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wrote in message ... On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:38:09 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Nobody has said, or even said they will limit, what the insurance companies can charge for all of these new liabilities. The real showdown will come when our insurance options and prices show up this fall. The CEO of Caterpillar is estimating this will cost his company $100 million in additional health care insurance costs. That will get passed on to the employees, one way or another.. Insurance companies are currently raising prices... did you miss that? It's a fix that's coming. I doubt it. His costs are skyrocketting now. Every reputable economist, not to mention the CBO, predicts savings. We don't have to wait long to see. What do you think "open season" will look like this year? Where is all of the extra medical capacity going to come from to deal with 31 million new patients? Supply and demand says the cost of providing care will go up. I guess they don't make doctors anymore. How sad. Hospitals seem to think they'll be fine. Yup, if they start today, they will have a whole new batch of doctors in 2018. So, there's no one in the medical schools right now? I don't see any stats that show there will be a shortage. I have already said, real help would come if they let a lot of the routine stuff be done by paramedics and techs. If you are on a Navy ship or out in the field with the Army, 99% of all of your medical; treatment will be by an enlisted corpsman or medic. Bring these people home from these stupid foreign adventures and set them up in store front clinics, backed up by a doctor somewhere for things they can't handle. Lots of things will help. Maybe this is one of them. Feel free to email with your suggestion. Let's see the stats you are looking at. |
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:47:10 -0400, anon-e-moose
wrote: nom=de=plume wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article 5c24e43c-bfea-442d-a269- , says... On Mar 23, 7:42 pm, I am Tosk wrote: In article , says... Tim wrote: On Mar 23, 2:20 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: For the righties... which of these things do you not like? Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in 2010: 90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk pools for people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people coverage when they get sick. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to children with pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime caps on coverage. 180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to stay on their parents' policies until they turn 26. this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out. -- Nom=de=Plume From the title, I thought you were anouncing a new boat coming out on the market or something like that. Ya I know what you mean. It would be nice to see some boat banter for a change. There's a few more the dems like.. The removal of the restrictions on abortion, the IRS being in charge of collections, the language controlling insurance company rates (remember, that was one of the tales they told us about the plan) was removed late in the process, the pharma companies (also blamed for the high prices) were given a nice bone and now have 12 years with no competition from generic drugs which means many more good drugs won't be available to regualar folks... There are planty more, either way the bill is a hoax on America and a gift to Unions, Pharma Companies, Big Insurance, and of course the SEIU... Passed through corruption and strong arm tactics, by the most sold out administration in history... I bet they love it. Scotty -- For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do you think that this is the first bill that has ever been passed that has special interest groups involved??? Hell the Republicans wrote the book on how to court special interest groups. They cut out the frekin language that was what the whole bill was supposed to be about. The language that would control insurance company rates. Don't you remember, the bill was supposed to be about controling the insurance company rates... or at least during the second wave after having initially called it "health care refrom"... Scotty -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v No. You're just a liar. That's strictly your opinion. Right. No, it's a fact. Proven. |
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:33:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:38:09 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Nobody has said, or even said they will limit, what the insurance companies can charge for all of these new liabilities. The real showdown will come when our insurance options and prices show up this fall. The CEO of Caterpillar is estimating this will cost his company $100 million in additional health care insurance costs. That will get passed on to the employees, one way or another.. Insurance companies are currently raising prices... did you miss that? It's a fix that's coming. I doubt it. His costs are skyrocketting now. Every reputable economist, not to mention the CBO, predicts savings. We don't have to wait long to see. What do you think "open season" will look like this year? Where is all of the extra medical capacity going to come from to deal with 31 million new patients? Supply and demand says the cost of providing care will go up. I guess they don't make doctors anymore. How sad. Hospitals seem to