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Frogwatch April 7th 10 04:09 AM

West Coast Sailing
 
Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

nom=de=plume April 7th 10 05:33 AM

West Coast Sailing
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?



You're talking about the coast of Cal? I've heard it's very, very rough,
esp. going north. Never been, don't have any interest in doing that. I know
people die out there all the time.

--
Nom=de=Plume



CalifBill April 7th 10 07:29 AM

West Coast Sailing
 

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


The stay not too far offshore, check the forecasts closely. There is a
southern current of 3-6 knots offshore a ways. Somepoints, not very far
offshore. The Humboldt current. Run for cover, which is scarce, in the
event they get caught with a big swell.



Loogypicker[_2_] April 7th 10 01:28 PM

West Coast Sailing
 
On Apr 7, 2:29*am, "CalifBill" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...

Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? *Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


The stay not too far offshore, check the forecasts closely. *There is a
southern current of 3-6 knots offshore a ways. *Somepoints, not very far
offshore. *The Humboldt current. *Run for cover, which is scarce, in the
event they get caught with a big swell.


I was up in Ft. Bragg on time watching fishing boats going from the
protected cove there (there's also a marina) and going out to sea.
They'd hit the open part and all hell would break loose! Some of them
looked like it was all they could do to keep control of the boat
because of the surf. Oh, Noyo Harbor, that's what they called the
place.
Here's some coast guard practice, that entrance is one rough mother!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3JIx...eature=related

Don White April 7th 10 02:03 PM

West Coast Sailing
 

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere at
minimal or no cost for the night.



Don White April 7th 10 02:07 PM

West Coast Sailing
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between along the coast but every small community has a government wharf
for the commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere at minimal or no cost for the night.


Here's some info on those wharves....
http://www.closetothecoast.ca/map-hotspots.aspx



Frogwatch[_2_] April 7th 10 03:04 PM

West Coast Sailing
 
On Apr 7, 9:07*am, "Don White" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...





"Frogwatch" wrote in message
....
Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? *Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between along the coast but every small community has a government wharf
for the commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere at minimal or no cost for the night.


Here's some info on those wharves....http://www.closetothecoast.ca/map-hotspots.aspx


My curiosity was driven primarily by just reading "Two Years Before
the Mast" about a trading ship going up and down the Ca coast in the
1830s and how little protection there was from storms.

Larry[_13_] April 8th 10 02:05 AM

West Coast Sailing
 
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...

Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere at
minimal or no cost for the night.



How big is your sailboat, Don?

Don White April 8th 10 02:31 AM

West Coast Sailing
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...

Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.



How big is your sailboat, Don?


Try to keep up Dingy. I sold my sailboat & temporarly joined the ranks of
the infernal combustion crowd in the fall of 2007.



anon-e-moose[_2_] April 8th 10 02:46 AM

West Coast Sailing
 
Larry wrote:
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...

Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere at
minimal or no cost for the night.



How big is your sailboat, Don?


http://www.sandpiper565.com/




Frogwatch April 8th 10 04:26 AM

West Coast Sailing
 
On Apr 7, 9:46*pm, anon-e-moose wrote:
Larry wrote:
Don White wrote:
*wrote in message
....


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? *Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& *far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere at
minimal or no cost for the night.


How big is your sailboat, Don?


http://www.sandpiper565.com/


Don: I'd really like to get up your way some time cuz it looks very
pretty. It would require a change of mental attitude toward the
cold. I just expect water to be warm enough to swim in so I'd prob
jump overboard with no thought and die of hypothermia.
Once I talked to a guy from there and I could hardly understand
anything he said (it was probably mutual) his accent was so strong.
Even us educated North Florida rednecks seriously mangle the language.

Bill McKee April 8th 10 04:52 AM

West Coast Sailing
 

"Loogypicker" wrote in message
...
On Apr 7, 2:29 am, "CalifBill" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...

Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


The stay not too far offshore, check the forecasts closely. There is a
southern current of 3-6 knots offshore a ways. Somepoints, not very far
offshore. The Humboldt current. Run for cover, which is scarce, in the
event they get caught with a big swell.


