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Those damn Canadians..
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:30:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Bill McKee" wrote in message om... But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. I think one of the biggest problems this country has is our political leaders' tendency to "fix" a problem by simply passing a law. It's lunacy. Makes the political blow-hards sound like they are on top of the issues, but the endless barrage of new laws they author and pass are worthless if they are unenforceable or the will to enforce them is lacking. Eisboch Absolutely. That seems to be one of the biggest differences between this country and Germany, for example. In Germany the laws are enforced. One law that used to catch a lot of soldiers is that forbidding drinking while driving. Many times a soldier would be drinking on his way home, and a German would see him get out of his car with a beer in his hand. The German would then call the local Polizei who would knock on the soldier's door and give breathalize him. Then they'd haul his butt downtown. You don't see the aggressive driving in Germany that you do here, because over there a citizen can make a report to the cops. A cop isn't required to witness the behavior. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking, which is why conservatives can see in black and white. |
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:02:40 -0600, Arbiter wrote:
In article , says... "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:30:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Bill McKee" wrote in message news:TqqdnaSRx732pBLWnZ2dnUVZ_rKdnZ2d@earthlink. com... But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. I think one of the biggest problems this country has is our political leaders' tendency to "fix" a problem by simply passing a law. It's lunacy. Makes the political blow-hards sound like they are on top of the issues, but the endless barrage of new laws they author and pass are worthless if they are unenforceable or the will to enforce them is lacking. Eisboch Absolutely. That seems to be one of the biggest differences between this country and Germany, for example. In Germany the laws are enforced. One law that used to catch a lot of soldiers is that forbidding drinking while driving. Many times a soldier would be drinking on his way home, and a German would see him get out of his car with a beer in his hand. The German would then call the local Polizei who would knock on the soldier's door and give breathalize him. Then they'd haul his butt downtown. You don't see the aggressive driving in Germany that you do here, because over there a citizen can make a report to the cops. A cop isn't required to witness the behavior. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking, which is why conservatives can see in black and white. Yeah, Germany has set the standard for human rights and civil liberties. Oh wait, there was that pesky guy with the funny mustache... Issue at hand, titled, "Does this post make any intellectual sense, or is the poster simply jaw-flapping?" The finding is "Jaw-flapping." The finding is binding. A warning here about frivolous cases. The Arbiter's schedule does not allow entertaining too many frivolous cases, such as this one, so don't assume all cases will be considered. Recess. The Arbiter There you go regurgitating crap again. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking, which is why conservatives can see in black and white. |
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John H wrote:
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:02:40 -0600, Arbiter wrote: In article , says... "John H" wrote in message ... On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:30:51 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. I think one of the biggest problems this country has is our political leaders' tendency to "fix" a problem by simply passing a law. It's lunacy. Makes the political blow-hards sound like they are on top of the issues, but the endless barrage of new laws they author and pass are worthless if they are unenforceable or the will to enforce them is lacking. Eisboch Absolutely. That seems to be one of the biggest differences between this country and Germany, for example. In Germany the laws are enforced. One law that used to catch a lot of soldiers is that forbidding drinking while driving. Many times a soldier would be drinking on his way home, and a German would see him get out of his car with a beer in his hand. The German would then call the local Polizei who would knock on the soldier's door and give breathalize him. Then they'd haul his butt downtown. You don't see the aggressive driving in Germany that you do here, because over there a citizen can make a report to the cops. A cop isn't required to witness the behavior. -- John H All decisions are the result of binary thinking, which is why conservatives can see in black and white. Yeah, Germany has set the standard for human rights and civil liberties. Oh wait, there was that pesky guy with the funny mustache... Issue at hand, titled, "Does this post make any intellectual sense, or is the poster simply jaw-flapping?" The finding is "Jaw-flapping." The finding is binding. A warning here about frivolous cases. The Arbiter's schedule does not allow entertaining too many frivolous cases, such as this one, so don't assume all cases will be considered. Recess. The Arbiter There you go regurgitating crap again. Probably a lib. Can you believe how this joker repeated that deplum crap? Lib - Clipping nonsense from a post is a few jumps above their pay grade. |
Those damn Canadians..
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "jps" wrote in message ... Point is, Richard, that you paint yourself (and have many believers on the right as a result of doing so) as a non-partisan but your stripes shine through in the most obvious way. Believe me when I say you have no idea what my "stripes" are. You have a lot to say for someone who is so ignorant of facts. I expect crickets or a punt, so don't feel the need to respond. You won't disappoint me. Cuz, like you, I really don't give a **** what you think. Absolutely incorrect. I do care. I just don't respond well to narrow minded, ill tempered and mean spirited people who have no tolerance for points of view other than their own. You seem to have joined the "them against us" mindset, regardless of political persuasion. Discussing issues with people like yourself (who would likely be characterized as far more of an extremist than I) is pointless. Hope your business is doing well. Eisboch I don't think you addressed this point... If a "conservative" would make a comment about a Hispanic, it'd be along the lines of "illegal, shiftless, lazy, freeloader, scab, etc." And you count Plume's comment about the Hispanic population being family-oriented and warm as being equivalently racist. Is something about the second statement derogatory or do you find warm, family-oriented people to be offensive? -- Nom=de=Plume GOOD GRIEF! Eisboch So, you refuse to address the point. Ok. -- Nom=de=Plume All those hispanics warm and loving. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...ecentersffe c $1.4 Billion to incarerate illegals and they are mostly hispanic. How many more hispanics that are legal are incarcerated? Please show me where I said "all" Hispanics. Please show me where "all" white are honest citizens. -- Nom=de=Plume You insinuated that there were very few not warm and loving. Actually, I said, "They are mostly a warm, friendly people who care about family and community." I made no comment about a quantity, except with the use of mostly, and that's been my experience. Did you take a poll or are you just upset that they're here? -- Nom=de=Plume Mostly is a quantity. I am ****ed about the illegals. I have legal friends that are Hispanic. Including a son in law. I speak enough Spanish to hold a conversation in a Spanish speaking country with a non English speaker. We could end the illegal problem by the end of the week. Pass another Bracero Bill. Work permits. We allow 100,00's of thousands of educated workers in to keep down the wages in the professional disciplines using the H-1 visa program. I worked along side Bracero's as a teenager. No problem with them. But we have caused the major problem with illegal immigrants by awarding them benefits, and then amnesty. Pays to break the law and come here without papers. Ok. Well, I'm ****ed about illegals also. We have plenty of laws on the books already. It's a matter of money for enforcement. And, it's not economically or logistically possible to deport 12 million people all at a time. The current budget calls for an increase in funding for enforcement, mostly auditing companies that are likely to hire illegals. That is progressing, but too slowly. There are also technical mechanisms (e.g., actually being able to cross-ref social security numbers with birth dates, etc.) that would help find those who use forged documents. We need to have better border security, not so much for the Mexican/South of the Border groups, as for terrorists. We don't need civilians armed to the teeth patrolling the border. That's just dumb on a number of levels. Nothing wrong with spotters, but they need to be able to call law enforcement to take action. -- Nom=de=Plume But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. Huh? If a company is found to be deliberately hiring illegals, it's a big deal. What were the previous administrations doing? Nothing. At least something is starting to happen. -- Nom=de=Plume The previous administration had some huge raids, netting lots of illegals. Be outcry over the poor peons being busted. And Tyson Farms, who is a big Dem contributor, cried wolf. The previous administration did little and underfunded the program of enforcement. They made a couple of show raids, and that was about it. Suggestion: Get your head out of Dick Cheney's butt. -- Nom=de=Plume \ Get your head out of Reid's but. |
Those damn Canadians..
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. I think one of the biggest problems this country has is our political leaders' tendency to "fix" a problem by simply passing a law. It's lunacy. Makes the political blow-hards sound like they are on top of the issues, but the endless barrage of new laws they author and pass are worthless if they are unenforceable or the will to enforce them is lacking. Eisboch As I said, we have plenty of law on the subject. It's enforcement, and that has to be funded for it to be effective. This was true during lead up to the Madoff situation also. -- Nom=de=Plume Funding is not the problem. "Will" is the lacking item. You're wrong. The enforcement effort has been hamstrung by lack of funds. Look it up. -- Nom=de=Plume We are overspending. Funding was not a problem. Will to fix the problem is the problem. |
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. I think one of the biggest problems this country has is our political leaders' tendency to "fix" a problem by simply passing a law. It's lunacy. Makes the political blow-hards sound like they are on top of the issues, but the endless barrage of new laws they author and pass are worthless if they are unenforceable or the will to enforce them is lacking. Eisboch As I said, we have plenty of law on the subject. It's enforcement, and that has to be funded for it to be effective. This was true during lead up to the Madoff situation also. -- Nom=de=Plume Funding is not the problem. "Will" is the lacking item. You're wrong. The enforcement effort has been hamstrung by lack of funds. Look it up. -- Nom=de=Plume We are overspending. Funding was not a problem. Will to fix the problem is the problem. Uh huh... so, when it actually takes money to fix a problem, we're overspending, but when we go to war without a valid reason and spend trillions, that's ok. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Those damn Canadians..
