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Many of us simply do not want to take off for weeks to go cruising but
we do want to go places in our boats. This is why I have decided to
try "Incremental Cruising" whereby I go for a few days and then come
home and then go more.
This is not working as well as I would like because I have had a few
problems. However, I think it could work, particularly if I had lower
expectations (a sure way to success, lower your expectations) for how
far I go each day. Part of my reason for going is to eventually go to
the bahamas so slow progress in getting to the Fl east coast seems
like failure. However, I should probably learn to like the trip for
itself and not be so goal oriented.
Leaving the boat in marinas is working far better than I expected. It
seems that some marinas have weekly rates that are almost reasonable.
Gulfport Municipal Marina was about $150/wk and Royal Palm Marina is
about $170/wk. This is not cheap but the benefits seem to outweight
the cost. For example, there is a lot less worry about leaving the
boat in a marina than simply leaving her on the hook and the marinas
do have facilities you can use. They are also easy for the Enterprise
Car rental people to find. I had considered leaving my boat at anchor
but I have seen many boats, many much more expensive than mine
anchored long term and I have decided I do not like it. I would worry
too much.
One big problem is transit time in getting to and from where I leave
the boat. It takes about 5-6 hours driving and then there is the
rental car pick-up and drop-off time as well. This means you kill a
day at the beginning and end of a leg although at the beginning of a
leg I am driving my own car so it is less. This will get less
significant if I can take longer legs (more days).
My next leg, I will try for more quality time sailing (motor sailing
to keep up a minimum of 5 kts) and less rush to get somewhere although
I will be sailing with a destination.

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On 2/26/10 12:34 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Many of us simply do not want to take off for weeks to go cruising but
we do want to go places in our boats. This is why I have decided to
try "Incremental Cruising" whereby I go for a few days and then come
home and then go more.
This is not working as well as I would like because I have had a few
problems. However, I think it could work, particularly if I had lower
expectations (a sure way to success, lower your expectations) for how
far I go each day. Part of my reason for going is to eventually go to
the bahamas so slow progress in getting to the Fl east coast seems
like failure. However, I should probably learn to like the trip for
itself and not be so goal oriented.
Leaving the boat in marinas is working far better than I expected. It
seems that some marinas have weekly rates that are almost reasonable.
Gulfport Municipal Marina was about $150/wk and Royal Palm Marina is
about $170/wk. This is not cheap but the benefits seem to outweight
the cost. For example, there is a lot less worry about leaving the
boat in a marina than simply leaving her on the hook and the marinas
do have facilities you can use. They are also easy for the Enterprise
Car rental people to find. I had considered leaving my boat at anchor
but I have seen many boats, many much more expensive than mine
anchored long term and I have decided I do not like it. I would worry
too much.
One big problem is transit time in getting to and from where I leave
the boat. It takes about 5-6 hours driving and then there is the
rental car pick-up and drop-off time as well. This means you kill a
day at the beginning and end of a leg although at the beginning of a
leg I am driving my own car so it is less. This will get less
significant if I can take longer legs (more days).
My next leg, I will try for more quality time sailing (motor sailing
to keep up a minimum of 5 kts) and less rush to get somewhere although
I will be sailing with a destination.


If I were driving a boat in the state of disrepair of yours, I'd stay
within swimming distance of shore.

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Frogwatch wrote:
Many of us simply do not want to take off for weeks to go cruising but
we do want to go places in our boats. This is why I have decided to
try "Incremental Cruising" whereby I go for a few days and then come
home and then go more.
This is not working as well as I would like because I have had a few
problems. However, I think it could work, particularly if I had lower
expectations (a sure way to success, lower your expectations) for how
far I go each day. Part of my reason for going is to eventually go to
the bahamas so slow progress in getting to the Fl east coast seems
like failure. However, I should probably learn to like the trip for
itself and not be so goal oriented.
Leaving the boat in marinas is working far better than I expected. It
seems that some marinas have weekly rates that are almost reasonable.
Gulfport Municipal Marina was about $150/wk and Royal Palm Marina is
about $170/wk. This is not cheap but the benefits seem to outweight
the cost. For example, there is a lot less worry about leaving the
boat in a marina than simply leaving her on the hook and the marinas
do have facilities you can use. They are also easy for the Enterprise
Car rental people to find. I had considered leaving my boat at anchor
but I have seen many boats, many much more expensive than mine
anchored long term and I have decided I do not like it. I would worry
too much.
One big problem is transit time in getting to and from where I leave
the boat. It takes about 5-6 hours driving and then there is the
rental car pick-up and drop-off time as well. This means you kill a
day at the beginning and end of a leg although at the beginning of a
leg I am driving my own car so it is less. This will get less
significant if I can take longer legs (more days).
My next leg, I will try for more quality time sailing (motor sailing
to keep up a minimum of 5 kts) and less rush to get somewhere although
I will be sailing with a destination.