I was up in Ft. Bragg on time watching fishing boats going from the
protected cove there (there's also a marina) and going out to sea.
They'd hit the open part and all hell would break loose! Some of them
looked like it was all they could do to keep control of the boat
because of the surf. Oh, Noyo Harbor, that's what they called the
place.
Here's some coast guard practice, that entrance is one rough mother!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3JIx...eature=related

One of those places where you watch the weather and sea, before venturing
out. Last time I launched out of Noyo, the ocean was nice, but they were
working on the bridge rebuild and the channel was narrow under the bridge.
Plus the harbor is shallow over a lot of it. So have to watch the tides to
launch from the ramps.



Bill McKee April 8th 10 05:04 AM

West Coast Sailing
 

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Apr 7, 9:07 am, "Don White" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message

...





"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into
numerous
small harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between along the coast but every small community has a government wharf
for the commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere at minimal or no cost for the night.


Here's some info on those
wharves....http://www.closetothecoast.ca/map-hotspots.aspx


My curiosity was driven primarily by just reading "Two Years Before
the Mast" about a trading ship going up and down the Ca coast in the
1830s and how little protection there was from storms.

Loved that book. Still one of my favorites. Growing up next to San
Francisco Bay, and going out on both our boat and friends 63' boat you could
really understand the weather. Look at the coast of California and Southern
Cal, is not to bad up to Morro Bay. That is where the North part really
starts. Lots of fog, cold currents and large swells. Nothing from Morro to
Monterey, and that is at least 100 miles via water. Then from San Francisco
the next stop is Drakes Bay, which is semi protected, then Blowdega as it is
locally known. then Fort Bragg is about the next safe harbor. Then Eureka.
Lots of big waves and 600' cliffs and not a lot of stuff inbetween, except
for Shelter Cove on the "Lost Coast", which can get rough depending on wind
directions. http://www.sheltercove-lostcoast.com/



Loogypicker[_2_] April 8th 10 02:33 PM

West Coast Sailing
 
On Apr 7, 9:03*am, "Don White" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...

Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? *Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere at
minimal or no cost for the night.


And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???

Frogwatch[_2_] April 8th 10 03:10 PM

West Coast Sailing
 
On Apr 8, 9:33*am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Apr 7, 9:03*am, "Don White" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message


....


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? *Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere at
minimal or no cost for the night.


And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???


In the late 80s, I spent a lot of time in Santa Barbara, CA and
thought it was wonderful except you could not afford to live there.
The contrast between how I saw Santa Barbara and how Dana saw it in
"Two Years Before the Mast" was huge. For him it was a difficult
place to land with no good anchorage and little civilization. It was
one of his least favorite places whereas he really liked San Diego.

Don White April 8th 10 04:00 PM

West Coast Sailing
 

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Apr 7, 9:46 pm, anon-e-moose wrote:
Larry wrote:
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere at
minimal or no cost for the night.


How big is your sailboat, Don?


http://www.sandpiper565.com/


Don: I'd really like to get up your way some time cuz it looks very
pretty. It would require a change of mental attitude toward the
cold. I just expect water to be warm enough to swim in so I'd prob
jump overboard with no thought and die of hypothermia.
Once I talked to a guy from there and I could hardly understand
anything he said (it was probably mutual) his accent was so strong.
Even us educated North Florida rednecks seriously mangle the language.

The photos you see at that site provided by JungleJim are at least 1000
miles west of my sailing area .... some more like 1500 miles.



nom=de=plume April 8th 10 06:33 PM

West Coast Sailing
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Apr 8, 9:33 am, Loogypicker wrote:
On Apr 7, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message


...


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.


And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???


In the late 80s, I spent a lot of time in Santa Barbara, CA and
thought it was wonderful except you could not afford to live there.
The contrast between how I saw Santa Barbara and how Dana saw it in
"Two Years Before the Mast" was huge. For him it was a difficult
place to land with no good anchorage and little civilization. It was
one of his least favorite places whereas he really liked San Diego.