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "jps" wrote in message ... Point is, Richard, that you paint yourself (and have many believers on the right as a result of doing so) as a non-partisan but your stripes shine through in the most obvious way. Believe me when I say you have no idea what my "stripes" are. You have a lot to say for someone who is so ignorant of facts. I expect crickets or a punt, so don't feel the need to respond. You won't disappoint me. Cuz, like you, I really don't give a **** what you think. Absolutely incorrect. I do care. I just don't respond well to narrow minded, ill tempered and mean spirited people who have no tolerance for points of view other than their own. You seem to have joined the "them against us" mindset, regardless of political persuasion. Discussing issues with people like yourself (who would likely be characterized as far more of an extremist than I) is pointless. Hope your business is doing well. Eisboch I don't think you addressed this point... If a "conservative" would make a comment about a Hispanic, it'd be along the lines of "illegal, shiftless, lazy, freeloader, scab, etc." And you count Plume's comment about the Hispanic population being family-oriented and warm as being equivalently racist. Is something about the second statement derogatory or do you find warm, family-oriented people to be offensive? -- Nom=de=Plume GOOD GRIEF! Eisboch So, you refuse to address the point. Ok. -- Nom=de=Plume All those hispanics warm and loving. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...ecentersffe c $1.4 Billion to incarerate illegals and they are mostly hispanic. How many more hispanics that are legal are incarcerated? Please show me where I said "all" Hispanics. Please show me where "all" white are honest citizens. -- Nom=de=Plume You insinuated that there were very few not warm and loving. Actually, I said, "They are mostly a warm, friendly people who care about family and community." I made no comment about a quantity, except with the use of mostly, and that's been my experience. Did you take a poll or are you just upset that they're here? -- Nom=de=Plume Mostly is a quantity. I am ****ed about the illegals. I have legal friends that are Hispanic. Including a son in law. I speak enough Spanish to hold a conversation in a Spanish speaking country with a non English speaker. We could end the illegal problem by the end of the week. Pass another Bracero Bill. Work permits. We allow 100,00's of thousands of educated workers in to keep down the wages in the professional disciplines using the H-1 visa program. I worked along side Bracero's as a teenager. No problem with them. But we have caused the major problem with illegal immigrants by awarding them benefits, and then amnesty. Pays to break the law and come here without papers. Ok. Well, I'm ****ed about illegals also. We have plenty of laws on the books already. It's a matter of money for enforcement. And, it's not economically or logistically possible to deport 12 million people all at a time. The current budget calls for an increase in funding for enforcement, mostly auditing companies that are likely to hire illegals. That is progressing, but too slowly. There are also technical mechanisms (e.g., actually being able to cross-ref social security numbers with birth dates, etc.) that would help find those who use forged documents. We need to have better border security, not so much for the Mexican/South of the Border groups, as for terrorists. We don't need civilians armed to the teeth patrolling the border. That's just dumb on a number of levels. Nothing wrong with spotters, but they need to be able to call law enforcement to take action. -- Nom=de=Plume But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. Huh? If a company is found to be deliberately hiring illegals, it's a big deal. What were the previous administrations doing? Nothing. At least something is starting to happen. -- Nom=de=Plume The previous administration had some huge raids, netting lots of illegals. Be outcry over the poor peons being busted. And Tyson Farms, who is a big Dem contributor, cried wolf. The previous administration did little and underfunded the program of enforcement. They made a couple of show raids, and that was about it. Suggestion: Get your head out of Dick Cheney's butt. -- Nom=de=Plume \ Get your head out of Reid's but. You're the one who keeps the dream of the last crappy administration alive. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Those damn Canadians..
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. I think one of the biggest problems this country has is our political leaders' tendency to "fix" a problem by simply passing a law. It's lunacy. Makes the political blow-hards sound like they are on top of the issues, but the endless barrage of new laws they author and pass are worthless if they are unenforceable or the will to enforce them is lacking. Eisboch As I said, we have plenty of law on the subject. It's enforcement, and that has to be funded for it to be effective. This was true during lead up to the Madoff situation also. -- Nom=de=Plume Funding is not the problem. "Will" is the lacking item. You're wrong. The enforcement effort has been hamstrung by lack of funds. Look it up. -- Nom=de=Plume We are overspending. Funding was not a problem. Will to fix the problem is the problem. Uh huh... so, when it actually takes money to fix a problem, we're overspending, but when we go to war without a valid reason and spend trillions, that's ok. -- Nom=de=Plume Troll. |
Those damn Canadians..
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "jps" wrote in message ... Point is, Richard, that you paint yourself (and have many believers on the right as a result of doing so) as a non-partisan but your stripes shine through in the most obvious way. Believe me when I say you have no idea what my "stripes" are. You have a lot to say for someone who is so ignorant of facts. I expect crickets or a punt, so don't feel the need to respond. You won't disappoint me. Cuz, like you, I really don't give a **** what you think. Absolutely incorrect. I do care. I just don't respond well to narrow minded, ill tempered and mean spirited people who have no tolerance for points of view other than their own. You seem to have joined the "them against us" mindset, regardless of political persuasion. Discussing issues with people like yourself (who would likely be characterized as far more of an extremist than I) is pointless. Hope your business is doing well. Eisboch I don't think you addressed this point... If a "conservative" would make a comment about a Hispanic, it'd be along the lines of "illegal, shiftless, lazy, freeloader, scab, etc." And you count Plume's comment about the Hispanic population being family-oriented and warm as being equivalently racist. Is something about the second statement derogatory or do you find warm, family-oriented people to be offensive? -- Nom=de=Plume GOOD GRIEF! Eisboch So, you refuse to address the point. Ok. -- Nom=de=Plume All those hispanics warm and loving. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...ecentersffe c $1.4 Billion to incarerate illegals and they are mostly hispanic. How many more hispanics that are legal are incarcerated? Please show me where I said "all" Hispanics. Please show me where "all" white are honest citizens. -- Nom=de=Plume You insinuated that there were very few not warm and loving. Actually, I said, "They are mostly a warm, friendly people who care about family and community." I made no comment about a quantity, except with the use of mostly, and that's been my experience. Did you take a poll or are you just upset that they're here? -- Nom=de=Plume Mostly is a quantity. I am ****ed about the illegals. I have legal friends that are Hispanic. Including a son in law. I speak enough Spanish to hold a conversation in a Spanish speaking country with a non English speaker. We could end the illegal problem by the end of the week. Pass another Bracero Bill. Work permits. We allow 100,00's of thousands of educated workers in to keep down the wages in the professional disciplines using the H-1 visa program. I worked along side Bracero's as a teenager. No problem with them. But we have caused the major problem with illegal immigrants by awarding them benefits, and then amnesty. Pays to break the law and come here without papers. Ok. Well, I'm ****ed about illegals also. We have plenty of laws on the books already. It's a matter of money for enforcement. And, it's not economically or logistically possible to deport 12 million people all at a time. The current budget calls for an increase in funding for enforcement, mostly auditing companies that are likely to hire illegals. That is progressing, but too slowly. There are also technical mechanisms (e.g., actually being able to cross-ref social security numbers with birth dates, etc.) that would help find those who use forged documents. We need to have better border security, not so much for the Mexican/South of the Border groups, as for terrorists. We don't need civilians armed to the teeth patrolling the border. That's just dumb on a number of levels. Nothing wrong with spotters, but they need to be able to call law enforcement to take action. -- Nom=de=Plume But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. Huh? If a company is found to be deliberately hiring illegals, it's a big deal. What were the previous administrations doing? Nothing. At least something is starting to happen. -- Nom=de=Plume The previous administration had some huge raids, netting lots of illegals. Be outcry over the poor peons being busted. And Tyson Farms, who is a big Dem contributor, cried wolf. The previous administration did little and underfunded the program of enforcement. They made a couple of show raids, and that was about it. Suggestion: Get your head out of Dick Cheney's butt. -- Nom=de=Plume \ Get your head out of Reid's but. You're the one who keeps the dream of the last crappy administration alive. -- Nom=de=Plume I did not vote for the last administration and figured this one may be OK. Wrong on this one being OK. |
Those damn Canadians..
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. I think one of the biggest problems this country has is our political leaders' tendency to "fix" a problem by simply passing a law. It's lunacy. Makes the political blow-hards sound like they are on top of the issues, but the endless barrage of new laws they author and pass are worthless if they are unenforceable or the will to enforce them is lacking. Eisboch As I said, we have plenty of law on the subject. It's enforcement, and that has to be funded for it to be effective. This was true during lead up to the Madoff situation also. -- Nom=de=Plume Funding is not the problem. "Will" is the lacking item. You're wrong. The enforcement effort has been hamstrung by lack of funds. Look it up. -- Nom=de=Plume We are overspending. Funding was not a problem. Will to fix the problem is the problem. Uh huh... so, when it actually takes money to fix a problem, we're overspending, but when we go to war without a valid reason and spend trillions, that's ok. -- Nom=de=Plume Troll. So, basically, you're in denial about reality. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Those damn Canadians..
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "jps" wrote in message ... Point is, Richard, that you paint yourself (and have many believers on the right as a result of doing so) as a non-partisan but your stripes shine through in the most obvious way. Believe me when I say you have no idea what my "stripes" are. You have a lot to say for someone who is so ignorant of facts. I expect crickets or a punt, so don't feel the need to respond. You won't disappoint me. Cuz, like you, I really don't give a **** what you think. Absolutely incorrect. I do care. I just don't respond well to narrow minded, ill tempered and mean spirited people who have no tolerance for points of view other than their own. You seem to have joined the "them against us" mindset, regardless of political persuasion. Discussing issues with people like yourself (who would likely be characterized as far more of an extremist than I) is pointless. Hope your business is doing well. Eisboch I don't think you addressed this point... If a "conservative" would make a comment about a Hispanic, it'd be along the lines of "illegal, shiftless, lazy, freeloader, scab, etc." And you count Plume's comment about the Hispanic population being family-oriented and warm as being equivalently racist. Is something about the second statement derogatory or do you find warm, family-oriented people to be offensive? -- Nom=de=Plume GOOD GRIEF! Eisboch So, you refuse to address the point. Ok. -- Nom=de=Plume All those hispanics warm and loving. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...ecentersffe c $1.4 Billion to incarerate illegals and they are mostly hispanic. How many more hispanics that are legal are incarcerated? Please show me where I said "all" Hispanics. Please show me where "all" white are honest citizens. -- Nom=de=Plume You insinuated that there were very few not warm and loving. Actually, I said, "They are mostly a warm, friendly people who care about family and community." I made no comment about a quantity, except with the use of mostly, and that's been my experience. Did you take a poll or are you just upset that they're here? -- Nom=de=Plume Mostly is a quantity. I am ****ed about the illegals. I have legal friends that are Hispanic. Including a son in law. I speak enough Spanish to hold a conversation in a Spanish speaking country with a non English speaker. We could end the illegal problem by the end of the week. Pass another Bracero Bill. Work permits. We allow 100,00's of thousands of educated workers in to keep down the wages in the professional disciplines using the H-1 visa program. I worked along side Bracero's as a teenager. No problem with them. But we have caused the major problem with illegal immigrants by awarding them benefits, and then amnesty. Pays to break the law and come here without papers. Ok. Well, I'm ****ed about illegals also. We have plenty of laws on the books already. It's a matter of money for enforcement. And, it's not economically or logistically possible to deport 12 million people all at a time. The current budget calls for an increase in funding for enforcement, mostly auditing companies that are likely to hire illegals. That is progressing, but too slowly. There are also technical mechanisms (e.g., actually being able to cross-ref social security numbers with birth dates, etc.) that would help find those who use forged documents. We need to have better border security, not so much for the Mexican/South of the Border groups, as for terrorists. We don't need civilians armed to the teeth patrolling the border. That's just dumb on a number of levels. Nothing wrong with spotters, but they need to be able to call law enforcement to take action. -- Nom=de=Plume But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. Huh? If a company is found to be deliberately hiring illegals, it's a big deal. What were the previous administrations doing? Nothing. At least something is starting to happen. -- Nom=de=Plume The previous administration had some huge raids, netting lots of illegals. Be outcry over the poor peons being busted. And Tyson Farms, who is a big Dem contributor, cried wolf. The previous administration did little and underfunded the program of enforcement. They made a couple of show raids, and that was about it. Suggestion: Get your head out of Dick Cheney's butt. -- Nom=de=Plume \ Get your head out of Reid's but. You're the one who keeps the dream of the last crappy administration alive. -- Nom=de=Plume I did not vote for the last administration and figured this one may be OK. Wrong on this one being OK. I doubt it. You don't sound like someone who would miss a chance at voting for Bush/Cheney. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Those damn Canadians..
