On 3/31/10 3:18 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...


You're the one to decide what's a sniffle or cold? I think I'd rather
have my doctor decide.


--
Nom=de=Plume


I am 60 years old. My parents and my wife and I (with our kids) did a
pretty good job determining what required a doctor's attention and what
required a day home from school to rest.
Now-a-days the parents don't want that responsibility because it only
costs a $10 co-pay to run to the doctor.

That's what I am talking about. Not serious injuries or illnesses.

Eisboch


Ahh, but you are a reasonably educated, wealthy, white guy who worked
and got many of the advantages life has to offer. You're far more
sophisticated in the matters under discussion than tens of millions of
Americans. What works for you intellectually isn't going to work for
boobus Americanus, necessarily. The short version: a lot of parents do
not have the ability to differentiate between a low fever and a fever
that might indicate something serious.





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"hk" wrote in message
m...
On 3/31/10 3:18 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...


You're the one to decide what's a sniffle or cold? I think I'd rather
have my doctor decide.


--
Nom=de=Plume


I am 60 years old. My parents and my wife and I (with our kids) did a
pretty good job determining what required a doctor's attention and what
required a day home from school to rest.
Now-a-days the parents don't want that responsibility because it only
costs a $10 co-pay to run to the doctor.

That's what I am talking about. Not serious injuries or illnesses.

Eisboch


Ahh, but you are a reasonably educated, wealthy, white guy who worked and
got many of the advantages life has to offer. You're far more
sophisticated in the matters under discussion than tens of millions of
Americans. What works for you intellectually isn't going to work for
boobus Americanus, necessarily. The short version: a lot of parents do not
have the ability to differentiate between a low fever and a fever that
might indicate something serious.


Hmmmm... makes you wonder. But ..
Any financial advantage I may enjoy was arrived at later in life .... after
turning 50.
No, I just had responsible parents and, more to Mrs.E's credit than mine,
our kids had responsible parents. Neither one of us are rocket scientists.

Eisboch

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:44:30 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
om...
On 3/31/10 3:18 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...


You're the one to decide what's a sniffle or cold? I think I'd rather
have my doctor decide.


--
Nom=de=Plume


I am 60 years old. My parents and my wife and I (with our kids) did a
pretty good job determining what required a doctor's attention and what
required a day home from school to rest.
Now-a-days the parents don't want that responsibility because it only
costs a $10 co-pay to run to the doctor.

That's what I am talking about. Not serious injuries or illnesses.

Eisboch


Ahh, but you are a reasonably educated, wealthy, white guy who worked and
got many of the advantages life has to offer. You're far more
sophisticated in the matters under discussion than tens of millions of
Americans. What works for you intellectually isn't going to work for
boobus Americanus, necessarily. The short version: a lot of parents do not
have the ability to differentiate between a low fever and a fever that
might indicate something serious.


Hmmmm... makes you wonder. But ..
Any financial advantage I may enjoy was arrived at later in life .... after
turning 50.
No, I just had responsible parents and, more to Mrs.E's credit than mine,
our kids had responsible parents. Neither one of us are rocket scientists.

Eisboch

I employ a rocket scientist and he doesn't take any better care of his
kids than we do...

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:44:30 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
om...
On 3/31/10 3:18 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...


You're the one to decide what's a sniffle or cold? I think I'd rather
have my doctor decide.


--
Nom=de=Plume


I am 60 years old. My parents and my wife and I (with our kids) did a
pretty good job determining what required a doctor's attention and what
required a day home from school to rest.
Now-a-days the parents don't want that responsibility because it only
costs a $10 co-pay to run to the doctor.

That's what I am talking about. Not serious injuries or illnesses.

Eisboch


Ahh, but you are a reasonably educated, wealthy, white guy who worked and
got many of the advantages life has to offer. You're far more
sophisticated in the matters under discussion than tens of millions of
Americans. What works for you intellectually isn't going to work for
boobus Americanus, necessarily. The short version: a lot of parents do not
have the ability to differentiate between a low fever and a fever that
might indicate something serious.