think they'll be fine. Yup, if they start today, they will have a whole new batch of doctors in 2018. So, there's no one in the medical schools right now? I don't see any stats that show there will be a shortage. I have already said, real help would come if they let a lot of the routine stuff be done by paramedics and techs. If you are on a Navy ship or out in the field with the Army, 99% of all of your medical; treatment will be by an enlisted corpsman or medic. Bring these people home from these stupid foreign adventures and set them up in store front clinics, backed up by a doctor somewhere for things they can't handle. Lots of things will help. Maybe this is one of them. Feel free to email with your suggestion. There are shortages on GP doctors, since specialization pays significantly more, the number of doctors becoming GPs is less and less. Sort of like school teachers who are underpaid to teach 1st grade and should be paid equivalent to tenure professors based on the service they provide. It's not an equitable system. |
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:48:30 -0400, anon-e-moose
wrote: nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:38:09 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Nobody has said, or even said they will limit, what the insurance companies can charge for all of these new liabilities. The real showdown will come when our insurance options and prices show up this fall. The CEO of Caterpillar is estimating this will cost his company $100 million in additional health care insurance costs. That will get passed on to the employees, one way or another.. Insurance companies are currently raising prices... did you miss that? It's a fix that's coming. I doubt it. His costs are skyrocketting now. Every reputable economist, not to mention the CBO, predicts savings. We don't have to wait long to see. What do you think "open season" will look like this year? Where is all of the extra medical capacity going to come from to deal with 31 million new patients? Supply and demand says the cost of providing care will go up. I guess they don't make doctors anymore. How sad. Hospitals seem to think they'll be fine. Yup, if they start today, they will have a whole new batch of doctors in 2018. So, there's no one in the medical schools right now? I don't see any stats that show there will be a shortage. I have already said, real help would come if they let a lot of the routine stuff be done by paramedics and techs. If you are on a Navy ship or out in the field with the Army, 99% of all of your medical; treatment will be by an enlisted corpsman or medic. Bring these people home from these stupid foreign adventures and set them up in store front clinics, backed up by a doctor somewhere for things they can't handle. Lots of things will help. Maybe this is one of them. Feel free to email with your suggestion. Let's see the stats you are looking at. If you're concerned why not find your own stats, lazy ass? Plume, this smells like another Jim incarnation. His nose is brown and he posts all day. He has nothing better to do that buttsniff and carp. |
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wrote in message ... hk wrote: On 3/23/10 8:16 PM, Larry wrote: Tim wrote: On Mar 23, 2:20 pm, wrote: For the righties... which of these things do you not like? Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in 2010: 90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk pools for people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people coverage when they get sick. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to children with pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime caps on coverage. 180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to stay on their parents' policies until they turn 26. this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out. -- Nom=de=Plume From the title, I thought you were anouncing a new boat coming out on the market or something like that. No chance of that. She's not interested in such a thing. Another Krueger? No idea if she's interested in that. Except that I probably will buy something in the next couple of months, which is what I've said for a while. Now you know. What's on your short list? |
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... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... hk wrote: On 3/23/10 8:16 PM, Larry wrote: Tim wrote: On Mar 23, 2:20 pm, wrote: For the righties... which of these things do you not like? Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in 2010: 90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk pools for people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people coverage when they get sick. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to children with pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime caps on coverage. 180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to stay on their parents' policies until they turn 26. this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out. -- Nom=de=Plume From the title, I thought you were anouncing a new boat coming out on the market or something like that. No chance of that. She's not interested in such a thing. Another Krueger? No idea if she's interested in that. Except that I probably will buy something in the next couple of months, which is what I've said for a while. Now you know. What's on your short list? I thought the portaboat was interesting, but I want something with cushions on the side. I'm tentatively settled on one of the Walker Bays if I can find one to touch. I don't want to buy one online.. too much hassle. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:04:30 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "Larry" wrote in message m... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... hk wrote: On 3/23/10 8:16 PM, Larry wrote: Tim wrote: On Mar 23, 2:20 pm, wrote: For the righties... which of these things do you not like? Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in 2010: 90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk pools for people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people coverage when they get sick. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to children with pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime caps on coverage. 180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to stay on their parents' policies until they turn 26. this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out. -- Nom=de=Plume From the title, I thought you were anouncing a new boat coming out on the market or something like that. No chance of that. She's not interested in such a thing. Another Krueger? No idea if she's interested in that. Except that I probably will buy something in the next couple of months, which is what I've said for a while. Now you know. What's on your short list? I thought the portaboat was interesting, but I want something with cushions on the side. I'm tentatively settled on one of the Walker Bays if I can find one to touch. I don't want to buy one online.. too much hassle. You're gonna buy a plastic rowboat or is it an inflatable? |
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says... On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:34:53 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message .. . On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:09:34 -0500, Jim wrote: We don't have to wait long to see. What do you think "open season" will look like this year? We'll see. I think the sleazy Dems have an ace up their sleeve with that Health Insurance Rate Authority that 'Bama tried to get included in the Senate Bill. The parliamentarian kicked it out of the reconciliation process - Byrd rule - so it won't get passed in the current bill. The insurance companies will not have much trouble justifying their rate increases., they just have to present the underwriter's report about the extra cost of insuring "kids" until they are 26, picking up "preexisting conditions" and removing caps. It is pure dollars and cents. There ain't no free lunch. "Jim" is an idiot. The ins. companies need more regulation. It's not a free lunch, but most people are willing to pay more for actually getting something of value. It's not "pure dollars and cents." The prices are determined by the actuarial studies by the underwriters and that is pure dollars and cents. They increased the insurance company exposure to risk and the insurance company is going to recover that in higher premiums. Actually when you are talking about caps and preexisting conditions it is not really risk at all, the worst possible scenario is already true and the insurance company is just a medical service broker, paying the bill, tacking on administrative cost and profit and billing the other customers accordingly. In a macro sense this is a very simple business. When outlay goes up, income must go up. Mumbo Jumbo really. Fact: All kids won't be covered this year Fact: Insurance company rates are not controlled at all in this bill. Fact: Prescriptions and pre-existing conditions will not be all covered this year and far into the life of the bill if ever. Fact: The Pharmas got a great big bone with the extention of generic protections to 12 years so millions won't have access to the best medicines and will suffer and die. Fact: All illegal aliens will be covered as soon as congress passes a "comprehensive" (amnesty) immigration act. Fact: You can't add 35 million people to the medical roles and expect them to keep up. Fact: You can't take billions from doctors and expect better service. Fact: You can't strip money from seniors and expect them to get better care. Fact: You can't save 38 billion by spending 10 trillion. Maybe they can call it money "saved or counted" (created;) snerk ..... The list goes on... Scotty -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v |
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... On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:34:53 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:09:34 -0500, Jim wrote: We don't have to wait long to see. What do you think "open season" will look like this year? We'll see. I think the sleazy Dems have an ace up their sleeve with that Health Insurance Rate Authority that 'Bama tried to get included in the Senate Bill. The parliamentarian kicked it out of the reconciliation process - Byrd rule - so it won't get passed in the current bill. The insurance companies will not have much trouble justifying their rate increases., they just have to present the underwriter's report about the extra cost of insuring "kids" until they are 26, picking up "preexisting conditions" and removing caps. It is pure dollars and cents. There ain't no free lunch. "Jim" is an idiot. The ins. companies need more regulation. It's not a free lunch, but most people are willing to pay more for actually getting something of value. It's not "pure dollars and cents." The prices are determined by the actuarial studies by the underwriters and that is pure dollars and cents. Not completely. The prices are enhanced/determined by a group of people with one thing in mind... profit. They increased the insurance company exposure to risk and the insurance company is going to recover that in higher premiums. Actually when you are talking about caps and preexisting conditions it is not really risk at all, the worst possible scenario is already true and the insurance company is just a medical service broker, paying the bill, tacking on administrative cost and profit and billing the other customers accordingly. In a macro sense this is a very simple business. When outlay goes up, income must go up. It's a simple business that has no business involved in healthcare decisions. Profit and people's health are not really compatible. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:17:37 -0700, jps wrote: The prices are determined by the actuarial studies by the underwriters and that is pure dollars and cents. They increased the insurance company exposure to risk and the insurance company is going to recover that in higher premiums. Actually when you are talking about caps and preexisting conditions it is not really risk at all, the worst possible scenario is already true and the insurance company is just a medical service broker, paying the bill, tacking on administrative cost and profit and billing the other customers accordingly. In a macro sense this is a very simple business. When outlay goes up, income must go up. There's a few factors in there worth considering. Among them, the insurance companies are dividing 30 million new customers. There's upside in greater volume. Many of those new customers will be younger since they're more likely to forego insurance, pushing the median age lower and lowering actuarial risk. Outlay/customer is likely to go down. Since a significant number of these new "young" customers will be on their parent's policies they do not represent any actual new revenue. unless the parent's rate goes up. The real savings for us, that is small participants, is when they institute the exchange. That'll allow small companies like mine to join much larger pools. Let's see how that works in reality. Well, isn't that almost always the case? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"I am Tosk" wrote in message
... In article , says... On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:34:53 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message .. . On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:09:34 -0500, Jim wrote: We don't have to wait long to see. What do you think "open season" will look like this year? We'll see. I think the sleazy Dems have an ace up their sleeve with that Health Insurance Rate Authority that 'Bama tried to get included in the Senate Bill. The parliamentarian kicked it out of the reconciliation process - Byrd rule - so it won't get passed in the current bill. The insurance companies will not have much trouble justifying their rate increases., they just have to present the underwriter's report about the extra cost of insuring "kids" until they are 26, picking up "preexisting conditions" and removing caps. It is pure dollars and cents. There ain't no free lunch. "Jim" is an idiot. The ins. companies need more regulation. It's not a free lunch, but most people are willing to pay more for actually getting something of value. It's not "pure dollars and cents." The prices are determined by the actuarial studies by the underwriters and that is pure dollars and cents. They increased the insurance company exposure to risk and the insurance company is going to recover that in higher premiums. Actually when you are talking about caps and preexisting conditions it is not really risk at all, the worst possible scenario is already true and the insurance company is just a medical service broker, paying the bill, tacking on administrative cost and profit and billing the other customers accordingly. In a macro sense this is a very simple business. When outlay goes up, income must go up. Mumbo Jumbo really. Fact: All kids won't be covered this year Fact: Insurance company rates are not controlled at all in this bill. Fact: Prescriptions and pre-existing conditions will not be all covered this year and far into the life of the bill if ever. Fact: The Pharmas got a great big bone with the extention of generic protections to 12 years so millions won't have access to the best medicines and will suffer and die. Fact: All illegal aliens will be covered as soon as congress passes a "comprehensive" (amnesty) immigration act. Fact: You can't add 35 million people to the medical roles and expect them to keep up. Fact: You can't take billions from doctors and expect better service. Fact: You can't strip money from seniors and expect them to get better care. Fact: You can't save 38 billion by spending 10 trillion. Maybe they can call it money "saved or counted" (created;) snerk .... The list goes on... Scotty -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v Fact: You don't know your facts. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:33:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Yup, if they start today, they will have a whole new batch of doctors in 2018. So, there's no one in the medical schools right now? I don't see any stats that show there will be a shortage. It takes me a couple weeks to get into my primary care doctor now. They say if you need an appointment earlier go to the emergency room. It is apparent there are more patients than the doctors can handle. Come on. If it's an emergency, you go to the ER. If it's not, you can either go to your doc or another. Perhaps you have a poor plan with limited doctors available? In any case, your situation isn't necessarily representative. It's one case. Do you really expect to see a doctor on a moment's notice??? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:33:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Yup, if they start today, they will have a whole new batch of doctors in 2018. So, there's no one in the medical schools right now? I don't see any stats that show there will be a shortage. It takes me a couple weeks to get into my primary care doctor now. They say if you need an appointment earlier go to the emergency room. It is apparent there are more patients than the doctors can handle. What about a plumber? Is there a shortage of plumbers? How long does it take your "regular" plumber to get there? If it's an emergency, you call Roter-rooter, right? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:09:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:17:37 -0700, jps wrote: The prices are determined by the actuarial studies by the underwriters and that is pure dollars and cents. They increased the insurance company exposure to risk and the insurance company is going to recover that in higher premiums. Actually when you are talking about caps and preexisting conditions it is not really risk at all, the worst possible scenario is already true and the insurance company is just a medical service broker, paying the bill, tacking on administrative cost and profit and billing the other customers accordingly. In a macro sense this is a very simple business. When outlay goes up, income must go up. There's a few factors in there worth considering. Among them, the insurance companies are dividing 30 million new customers. There's upside in greater volume. Many of those new customers will be younger since they're more likely to forego insurance, pushing the median age lower and lowering actuarial risk. Outlay/customer is likely to go down. Since a significant number of these new "young" customers will be on their parent's policies they do not represent any actual new revenue. unless the parent's rate goes up. The real savings for us, that is small participants, is when they institute the exchange. That'll allow small companies like mine to join much larger pools. Let's see how that works in reality. Well, isn't that almost always the case? The Wall Street Journal is not sanguine about the prospects. http://tinyurl.com/ylfftph It's an opinion piece. They're welcome to their opinion. Doesn't make it a fact. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:11:56 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:33:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Yup, if they start today, they will have a whole new batch of doctors in 2018. So, there's no one in the medical schools right now? I don't see any stats that show there will be a shortage. It takes me a couple weeks to get into my primary care doctor now. They say if you need an appointment earlier go to the emergency room. It is apparent there are more patients than the doctors can handle. Come on. If it's an emergency, you go to the ER. If it's not, you can either go to your doc or another. Perhaps you have a poor plan with limited doctors available? In any case, your situation isn't necessarily representative. It's one case. Do you really expect to see a doctor on a moment's notice??? So you are saying if I have strep throat I either go to the ER or wait 2 weeks? I have a pretty open PPO plan but going to a doctor I am not registered with is even slower than going to my primary care doctor. "New patients" around here will be waiting months. The specialists are backed up a couple weeks too. The option is going to a "quack in the box" walk in clinic but a lot of them only want cash/credit card. They don't take most insurance. I don't think they take Medicare or Medicaid patients either If you have strep, you'd be able to see a doctor. Don't know your situation, but it sounds like you don't have a very "open" plan. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:12:51 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:33:26 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: Yup, if they start today, they will have a whole new batch of doctors in 2018. So, there's no one in the medical schools right now? I don't see any stats that show there will be a shortage. It takes me a couple weeks to get into my primary care doctor now. They say if you need an appointment earlier go to the emergency room. It is apparent there are more patients than the doctors can handle. What about a plumber? Is there a shortage of plumbers? How long does it take your "regular" plumber to get there? If it's an emergency, you call Roter-rooter, right? You picked a bad example. Most trades are sitting home waiting for just about any kind of work. I could get a plumber over here in a few hours to mow my lawn if I paid him anything close to his regular service charge. On our recent renovation I had all sorts of trades in here on very short notice and working pretty cheap. A guy who normally runs 30 man concrete crews was in my bathroom with a sledge hammer busting up the floor and hauling it away. I just asked for a plumber for a rental. It was a minor, under-sink leak. It took two days to get them out. It was a good example. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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wrote in message The Wall Street Journal is not sanguine about the prospects. http://tinyurl.com/ylfftph It's an opinion piece. They're welcome to their opinion. Doesn't make it a fact. Look, people are different. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpOUctySD68 There are the weak, naive rappers like you and Snoop Doggy Dog, and there are men of force and conviction like me, gfretwell, and John Boehner. The vid makes it evident who is right. Jim - Using audio visuals to drive my point home. |