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "jps" wrote in message ... Point is, Richard, that you paint yourself (and have many believers on the right as a result of doing so) as a non-partisan but your stripes shine through in the most obvious way. Believe me when I say you have no idea what my "stripes" are. You have a lot to say for someone who is so ignorant of facts. I expect crickets or a punt, so don't feel the need to respond. You won't disappoint me. Cuz, like you, I really don't give a **** what you think. Absolutely incorrect. I do care. I just don't respond well to narrow minded, ill tempered and mean spirited people who have no tolerance for points of view other than their own. You seem to have joined the "them against us" mindset, regardless of political persuasion. Discussing issues with people like yourself (who would likely be characterized as far more of an extremist than I) is pointless. Hope your business is doing well. Eisboch I don't think you addressed this point... If a "conservative" would make a comment about a Hispanic, it'd be along the lines of "illegal, shiftless, lazy, freeloader, scab, etc." And you count Plume's comment about the Hispanic population being family-oriented and warm as being equivalently racist. Is something about the second statement derogatory or do you find warm, family-oriented people to be offensive? -- Nom=de=Plume GOOD GRIEF! Eisboch So, you refuse to address the point. Ok. -- Nom=de=Plume All those hispanics warm and loving. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...ecentersffe c $1.4 Billion to incarerate illegals and they are mostly hispanic. How many more hispanics that are legal are incarcerated? Please show me where I said "all" Hispanics. Please show me where "all" white are honest citizens. -- Nom=de=Plume You insinuated that there were very few not warm and loving. Actually, I said, "They are mostly a warm, friendly people who care about family and community." I made no comment about a quantity, except with the use of mostly, and that's been my experience. Did you take a poll or are you just upset that they're here? -- Nom=de=Plume Mostly is a quantity. I am ****ed about the illegals. I have legal friends that are Hispanic. Including a son in law. I speak enough Spanish to hold a conversation in a Spanish speaking country with a non English speaker. We could end the illegal problem by the end of the week. Pass another Bracero Bill. Work permits. We allow 100,00's of thousands of educated workers in to keep down the wages in the professional disciplines using the H-1 visa program. I worked along side Bracero's as a teenager. No problem with them. But we have caused the major problem with illegal immigrants by awarding them benefits, and then amnesty. Pays to break the law and come here without papers. Ok. Well, I'm ****ed about illegals also. We have plenty of laws on the books already. It's a matter of money for enforcement. And, it's not economically or logistically possible to deport 12 million people all at a time. The current budget calls for an increase in funding for enforcement, mostly auditing companies that are likely to hire illegals. That is progressing, but too slowly. There are also technical mechanisms (e.g., actually being able to cross-ref social security numbers with birth dates, etc.) that would help find those who use forged documents. We need to have better border security, not so much for the Mexican/South of the Border groups, as for terrorists. We don't need civilians armed to the teeth patrolling the border. That's just dumb on a number of levels. Nothing wrong with spotters, but they need to be able to call law enforcement to take action. -- Nom=de=Plume But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. Huh? If a company is found to be deliberately hiring illegals, it's a big deal. What were the previous administrations doing? Nothing. At least something is starting to happen. -- Nom=de=Plume The previous administration had some huge raids, netting lots of illegals. Be outcry over the poor peons being busted. And Tyson Farms, who is a big Dem contributor, cried wolf. The previous administration did little and underfunded the program of enforcement. They made a couple of show raids, and that was about it. Suggestion: Get your head out of Dick Cheney's butt. -- Nom=de=Plume \ Get your head out of Reid's but. You're the one who keeps the dream of the last crappy administration alive. -- Nom=de=Plume I did not vote for the last administration and figured this one may be OK. Wrong on this one being OK. I doubt it. You don't sound like someone who would miss a chance at voting for Bush/Cheney. -- Nom=de=Plume Bad judge of character had to be added to your resume. |
Those damn Canadians..
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. I think one of the biggest problems this country has is our political leaders' tendency to "fix" a problem by simply passing a law. It's lunacy. Makes the political blow-hards sound like they are on top of the issues, but the endless barrage of new laws they author and pass are worthless if they are unenforceable or the will to enforce them is lacking. Eisboch As I said, we have plenty of law on the subject. It's enforcement, and that has to be funded for it to be effective. This was true during lead up to the Madoff situation also. -- Nom=de=Plume Funding is not the problem. "Will" is the lacking item. You're wrong. The enforcement effort has been hamstrung by lack of funds. Look it up. -- Nom=de=Plume We are overspending. Funding was not a problem. Will to fix the problem is the problem. Uh huh... so, when it actually takes money to fix a problem, we're overspending, but when we go to war without a valid reason and spend trillions, that's ok. -- Nom=de=Plume Troll. So, basically, you're in denial about reality. -- Nom=de=Plume Nope. The reality, is there is no will by the leaders to fix the problem. |
Those damn Canadians..
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. I think one of the biggest problems this country has is our political leaders' tendency to "fix" a problem by simply passing a law. It's lunacy. Makes the political blow-hards sound like they are on top of the issues, but the endless barrage of new laws they author and pass are worthless if they are unenforceable or the will to enforce them is lacking. Eisboch As I said, we have plenty of law on the subject. It's enforcement, and that has to be funded for it to be effective. This was true during lead up to the Madoff situation also. -- Nom=de=Plume Funding is not the problem. "Will" is the lacking item. You're wrong. The enforcement effort has been hamstrung by lack of funds. Look it up. -- Nom=de=Plume We are overspending. Funding was not a problem. Will to fix the problem is the problem. Uh huh... so, when it actually takes money to fix a problem, we're overspending, but when we go to war without a valid reason and spend trillions, that's ok. -- Nom=de=Plume Troll. So, basically, you're in denial about reality. -- Nom=de=Plume Nope. The reality, is there is no will by the leaders to fix the problem. Like I said, you don't know the facts and won't listen to them when presented with them. And you call me a troll??? -- Nom=de=Plume |
Those damn Canadians..
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "jps" wrote in message ... Point is, Richard, that you paint yourself (and have many believers on the right as a result of doing so) as a non-partisan but your stripes shine through in the most obvious way. Believe me when I say you have no idea what my "stripes" are. You have a lot to say for someone who is so ignorant of facts. I expect crickets or a punt, so don't feel the need to respond. You won't disappoint me. Cuz, like you, I really don't give a **** what you think. Absolutely incorrect. I do care. I just don't respond well to narrow minded, ill tempered and mean spirited people who have no tolerance for points of view other than their own. You seem to have joined the "them against us" mindset, regardless of political persuasion. Discussing issues with people like yourself (who would likely be characterized as far more of an extremist than I) is pointless. Hope your business is doing well. Eisboch I don't think you addressed this point... If a "conservative" would make a comment about a Hispanic, it'd be along the lines of "illegal, shiftless, lazy, freeloader, scab, etc." And you count Plume's comment about the Hispanic population being family-oriented and warm as being equivalently racist. Is something about the second statement derogatory or do you find warm, family-oriented people to be offensive? -- Nom=de=Plume GOOD GRIEF! Eisboch So, you refuse to address the point. Ok. -- Nom=de=Plume All those hispanics warm and loving. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...ecentersffe c $1.4 Billion to incarerate illegals and they are mostly hispanic. How many more hispanics that are legal are incarcerated? Please show me where I said "all" Hispanics. Please show me where "all" white are honest citizens. -- Nom=de=Plume You insinuated that there were very few not warm and loving. Actually, I said, "They are mostly a warm, friendly people who care about family and community." I made no comment about a quantity, except with the use of mostly, and that's been my experience. Did you take a poll or are you just upset that they're here? -- Nom=de=Plume Mostly is a quantity. I am ****ed about the illegals. I have legal friends that are Hispanic. Including a son in law. I speak enough Spanish to hold a conversation in a Spanish speaking country with a non English speaker. We could end the illegal problem by the end of the week. Pass another Bracero Bill. Work permits. We allow 100,00's of thousands of educated workers in to keep down the wages in the professional disciplines using the H-1 visa program. I worked along side Bracero's as a teenager. No problem with them. But we have caused the major problem with illegal immigrants by awarding them benefits, and then amnesty. Pays to break the law and come here without papers. Ok. Well, I'm ****ed about illegals also. We have plenty of laws on the books already. It's a matter of money for enforcement. And, it's not economically or logistically possible to deport 12 million people all at a time. The current budget calls for an increase in funding for enforcement, mostly auditing companies that are likely to hire illegals. That is progressing, but too slowly. There are also technical mechanisms (e.g., actually being able to cross-ref social security numbers with birth dates, etc.) that would help find those who use forged documents. We need to have better border security, not so much for the Mexican/South of the Border groups, as for terrorists. We don't need civilians armed to the teeth patrolling the border. That's just dumb on a number of levels. Nothing wrong with spotters, but they need to be able to call law enforcement to take action. -- Nom=de=Plume But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. Huh? If a company is found to be deliberately hiring illegals, it's a big deal. What were the previous administrations doing? Nothing. At least something is starting to happen. -- Nom=de=Plume The previous administration had some huge raids, netting lots of illegals. Be outcry over the poor peons being busted. And Tyson Farms, who is a big Dem contributor, cried wolf. The previous administration did little and underfunded the program of enforcement. They made a couple of show raids, and that was about it. Suggestion: Get your head out of Dick Cheney's butt. -- Nom=de=Plume \ Get your head out of Reid's but. You're the one who keeps the dream of the last crappy administration alive. -- Nom=de=Plume I did not vote for the last administration and figured this one may be OK. Wrong on this one being OK. I doubt it. You don't sound like someone who would miss a chance at voting for Bush/Cheney. -- Nom=de=Plume Bad judge of character had to be added to your resume. You're a liar. You lied about your "patents" among other things. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Those damn Canadians..