SB is wildly expensive, that's true, but there are places that are more
affordable. San Diego is great too.
--
Nom=de=Plume



Frogwatch[_2_] April 8th 10 08:20 PM

West Coast Sailing
 
On Apr 8, 1:33*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...
On Apr 8, 9:33 am, Loogypicker wrote:



On Apr 7, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message


....


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.


And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???
In the late 80s, I spent a lot of time in Santa Barbara, CA and
thought it was wonderful except you could not afford to live there.
The contrast between how I saw Santa Barbara and how Dana saw it in
"Two Years Before the Mast" was huge. *For him it was a difficult
place to land with no good anchorage and little civilization. *It was
one of his least favorite places whereas he really liked San Diego.


SB is wildly expensive, that's true, but there are places that are more
affordable. San Diego is great too.
--
Nom=de=Plume


When I was a kid and saw people swimming here in January, I asked my
mother what was wrong with them that they did not know it was cold.
She said, "other than being Canadian, nothing is wrong with them".

Frogwatch[_2_] April 8th 10 08:21 PM

West Coast Sailing
 
On Apr 8, 1:33*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...
On Apr 8, 9:33 am, Loogypicker wrote:



On Apr 7, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message


....


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.


And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???
In the late 80s, I spent a lot of time in Santa Barbara, CA and
thought it was wonderful except you could not afford to live there.
The contrast between how I saw Santa Barbara and how Dana saw it in
"Two Years Before the Mast" was huge. *For him it was a difficult
place to land with no good anchorage and little civilization. *It was
one of his least favorite places whereas he really liked San Diego.


SB is wildly expensive, that's true, but there are places that are more
affordable. San Diego is great too.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Wife and I almost considered living aboard a 27' Ericson with our year
old daughter in Santa Barbara, glad we didn't do it.

nom=de=plume April 8th 10 10:46 PM

West Coast Sailing
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Apr 8, 1:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...
On Apr 8, 9:33 am, Loogypicker wrote:



On Apr 7, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message


...


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW
on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up
the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of
us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.


And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???
In the late 80s, I spent a lot of time in Santa Barbara, CA and
thought it was wonderful except you could not afford to live there.
The contrast between how I saw Santa Barbara and how Dana saw it in
"Two Years Before the Mast" was huge. For him it was a difficult
place to land with no good anchorage and little civilization. It was
one of his least favorite places whereas he really liked San Diego.


SB is wildly expensive, that's true, but there are places that are more
affordable. San Diego is great too.
--
Nom=de=Plume


When I was a kid and saw people swimming here in January, I asked my
mother what was wrong with them that they did not know it was cold.
She said, "other than being Canadian, nothing is wrong with them".



Canadians are wimps compared to Icelanders... but I don't like cold water
for more than 10 - 15 minutes or so. Lake Tahoe is an acquired taste. I
don't mind cold weather, however.
--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume April 8th 10 10:48 PM

West Coast Sailing
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Apr 8, 1:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...
On Apr 8, 9:33 am, Loogypicker wrote:



On Apr 7, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message


...


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW
on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up
the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of
us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.


And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???
In the late 80s, I spent a lot of time in Santa Barbara, CA and
thought it was wonderful except you could not afford to live there.
The contrast between how I saw Santa Barbara and how Dana saw it in
"Two Years Before the Mast" was huge. For him it was a difficult
place to land with no good anchorage and little civilization. It was
one of his least favorite places whereas he really liked San Diego.


SB is wildly expensive, that's true, but there are places that are more
affordable. San Diego is great too.
--
Nom=de=Plume


Wife and I almost considered living aboard a 27' Ericson with our year
old daughter in Santa Barbara, glad we didn't do it.



Last I was there, I talked to a salty looking guy who just came out of the
slip area of the marina. I asked him how much it costs to keep a boat there,
and he reply, "Oh not that much." I pressed him for a ball-park and he said
his was $150K plus dues, but he had a big boat... that is wild.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Frogwatch April 8th 10 11:55 PM

West Coast Sailing
 
On Apr 8, 2:48*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...
On Apr 8, 1:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message


...
On Apr 8, 9:33 am, Loogypicker wrote:


On Apr 7, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message


...