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:06:49 -0400, I am Tosk
wrote: Mumbo Jumbo really. Fact: All kids won't be covered this year Fact: Insurance company rates are not controlled at all in this bill. squeezed out on a technicality...due to the GOP screwing the middle class Fact: Prescriptions and pre-existing conditions will not be all covered this year and far into the life of the bill if ever. Fact: The Pharmas got a great big bone with the extention of generic protections to 12 years so millions won't have access to the best medicines and will suffer and die. uh what? they get health insurance including drug coverage and this means they wont get coverage? do you read what you write? Fact: All illegal aliens will be covered as soon as congress passes a "comprehensive" (amnesty) immigration act. uh no. the bill specifically excludes this Fact: You can't add 35 million people to the medical roles and expect them to keep up. sure you can. you just want them to die. Fact: You can't take billions from doctors and expect better service. actually they got a raise Fact: You can't strip money from seniors and expect them to get better care. we're not going to get better anyhow. that's what happens when we get old Fact: You can't save 38 billion by spending 10 trillion. Maybe they can call it money "saved or counted" (created;) snerk .... The list goes on... Scotty and you can't control healthcare by letting insurance companies do double digit increases with no alternatives for american citizens. if the GOP hadn't screwed with the process, alot of these problems could have been addressed but they're social darwinists |
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wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... hk wrote: On 3/23/10 8:16 PM, Larry wrote: Tim wrote: On Mar 23, 2:20 pm, wrote: For the righties... which of these things do you not like? Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in 2010: 90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk pools for people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people coverage when they get sick. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to children with pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime caps on coverage. 180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to stay on their parents' policies until they turn 26. this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out. -- Nom=de=Plume From the title, I thought you were anouncing a new boat coming out on the market or something like that. No chance of that. She's not interested in such a thing. Another Krueger? No idea if she's interested in that. Except that I probably will buy something in the next couple of months, which is what I've said for a while. Now you know. What's on your short list? I thought the portaboat was interesting, but I want something with cushions on the side. I'm tentatively settled on one of the Walker Bays if I can find one to touch. I don't want to buy one online.. too much hassle. Have you considered a catamaran like the Hobie? http://www.hobiecat.com/sailing/index.html Seems like it would be much more stable than the others and it looks cool! |
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Larry wrote:
nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... hk wrote: On 3/23/10 8:16 PM, Larry wrote: Tim wrote: On Mar 23, 2:20 pm, wrote: For the righties... which of these things do you not like? Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in 2010: 90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk pools for people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people coverage when they get sick. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to children with pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime caps on coverage. 180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to stay on their parents' policies until they turn 26. this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out. -- Nom=de=Plume From the title, I thought you were anouncing a new boat coming out on the market or something like that. No chance of that. She's not interested in such a thing. Another Krueger? No idea if she's interested in that. Except that I probably will buy something in the next couple of months, which is what I've said for a while. Now you know. What's on your short list? I thought the portaboat was interesting, but I want something with cushions on the side. I'm tentatively settled on one of the Walker Bays if I can find one to touch. I don't want to buy one online.. too much hassle. Have you considered a catamaran like the Hobie? http://www.hobiecat.com/sailing/index.html Seems like it would be much more stable than the others and it looks cool! Oops. Forgot to add that my neighbor has a like-new Hobie for sale. I can get you a real good deal on it. E-mail me for details. Please. |