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Those damn Canadians..
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "jps" wrote in message ... Point is, Richard, that you paint yourself (and have many believers on the right as a result of doing so) as a non-partisan but your stripes shine through in the most obvious way. Believe me when I say you have no idea what my "stripes" are. You have a lot to say for someone who is so ignorant of facts. I expect crickets or a punt, so don't feel the need to respond. You won't disappoint me. Cuz, like you, I really don't give a **** what you think. Absolutely incorrect. I do care. I just don't respond well to narrow minded, ill tempered and mean spirited people who have no tolerance for points of view other than their own. You seem to have joined the "them against us" mindset, regardless of political persuasion. Discussing issues with people like yourself (who would likely be characterized as far more of an extremist than I) is pointless. Hope your business is doing well. Eisboch I don't think you addressed this point... If a "conservative" would make a comment about a Hispanic, it'd be along the lines of "illegal, shiftless, lazy, freeloader, scab, etc." And you count Plume's comment about the Hispanic population being family-oriented and warm as being equivalently racist. Is something about the second statement derogatory or do you find warm, family-oriented people to be offensive? -- Nom=de=Plume GOOD GRIEF! Eisboch So, you refuse to address the point. Ok. -- Nom=de=Plume All those hispanics warm and loving. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...ecentersffe c $1.4 Billion to incarerate illegals and they are mostly hispanic. How many more hispanics that are legal are incarcerated? Please show me where I said "all" Hispanics. Please show me where "all" white are honest citizens. -- Nom=de=Plume You insinuated that there were very few not warm and loving. Actually, I said, "They are mostly a warm, friendly people who care about family and community." I made no comment about a quantity, except with the use of mostly, and that's been my experience. Did you take a poll or are you just upset that they're here? -- Nom=de=Plume Mostly is a quantity. I am ****ed about the illegals. I have legal friends that are Hispanic. Including a son in law. I speak enough Spanish to hold a conversation in a Spanish speaking country with a non English speaker. We could end the illegal problem by the end of the week. Pass another Bracero Bill. Work permits. We allow 100,00's of thousands of educated workers in to keep down the wages in the professional disciplines using the H-1 visa program. I worked along side Bracero's as a teenager. No problem with them. But we have caused the major problem with illegal immigrants by awarding them benefits, and then amnesty. Pays to break the law and come here without papers. Ok. Well, I'm ****ed about illegals also. We have plenty of laws on the books already. It's a matter of money for enforcement. And, it's not economically or logistically possible to deport 12 million people all at a time. The current budget calls for an increase in funding for enforcement, mostly auditing companies that are likely to hire illegals. That is progressing, but too slowly. There are also technical mechanisms (e.g., actually being able to cross-ref social security numbers with birth dates, etc.) that would help find those who use forged documents. We need to have better border security, not so much for the Mexican/South of the Border groups, as for terrorists. We don't need civilians armed to the teeth patrolling the border. That's just dumb on a number of levels. Nothing wrong with spotters, but they need to be able to call law enforcement to take action. -- Nom=de=Plume But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. Huh? If a company is found to be deliberately hiring illegals, it's a big deal. What were the previous administrations doing? Nothing. At least something is starting to happen. -- Nom=de=Plume The previous administration had some huge raids, netting lots of illegals. Be outcry over the poor peons being busted. And Tyson Farms, who is a big Dem contributor, cried wolf. The previous administration did little and underfunded the program of enforcement. They made a couple of show raids, and that was about it. Suggestion: Get your head out of Dick Cheney's butt. -- Nom=de=Plume \ Get your head out of Reid's but. You're the one who keeps the dream of the last crappy administration alive. -- Nom=de=Plume I did not vote for the last administration and figured this one may be OK. Wrong on this one being OK. I doubt it. You don't sound like someone who would miss a chance at voting for Bush/Cheney. -- Nom=de=Plume Bad judge of character had to be added to your resume. You're a liar. You lied about your "patents" among other things. -- Nom=de=Plume You are an imcompetent patent person if you can not find my disk drive patent. |
Those damn Canadians..
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "jps" wrote in message ... Point is, Richard, that you paint yourself (and have many believers on the right as a result of doing so) as a non-partisan but your stripes shine through in the most obvious way. Believe me when I say you have no idea what my "stripes" are. You have a lot to say for someone who is so ignorant of facts. I expect crickets or a punt, so don't feel the need to respond. You won't disappoint me. Cuz, like you, I really don't give a **** what you think. Absolutely incorrect. I do care. I just don't respond well to narrow minded, ill tempered and mean spirited people who have no tolerance for points of view other than their own. You seem to have joined the "them against us" mindset, regardless of political persuasion. Discussing issues with people like yourself (who would likely be characterized as far more of an extremist than I) is pointless. Hope your business is doing well. Eisboch I don't think you addressed this point... If a "conservative" would make a comment about a Hispanic, it'd be along the lines of "illegal, shiftless, lazy, freeloader, scab, etc." And you count Plume's comment about the Hispanic population being family-oriented and warm as being equivalently racist. Is something about the second statement derogatory or do you find warm, family-oriented people to be offensive? -- Nom=de=Plume GOOD GRIEF! Eisboch So, you refuse to address the point. Ok. -- Nom=de=Plume All those hispanics warm and loving. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...ecentersffe c $1.4 Billion to incarerate illegals and they are mostly hispanic. How many more hispanics that are legal are incarcerated? Please show me where I said "all" Hispanics. Please show me where "all" white are honest citizens. -- Nom=de=Plume You insinuated that there were very few not warm and loving. Actually, I said, "They are mostly a warm, friendly people who care about family and community." I made no comment about a quantity, except with the use of mostly, and that's been my experience. Did you take a poll or are you just upset that they're here? -- Nom=de=Plume Mostly is a quantity. I am ****ed about the illegals. I have legal friends that are Hispanic. Including a son in law. I speak enough Spanish to hold a conversation in a Spanish speaking country with a non English speaker. We could end the illegal problem by the end of the week. Pass another Bracero Bill. Work permits. We allow 100,00's of thousands of educated workers in to keep down the wages in the professional disciplines using the H-1 visa program. I worked along side Bracero's as a teenager. No problem with them. But we have caused the major problem with illegal immigrants by awarding them benefits, and then amnesty. Pays to break the law and come here without papers. Ok. Well, I'm ****ed about illegals also. We have plenty of laws on the books already. It's a matter of money for enforcement. And, it's not economically or logistically possible to deport 12 million people all at a time. The current budget calls for an increase in funding for enforcement, mostly auditing companies that are likely to hire illegals. That is progressing, but too slowly. There are also technical mechanisms (e.g., actually being able to cross-ref social security numbers with birth dates, etc.) that would help find those who use forged documents. We need to have better border security, not so much for the Mexican/South of the Border groups, as for terrorists. We don't need civilians armed to the teeth patrolling the border. That's just dumb on a number of levels. Nothing wrong with spotters, but they need to be able to call law enforcement to take action. -- Nom=de=Plume But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. Huh? If a company is found to be deliberately hiring illegals, it's a big deal. What were the previous administrations doing? Nothing. At least something is starting to happen. -- Nom=de=Plume The previous administration had some huge raids, netting lots of illegals. Be outcry over the poor peons being busted. And Tyson Farms, who is a big Dem contributor, cried wolf. The previous administration did little and underfunded the program of enforcement. They made a couple of show raids, and that was about it. Suggestion: Get your head out of Dick Cheney's butt. -- Nom=de=Plume \ Get your head out of Reid's but. You're the one who keeps the dream of the last crappy administration alive. -- Nom=de=Plume I did not vote for the last administration and figured this one may be OK. Wrong on this one being OK. I doubt it. You don't sound like someone who would miss a chance at voting for Bush/Cheney. -- Nom=de=Plume Bad judge of character had to be added to your resume. You're a liar. You lied about your "patents" among other things. -- Nom=de=Plume You are an imcompetent patent person if you can not find my disk drive patent. You're a liar. Nothing like that is in the database under the name you're using. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Those damn Canadians..
