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Canuck57[_9_] March 29th 10 01:57 PM

Bliues deny coverage to ill newborn baby
 
On 28/03/2010 7:25 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 28/03/2010 5:19 PM, hk wrote:
Boston (SmartAboutHealth) - A ruthless health insurance company denied
coverage to an ill newborn baby in Texas, resulting in the death of the
young boy.

Houston Tracy was born in Crowley, Texas, and unfortunately only lived
for a total of 10-days after he was denied coverage by BlueCross
BlueShield of Texas.

The baby boy was born with a condition that is known as
d-transformation. This is diagnosed when there is a transposition of the
heart’s great arteries.

This can be fixed, but a major surgery is needed, one that the insurance
company would not pay for.

The baby boy was born on March 15th with what BlueCross BlueShield of
Texas deemed a pre-existing condition.

Since they considered his disease as this, they refused to cover the
health care of the baby boy.

What this meant is that the boy was not able to get the surgery, and
unfortunately died less than two weeks after being born.

Could you imagine what it felt like for his parents, Doug and Kim Tracy,
to be told that their son was not going to be covered?

This is an absolute tragedy to say the least and one which health
insurance companies should be absolutely embarrassed about.

Under the new health care initiative from President Barack Obama, health
insurance companies will no longer be able to deny coverage to infants
due to “pre-existing conditions.”

- -

What the Blues are practicing is "Republican" health insurance...you
know, the right to life until you are born and then...buzz off.


So let me ask, if this was a precondition, did they jump on health care
after getting the ultrasound that showed defects? You know, subscribe by
convenience? That is, not subscribe until they needed it freeloading?

Sorry, the parents here are to blame. They should have being paying up
long before even getting knocked up.

Just the kind that should have a 40% flat tax on their income unless they
can show health care coverage as to prevent their attempt at abusing the
system. Then perhaps your rates will not go up so quick.

Too bad you couldn't charge the parents for wreckless welshing.

If on the other hand Blue Cross was in force before conception, let them
sue the asses off of Blue Cross. I would give them $100 million if this
were the case. But I suspect it is not the case.

This really smells like taking out a life insurance policy after death has
occured. Some people still call it fraud.

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Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.



you're really sick but even you shouldn't be denied care



You could also look at it as Obama has trillions for banks, bailouts but
nothing for the babies. LMAO. Been in office for 15 months and nothing
has changed.

Keep worship your free lunch and Obama, T'il debt do you part...


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Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.

Eisboch March 29th 10 02:12 PM

Bliues deny coverage to ill newborn baby
 

"hk" wrote in message
m...

I think " necessary health care" and "subsidized health care insurance"
are
two different things.

Eisboch



No "other words" are needed. I believe health insurance or a national
health plan should be mandatory, and if you legitimately cannot afford the
insurance, it should be subsidized for you and your family to the degree
necessary.


The hang-up I still have is the difference between a mandatory health
insurance program and the right to free or subsidized (tax supported) health
care for life threatening or disabling conditions. Mandatory health
insurance puts another massive layer of bureaucracy, private or government,
into the mix. When it comes to getting care, that has never been a good
thing.

A mandatory health insurance law is in effect here in MA. For those who
can't afford the subsidized insurance (state programs) it is cheaper to pay
the fine (assuming the state even enforces the collection of them, which I
doubt.)

Tough call. I guess my attitude is that those of us that are fortunate
enough to be able to afford decent health insurance also have a moral
obligation to assist those who need medical care (though a tax or increased
insurance premium) for those who cannot afford insurance. But to subsidize
health *insurance* programs is another matter.

Eisboch



Jim March 29th 10 02:20 PM

Bliues deny coverage to ill newborn baby
 
BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...
"hk" wrote in message
m...
What could be more pathetic than an asshole like Scotty here whining about
health care insurance when he doesn't have any and as a result racked up a
$25,000 bill at a local hospital that he will never pay off.

I have no idea if Scotty has insurance or not or what his arrangement is
with the hospital.
That's his business and I am not interested in that specific discussion.

However, doesn't the approved health care reform mean that you, as a person
of means, will help pay for the care required by those who have no insurance
for whatever reasons? I happen to agree with it.

I thought this is what you have been advocating also. Why the criticism?


No you are seeing the real goals of left. It is not equaling the playing
field, it is tilting the playing field to their advantage. Scott will
not be gracious enough to get on bended knee and thank the Democrat for
their omniscience to grant the people such a great entitlement.
Therefore, Scott must be silence, shunned and pushed into a corner.

Sometimes I wonder about you Richard.