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW
on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up
the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of
us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.


And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???
In the late 80s, I spent a lot of time in Santa Barbara, CA and
thought it was wonderful except you could not afford to live there.
The contrast between how I saw Santa Barbara and how Dana saw it in
"Two Years Before the Mast" was huge. For him it was a difficult
place to land with no good anchorage and little civilization. It was
one of his least favorite places whereas he really liked San Diego.


SB is wildly expensive, that's true, but there are places that are more
affordable. San Diego is great too.
--
Nom=de=Plume
Wife and I almost considered living aboard a 27' Ericson with our year
old daughter in Santa Barbara, glad we didn't do it.


Last I was there, I talked to a salty looking guy who just came out of the
slip area of the marina. I asked him how much it costs to keep a boat there,
and he reply, "Oh not that much." I pressed him for a ball-park and he said
his was $150K plus dues, but he had a big boat... that is wild.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I know a guy who keeps his boat in the water in SF. He pays more for
a slip than I do for my house.
I spent a lot of time in San Diego, nice town but to be anywhere near
the water is too expensive. Hanging out at LaJolla is nice but
expensive. Torrey Pines State Park is great though. Wife and kids
and I once walked south along the beach from Torrey Pines and came to
Blacks Beach. I got no prob with nude beaches, after all we have
sinkholes here for that, but it seems Blacks beach is used mostly by
Gay men,Not that there's anything wrong with that but you really do
not want your kids to see guys basically jerkin off in public. Today,
the kids remember the cool trail up the cliff at the glider port and
do not remember the nekkid men at all.
San Diego bay has more boats on a weekday than I see all year here in
N. FL.

nom=de=plume April 9th 10 01:10 AM

West Coast Sailing
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Apr 8, 2:48 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

...
On Apr 8, 1:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"Frogwatch" wrote in message


...
On Apr 8, 9:33 am, Loogypicker wrote:


On Apr 7, 9:03 am, "Don White" wrote:


"Frogwatch" wrote in message


...


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW
on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up
the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of
us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape
Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few & far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.


And this has WHAT to do with sailing up and down the WEST coast of the
continent???
In the late 80s, I spent a lot of time in Santa Barbara, CA and
thought it was wonderful except you could not afford to live there.
The contrast between how I saw Santa Barbara and how Dana saw it in
"Two Years Before the Mast" was huge. For him it was a difficult
place to land with no good anchorage and little civilization. It was
one of his least favorite places whereas he really liked San Diego.


SB is wildly expensive, that's true, but there are places that are more
affordable. San Diego is great too.
--
Nom=de=Plume
Wife and I almost considered living aboard a 27' Ericson with our year
old daughter in Santa Barbara, glad we didn't do it.


Last I was there, I talked to a salty looking guy who just came out of the
slip area of the marina. I asked him how much it costs to keep a boat
there,
and he reply, "Oh not that much." I pressed him for a ball-park and he
said
his was $150K plus dues, but he had a big boat... that is wild.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I know a guy who keeps his boat in the water in SF. He pays more for
a slip than I do for my house.

Reply: It must be either a big boat or you have an awfully small house. The
slip fees aren't that bad, according to my friends... not cheap, but not on
par with a mortgage payment of thousands.

I spent a lot of time in San Diego, nice town but to be anywhere near
the water is too expensive. Hanging out at LaJolla is nice but
expensive. Torrey Pines State Park is great though. Wife and kids
and I once walked south along the beach from Torrey Pines and came to
Blacks Beach. I got no prob with nude beaches, after all we have
sinkholes here for that, but it seems Blacks beach is used mostly by
Gay men,Not that there's anything wrong with that but you really do
not want your kids to see guys basically jerkin off in public. Today,
the kids remember the cool trail up the cliff at the glider port and
do not remember the nekkid men at all.
San Diego bay has more boats on a weekday than I see all year here in
N. FL.