Hmmmm... makes you wonder. But ..
Any financial advantage I may enjoy was arrived at later in life .... after
turning 50.
No, I just had responsible parents and, more to Mrs.E's credit than mine,
our kids had responsible parents. Neither one of us are rocket scientists.

Eisboch

I employ a rocket scientist and he doesn't take any better care of his
kids than we do...

I do like the "can't see the forest for the trees" cliche, because it so
often fits well.
I interject my comment here, because I don't want to burden Mr. Eisboch
with the thought involved in mocking my name.
And it relates to the "forest for the trees" cliche quite well.
I have heard two phrases countless times from Republican resistors of
the recently passed health care bill.
"Can't afford it."
"Don't want the government coming between the patient and his doctor."

To the first point, apparently Mr. Eisboch does not believe that regular
visits to a doctor leads to less health care costs in the end.
This is somewhat akin to never doing preventative maintenance on an
automobile. And thinking that is cost efficient.
But I don't choose to argue that now.
What I find most insufferable in Mr. Eisboch's mantra is the second
point:
He is so arrogant to think HE should come between the doctor and his
patient.
That fact, evidenced by his virtually writing health care prescriptions
for others right here in this news group, is insulting to anybody who
actually sees a doctor, and to 99% of health care providers.
Perhaps others are too kind to mention this to Mr Eisboch, who seems an
otherwise reasonable man when not toeing the Republican party line.
In any case, I can still respect Mr. Eisboch's view on other matters he
speaks on, and where he shows logic and plain common sense.
For certain, he stands above many here who choose to cuss, cry,
lie, demean and spoof the names and families of others.
I've already forgiven Mr. Eisboch the mocking of my name, which was an
understandable lapse in judgment.
I implore others here to endeavor to speak in kind terms whenever
possible, and not allow petty differences of politics to come between
the friendship and camaraderie most boaters desire.
Mr Schnautz serves well as an example of civil conduct here, and can
stand as a fine exemplar.
A man's character is best known by the number of his friends, not his
enemies.

"Peter (Yes, that one)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:44:30 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
om...
On 3/31/10 3:18 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...


You're the one to decide what's a sniffle or cold? I think I'd
rather
have my doctor decide.


--
Nom=de=Plume


I am 60 years old. My parents and my wife and I (with our kids) did a
pretty good job determining what required a doctor's attention and
what
required a day home from school to rest.
Now-a-days the parents don't want that responsibility because it only
costs a $10 co-pay to run to the doctor.

That's what I am talking about. Not serious injuries or illnesses.

Eisboch


Ahh, but you are a reasonably educated, wealthy, white guy who worked
and
got many of the advantages life has to offer. You're far more
sophisticated in the matters under discussion than tens of millions of
Americans. What works for you intellectually isn't going to work for
boobus Americanus, necessarily. The short version: a lot of parents do
not
have the ability to differentiate between a low fever and a fever that
might indicate something serious.


Hmmmm... makes you wonder. But ..
Any financial advantage I may enjoy was arrived at later in life ....
after
turning 50.
No, I just had responsible parents and, more to Mrs.E's credit than
mine,
our kids had responsible parents. Neither one of us are rocket
scientists.

Eisboch

I employ a rocket scientist and he doesn't take any better care of his
kids than we do...

I do like the "can't see the forest for the trees" cliche, because it so
often fits well.
I interject my comment here, because I don't want to burden Mr. Eisboch
with the thought involved in mocking my name.
And it relates to the "forest for the trees" cliche quite well.
I have heard two phrases countless times from Republican resistors of
the recently passed health care bill.
"Can't afford it."
"Don't want the government coming between the patient and his doctor."