Sure, you're one to "wonder" about Dick.
Dick is successful, and a gentleman.
You are neither.
So who cares what you "wonder" about.
Dick is generous and charitable, and you ain't.
Look, Scotty doesn't want health care for all.
Why?
Since he's a known deadbeat for medical bills, he wouldn't be paying for
any of it.
In fact, it would pay for his health care.
So what's left to justify his resistance to the idea of everybody being
able to afford decent health care?
He's either a mean sumbitch or just hates anything Dems do, even if it
prevents the death of innocent babies.
Which puts him back to mean sumbitch.
Take your pick of mean sumbitch or mean sumbitch.
What you can add to that is he is a medical deadbeat telling others
what's good for him should be good for them.
Just welsh on your medical bills, and have those with insurance take
care of it.
Because I'm the great political philosopher Scotty.
You get that? It's simple and easy to understand.
Made it that way for you.

Jim - I don't like libs, and I don't like mean sumbitches or deadbeats.


[email protected] March 29th 10 02:40 PM

Bliues deny coverage to ill newborn baby
 
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:19:00 -0400, hk
wrote:

Boston (SmartAboutHealth) - A ruthless health insurance company denied
coverage to an ill newborn baby in Texas, resulting in the death of the
young boy.

Houston Tracy was born in Crowley, Texas, and unfortunately only lived
for a total of 10-days after he was denied coverage by BlueCross
BlueShield of Texas.

The baby boy was born with a condition that is known as
d-transformation. This is diagnosed when there is a transposition of the
heart’s great arteries.

This can be fixed, but a major surgery is needed, one that the insurance
company would not pay for.

The baby boy was born on March 15th with what BlueCross BlueShield of
Texas deemed a pre-existing condition.

Since they considered his disease as this, they refused to cover the
health care of the baby boy.

What this meant is that the boy was not able to get the surgery, and
unfortunately died less than two weeks after being born.

Could you imagine what it felt like for his parents, Doug and Kim Tracy,
to be told that their son was not going to be covered?

This is an absolute tragedy to say the least and one which health
insurance companies should be absolutely embarrassed about.

Under the new health care initiative from President Barack Obama, health
insurance companies will no longer be able to deny coverage to infants
due to “pre-existing conditions.”

- -

What the Blues are practicing is "Republican" health insurance...you
know, the right to life until you are born and then...buzz off.


Who refused to treat the baby?

anon-e-moose[_2_] March 29th 10 02:40 PM

Bliues deny coverage to ill newborn baby
 
Jim wrote:
BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...
"hk" wrote in message
m...
What could be more pathetic than an asshole like Scotty here whining
about health care insurance when he doesn't have any and as a result
racked up a $25,000 bill at a local hospital that he will never pay
off.

I have no idea if Scotty has insurance or not or what his arrangement
is with the hospital.
That's his business and I am not interested in that specific discussion.

However, doesn't the approved health care reform mean that you, as a
person of means, will help pay for the care required by those who
have no insurance for whatever reasons? I happen to agree with it.

I thought this is what you have been advocating also. Why the
criticism?


No you are seeing the real goals of left. It is not equaling the
playing field, it is tilting the playing field to their advantage.
Scott will not be gracious enough to get on bended knee and thank the
Democrat for their omniscience to grant the people such a great
entitlement. Therefore, Scott must be silence, shunned and pushed into
a corner.
Sometimes I wonder about you Richard.


Sure, you're one to "wonder" about Dick.
Dick is successful, and a gentleman.
You are neither.
So who cares what you "wonder" about.
Dick is generous and charitable, and you ain't.
Look, Scotty doesn't want health care for all.
Why?
Since he's a known deadbeat for medical bills, he wouldn't be paying for
any of it.
In fact, it would pay for his health care.
So what's left to justify his resistance to the idea of everybody being
able to afford decent health care?
He's either a mean sumbitch or just hates anything Dems do, even if it
prevents the death of innocent babies.
Which puts him back to mean sumbitch.
Take your pick of mean sumbitch or mean sumbitch.
What you can add to that is he is a medical deadbeat telling others
what's good for him should be good for them.
Just welsh on your medical bills, and have those with insurance take
care of it.
Because I'm the great political philosopher Scotty.
You get that? It's simple and easy to understand.
Made it that way for you.

Jim - I don't like libs, and I don't like mean sumbitches or deadbeats.

Tom,
You seem to be the only one spoofing at the moment. Are you encouraging
others to join in the fun? Or do you feel that you have exclusive rights
to the practice because you were the pioneer and original spoofer.
Scotty take note: Tom may be using someone elses name but he is speaking
from the heart.