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "jps" wrote in message ... Point is, Richard, that you paint yourself (and have many believers on the right as a result of doing so) as a non-partisan but your stripes shine through in the most obvious way. Believe me when I say you have no idea what my "stripes" are. You have a lot to say for someone who is so ignorant of facts. I expect crickets or a punt, so don't feel the need to respond. You won't disappoint me. Cuz, like you, I really don't give a **** what you think. Absolutely incorrect. I do care. I just don't respond well to narrow minded, ill tempered and mean spirited people who have no tolerance for points of view other than their own. You seem to have joined the "them against us" mindset, regardless of political persuasion. Discussing issues with people like yourself (who would likely be characterized as far more of an extremist than I) is pointless. Hope your business is doing well. Eisboch I don't think you addressed this point... If a "conservative" would make a comment about a Hispanic, it'd be along the lines of "illegal, shiftless, lazy, freeloader, scab, etc." And you count Plume's comment about the Hispanic population being family-oriented and warm as being equivalently racist. Is something about the second statement derogatory or do you find warm, family-oriented people to be offensive? -- Nom=de=Plume GOOD GRIEF! Eisboch So, you refuse to address the point. Ok. -- Nom=de=Plume All those hispanics warm and loving. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...ecentersffe c $1.4 Billion to incarerate illegals and they are mostly hispanic. How many more hispanics that are legal are incarcerated? Please show me where I said "all" Hispanics. Please show me where "all" white are honest citizens. -- Nom=de=Plume You insinuated that there were very few not warm and loving. Actually, I said, "They are mostly a warm, friendly people who care about family and community." I made no comment about a quantity, except with the use of mostly, and that's been my experience. Did you take a poll or are you just upset that they're here? -- Nom=de=Plume Mostly is a quantity. I am ****ed about the illegals. I have legal friends that are Hispanic. Including a son in law. I speak enough Spanish to hold a conversation in a Spanish speaking country with a non English speaker. We could end the illegal problem by the end of the week. Pass another Bracero Bill. Work permits. We allow 100,00's of thousands of educated workers in to keep down the wages in the professional disciplines using the H-1 visa program. I worked along side Bracero's as a teenager. No problem with them. But we have caused the major problem with illegal immigrants by awarding them benefits, and then amnesty. Pays to break the law and come here without papers. Ok. Well, I'm ****ed about illegals also. We have plenty of laws on the books already. It's a matter of money for enforcement. And, it's not economically or logistically possible to deport 12 million people all at a time. The current budget calls for an increase in funding for enforcement, mostly auditing companies that are likely to hire illegals. That is progressing, but too slowly. There are also technical mechanisms (e.g., actually being able to cross-ref social security numbers with birth dates, etc.) that would help find those who use forged documents. We need to have better border security, not so much for the Mexican/South of the Border groups, as for terrorists. We don't need civilians armed to the teeth patrolling the border. That's just dumb on a number of levels. Nothing wrong with spotters, but they need to be able to call law enforcement to take action. -- Nom=de=Plume But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. Huh? If a company is found to be deliberately hiring illegals, it's a big deal. What were the previous administrations doing? Nothing. At least something is starting to happen. -- Nom=de=Plume The previous administration had some huge raids, netting lots of illegals. Be outcry over the poor peons being busted. And Tyson Farms, who is a big Dem contributor, cried wolf. The previous administration did little and underfunded the program of enforcement. They made a couple of show raids, and that was about it. Suggestion: Get your head out of Dick Cheney's butt. -- Nom=de=Plume \ Get your head out of Reid's but. You're the one who keeps the dream of the last crappy administration alive. -- Nom=de=Plume I did not vote for the last administration and figured this one may be OK. Wrong on this one being OK. I doubt it. You don't sound like someone who would miss a chance at voting for Bush/Cheney. -- Nom=de=Plume Bad judge of character had to be added to your resume. You're a liar. You lied about your "patents" among other things. -- Nom=de=Plume You are an imcompetent patent person if you can not find my disk drive patent. You're a liar. Nothing like that is in the database under the name you're using. -- Nom=de=Plume Incompetent troll. |
Those damn Canadians..
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:07:43 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "jps" wrote in message ... Point is, Richard, that you paint yourself (and have many believers on the right as a result of doing so) as a non-partisan but your stripes shine through in the most obvious way. Believe me when I say you have no idea what my "stripes" are. You have a lot to say for someone who is so ignorant of facts. I expect crickets or a punt, so don't feel the need to respond. You won't disappoint me. Cuz, like you, I really don't give a **** what you think. Absolutely incorrect. I do care. I just don't respond well to narrow minded, ill tempered and mean spirited people who have no tolerance for points of view other than their own. You seem to have joined the "them against us" mindset, regardless of political persuasion. Discussing issues with people like yourself (who would likely be characterized as far more of an extremist than I) is pointless. Hope your business is doing well. Eisboch I don't think you addressed this point... If a "conservative" would make a comment about a Hispanic, it'd be along the lines of "illegal, shiftless, lazy, freeloader, scab, etc." And you count Plume's comment about the Hispanic population being family-oriented and warm as being equivalently racist. Is something about the second statement derogatory or do you find warm, family-oriented people to be offensive? -- Nom=de=Plume GOOD GRIEF! Eisboch So, you refuse to address the point. Ok. -- Nom=de=Plume All those hispanics warm and loving. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...ecentersffe c $1.4 Billion to incarerate illegals and they are mostly hispanic. How many more hispanics that are legal are incarcerated? Please show me where I said "all" Hispanics. Please show me where "all" white are honest citizens. -- Nom=de=Plume You insinuated that there were very few not warm and loving. Actually, I said, "They are mostly a warm, friendly people who care about family and community." I made no comment about a quantity, except with the use of mostly, and that's been my experience. Did you take a poll or are you just upset that they're here? -- Nom=de=Plume Mostly is a quantity. I am ****ed about the illegals. I have legal friends that are Hispanic. Including a son in law. I speak enough Spanish to hold a conversation in a Spanish speaking country with a non English speaker. We could end the illegal problem by the end of the week. Pass another Bracero Bill. Work permits. We allow 100,00's of thousands of educated workers in to keep down the wages in the professional disciplines using the H-1 visa program. I worked along side Bracero's as a teenager. No problem with them. But we have caused the major problem with illegal immigrants by awarding them benefits, and then amnesty. Pays to break the law and come here without papers. Ok. Well, I'm ****ed about illegals also. We have plenty of laws on the books already. It's a matter of money for enforcement. And, it's not economically or logistically possible to deport 12 million people all at a time. The current budget calls for an increase in funding for enforcement, mostly auditing companies that are likely to hire illegals. That is progressing, but too slowly. There are also technical mechanisms (e.g., actually being able to cross-ref social security numbers with birth dates, etc.) that would help find those who use forged documents. We need to have better border security, not so much for the Mexican/South of the Border groups, as for terrorists. We don't need civilians armed to the teeth patrolling the border. That's just dumb on a number of levels. Nothing wrong with spotters, but they need to be able to call law enforcement to take action. -- Nom=de=Plume But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. Huh? If a company is found to be deliberately hiring illegals, it's a big deal. What were the previous administrations doing? Nothing. At least something is starting to happen. -- Nom=de=Plume The previous administration had some huge raids, netting lots of illegals. Be outcry over the poor peons being busted. And Tyson Farms, who is a big Dem contributor, cried wolf. The previous administration did little and underfunded the program of enforcement. They made a couple of show raids, and that was about it. Suggestion: Get your head out of Dick Cheney's butt. -- Nom=de=Plume \ Get your head out of Reid's but. You're the one who keeps the dream of the last crappy administration alive. -- Nom=de=Plume I did not vote for the last administration and figured this one may be OK. Wrong on this one being OK. I doubt it. You don't sound like someone who would miss a chance at voting for Bush/Cheney. -- Nom=de=Plume Bad judge of character had to be added to your resume. You're a liar. You lied about your "patents" among other things. -- Nom=de=Plume You are an imcompetent patent person if you can not find my disk drive patent. You're a liar. Nothing like that is in the database under the name you're using. -- Nom=de=Plume Incompetent troll. I think Nincdepoop has called everyone in the group a liar...except Harry, of course. -- "Your honor can never be taken from you. Cherish it, in yourself and in others." (Unknown) John H |
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Bill McKee wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message You're a liar. Nothing like that is in the database under the name you're using. -- Nom=de=Plume Incompetent troll. Maybe she doesn't know Bill is short for William? I don't think so. I had no trouble finding your patent using google. No "database" needed. Well, google is essentially a database. Took all of 10 seconds. But you're probably right about her being a troll. The giveaway is "under the name you're using." Cute. A dishonest way to try to cut somebody down. |
Those damn Canadians..