To the first point, apparently Mr. Eisboch does not believe that regular
visits to a doctor leads to less health care costs in the end.
This is somewhat akin to never doing preventative maintenance on an
automobile. And thinking that is cost efficient.
But I don't choose to argue that now.
What I find most insufferable in Mr. Eisboch's mantra is the second
point:
He is so arrogant to think HE should come between the doctor and his
patient.
That fact, evidenced by his virtually writing health care prescriptions
for others right here in this news group, is insulting to anybody who
actually sees a doctor, and to 99% of health care providers.
Perhaps others are too kind to mention this to Mr Eisboch, who seems an
otherwise reasonable man when not toeing the Republican party line.
In any case, I can still respect Mr. Eisboch's view on other matters he
speaks on, and where he shows logic and plain common sense.
For certain, he stands above many here who choose to cuss, cry,
lie, demean and spoof the names and families of others.
I've already forgiven Mr. Eisboch the mocking of my name, which was an
understandable lapse in judgment.
I implore others here to endeavor to speak in kind terms whenever
possible, and not allow petty differences of politics to come between
the friendship and camaraderie most boaters desire.
Mr Schnautz serves well as an example of civil conduct here, and can
stand as a fine exemplar.
A man's character is best known by the number of his friends, not his
enemies.


I've survived 60 years of jokes and snerks regarding my nickname (Dick). I
am sure you can handle it.
But, just for the record .... where exactly did I "mock" your name?

I recall writing "Prick (or whatever your name is)". I did so because I
suspected (and still do) that you are in reality another person who used to
post here regularly.

Eisboch

In article ,
says...


I've survived 60 years of jokes and snerks regarding my nickname (Dick). I
am sure you can handle it.

I've done well enough. There have been times though....

But, just for the record .... where exactly did I "mock" your name?

I recall writing "Prick (or whatever your name is)". I did so because I
suspected (and still do) that you are in reality another person who used to
post here regularly.


I take at face value your saying you were not mocking my name, and
apologize for criticizing you unfairly.
As to my name, you can suspect what you will.
I have given a brief history of my family name in reply to Mr. Schnautz.
I am always exactly who I claim to be.
Years ago - at least a decade - I made some number of posts to various
groups, and some may have been cross posted here.
You might find some by looking for "Peter" or "Pete."
But I don't remember what I posted. I was often drunk.
I did not use the Prick family name then. Too many fights.
I only recently "rediscovered" usenet and after browsing this group
found it an interesting study in newsgroup dynamics.
I was initially interested in buying another boat, but that desire has
dissipated somewhat after reading this group, which might be more
appropriately called rec.anything.but.boats.
Doesn't matter really. There is a wide variety of personalities here,
spanning the wacko spectrum.
I like that, as it reflects real life.
Hopefully, I can get along here, and make a few pals.
Then when I get a boat, organize some raft ups.
Wouldn't it, after all, be a delightful sight to behold Harry, Loogy,
John, and Scotty sitting around a shore site campfire, singing "Michael
Rowed the Boat Ashore," with Loogy and Scotty doing the chorus while
strumming their Fenders, John singing bass, Harry singing tenor?
Maybe Froggy could do some background croaking for atmosphere if no real
frogs are calling, and jps could cuss sotto voce, adding a bit of
rhythm.
There are many, many arrangement possibilities.
I think that's an admirable goal for a group participant to strive for,
and that's the type of boater I would like to be.
I'm sure many here agree with my get-along sentiments.
They just don't want to come out of the protective shells they have
constructed around themselves.
But they are basically good people.
Just takes a little sing-along to bring the good elements out.
A few cases of beer helps too.
But sing-along to get-along is a good motto.
I sure hope Jesse Jackson never said that.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:20:54 -0500, "Peter (Yes, that one)"
wrote:

In article ,
says...


I've survived 60 years of jokes and snerks regarding my nickname (Dick). I
am sure you can handle it.

I've done well enough. There have been times though....

But, just for the record .... where exactly did I "mock" your name?