Loogypicker[_2_] March 29th 10 02:41 PM

Bliues deny coverage to ill newborn baby
 
On Mar 29, 7:02*am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...







"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 18:57:48 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


On 28/03/2010 6:26 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:51:01 -0600,
wrote:


So let me ask, if this was a precondition, did they jump on health care
after getting the ultrasound that showed defects? *You know, subscribe
by convenience? *That is, not subscribe until they needed it
freeloading?


notice how the right hates the middle class so much they're willing to
blame a dying baby for having a 'pre existing condition'?


Don't hate them at all, just don't like the abuse and freeloading. Which
this case highlights perfectly.


couldnt have said it better myself


he just said he wants dead babies to punish freeloading parents.


Did you do further research? *Bet not.
*Turns out these idiots didn't have health care on the mother and
father as money there had different priorities. *Further, they sought
insurance AFTER they needed it.


uh...so what? so the baby dies. *just punishment, eh? more dead middle
class kids...that's what the middle class deserves


This is a pure case of some low lifes freeloading.


and if we'd had universal healthcare like in more advanced countries
the baby would have lived


but you dont care. *you're right wing. if children die, so what? at
least the rich stay rich and THEIR children will live
Playing the sympathy
screw for parental negligence. *Not having insurance and then when they
have a problem they subscribe.


Just jacks the rates for the rest of us.


kill 'em. *hell, why not just shoot the babies of the poor...gas
'em...


and if it jacks the rates for the rest of us...then why doesn't this
happen in other countries?


you right wingers have no answer for this, do you? other countries
have better healthcare, universal, at lower cost


BUT...because it's socialized, you'd rather have children die than
admit your fundamentalist faith in the free market HAS to be right


even when it's wrong


Now think of the millions who get jobs with health care when they think
they need it yet as soon as they don't... *Too much free loading.


should we at least pay for coffins to bury dead children? would the
right wing support THAT?


or is that freeloading, too?


Why should Blue Cross pay, when the insurance was taken out after
conception? *Why didn't the hospital perform the surgury gratis, under the
charter?


You best watch yourself talking about health care takeover again. It's
been off the front burner for a week now and you don't want the dem
leadership to start more stories about republicans do you? That whole
fake spitting incident turned into a week of sillyness by the dems.

Scotty

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- Show quoted text -


Yes, we know it's all liberals acting like conservatives just to make
the conservatives look bad. Conservatives can do nothing bad, liberals
can do nothing good.....

Don White March 29th 10 03:08 PM

Bliues deny coverage to ill newborn baby
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"hk" wrote in message
m...

I think " necessary health care" and "subsidized health care insurance"
are
two different things.

Eisboch



No "other words" are needed. I believe health insurance or a national
health plan should be mandatory, and if you legitimately cannot afford
the insurance, it should be subsidized for you and your family to the
degree necessary.


The hang-up I still have is the difference between a mandatory health
insurance program and the right to free or subsidized (tax supported)
health care for life threatening or disabling conditions. Mandatory
health insurance puts another massive layer of bureaucracy, private or
government, into the mix. When it comes to getting care, that has never
been a good thing.

A mandatory health insurance law is in effect here in MA. For those who
can't afford the subsidized insurance (state programs) it is cheaper to
pay the fine (assuming the state even enforces the collection of them,
which I doubt.)

Tough call. I guess my attitude is that those of us that are fortunate
enough to be able to afford decent health insurance also have a moral
obligation to assist those who need medical care (though a tax or
increased insurance premium) for those who cannot afford insurance. But
to subsidize health *insurance* programs is another matter.

Eisboch


I agree that you should kick those parasitic health insurance companies to
the curb and have a government supplied universal health care system.
The question is...what's the fairest & most efficient way to pay for it... a
national sales tax..... an increase in income tax.... or premiums colected
from anyone who reports an income?



hk March 29th 10 03:16 PM

Bliues deny coverage to ill newborn baby
 
On 3/29/2010 10:08 AM, Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...

wrote in message
m...

I think " necessary health care" and "subsidized health care insurance"
are
two different things.

Eisboch



No "other words" are needed. I believe health insurance or a national
health plan should be mandatory, and if you legitimately cannot afford
the insurance, it should be subsidized for you and your family to the
degree necessary.


The hang-up I still have is the difference between a mandatory health
insurance program and the right to free or subsidized (tax supported)
health care for life threatening or disabling conditions. Mandatory
health insurance puts another massive layer of bureaucracy, private or
government, into the mix. When it comes to getting care, that has never
been a good thing.