Ever think about carrying a small motorcycle on the boat?
Avoid that car rental.

Lib - Libs aren't bikers.

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On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:59:45 -0600, Jim "Jim wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
Many of us simply do not want to take off for weeks to go cruising but
we do want to go places in our boats. This is why I have decided to
try "Incremental Cruising" whereby I go for a few days and then come
home and then go more.
This is not working as well as I would like because I have had a few
problems. However, I think it could work, particularly if I had lower
expectations (a sure way to success, lower your expectations) for how
far I go each day. Part of my reason for going is to eventually go to
the bahamas so slow progress in getting to the Fl east coast seems
like failure. However, I should probably learn to like the trip for
itself and not be so goal oriented.
Leaving the boat in marinas is working far better than I expected. It
seems that some marinas have weekly rates that are almost reasonable.
Gulfport Municipal Marina was about $150/wk and Royal Palm Marina is
about $170/wk. This is not cheap but the benefits seem to outweight
the cost. For example, there is a lot less worry about leaving the
boat in a marina than simply leaving her on the hook and the marinas
do have facilities you can use. They are also easy for the Enterprise
Car rental people to find. I had considered leaving my boat at anchor
but I have seen many boats, many much more expensive than mine
anchored long term and I have decided I do not like it. I would worry
too much.
One big problem is transit time in getting to and from where I leave
the boat. It takes about 5-6 hours driving and then there is the
rental car pick-up and drop-off time as well. This means you kill a
day at the beginning and end of a leg although at the beginning of a
leg I am driving my own car so it is less. This will get less
significant if I can take longer legs (more days).
My next leg, I will try for more quality time sailing (motor sailing
to keep up a minimum of 5 kts) and less rush to get somewhere although
I will be sailing with a destination.

Ever think about carrying a small motorcycle on the boat?
Avoid that car rental.

Lib - Libs aren't bikers.

That sure does seem like a good idea.
--

John H

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In article , "Jim says...

Frogwatch wrote:
Many of us simply do not want to take off for weeks to go cruising but
we do want to go places in our boats. This is why I have decided to
try "Incremental Cruising" whereby I go for a few days and then come
home and then go more.
This is not working as well as I would like because I have had a few
problems. However, I think it could work, particularly if I had lower
expectations (a sure way to success, lower your expectations) for how
far I go each day. Part of my reason for going is to eventually go to
the bahamas so slow progress in getting to the Fl east coast seems
like failure. However, I should probably learn to like the trip for
itself and not be so goal oriented.
Leaving the boat in marinas is working far better than I expected. It
seems that some marinas have weekly rates that are almost reasonable.
Gulfport Municipal Marina was about $150/wk and Royal Palm Marina is
about $170/wk. This is not cheap but the benefits seem to outweight
the cost. For example, there is a lot less worry about leaving the
boat in a marina than simply leaving her on the hook and the marinas
do have facilities you can use. They are also easy for the Enterprise
Car rental people to find. I had considered leaving my boat at anchor
but I have seen many boats, many much more expensive than mine
anchored long term and I have decided I do not like it. I would worry
too much.
One big problem is transit time in getting to and from where I leave
the boat. It takes about 5-6 hours driving and then there is the
rental car pick-up and drop-off time as well. This means you kill a
day at the beginning and end of a leg although at the beginning of a
leg I am driving my own car so it is less. This will get less
significant if I can take longer legs (more days).
My next leg, I will try for more quality time sailing (motor sailing
to keep up a minimum of 5 kts) and less rush to get somewhere although
I will be sailing with a destination.