On 3/7/10 8:21 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:07:43 -0800, "Bill wrote: wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message ... wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Point is, Richard, that you paint yourself (and have many believers on the right as a result of doing so) as a non-partisan but your stripes shine through in the most obvious way. Believe me when I say you have no idea what my "stripes" are. You have a lot to say for someone who is so ignorant of facts. I expect crickets or a punt, so don't feel the need to respond. You won't disappoint me. Cuz, like you, I really don't give a **** what you think. Absolutely incorrect. I do care. I just don't respond well to narrow minded, ill tempered and mean spirited people who have no tolerance for points of view other than their own. You seem to have joined the "them against us" mindset, regardless of political persuasion. Discussing issues with people like yourself (who would likely be characterized as far more of an extremist than I) is pointless. Hope your business is doing well. Eisboch I don't think you addressed this point... If a "conservative" would make a comment about a Hispanic, it'd be along the lines of "illegal, shiftless, lazy, freeloader, scab, etc." And you count Plume's comment about the Hispanic population being family-oriented and warm as being equivalently racist. Is something about the second statement derogatory or do you find warm, family-oriented people to be offensive? -- Nom=de=Plume GOOD GRIEF! Eisboch So, you refuse to address the point. Ok. -- Nom=de=Plume All those hispanics warm and loving. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...ecentersffe c $1.4 Billion to incarerate illegals and they are mostly hispanic. How many more hispanics that are legal are incarcerated? Please show me where I said "all" Hispanics. Please show me where "all" white are honest citizens. -- Nom=de=Plume You insinuated that there were very few not warm and loving. Actually, I said, "They are mostly a warm, friendly people who care about family and community." I made no comment about a quantity, except with the use of mostly, and that's been my experience. Did you take a poll or are you just upset that they're here? -- Nom=de=Plume Mostly is a quantity. I am ****ed about the illegals. I have legal friends that are Hispanic. Including a son in law. I speak enough Spanish to hold a conversation in a Spanish speaking country with a non English speaker. We could end the illegal problem by the end of the week. Pass another Bracero Bill. Work permits. We allow 100,00's of thousands of educated workers in to keep down the wages in the professional disciplines using the H-1 visa program. I worked along side Bracero's as a teenager. No problem with them. But we have caused the major problem with illegal immigrants by awarding them benefits, and then amnesty. Pays to break the law and come here without papers. Ok. Well, I'm ****ed about illegals also. We have plenty of laws on the books already. It's a matter of money for enforcement. And, it's not economically or logistically possible to deport 12 million people all at a time. The current budget calls for an increase in funding for enforcement, mostly auditing companies that are likely to hire illegals. That is progressing, but too slowly. There are also technical mechanisms (e.g., actually being able to cross-ref social security numbers with birth dates, etc.) that would help find those who use forged documents. We need to have better border security, not so much for the Mexican/South of the Border groups, as for terrorists. We don't need civilians armed to the teeth patrolling the border. That's just dumb on a number of levels. Nothing wrong with spotters, but they need to be able to call law enforcement to take action. -- Nom=de=Plume But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. Huh? If a company is found to be deliberately hiring illegals, it's a big deal. What were the previous administrations doing? Nothing. At least something is starting to happen. -- Nom=de=Plume The previous administration had some huge raids, netting lots of illegals. Be outcry over the poor peons being busted. And Tyson Farms, who is a big Dem contributor, cried wolf. The previous administration did little and underfunded the program of enforcement. They made a couple of show raids, and that was about it. Suggestion: Get your head out of Dick Cheney's butt. -- Nom=de=Plume \ Get your head out of Reid's but. You're the one who keeps the dream of the last crappy administration alive. -- Nom=de=Plume I did not vote for the last administration and figured this one may be OK. Wrong on this one being OK. I doubt it. You don't sound like someone who would miss a chance at voting for Bush/Cheney. -- Nom=de=Plume Bad judge of character had to be added to your resume. You're a liar. You lied about your "patents" among other things. -- Nom=de=Plume You are an imcompetent patent person if you can not find my disk drive patent. You're a liar. Nothing like that is in the database under the name you're using. -- Nom=de=Plume Incompetent troll. I think Nincdepoop has called everyone in the group a liar...except Harry, of course. Well, you are a liar, but that is the least of your shortcomings. -- Which one is the girl? http://tinyurl.com/ycpsnzz |
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "jps" wrote in message ... Point is, Richard, that you paint yourself (and have many believers on the right as a result of doing so) as a non-partisan but your stripes shine through in the most obvious way. Believe me when I say you have no idea what my "stripes" are. You have a lot to say for someone who is so ignorant of facts. I expect crickets or a punt, so don't feel the need to respond. You won't disappoint me. Cuz, like you, I really don't give a **** what you think. Absolutely incorrect. I do care. I just don't respond well to narrow minded, ill tempered and mean spirited people who have no tolerance for points of view other than their own. You seem to have joined the "them against us" mindset, regardless of political persuasion. Discussing issues with people like yourself (who would likely be characterized as far more of an extremist than I) is pointless. Hope your business is doing well. Eisboch I don't think you addressed this point... If a "conservative" would make a comment about a Hispanic, it'd be along the lines of "illegal, shiftless, lazy, freeloader, scab, etc." And you count Plume's comment about the Hispanic population being family-oriented and warm as being equivalently racist. Is something about the second statement derogatory or do you find warm, family-oriented people to be offensive? -- Nom=de=Plume GOOD GRIEF! Eisboch So, you refuse to address the point. Ok. -- Nom=de=Plume All those hispanics warm and loving. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...ecentersffe c $1.4 Billion to incarerate illegals and they are mostly hispanic. How many more hispanics that are legal are incarcerated? Please show me where I said "all" Hispanics. Please show me where "all" white are honest citizens. -- Nom=de=Plume You insinuated that there were very few not warm and loving. Actually, I said, "They are mostly a warm, friendly people who care about family and community." I made no comment about a quantity, except with the use of mostly, and that's been my experience. Did you take a poll or are you just upset that they're here? -- Nom=de=Plume Mostly is a quantity. I am ****ed about the illegals. I have legal friends that are Hispanic. Including a son in law. I speak enough Spanish to hold a conversation in a Spanish speaking country with a non English speaker. We could end the illegal problem by the end of the week. Pass another Bracero Bill. Work permits. We allow 100,00's of thousands of educated workers in to keep down the wages in the professional disciplines using the H-1 visa program. I worked along side Bracero's as a teenager. No problem with them. But we have caused the major problem with illegal immigrants by awarding them benefits, and then amnesty. Pays to break the law and come here without papers. Ok. Well, I'm ****ed about illegals also. We have plenty of laws on the books already. It's a matter of money for enforcement. And, it's not economically or logistically possible to deport 12 million people all at a time. The current budget calls for an increase in funding for enforcement, mostly auditing companies that are likely to hire illegals. That is progressing, but too slowly. There are also technical mechanisms (e.g., actually being able to cross-ref social security numbers with birth dates, etc.) that would help find those who use forged documents. We need to have better border security, not so much for the Mexican/South of the Border groups, as for terrorists. We don't need civilians armed to the teeth patrolling the border. That's just dumb on a number of levels. Nothing wrong with spotters, but they need to be able to call law enforcement to take action. -- Nom=de=Plume But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. Huh? If a company is found to be deliberately hiring illegals, it's a big deal. What were the previous administrations doing? Nothing. At least something is starting to happen. -- Nom=de=Plume The previous administration had some huge raids, netting lots of illegals. Be outcry over the poor peons being busted. And Tyson Farms, who is a big Dem contributor, cried wolf. The previous administration did little and underfunded the program of enforcement. They made a couple of show raids, and that was about it. Suggestion: Get your head out of Dick Cheney's butt. -- Nom=de=Plume \ Get your head out of Reid's but. You're the one who keeps the dream of the last crappy administration alive. -- Nom=de=Plume I did not vote for the last administration and figured this one may be OK. Wrong on this one being OK. I doubt it. You don't sound like someone who would miss a chance at voting for Bush/Cheney. -- Nom=de=Plume Bad judge of character had to be added to your resume. You're a liar. You lied about your "patents" among other things. -- Nom=de=Plume You are an imcompetent patent person if you can not find my disk drive patent. You're a liar. Nothing like that is in the database under the name you're using. -- Nom=de=Plume Incompetent troll. Sure, whatever. You're still a liar. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Frogloogyherringsnacks" wrote in message
... Bill McKee wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message You're a liar. Nothing like that is in the database under the name you're using. -- Nom=de=Plume Incompetent troll. Maybe she doesn't know Bill is short for William? I don't think so. I had no trouble finding your patent using google. No "database" needed. Well, google is essentially a database. Took all of 10 seconds. But you're probably right about her being a troll. The giveaway is "under the name you're using." Cute. A dishonest way to try to cut somebody down. Maybe when you do your search on google you have a way of narrowing down the 14K hits. Maybe when I asked him specifically what name it was under and he replied Bill McKee he should have said William McKee. Is he William McKee, Jr.? He's a liar and you're a fool. -- Nom=de=Plume |
Those damn Canadians..
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Frogloogyherringsnacks" wrote in message ... Bill McKee wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message You're a liar. Nothing like that is in the database under the name you're using. -- Nom=de=Plume Incompetent troll. Maybe she doesn't know Bill is short for William? I don't think so. I had no trouble finding your patent using google. No "database" needed. Well, google is essentially a database. Took all of 10 seconds. But you're probably right about her being a troll. The giveaway is "under the name you're using." Cute. A dishonest way to try to cut somebody down. Maybe when you do your search on google you have a way of narrowing down the 14K hits. Maybe when I asked him specifically what name it was under and he replied Bill McKee he should have said William McKee. Is he William McKee, Jr.? He's a liar and you're a fool. Right. I type william mckee disk drive patent into google and the very first entry is http://news.google.com/patents/about?id=wwAjAAAAEBAJ All the patent info right there. 10 seconds. It fits what Bill has talked about before. Difference between me and you is I don't just assume somebody is lying because I don't agree with their opinions. Difference between you and Bill is he isn't lying. Even uses his real name to post. Don't blame me you can't figure out to find a patent when you have all the info you need. You don't get paid for that, do you? If so, consider yourself a member of "The Bull**** Economy." People with no real skill finding a niche. Most home inspectors used by new home lenders fit right in there. Most don't know squat about homes, but know the formulated moves to make, the RE agents to butter up and kick back to for referrals, and what fee the market will bear for their "services." So it figures you had difficulty finding Bill's patent. Be proud of yourself. Nice racket you've got. And go on calling people names when you disagree with them. Nobody cares, but if it makes you feel good, why not? |
Those damn Canadians..