Reply: I used to surf Swamis, Trestles, Wind-an-Sea, and Blacks mostly.
Surfed Pt. Loma, but it was a hassle. Never saw any particularly rude
behavior at Blacks at least not for very long, and it usually ended pretty
quickly when the locals saw what was happening. They were pretty protective
of local women. Mostly we had gawkers from the Glider Port. Every once in a
while one would get onto the beach, but they either were mellow or were
asked to leave (not too politely). I lived in Encinitas (mostly) and kept
the Hobie at my friends in Del Mar.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Larry[_13_] April 9th 10 01:40 AM

West Coast Sailing
 
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...

Don White wrote:

wrote in message
...


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.




How big is your sailboat, Don?

Try to keep up Dingy. I sold my sailboat& temporarly joined the ranks of
the infernal combustion crowd in the fall of 2007.



2-1/2 years ago? I wasn't here and I certainly wouldn't have saved any
of those posts.

You seem to like adolescent name-calling did you learn it from anyone here?

Larry[_13_] April 9th 10 01:42 AM

West Coast Sailing
 
anon-e-moose wrote:
Larry wrote:
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...

Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?
Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape
Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere at
minimal or no cost for the night.


How big is your sailboat, Don?


http://www.sandpiper565.com/



I can't believe that tiny boat has a berth! Who would sleep in that? I
saw the term micro-cruiser yet it sleeps four? Where?

Frogwatch April 9th 10 01:46 AM

West Coast Sailing
 
On Apr 8, 5:42*pm, Larry wrote:
anon-e-moose wrote:
Larry wrote:
Don White wrote:
*wrote in message
....


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? *Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?
Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape
Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& *far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere at
minimal or no cost for the night.


How big is your sailboat, Don?


http://www.sandpiper565.com/


I can't believe that tiny boat has a berth! *Who would sleep in that? *I
saw the term micro-cruiser yet it sleeps four? *Where?


My friend had a slip right at the base of the Golden Gate Bridge,
kinda expensive. Here in N. FL, one can get a good house very cheap
and I bought when they were really cheap so my mortgage is probably
about 1/4 of the least expensive place you could get in SF.

Don White April 9th 10 02:25 AM

West Coast Sailing
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...

Don White wrote:

wrote in message
...


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.




How big is your sailboat, Don?

Try to keep up Dingy. I sold my sailboat& temporarly joined the ranks
of
the infernal combustion crowd in the fall of 2007.



2-1/2 years ago? I wasn't here and I certainly wouldn't have saved any of
those posts.

You seem to like adolescent name-calling did you learn it from anyone
here?


Yeah...from the counter guy at Elite Contractors Supply.



Don White April 9th 10 02:27 AM

West Coast Sailing
 

"Larry" wrote in message
...
anon-e-moose wrote:
Larry wrote:
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?
Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.


How big is your sailboat, Don?


http://www.sandpiper565.com/



I can't believe that tiny boat has a berth! Who would sleep in that? I
saw the term micro-cruiser yet it sleeps four? Where?


I spent a three night weekend in it. Up here we like to snuggle with our
women....I suppose in your case they try to pull as far away as possible.



hk April 9th 10 12:40 PM

West Coast Sailing
 
On 4/8/10 9:25 PM, Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...

Don White wrote:

wrote in message
...


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.




How big is your sailboat, Don?

Try to keep up Dingy. I sold my sailboat& temporarly joined the ranks
of
the infernal combustion crowd in the fall of 2007.



2-1/2 years ago? I wasn't here and I certainly wouldn't have saved any of
those posts.

You seem to like adolescent name-calling did you learn it from anyone
here?


Yeah...from the counter guy at Elite Contractors Supply.



This "Larry" suffers from multiple personality disorder. One week he's
Krueger, then he's Bob, then he's Larry...I guess his wife tells him by
the smell, which doesn't change.

--
http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

Don White April 9th 10 12:48 PM

West Coast Sailing
 

"hk" wrote in message
m...
On 4/8/10 9:25 PM, Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...

Don White wrote:

wrote in message
...


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW
on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up
the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of
us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.




How big is your sailboat, Don?

Try to keep up Dingy. I sold my sailboat& temporarly joined the
ranks
of
the infernal combustion crowd in the fall of 2007.