Ever think about carrying a small motorcycle on the boat?
Avoid that car rental.

Lib - Libs aren't bikers.

Without going to the pitbike type vehicle, this is about as small as he could
get.

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/pr...0/0/specs.aspx

At about 280 pounds and nearly 7 feet long by 2 feet wide, space on a boat
might be a problem. The other issue is getting it from the boat to shore. Not
that it couldn't be done, but it would take special consideration. Of course
with the wide tires and such, if it could be accommodated on board, it might be
a nice tool to have on a cruise to different ports.

All in all, you probably wouldn't want to ride it more than a couple of hours
in a stretch. Appx. cost with tax, $4500.00

Scotty

--
Can I haz Cheezeburger?

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I am Tosk wrote:
In article , "Jim says...
Frogwatch wrote:
Many of us simply do not want to take off for weeks to go cruising but
we do want to go places in our boats. This is why I have decided to
try "Incremental Cruising" whereby I go for a few days and then come
home and then go more.
This is not working as well as I would like because I have had a few
problems. However, I think it could work, particularly if I had lower
expectations (a sure way to success, lower your expectations) for how
far I go each day. Part of my reason for going is to eventually go to
the bahamas so slow progress in getting to the Fl east coast seems
like failure. However, I should probably learn to like the trip for
itself and not be so goal oriented.
Leaving the boat in marinas is working far better than I expected. It
seems that some marinas have weekly rates that are almost reasonable.
Gulfport Municipal Marina was about $150/wk and Royal Palm Marina is
about $170/wk. This is not cheap but the benefits seem to outweight
the cost. For example, there is a lot less worry about leaving the
boat in a marina than simply leaving her on the hook and the marinas
do have facilities you can use. They are also easy for the Enterprise
Car rental people to find. I had considered leaving my boat at anchor
but I have seen many boats, many much more expensive than mine
anchored long term and I have decided I do not like it. I would worry
too much.
One big problem is transit time in getting to and from where I leave
the boat. It takes about 5-6 hours driving and then there is the
rental car pick-up and drop-off time as well. This means you kill a
day at the beginning and end of a leg although at the beginning of a
leg I am driving my own car so it is less. This will get less
significant if I can take longer legs (more days).
My next leg, I will try for more quality time sailing (motor sailing
to keep up a minimum of 5 kts) and less rush to get somewhere although
I will be sailing with a destination.
Ever think about carrying a small motorcycle on the boat?
Avoid that car rental.

Lib - Libs aren't bikers.

Without going to the pitbike type vehicle, this is about as small as he could
get.

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/pr...0/0/specs.aspx

At about 280 pounds and nearly 7 feet long by 2 feet wide, space on a boat
might be a problem. The other issue is getting it from the boat to shore. Not
that it couldn't be done, but it would take special consideration. Of course
with the wide tires and such, if it could be accommodated on board, it might be
a nice tool to have on a cruise to different ports.

All in all, you probably wouldn't want to ride it more than a couple of hours
in a stretch. Appx. cost with tax, $4500.00

Scotty

Looks like it would be hard to make it work on Froggy's small boat.
Thanks, Scotty.

Lib - They don't even try to contribute to boat threads. Jerks.