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Point is, Richard, that you paint yourself (and have many believers on the right as a result of doing so) as a non-partisan but your stripes shine through in the most obvious way. Believe me when I say you have no idea what my "stripes" are. You have a lot to say for someone who is so ignorant of facts. I expect crickets or a punt, so don't feel the need to respond. You won't disappoint me. Cuz, like you, I really don't give a **** what you think. Absolutely incorrect. I do care. I just don't respond well to narrow minded, ill tempered and mean spirited people who have no tolerance for points of view other than their own. You seem to have joined the "them against us" mindset, regardless of political persuasion. Discussing issues with people like yourself (who would likely be characterized as far more of an extremist than I) is pointless. Hope your business is doing well. Eisboch I don't think you addressed this point... If a "conservative" would make a comment about a Hispanic, it'd be along the lines of "illegal, shiftless, lazy, freeloader, scab, etc." And you count Plume's comment about the Hispanic population being family-oriented and warm as being equivalently racist. Is something about the second statement derogatory or do you find warm, family-oriented people to be offensive? -- Nom=de=Plume GOOD GRIEF! Eisboch So, you refuse to address the point. Ok. -- Nom=de=Plume All those hispanics warm and loving. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...ecentersffe c $1.4 Billion to incarerate illegals and they are mostly hispanic. How many more hispanics that are legal are incarcerated? Please show me where I said "all" Hispanics. Please show me where "all" white are honest citizens. -- Nom=de=Plume You insinuated that there were very few not warm and loving. Actually, I said, "They are mostly a warm, friendly people who care about family and community." I made no comment about a quantity, except with the use of mostly, and that's been my experience. Did you take a poll or are you just upset that they're here? -- Nom=de=Plume Mostly is a quantity. I am ****ed about the illegals. I have legal friends that are Hispanic. Including a son in law. I speak enough Spanish to hold a conversation in a Spanish speaking country with a non English speaker. We could end the illegal problem by the end of the week. Pass another Bracero Bill. Work permits. We allow 100,00's of thousands of educated workers in to keep down the wages in the professional disciplines using the H-1 visa program. I worked along side Bracero's as a teenager. No problem with them. But we have caused the major problem with illegal immigrants by awarding them benefits, and then amnesty. Pays to break the law and come here without papers. Ok. Well, I'm ****ed about illegals also. We have plenty of laws on the books already. It's a matter of money for enforcement. And, it's not economically or logistically possible to deport 12 million people all at a time. The current budget calls for an increase in funding for enforcement, mostly auditing companies that are likely to hire illegals. That is progressing, but too slowly. There are also technical mechanisms (e.g., actually being able to cross-ref social security numbers with birth dates, etc.) that would help find those who use forged documents. We need to have better border security, not so much for the Mexican/South of the Border groups, as for terrorists. We don't need civilians armed to the teeth patrolling the border. That's just dumb on a number of levels. Nothing wrong with spotters, but they need to be able to call law enforcement to take action. -- Nom=de=Plume But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. Huh? If a company is found to be deliberately hiring illegals, it's a big deal. What were the previous administrations doing? Nothing. At least something is starting to happen. -- Nom=de=Plume The previous administration had some huge raids, netting lots of illegals. Be outcry over the poor peons being busted. And Tyson Farms, who is a big Dem contributor, cried wolf. The previous administration did little and underfunded the program of enforcement. They made a couple of show raids, and that was about it. Suggestion: Get your head out of Dick Cheney's butt. -- Nom=de=Plume \ Get your head out of Reid's but. You're the one who keeps the dream of the last crappy administration alive. -- Nom=de=Plume I did not vote for the last administration and figured this one may be OK. Wrong on this one being OK. I doubt it. You don't sound like someone who would miss a chance at voting for Bush/Cheney. -- Nom=de=Plume Bad judge of character had to be added to your resume. You're a liar. You lied about your "patents" among other things. -- Nom=de=Plume You are an imcompetent patent person if you can not find my disk drive patent. You're a liar. Nothing like that is in the database under the name you're using. -- Nom=de=Plume Incompetent troll. Sure, whatever. You're still a liar. -- Nom=de=Plume The guy who posted my patent, shows you to be a liar about being a patent atty. |
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"Frogloogyherringsnacks" wrote in message
... nom=de=plume wrote: "Frogloogyherringsnacks" wrote in message ... Bill McKee wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message You're a liar. Nothing like that is in the database under the name you're using. -- Nom=de=Plume Incompetent troll. Maybe she doesn't know Bill is short for William? I don't think so. I had no trouble finding your patent using google. No "database" needed. Well, google is essentially a database. Took all of 10 seconds. But you're probably right about her being a troll. The giveaway is "under the name you're using." Cute. A dishonest way to try to cut somebody down. Maybe when you do your search on google you have a way of narrowing down the 14K hits. Maybe when I asked him specifically what name it was under and he replied Bill McKee he should have said William McKee. Is he William McKee, Jr.? He's a liar and you're a fool. Right. I type william mckee disk drive patent into google and the very first entry is http://news.google.com/patents/about?id=wwAjAAAAEBAJ All the patent info right there. 10 seconds. It fits what Bill has talked about before. Difference between me and you is I don't just assume somebody is lying because I don't agree with their opinions. Difference between you and Bill is he isn't lying. Even uses his real name to post. Don't blame me you can't figure out to find a patent when you have all the info you need. You don't get paid for that, do you? If so, consider yourself a member of "The Bull**** Economy." People with no real skill finding a niche. Most home inspectors used by new home lenders fit right in there. Most don't know squat about homes, but know the formulated moves to make, the RE agents to butter up and kick back to for referrals, and what fee the market will bear for their "services." So it figures you had difficulty finding Bill's patent. Be proud of yourself. Nice racket you've got. And go on calling people names when you disagree with them. Nobody cares, but if it makes you feel good, why not? Oh, except that he never said what his patent was about. So, typing William McKee patent in google isn't going to find it. See my comment about you being a fool for additional information. Oh, and you're a bozo also. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"CalifBill" wrote in message
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Point is, Richard, that you paint yourself (and have many believers on the right as a result of doing so) as a non-partisan but your stripes shine through in the most obvious way. Believe me when I say you have no idea what my "stripes" are. You have a lot to say for someone who is so ignorant of facts. I expect crickets or a punt, so don't feel the need to respond. You won't disappoint me. Cuz, like you, I really don't give a **** what you think. Absolutely incorrect. I do care. I just don't respond well to narrow minded, ill tempered and mean spirited people who have no tolerance for points of view other than their own. You seem to have joined the "them against us" mindset, regardless of political persuasion. Discussing issues with people like yourself (who would likely be characterized as far more of an extremist than I) is pointless. Hope your business is doing well. Eisboch I don't think you addressed this point... If a "conservative" would make a comment about a Hispanic, it'd be along the lines of "illegal, shiftless, lazy, freeloader, scab, etc." And you count Plume's comment about the Hispanic population being family-oriented and warm as being equivalently racist. Is something about the second statement derogatory or do you find warm, family-oriented people to be offensive? -- Nom=de=Plume GOOD GRIEF! Eisboch So, you refuse to address the point. Ok. -- Nom=de=Plume All those hispanics warm and loving. http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...ecentersffe c $1.4 Billion to incarerate illegals and they are mostly hispanic. How many more hispanics that are legal are incarcerated? Please show me where I said "all" Hispanics. Please show me where "all" white are honest citizens. -- Nom=de=Plume You insinuated that there were very few not warm and loving. Actually, I said, "They are mostly a warm, friendly people who care about family and community." I made no comment about a quantity, except with the use of mostly, and that's been my experience. Did you take a poll or are you just upset that they're here? -- Nom=de=Plume Mostly is a quantity. I am ****ed about the illegals. I have legal friends that are Hispanic. Including a son in law. I speak enough Spanish to hold a conversation in a Spanish speaking country with a non English speaker. We could end the illegal problem by the end of the week. Pass another Bracero Bill. Work permits. We allow 100,00's of thousands of educated workers in to keep down the wages in the professional disciplines using the H-1 visa program. I worked along side Bracero's as a teenager. No problem with them. But we have caused the major problem with illegal immigrants by awarding them benefits, and then amnesty. Pays to break the law and come here without papers. Ok. Well, I'm ****ed about illegals also. We have plenty of laws on the books already. It's a matter of money for enforcement. And, it's not economically or logistically possible to deport 12 million people all at a time. The current budget calls for an increase in funding for enforcement, mostly auditing companies that are likely to hire illegals. That is progressing, but too slowly. There are also technical mechanisms (e.g., actually being able to cross-ref social security numbers with birth dates, etc.) that would help find those who use forged documents. We need to have better border security, not so much for the Mexican/South of the Border groups, as for terrorists. We don't need civilians armed to the teeth patrolling the border. That's just dumb on a number of levels. Nothing wrong with spotters, but they need to be able to call law enforcement to take action. -- Nom=de=Plume But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the nation. Huh? If a company is found to be deliberately hiring illegals, it's a big deal. What were the previous administrations doing? Nothing. At least something is starting to happen. -- Nom=de=Plume The previous administration had some huge raids, netting lots of illegals. Be outcry over the poor peons being busted. And Tyson Farms, who is a big Dem contributor, cried wolf. The previous administration did little and underfunded the program of enforcement. They made a couple of show raids, and that was about it. Suggestion: Get your head out of Dick Cheney's butt. -- Nom=de=Plume \ Get your head out of Reid's but. You're the one who keeps the dream of the last crappy administration alive. -- Nom=de=Plume I did not vote for the last administration and figured this one may be OK. Wrong on this one being OK. I doubt it. You don't sound like someone who would miss a chance at voting for Bush/Cheney. -- Nom=de=Plume Bad judge of character had to be added to your resume. You're a liar. You lied about your "patents" among other things. -- Nom=de=Plume You are an imcompetent patent person if you can not find my disk drive patent. You're a liar. Nothing like that is in the database under the name you're using. -- Nom=de=Plume Incompetent troll. Sure, whatever. You're still a liar. -- Nom=de=Plume The guy who posted my patent, shows you to be a liar about being a patent atty. "The guy"? Which guy? Your imaginary 6' tall friend? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"Frogloogyherringsnacks" wrote in message ... Bill McKee wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message You're a liar. Nothing like that is in the database under the name you're using. -- Nom=de=Plume Incompetent troll. Maybe she doesn't know Bill is short for William? I don't think so. I had no trouble finding your patent using google. No "database" needed. Well, google is essentially a database. Took all of 10 seconds. But you're probably right about her being a troll. The giveaway is "under the name you're using." Cute. A dishonest way to try to cut somebody down. I put my name and "patent" in Google. Returned as number two on the list, the first being a Richard with a last name spelled differently than mine. I didn't Google using "Eisboch". I have bad memories of dealing with patent attorneys. When I sold my company and the buyer began the due diligence process, two patent attorneys were the first people I met with. One was a corporate type for the buyer, the other was a hired consultant. Spent the better part of two days with them, and finally they left to go do whatever it is that they do. We then went through the (almost 3 month) exhausting process of due diligence, looking at all our financials, taxes, liabilities, etc. and I was getting worn out by the whole process. The buyer was a large, public company and had many resources, including a staff of lawyers, accountants and marketing types. Any small business owner who goes through this will understand how grueling the process is and at some point you basically become committed to the deal, just to get it over with. The day before the official closing (almost 3 months later) the two patent attorneys came back with a 3 inch stack of patent copies. They started going through them, one by one, asking if we built anything like what was on the patent papers. It was ridiculous. It was like being Ford and the attorney hands you a patent by Chevrolet and asks if you make anything similar. The CEO of the acquiring company was a gruff, tough talking, no-nonsense type and nobody in his company cherished getting on his radar screen. By 8 pm, the evening before the closing, we were only halfway through the stack of papers that his patent attorneys had prepared. Exasperated, I called for a break and told them that I had had enough and one of them was going to have to call the CEO of their company and tell him the closing would have to be postponed to a later date because we still had a pile of papers to go through. The patent attorneys looked at each other with panic in their faces, picked up the remaining paperwork and stuffed it into their briefcases. They then announced that everything was fine, there didn't appear to be any patent conflicts or infringements to be concerned with and left. The closing occurred on time the next morning. Eisboch |