2-1/2 years ago? I wasn't here and I certainly wouldn't have saved any
of
those posts.

You seem to like adolescent name-calling did you learn it from anyone
here?


Yeah...from the counter guy at Elite Contractors Supply.



This "Larry" suffers from multiple personality disorder. One week he's
Krueger, then he's Bob, then he's Larry...I guess his wife tells him by
the smell, which doesn't change.


~~ Snerk ~~



hk April 9th 10 01:18 PM

West Coast Sailing
 
On 4/9/10 7:48 AM, Don White wrote:
wrote in message
m...
On 4/8/10 9:25 PM, Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...

Don White wrote:

wrote in message
...


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW
on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up
the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of
us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.




How big is your sailboat, Don?

Try to keep up Dingy. I sold my sailboat& temporarly joined the
ranks
of
the infernal combustion crowd in the fall of 2007.



2-1/2 years ago? I wasn't here and I certainly wouldn't have saved any
of
those posts.

You seem to like adolescent name-calling did you learn it from anyone
here?

Yeah...from the counter guy at Elite Contractors Supply.



This "Larry" suffers from multiple personality disorder. One week he's
Krueger, then he's Bob, then he's Larry...I guess his wife tells him by
the smell, which doesn't change.


~~ Snerk ~~




You have to wonder once in a while why losers like "Krueger," "FlaJim,"
"Loogy," "Snotty," et al, feel compelled to completely change their IDs
here more often than they change their underwear. I admit to using
variations of my name or initials, but I'm still "HK" and I'm not
pretending to be someone else.

Then, of course, we have the "anonymous" posters, who come here only to
insult other posters, preferably those who are less anonymous. These are
the twerps who just know if they were identifiable, they'd be punched in
the nose every day by those they insulted. Top Bass, JCP, et cetera, et
cetera, et cetera.

And, finally, the ID spoofers...who have nothing to add to any discussion.





--
Conservatives - just pretend Obama's health care legislation is another
unnecessary war and you'll feel better about it.

Loogypicker[_2_] April 9th 10 01:29 PM

West Coast Sailing
 
On Apr 9, 8:18*am, hk wrote:
On 4/9/10 7:48 AM, Don White wrote:





*wrote in message
om...
On 4/8/10 9:25 PM, Don White wrote:
* wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
* *wrote in message
news:DMadnUl1CYtutiDWnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@giganew s.com...


Don White wrote:


* * wrote in message
...


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW
on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up
the
coast? *Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of
us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& * * far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.


How big is your sailboat, Don?


Try to keep up Dingy. *I sold my sailboat& * *temporarly joined the
ranks
of
the infernal combustion crowd in the fall of 2007.


2-1/2 years ago? *I wasn't here and I certainly wouldn't have saved any
of
those posts.


You seem to like adolescent name-calling did you learn it from anyone
here?


Yeah...from the counter guy at Elite Contractors Supply.


This "Larry" suffers from multiple personality disorder. One week he's
Krueger, then he's Bob, then he's Larry...I guess his wife tells him by
the smell, which doesn't change.


~~ Snerk ~~


You have to wonder once in a while why losers like "Krueger," "FlaJim,"
"Loogy," "Snotty," et al, feel compelled to completely change their IDs
here more often than they change their underwear. I admit to using
variations of my name or initials, but I'm still "HK" and I'm not
pretending to be someone else.

Then, of course, we have the "anonymous" posters, who come here only to
insult other posters, preferably those who are less anonymous. These are
the twerps who just know if they were identifiable, they'd be punched in
the nose every day by those they insulted. Top Bass, JCP, et cetera, et
cetera, et cetera.

And, finally, the ID spoofers...who have nothing to add to any discussion..

--
Conservatives - just pretend Obama's health care legislation is another
unnecessary war and you'll feel better about it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Right, Harry, I mean hk, I mean H the K, I mean H-K.

Loogypicker[_2_] April 9th 10 01:30 PM

West Coast Sailing
 
On Apr 8, 8:40*pm, Larry wrote:
Don White wrote:
*wrote in message
m...