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... If you have strep, you'd be able to see a doctor. Don't know your situation, but it sounds like you don't have a very "open" plan. -- Nom=de=Plume How do you know you have strep without seeing a doctor for a culture? Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"jps" wrote in message ... I just found a Harvard-educated GP, recommended by a friend. Seems very personable and thorough. Will be getting my first colonoscopy soon. Oh boy! Something struck me as both ironic and funny when I read this. What goes around, comes around? 8) |
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On 3/25/10 8:22 PM, Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message ... I just found a Harvard-educated GP, recommended by a friend. Seems very personable and thorough. Will be getting my first colonoscopy soon. Oh boy! Something struck me as both ironic and funny when I read this. Tailpipe exams are always a subject of irony and humor. The "rear admiral" who did mine was a woman who was hysterically funny. I knew right away she was the doc for me! She was terrific. I didn't feel a thing and I don't remember what happened in the O.R. But that stuff you have to drink the night before...good grief, it was just awful. -- Conservatives - just pretend Obama's health care legislation is another unnecessary war and you'll feel better about it. |
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"Larry" wrote in message
... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... hk wrote: On 3/23/10 8:16 PM, Larry wrote: Tim wrote: On Mar 23, 2:20 pm, wrote: For the righties... which of these things do you not like? Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in 2010: 90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk pools for people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people coverage when they get sick. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to children with pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime caps on coverage. 180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to stay on their parents' policies until they turn 26. this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out. -- Nom=de=Plume From the title, I thought you were anouncing a new boat coming out on the market or something like that. No chance of that. She's not interested in such a thing. Another Krueger? No idea if she's interested in that. Except that I probably will buy something in the next couple of months, which is what I've said for a while. Now you know. What's on your short list? I thought the portaboat was interesting, but I want something with cushions on the side. I'm tentatively settled on one of the Walker Bays if I can find one to touch. I don't want to buy one online.. too much hassle. Have you considered a catamaran like the Hobie? http://www.hobiecat.com/sailing/index.html Seems like it would be much more stable than the others and it looks cool! I'm really familar with Hobies! I used to own one eons ago. But, they're a hassle to trailer, and they're really wet. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... If you have strep, you'd be able to see a doctor. Don't know your situation, but it sounds like you don't have a very "open" plan. -- Nom=de=Plume How do you know you have strep without seeing a doctor for a culture? Eisboch It's tough to tell, so the nurse who typically answers the phone will ask a bunch of questions, then make a recommendation. If it's likely to be strep, you need to see the doctor soon, which is never a problem. They can almost always squeeze you in. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:22:45 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"jps" wrote in message .. . I just found a Harvard-educated GP, recommended by a friend. Seems very personable and thorough. Will be getting my first colonoscopy soon. Oh boy! Something struck me as both ironic and funny when I read this. Let me know when you figure it out. That and your politics. |
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In article , LarryG441
@gmail.com says... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... hk wrote: On 3/23/10 8:16 PM, Larry wrote: Tim wrote: On Mar 23, 2:20 pm, wrote: For the righties... which of these things do you not like? Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in 2010: 90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk pools for people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people coverage when they get sick. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to children with pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime caps on coverage. 180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to stay on their parents' policies until they turn 26. this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out. -- Nom=de=Plume From the title, I thought you were anouncing a new boat coming out on the market or something like that. No chance of that. She's not interested in such a thing. Another Krueger? No idea if she's interested in that. Except that I probably will buy something in the next couple of months, which is what I've said for a while. Now you know. What's on your short list? I thought the portaboat was interesting, but I want something with cushions on the side. I'm tentatively settled on one of the Walker Bays if I can find one to touch. I don't want to buy one online.. too much hassle. Have you considered a catamaran like the Hobie? http://www.hobiecat.com/sailing/index.html Seems like it would be much more stable than the others and it looks cool! Tell the plum that the Walker bay is a mooring tender at best. If she plans on her boat going more than a couple hundred yards in a day, she should get the right tool for the job. It might also be good on a pond of a couple of acres (like 2) or less... Scotty -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v |