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On 3/8/10 8:00 AM, Eisboch wrote:
om wrote in message ... Bill McKee wrote: wrote in message You're a liar. Nothing like that is in the database under the name you're using. -- Nom=de=Plume Incompetent troll. Maybe she doesn't know Bill is short for William? I don't think so. I had no trouble finding your patent using google. No "database" needed. Well, google is essentially a database. Took all of 10 seconds. But you're probably right about her being a troll. The giveaway is "under the name you're using." Cute. A dishonest way to try to cut somebody down. I put my name and "patent" in Google. Returned as number two on the list, the first being a Richard with a last name spelled differently than mine. I didn't Google using "Eisboch". I have bad memories of dealing with patent attorneys. When I sold my company and the buyer began the due diligence process, two patent attorneys were the first people I met with. One was a corporate type for the buyer, the other was a hired consultant. Spent the better part of two days with them, and finally they left to go do whatever it is that they do. We then went through the (almost 3 month) exhausting process of due diligence, looking at all our financials, taxes, liabilities, etc. and I was getting worn out by the whole process. The buyer was a large, public company and had many resources, including a staff of lawyers, accountants and marketing types. Any small business owner who goes through this will understand how grueling the process is and at some point you basically become committed to the deal, just to get it over with. The day before the official closing (almost 3 months later) the two patent attorneys came back with a 3 inch stack of patent copies. They started going through them, one by one, asking if we built anything like what was on the patent papers. It was ridiculous. It was like being Ford and the attorney hands you a patent by Chevrolet and asks if you make anything similar. The CEO of the acquiring company was a gruff, tough talking, no-nonsense type and nobody in his company cherished getting on his radar screen. By 8 pm, the evening before the closing, we were only halfway through the stack of papers that his patent attorneys had prepared. Exasperated, I called for a break and told them that I had had enough and one of them was going to have to call the CEO of their company and tell him the closing would have to be postponed to a later date because we still had a pile of papers to go through. The patent attorneys looked at each other with panic in their faces, picked up the remaining paperwork and stuffed it into their briefcases. They then announced that everything was fine, there didn't appear to be any patent conflicts or infringements to be concerned with and left. The closing occurred on time the next morning. Eisboch Sounds like they billed by the hour and wanted to rack up a lot more hours... BTW, local paper here had a nice spread about the "third-largest" guitar manufacturer in the USA being right in our backyards. Paul Reed Smith Guitars URL: http://www.bayweekly.com/year10/issue_9/lead_1.html |
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On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:00:41 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Frogloogyherringsnacks" wrote in message ... Bill McKee wrote: "nom=de=plume" wrote in message You're a liar. Nothing like that is in the database under the name you're using. -- Nom=de=Plume Incompetent troll. Maybe she doesn't know Bill is short for William? I don't think so. I had no trouble finding your patent using google. No "database" needed. Well, google is essentially a database. Took all of 10 seconds. But you're probably right about her being a troll. The giveaway is "under the name you're using." Cute. A dishonest way to try to cut somebody down. I put my name and "patent" in Google. Returned as number two on the list, the first being a Richard with a last name spelled differently than mine. I didn't Google using "Eisboch". I have bad memories of dealing with patent attorneys. When I sold my company and the buyer began the due diligence process, two patent attorneys were the first people I met with. One was a corporate type for the buyer, the other was a hired consultant. Spent the better part of two days with them, and finally they left to go do whatever it is that they do. We then went through the (almost 3 month) exhausting process of due diligence, looking at all our financials, taxes, liabilities, etc. and I was getting worn out by the whole process. The buyer was a large, public company and had many resources, including a staff of lawyers, accountants and marketing types. Any small business owner who goes through this will understand how grueling the process is and at some point you basically become committed to the deal, just to get it over with. The day before the official closing (almost 3 months later) the two patent attorneys came back with a 3 inch stack of patent copies. They started going through them, one by one, asking if we built anything like what was on the patent papers. It was ridiculous. It was like being Ford and the attorney hands you a patent by Chevrolet and asks if you make anything similar. The CEO of the acquiring company was a gruff, tough talking, no-nonsense type and nobody in his company cherished getting on his radar screen. By 8 pm, the evening before the closing, we were only halfway through the stack of papers that his patent attorneys had prepared. Exasperated, I called for a break and told them that I had had enough and one of them was going to have to call the CEO of their company and tell him the closing would have to be postponed to a later date because we still had a pile of papers to go through. The patent attorneys looked at each other with panic in their faces, picked up the remaining paperwork and stuffed it into their briefcases. They then announced that everything was fine, there didn't appear to be any patent conflicts or infringements to be concerned with and left. The closing occurred on time the next morning. Eisboch Do you know to whom you're responding? -- "Your honor can never be taken from you. Cherish it, in yourself and in others." (Unknown) John H |
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On 3/8/10 8:15 AM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:00:41 -0500, wrote: om wrote in message ... Bill McKee wrote: wrote in message You're a liar. Nothing like that is in the database under the name you're using. -- Nom=de=Plume Incompetent troll. Maybe she doesn't know Bill is short for William? I don't think so. I had no trouble finding your patent using google. No "database" needed. Well, google is essentially a database. Took all of 10 seconds. But you're probably right about her being a troll. The giveaway is "under the name you're using." Cute. A dishonest way to try to cut somebody down. I put my name and "patent" in Google. Returned as number two on the list, the first being a Richard with a last name spelled differently than mine. I didn't Google using "Eisboch". I have bad memories of dealing with patent attorneys. When I sold my company and the buyer began the due diligence process, two patent attorneys were the first people I met with. One was a corporate type for the buyer, the other was a hired consultant. Spent the better part of two days with them, and finally they left to go do whatever it is that they do. We then went through the (almost 3 month) exhausting process of due diligence, looking at all our financials, taxes, liabilities, etc. and I was getting worn out by the whole process. The buyer was a large, public company and had many resources, including a staff of lawyers, accountants and marketing types. Any small business owner who goes through this will understand how grueling the process is and at some point you basically become committed to the deal, just to get it over with. The day before the official closing (almost 3 months later) the two patent attorneys came back with a 3 inch stack of patent copies. They started going through them, one by one, asking if we built anything like what was on the patent papers. It was ridiculous. It was like being Ford and the attorney hands you a patent by Chevrolet and asks if you make anything similar. The CEO of the acquiring company was a gruff, tough talking, no-nonsense type and nobody in his company cherished getting on his radar screen. By 8 pm, the evening before the closing, we were only halfway through the stack of papers that his patent attorneys had prepared. Exasperated, I called for a break and told them that I had had enough and one of them was going to have to call the CEO of their company and tell him the closing would have to be postponed to a later date because we still had a pile of papers to go through. The patent attorneys looked at each other with panic in their faces, picked up the remaining paperwork and stuffed it into their briefcases. They then announced that everything was fine, there didn't appear to be any patent conflicts or infringements to be concerned with and left. The closing occurred on time the next morning. Eisboch Do you know to whom you're responding? Herring doesn't like it when posters respond to those he doesn't like. He actually believes he is in charge of something. snerk |
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"John H" wrote in message ... On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:00:41 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: Do you know to whom you're responding? -- "Your honor can never be taken from you. Cherish it, in yourself and in others." (Unknown) John H Nope. I've lost track of who's who in this newsgroup. I really just quickly browse the headers once in a while. Rec.boats is wrecked. Eisboch |
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Incompetent troll. I think Nincdepoop has called everyone in the group a liar...except Harry, of course. First of all I would note that I snipped almost 400 lines of headers and "you lied", "no you lied" and still the message loses nothing;) As to Plum, why would she mess with the fat brother in the cellar? Scotty -- Rowdy Mouse Racing, no crybabies! |
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On 3/8/10 8:37 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"John wrote in message ... On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:00:41 -0500, wrote: Do you know to whom you're responding? -- "Your honor can never be taken from you. Cherish it, in yourself and in others." (Unknown) John H Nope. I've lost track of who's who in this newsgroup. I really just quickly browse the headers once in a while. Rec.boats is wrecked. Eisboch Indeed it is. |
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On 3/8/10 8:41 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
Incompetent troll. I think Nincdepoop has called everyone in the group a liar...except Harry, of course. First of all I would note that I snipped almost 400 lines of headers and "you lied", "no you lied" and still the message loses nothing;) As to Plum, why would she mess with the fat brother in the cellar? Scotty Paid that hospital bill yet, Mr. "I can't get a job"? |
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On Mar 8, 8:46*am, HK wrote:
On 3/8/10 8:37 AM, Eisboch wrote: "John *wrote in message .. . On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:00:41 -0500, *wrote: Do you know to whom you're responding? -- "Your honor can never be taken from you. Cherish it, in yourself and in others." (Unknown) John H Nope. *I've lost track of who's who in this newsgroup. * I really just quickly browse the headers once in a while. Rec.boats is wrecked. Eisboch Indeed it is.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then leave, fat ass. |
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On 3/8/10 9:04 AM, Loogypicker wrote:
On Mar 8, 8:46 am, wrote: On 3/8/10 8:37 AM, Eisboch wrote: "John wrote in message ... On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:00:41 -0500, wrote: Do you know to whom you're responding? -- "Your honor can never be taken from you. Cherish it, in yourself and in others." (Unknown) John H Nope. I've lost track of who's who in this newsgroup. I really just quickly browse the headers once in a while. Rec.boats is wrecked. Eisboch Indeed it is.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then leave, fat ass. Poor Loogy. You have about as much ability to convince or enforce as herring, which is to say, none at all. You're an asshole, loogy. |
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On Mar 8, 9:08*am, HK wrote:
On 3/8/10 9:04 AM, Loogypicker wrote: On Mar 8, 8:46 am, *wrote: On 3/8/10 8:37 AM, Eisboch wrote: "John * *wrote in message ... On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:00:41 -0500, * *wrote: Do you know to whom you're responding? -- "Your honor can never be taken from you. Cherish it, in yourself and in others." (Unknown) John H Nope. *I've lost track of who's who in this newsgroup. * I really just quickly browse the headers once in a while. Rec.boats is wrecked. Eisboch Indeed it is.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then leave, fat ass. Poor Loogy. You have about as much ability to convince or enforce as herring, which is to say, none at all. You're an asshole, loogy.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you're such a loser that you have to lie about every aspect of your miserable life, fat ass. |
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