I recall writing "Prick (or whatever your name is)". I did so because I
suspected (and still do) that you are in reality another person who used to
post here regularly.


I take at face value your saying you were not mocking my name, and
apologize for criticizing you unfairly.
As to my name, you can suspect what you will.
I have given a brief history of my family name in reply to Mr. Schnautz.
I am always exactly who I claim to be.
Years ago - at least a decade - I made some number of posts to various
groups, and some may have been cross posted here.
You might find some by looking for "Peter" or "Pete."
But I don't remember what I posted. I was often drunk.
I did not use the Prick family name then. Too many fights.
I only recently "rediscovered" usenet and after browsing this group
found it an interesting study in newsgroup dynamics.
I was initially interested in buying another boat, but that desire has
dissipated somewhat after reading this group, which might be more
appropriately called rec.anything.but.boats.
Doesn't matter really. There is a wide variety of personalities here,
spanning the wacko spectrum.
I like that, as it reflects real life.
Hopefully, I can get along here, and make a few pals.
Then when I get a boat, organize some raft ups.
Wouldn't it, after all, be a delightful sight to behold Harry, Loogy,
John, and Scotty sitting around a shore site campfire, singing "Michael
Rowed the Boat Ashore," with Loogy and Scotty doing the chorus while
strumming their Fenders, John singing bass, Harry singing tenor?
Maybe Froggy could do some background croaking for atmosphere if no real
frogs are calling, and jps could cuss sotto voce, adding a bit of
rhythm.
There are many, many arrangement possibilities.
I think that's an admirable goal for a group participant to strive for,
and that's the type of boater I would like to be.
I'm sure many here agree with my get-along sentiments.
They just don't want to come out of the protective shells they have
constructed around themselves.
But they are basically good people.
Just takes a little sing-along to bring the good elements out.
A few cases of beer helps too.
But sing-along to get-along is a good motto.
I sure hope Jesse Jackson never said that.

That's an adimrable goal but I'd recommend TSA be contracted to
provide metal and explosives detection.

Peter (Yes, that one) wrote:
In article ,
says...

I've survived 60 years of jokes and snerks regarding my nickname (Dick). I
am sure you can handle it.

I've done well enough. There have been times though....

But, just for the record .... where exactly did I "mock" your name?

I recall writing "Prick (or whatever your name is)". I did so because I
suspected (and still do) that you are in reality another person who used to
post here regularly.

And Eisboch suspects correctly that Peter Francis Shortwave Harry Tom
Larry Jim Scott Sportfishing Prick has been very busy spoofing the
screen names of others the past several weeks. Shame on him for
disrupting the harmony of rec.boats

In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...


I've survived 60 years of jokes and snerks regarding my nickname (Dick). I
am sure you can handle it.

I've done well enough. There have been times though....

But, just for the record .... where exactly did I "mock" your name?

I recall writing "Prick (or whatever your name is)". I did so because I
suspected (and still do) that you are in reality another person who used to
post here regularly.


I take at face value your saying you were not mocking my name, and
apologize for criticizing you unfairly.
As to my name, you can suspect what you will.
I have given a brief history of my family name in reply to Mr. Schnautz.
I am always exactly who I claim to be.
Years ago - at least a decade - I made some number of posts to various
groups, and some may have been cross posted here.
You might find some by looking for "Peter" or "Pete."
But I don't remember what I posted. I was often drunk.
I did not use the Prick family name then. Too many fights.
I only recently "rediscovered" usenet and after browsing this group
found it an interesting study in newsgroup dynamics.
I was initially interested in buying another boat, but that desire has
dissipated somewhat after reading this group, which might be more
appropriately called rec.anything.but.boats.
Doesn't matter really. There is a wide variety of personalities here,
spanning the wacko spectrum.
I like that, as it reflects real life.
Hopefully, I can get along here, and make a few pals.
Then when I get a boat, organize some raft ups.
Wouldn't it, after all, be a delightful sight to behold Harry, Loogy,
John, and Scotty sitting around a shore site campfire, singing "Michael
Rowed the Boat Ashore," with Loogy and Scotty doing the chorus while
strumming their Fenders, John singing bass, Harry singing tenor?
Maybe Froggy could do some background croaking for atmosphere if no real
frogs are calling, and jps could cuss sotto voce, adding a bit of
rhythm.
There are many, many arrangement possibilities.
I think that's an admirable goal for a group participant to strive for,
and that's the type of boater I would like to be.
I'm sure many here agree with my get-along sentiments.
They just don't want to come out of the protective shells they have
constructed around themselves.
But they are basically good people.
Just takes a little sing-along to bring the good elements out.
A few cases of beer helps too.
But sing-along to get-along is a good motto.
I sure hope Jesse Jackson never said that.