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On Feb 26, 2:00*pm, Jim "Jim wrote:
I am Tosk wrote:
In article , "Jim says...
Frogwatch wrote:
Many of us simply do not want to take off for weeks to go cruising but
we do want to go places in our boats. *This is why I have decided to
try "Incremental Cruising" whereby I go for a few days and then come
home and then go more.
This is not working as well as I would like because I have had a few
problems. *However, I think it could work, particularly if I had lower
expectations (a sure way to success, lower your expectations) for how
far I go each day. *Part of my reason for going is to eventually go to
the bahamas so slow progress in getting to the Fl east coast seems
like failure. *However, I should probably learn to like the trip for
itself *and not be so goal oriented.
Leaving the boat in marinas is working far better than I expected. *It
seems that some marinas have weekly rates that are almost reasonable.
Gulfport Municipal Marina was about $150/wk and Royal Palm Marina is
about $170/wk. *This is not cheap but the benefits seem to outweight
the cost. *For example, there is a lot less worry about leaving the
boat in a marina than simply leaving her on the hook and the marinas
do have facilities you can use. *They are also easy for the Enterprise
Car rental people to find. I had considered leaving my boat at anchor
but I have seen many boats, many much more expensive than mine
anchored long term and I have decided I do not like it. *I would worry
too much.
One big problem is transit time in getting to and from where I leave
the boat. *It takes about 5-6 hours driving and then there is the
rental car pick-up and drop-off time as well. *This means you kill a
day at the beginning and end of a leg although at the beginning of a
leg I am driving my own car so it is less. *This will get less
significant if I can take longer legs (more days).
My next leg, I will try for more quality time sailing (motor sailing
to keep up a minimum of 5 kts) and less rush to get somewhere although
I will be sailing with a destination.
Ever think about carrying a small motorcycle on the boat?
Avoid that car rental.

Lib - Libs aren't bikers.

Without going to the pitbike type vehicle, this is about as small as he could
get.

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/pr...0/0/specs.aspx

At about 280 pounds and nearly 7 feet long by 2 feet wide, space on a boat
might be a problem. The other issue is getting it from the boat to shore. Not
that it couldn't be done, but it would take special consideration. Of course
with the wide tires and such, if it could be accommodated on board, it might be
a nice tool to have on a cruise to different ports.

All in all, you probably wouldn't want to ride it more than a couple of hours
in a stretch. Appx. cost with tax, $4500.00

Scotty

Looks like it would be hard to make it work on Froggy's small boat.
Thanks, Scotty.

Lib - They don't even try to contribute to boat threads. *Jerks.

I gave brief consideration to electric bicycles but decided they are
not worth it. If I was 15 yrs younger, I'd seriously consider simply
using a road bicycle as I used to ride 40 miles without much thought
at all. At age 53, enough wrist and knee problems to preclude much
bicycle riding.
Yes, a 28' boat does not have much on-deck space for anything besides
a dinghy and I am looking into getting rid of that .

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In article ,
says...

Looks like it would be hard to make it work on Froggy's small boat.
Thanks, Scotty.

Lib - They don't even try to contribute to boat threads. *Jerks.

I gave brief consideration to electric bicycles but decided they are
not worth it. If I was 15 yrs younger, I'd seriously consider simply
using a road bicycle as I used to ride 40 miles without much thought
at all. At age 53, enough wrist and knee problems to preclude much
bicycle riding.
Yes, a 28' boat does not have much on-deck space for anything besides
a dinghy and I am looking into getting rid of that .

Have you thought of a Porta-bot type dinghy? You can build one in an afternoon
or two, with a couple of pieces of 6mm, some canvas, and some adhesives. A
typical folding boat can fold down to about 4" thick by say, 2' by 10' and can
lay right up against a wall or lay on a roof very easily. I think I have plans
for one somewhere...

Scotty

--
Can I haz Cheezeburger?

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On 2/26/10 3:09 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

Looks like it would be hard to make it work on Froggy's small boat.
Thanks, Scotty.

Lib - They don't even try to contribute to boat threads. Jerks.

I gave brief consideration to electric bicycles but decided they are
not worth it. If I was 15 yrs younger, I'd seriously consider simply
using a road bicycle as I used to ride 40 miles without much thought
at all. At age 53, enough wrist and knee problems to preclude much
bicycle riding.
Yes, a 28' boat does not have much on-deck space for anything besides
a dinghy and I am looking into getting rid of that .

Have you thought of a Porta-bot type dinghy? You can build one in an afternoon
or two, with a couple of pieces of 6mm, some canvas, and some adhesives. A
typical folding boat can fold down to about 4" thick by say, 2' by 10' and can
lay right up against a wall or lay on a roof very easily. I think I have plans
for one somewhere...

Scotty



First you suggest he carry a motorcycle that won't fit on his boat and
would be difficult to get on and off of the boat, and now you suggest a
10' long chunkajunk that won't easily fit on his boat, either?

D'oh.

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