and it looked good. Then I watched the
vid
again on the PTX, man that thing is awesome! Maybe mine could be "almost
awesome" or "semi-awesome" with the $1,800 kit :-} Or at least enough to
keep the kids awake.
'Course, I'd probably also have to step up from my 50hp 2 cycle.....

I just went back to the site and watched the videos. It's pretty
impressive! I have a friend who will be interested in that... I'm
betting he'll have one by mid-summer after he sees the video.

But right now I'm headed out to the lake. Another couple is coming
over, and we're going to eat lunch at one of the marina/restaurants
and spend the afternoon out on the water. It'll be a slow, putt-
around kind of day. :-)
-------
Sounds like a great day.

It was fun. In the end, even with the big motor and PTX, we spend
probably 90% of our time poking around at 2500 rpm or just floating
and swimming. It's all about relaxing and having fun, right?
-------
That's my goal!

power trim on a 30' pontoon
 

On Apr 13, 8:54*am, "mmc" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

...
On Apr 11, 12:03 pm, "mmc" wrote:





"Jack" wrote in message

...
On Apr 10, 6:31 pm, "mmc" wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message

....
On Apr 10, 5:08 pm, "mmc" wrote:

A pontoon does have a step but you can't really call it planing.

Ever seen one of these?http://www.pontoonwaterglide.com/
Not cheap but pretty interesting.

That's a lot cheaper than the 3rd pontoon option when buying a new
boat. Looks like it would give you some, but not nearly all of the
benefits as well. But if you had an older 2 toon boat you were happy
with and just wanted to upgrade on the cheap, I could see it.

--------
I watched the before/after vid and it looked good. Then I watched the
vid
again on the PTX, man that thing is awesome! Maybe mine could be "almost
awesome" or "semi-awesome" with the $1,800 kit :-} Or at least enough to
keep the kids awake.
'Course, I'd probably also have to step up from my 50hp 2 cycle.....

I just went back to the site and watched the videos. It's pretty
impressive! I have a friend who will be interested in that... I'm
betting he'll have one by mid-summer after he sees the video.

But right now I'm headed out to the lake. Another couple is coming
over, and we're going to eat lunch at one of the marina/restaurants
and spend the afternoon out on the water. It'll be a slow, putt-
around kind of day. :-)
-------
Sounds like a great day.

It was fun. *In the end, even with the big motor and PTX, we spend
probably 90% of our time poking around at 2500 rpm or just floating
and swimming. *It's all about relaxing and having fun, right?
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Same here!