Don White wrote:


* wrote in message
....


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? *Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton, but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& * far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.


How big is your sailboat, Don?


Try to keep up Dingy. *I sold my sailboat& *temporarly joined the ranks of
the infernal combustion crowd in the fall of 2007.


2-1/2 years ago? *I wasn't here and I certainly wouldn't have saved any
of those posts.

You seem to like adolescent name-calling did you learn it from anyone here?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Harry taught him how

hk April 9th 10 01:36 PM

West Coast Sailing
 
On 4/9/10 8:29 AM, Loogypicker wrote:
On Apr 9, 8:18 am, wrote:
On 4/9/10 7:48 AM, Don White wrote:





wrote in message
m...
On 4/8/10 9:25 PM, Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...


Don White wrote:


wrote in message
...


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW
on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up
the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of
us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.


How big is your sailboat, Don?


Try to keep up Dingy. I sold my sailboat& temporarly joined the
ranks
of
the infernal combustion crowd in the fall of 2007.


2-1/2 years ago? I wasn't here and I certainly wouldn't have saved any
of
those posts.


You seem to like adolescent name-calling did you learn it from anyone
here?


Yeah...from the counter guy at Elite Contractors Supply.


This "Larry" suffers from multiple personality disorder. One week he's
Krueger, then he's Bob, then he's Larry...I guess his wife tells him by
the smell, which doesn't change.


~~ Snerk ~~


You have to wonder once in a while why losers like "Krueger," "FlaJim,"
"Loogy," "Snotty," et al, feel compelled to completely change their IDs
here more often than they change their underwear. I admit to using
variations of my name or initials, but I'm still "HK" and I'm not
pretending to be someone else.

Then, of course, we have the "anonymous" posters, who come here only to
insult other posters, preferably those who are less anonymous. These are
the twerps who just know if they were identifiable, they'd be punched in
the nose every day by those they insulted. Top Bass, JCP, et cetera, et
cetera, et cetera.

And, finally, the ID spoofers...who have nothing to add to any discussion.

--
Conservatives - just pretend Obama's health care legislation is another
unnecessary war and you'll feel better about it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Right, Harry, I mean hk, I mean H the K, I mean H-K.




Exactly. As I stated, "I admit to using
variations of my name or initials, but I'm still "HK" and I'm not
pretending to be someone else."

Christ, I can't imagine how horrifying it must be to get up in the
morning, look in the mirror, and see your dumb face looking back.
Loogy...at the moment, the dumbest poster in rec.boats.






--
http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

Loogypicker[_2_] April 9th 10 02:00 PM

West Coast Sailing
 
On Apr 9, 8:36*am, hk wrote:
On 4/9/10 8:29 AM, Loogypicker wrote:





On Apr 9, 8:18 am, *wrote:
On 4/9/10 7:48 AM, Don White wrote:


* *wrote in message
news:WfKdnT_b3LSojyLWnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@earthlink .com...
On 4/8/10 9:25 PM, Don White wrote:
* * wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
* * *wrote in message
news:DMadnUl1CYtutiDWnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@gigan ews.com...


Don White wrote:


* * * wrote in message
...


Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW
on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up
the
coast? *Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?


Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of
us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& * * * far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.


How big is your sailboat, Don?


Try to keep up Dingy. *I sold my sailboat& * * *temporarly joined the
ranks
of
the infernal combustion crowd in the fall of 2007.


2-1/2 years ago? *I wasn't here and I certainly wouldn't have saved any
of
those posts.


You seem to like adolescent name-calling did you learn it from anyone
here?


Yeah...from the counter guy at Elite Contractors Supply.


This "Larry" suffers from multiple personality disorder. One week he's
Krueger, then he's Bob, then he's Larry...I guess his wife tells him by
the smell, which doesn't change.


~~ Snerk ~~


You have to wonder once in a while why losers like "Krueger," "FlaJim,"
"Loogy," "Snotty," et al, feel compelled to completely change their IDs
here more often than they change their underwear. I admit to using
variations of my name or initials, but I'm still "HK" and I'm not
pretending to be someone else.