A mandatory health insurance law is in effect here in MA. For those who
can't afford the subsidized insurance (state programs) it is cheaper to
pay the fine (assuming the state even enforces the collection of them,
which I doubt.)

Tough call. I guess my attitude is that those of us that are fortunate
enough to be able to afford decent health insurance also have a moral
obligation to assist those who need medical care (though a tax or
increased insurance premium) for those who cannot afford insurance. But
to subsidize health *insurance* programs is another matter.

Eisboch


I agree that you should kick those parasitic health insurance companies to
the curb and have a government supplied universal health care system.
The question is...what's the fairest& most efficient way to pay for it... a
national sales tax..... an increase in income tax.... or premiums colected
from anyone who reports an income?



Don,
Why do you care what the US does? You don't live here. Just between
you and me, you need to get your butt out of my butt, it is hard to walk.

Your buddy,
Harry Krause

I am Tosk March 29th 10 03:19 PM

Bliues deny coverage to ill newborn baby
 
In article bd4534db-bc7b-4e97-ac4b-
,
says...

On Mar 29, 7:02*am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article ,
says...







"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 18:57:48 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


On 28/03/2010 6:26 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:51:01 -0600,
wrote:


So let me ask, if this was a precondition, did they jump on health care
after getting the ultrasound that showed defects? *You know, subscribe
by convenience? *That is, not subscribe until they needed it
freeloading?


notice how the right hates the middle class so much they're willing to
blame a dying baby for having a 'pre existing condition'?


Don't hate them at all, just don't like the abuse and freeloading. Which
this case highlights perfectly.


couldnt have said it better myself


he just said he wants dead babies to punish freeloading parents.


Did you do further research? *Bet not.
*Turns out these idiots didn't have health care on the mother and
father as money there had different priorities. *Further, they sought
insurance AFTER they needed it.


uh...so what? so the baby dies. *just punishment, eh? more dead middle
class kids...that's what the middle class deserves


This is a pure case of some low lifes freeloading.


and if we'd had universal healthcare like in more advanced countries
the baby would have lived


but you dont care. *you're right wing. if children die, so what? at
least the rich stay rich and THEIR children will live
Playing the sympathy
screw for parental negligence. *Not having insurance and then when they
have a problem they subscribe.


Just jacks the rates for the rest of us.


kill 'em. *hell, why not just shoot the babies of the poor...gas
'em...


and if it jacks the rates for the rest of us...then why doesn't this
happen in other countries?


you right wingers have no answer for this, do you? other countries
have better healthcare, universal, at lower cost


BUT...because it's socialized, you'd rather have children die than
admit your fundamentalist faith in the free market HAS to be right


even when it's wrong


Now think of the millions who get jobs with health care when they think
they need it yet as soon as they don't... *Too much free loading.


should we at least pay for coffins to bury dead children? would the
right wing support THAT?


or is that freeloading, too?


Why should Blue Cross pay, when the insurance was taken out after
conception? *Why didn't the hospital perform the surgury gratis, under the
charter?


You best watch yourself talking about health care takeover again. It's
been off the front burner for a week now and you don't want the dem
leadership to start more stories about republicans do you? That whole
fake spitting incident turned into a week of sillyness by the dems.

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first...
http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yes, we know it's all liberals acting like conservatives just to make
the conservatives look bad. Conservatives can do nothing bad, liberals
can do nothing good.....


And you can't/won't answer a simple question if you are not going to
like the answer because, every dem is good, every repub is bad..
In case you missed/ducked my question for the last two days, here it is
again, if reference to the fake spitting incident the day health care
takeover was passed..


Is there proof that this is republicans doing this, or in your
intolerant, bigoted words, "teabagger sorts"? By your own bar, I am
looking for criminal convictions and nothing less.




Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

I am Tosk March 29th 10 03:21 PM

Bliues deny coverage to ill newborn baby
 
In article ,
says...

"hk" wrote in message
m...

What could be more pathetic than an asshole like Scotty here whining about
health care insurance when he doesn't have any and as a result racked up a
$25,000 bill at a local hospital that he will never pay off.


I have no idea if Scotty has insurance or not or what his arrangement is
with the hospital.
That's his business and I am not interested in that specific discussion.

However, doesn't the approved health care reform mean that you, as a person
of means, will help pay for the care required by those who have no insurance
for whatever reasons? I happen to agree with it.

I thought this is what you have been advocating also. Why the criticism?

Eisboch


Because I found an organization up here to act as a middleman with me
and the hospital, instead of using his wife as he suggested last year. I
am paying my bill and his wife doesn't get a cut of any of that money.
You know how Harry operates, he skims off the middle, it's what he as a
retired union hack, does...

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first...
http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v


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