What a long bull**** story...

Scotty

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For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

"Peter (Yes, that one)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:44:30 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
om...
On 3/31/10 3:18 PM, Eisboch wrote:

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...


You're the one to decide what's a sniffle or cold? I think I'd
rather
have my doctor decide.


--
Nom=de=Plume


I am 60 years old. My parents and my wife and I (with our kids) did a
pretty good job determining what required a doctor's attention and
what
required a day home from school to rest.
Now-a-days the parents don't want that responsibility because it only
costs a $10 co-pay to run to the doctor.

That's what I am talking about. Not serious injuries or illnesses.

Eisboch


Ahh, but you are a reasonably educated, wealthy, white guy who worked
and
got many of the advantages life has to offer. You're far more
sophisticated in the matters under discussion than tens of millions of
Americans. What works for you intellectually isn't going to work for
boobus Americanus, necessarily. The short version: a lot of parents do
not
have the ability to differentiate between a low fever and a fever that
might indicate something serious.


Hmmmm... makes you wonder. But ..
Any financial advantage I may enjoy was arrived at later in life ....
after
turning 50.
No, I just had responsible parents and, more to Mrs.E's credit than
mine,
our kids had responsible parents. Neither one of us are rocket
scientists.

Eisboch

I employ a rocket scientist and he doesn't take any better care of his
kids than we do...

I do like the "can't see the forest for the trees" cliche, because it so
often fits well.
I interject my comment here, because I don't want to burden Mr. Eisboch
with the thought involved in mocking my name.
And it relates to the "forest for the trees" cliche quite well.
I have heard two phrases countless times from Republican resistors of
the recently passed health care bill.
"Can't afford it."
"Don't want the government coming between the patient and his doctor."

To the first point, apparently Mr. Eisboch does not believe that regular
visits to a doctor leads to less health care costs in the end.
This is somewhat akin to never doing preventative maintenance on an
automobile. And thinking that is cost efficient.
But I don't choose to argue that now.
What I find most insufferable in Mr. Eisboch's mantra is the second
point:
He is so arrogant to think HE should come between the doctor and his
patient.
That fact, evidenced by his virtually writing health care prescriptions
for others right here in this news group, is insulting to anybody who
actually sees a doctor, and to 99% of health care providers.
Perhaps others are too kind to mention this to Mr Eisboch, who seems an
otherwise reasonable man when not toeing the Republican party line.
In any case, I can still respect Mr. Eisboch's view on other matters he
speaks on, and where he shows logic and plain common sense.
For certain, he stands above many here who choose to cuss, cry,
lie, demean and spoof the names and families of others.
I've already forgiven Mr. Eisboch the mocking of my name, which was an
understandable lapse in judgment.
I implore others here to endeavor to speak in kind terms whenever
possible, and not allow petty differences of politics to come between
the friendship and camaraderie most boaters desire.
Mr Schnautz serves well as an example of civil conduct here, and can
stand as a fine exemplar.
A man's character is best known by the number of his friends, not his
enemies.



I believe preventive care is part of the new law.

--
Nom=de=Plume