Then, of course, we have the "anonymous" posters, who come here only to
insult other posters, preferably those who are less anonymous. These are
the twerps who just know if they were identifiable, they'd be punched in
the nose every day by those they insulted. Top Bass, JCP, et cetera, et
cetera, et cetera.


And, finally, the ID spoofers...who have nothing to add to any discussion.


--
Conservatives - just pretend Obama's health care legislation is another
unnecessary war and you'll feel better about it.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Right, Harry, I mean hk, I mean H the K, I mean H-K.


Exactly. As I stated, "I admit to using
variations of my name or initials, but I'm still "HK" and I'm not
pretending to be someone else."


And deflection in 3.....2.......1

Christ, I can't imagine how horrifying it must be to get up in the
morning, look in the mirror, and see your dumb face looking back.
Loogy...at the moment, the dumbest poster in rec.boats.


Again, at least I don't have to lie about my education, my life, and
my wife......but YOU do...


John H[_2_] April 9th 10 02:12 PM

West Coast Sailing
 
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:27:13 -0300, "Don White" wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
...
anon-e-moose wrote:
Larry wrote:
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?
Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.


How big is your sailboat, Don?

http://www.sandpiper565.com/



I can't believe that tiny boat has a berth! Who would sleep in that? I
saw the term micro-cruiser yet it sleeps four? Where?


I spent a three night weekend in it. Up here we like to snuggle with our
women....I suppose in your case they try to pull as far away as possible.


How's your mom, Don?

Don White April 9th 10 03:09 PM

West Coast Sailing
 

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010 22:27:13 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"Larry" wrote in message
...
anon-e-moose wrote:
Larry wrote:
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW
on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up
the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?
Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of
us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay
anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.


How big is your sailboat, Don?

http://www.sandpiper565.com/



I can't believe that tiny boat has a berth! Who would sleep in that? I
saw the term micro-cruiser yet it sleeps four? Where?


I spent a three night weekend in it. Up here we like to snuggle with our
women....I suppose in your case they try to pull as far away as possible.


How's your mom, Don?


Just fine Johnny.
We're already thinking of plans for a trip to Cape Breton this summer.
She really perks up when I talk about it.



Larry[_13_] April 10th 10 03:04 AM

West Coast Sailing
 
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...

Don White wrote:

wrote in message
...


Don White wrote:


wrote in message
...



Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?



Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.





How big is your sailboat, Don?


Try to keep up Dingy. I sold my sailboat& temporarly joined the ranks
of
the infernal combustion crowd in the fall of 2007.




2-1/2 years ago? I wasn't here and I certainly wouldn't have saved any of
those posts.

You seem to like adolescent name-calling did you learn it from anyone
here?

Yeah...from the counter guy at Elite Contractors Supply.



Sure. That's it.

Larry[_13_] April 10th 10 03:05 AM

West Coast Sailing
 
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...

anon-e-moose wrote:

Larry wrote:

Don White wrote:

wrote in message
...

Nom should know about this.
Without any protected way to get from point A to B such as the ICW on
the east and Gulf coasts, isnt it a bit difficult to sail north up the
coast? Do people sail northwards near shore or do they all go
WAAAAAAAY offshore?

Since the Gulf Stream turns westward two hundred miles south of us...we
don't have that worry.
The Labrador current may affect boats up around northern Cape Breton,
but
that's what we have the Bras d'Or lakes for.
Along our 'mainland' coast, people sail where they want to...out far
enough
to avoid dangerous areas but not so far that ducking into numerous
small
harbours for the night is difficult or time consuming.
You'd fit right in up here Froggy...the nicer marinas are few& far
between
along the coast but every small community has a government wharf for
the
commercial fishermen. If you like roughin' it...you could stay anywhere
at
minimal or no cost for the night.



How big is your sailboat, Don?

http://www.sandpiper565.com/




I can't believe that tiny boat has a berth! Who would sleep in that? I
saw the term micro-cruiser yet it sleeps four? Where?

I spent a three night weekend in it. Up here we like to snuggle with our
women....I suppose in your case they try to pull as far away as possible.



Four people or two?


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