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:34:27 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote: On Mar 23, 4:20*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote: For the righties... which of these things do you not like? Provisions of the health care overhaul that will take place in 2010: 90 days after enactment - Provide immediate access to high-risk pools for people with no insurance because of pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying people coverage when they get sick. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from denying coverage to children with pre-existing conditions. 180 days after enactment - Bar insurers from imposing lifetime caps on coverage. 180 days after enactment - Require insurers to allow people to stay on their parents' policies until they turn 26. this year - Provide a $250 rebade to Medicare prescription drug beneficiaries whose initial benefits have run out. -- Nom=de=Plume They won't like any of them. Too partisan. For one who continuously bitches about political posts, you seem to do your share and support those who do nothing but. Little hypocritical, wouldn't you say? -- John H For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v |
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:22:45 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"jps" wrote in message .. . I just found a Harvard-educated GP, recommended by a friend. Seems very personable and thorough. Will be getting my first colonoscopy soon. Oh boy! Something struck me as both ironic and funny when I read this. No (pun intended) ****. -- John H For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v |
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I am Tosk wrote:
Have you considered a catamaran like the Hobie? http://www.hobiecat.com/sailing/index.html Seems like it would be much more stable than the others and it looks cool! Tell the plum that the Walker bay is a mooring tender at best. If she plans on her boat going more than a couple hundred yards in a day, she should get the right tool for the job. It might also be good on a pond of a couple of acres (like 2) or less... Scotty You just did. |
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In article , LarryG441
@gmail.com says... I am Tosk wrote: Have you considered a catamaran like the Hobie? http://www.hobiecat.com/sailing/index.html Seems like it would be much more stable than the others and it looks cool! Tell the plum that the Walker bay is a mooring tender at best. If she plans on her boat going more than a couple hundred yards in a day, she should get the right tool for the job. It might also be good on a pond of a couple of acres (like 2) or less... Scotty You just did. Well, I have her filtered and was assuming she had returned the favor... Scotty -- For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v |
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On 3/27/10 1:12 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In articleROWdnRKBAb_pwTDWnZ2dnUVZ_iwAAAAA@giganews. com, LarryG441 @gmail.com says... I am Tosk wrote: Have you considered a catamaran like the Hobie? http://www.hobiecat.com/sailing/index.html Seems like it would be much more stable than the others and it looks cool! Tell the plum that the Walker bay is a mooring tender at best. If she plans on her boat going more than a couple hundred yards in a day, she should get the right tool for the job. It might also be good on a pond of a couple of acres (like 2) or less... Scotty You just did. Well, I have her filtered and was assuming she had returned the favor... Scotty Filter you? You, the certified Dumbest Poster in Rec.Boats, dumber even than Loogy? What's the fun in that? One reads your posts to see what the stupid people think, just as one reads the posts of Frogwatch to see what the crazy people think. -- Conservatives - just pretend Obama's health care legislation is another unnecessary war and you'll feel better about it. |
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I am Tosk wrote:
In article , LarryG441 @gmail.com says... I am Tosk wrote: Have you considered a catamaran like the Hobie? http://www.hobiecat.com/sailing/index.html Seems like it would be much more stable than the others and it looks cool! Tell the plum that the Walker bay is a mooring tender at best. If she plans on her boat going more than a couple hundred yards in a day, she should get the right tool for the job. It might also be good on a pond of a couple of acres (like 2) or less... Scotty You just did. Well, I have her filtered and was assuming she had returned the favor... Scotty Don't worry about it. I have it covered, ok? |
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I am Tosk wrote:
In articleROWdnRKBAb_pwTDWnZ2dnUVZ_iwAAAAA@giganews. com, LarryG441 @gmail.com says... I am Tosk wrote: Have you considered a catamaran like the Hobie? http://www.hobiecat.com/sailing/index.html Seems like it would be much more stable than the others and it looks cool! Tell the plum that the Walker bay is a mooring tender at best. If she plans on her boat going more than a couple hundred yards in a day, she should get the right tool for the job. It might also be good on a pond of a couple of acres (like 2) or less... Scotty You just did. Well, I have her filtered and was assuming she had returned the favor... Scotty I didn't know that. |
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