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Tim February 23rd 10 01:17 PM

manatee speed zone?
 
OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...t-manatees5385

mmc February 24th 10 12:05 AM

manatee speed zone?
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...t-manatees5385


Only way to solve this crisis is with a hunting season.



Tim February 24th 10 12:17 AM

manatee speed zone?
 
On Feb 23, 6:05*pm, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...

OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...-national-park...


Only way to solve this crisis is with a hunting season.


Well, i seriously wouldnt' go out and purposely bag one, but I wonder
what they taste like?

Wayne.B February 24th 10 02:18 AM

manatee speed zone?
 
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:17:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Feb 23, 6:05*pm, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...

OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...-national-park...


Only way to solve this crisis is with a hunting season.


Well, i seriously wouldnt' go out and purposely bag one, but I wonder
what they taste like?


The joke back in Florida is that they taste very much like eagle. :-)

John H[_12_] February 24th 10 04:42 PM

manatee speed zone?
 
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:17:30 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Feb 23, 6:05*pm, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...

OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...-national-park...


Only way to solve this crisis is with a hunting season.


Well, i seriously wouldnt' go out and purposely bag one, but I wonder
what they taste like?


Corn oil? Maybe just suet.
--

John H

Tim February 24th 10 04:49 PM

manatee speed zone?
 
On Feb 24, 10:42*am, John H wrote:
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:17:30 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Feb 23, 6:05 pm, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message


....


OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...-national-park....


Only way to solve this crisis is with a hunting season.


Well, i seriously wouldnt' go out and purposely bag one, but I wonder
what they taste like?


Corn oil? Maybe just suet.
--

John H


"Flubber?"

I am Tosk[_3_] February 24th 10 05:06 PM

manatee speed zone?
 
In article ,
says...

On Feb 24, 10:42*am, John H wrote:
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:17:30 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
On Feb 23, 6:05 pm, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message


...


OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...-national-park...

Only way to solve this crisis is with a hunting season.


Well, i seriously wouldnt' go out and purposely bag one, but I wonder
what they taste like?


Corn oil? Maybe just suet.
--

John H


"Flubber?"


Only a flatlander would know what Flubber tastes like!

Scotty

--
Can I haz Cheezeburger?

mmc February 24th 10 09:34 PM

manatee speed zone?
 

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:17:30 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Feb 23, 6:05 pm, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...

OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"

http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...-national-park...

Only way to solve this crisis is with a hunting season.


Well, i seriously wouldnt' go out and purposely bag one, but I wonder
what they taste like?


Chicken


I think it was at "Roadkill Cafe" in Altamonte that I saw on a menu: "Our
alligator doesn't taste like chicken, it tastes like alligator. If you want
something that tastes like chicken order the chicken, it's cheaper".



nom=de=plume February 25th 10 01:36 AM

manatee speed zone?
 
"Gene" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:27:54 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:06:55 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:17:10 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...t-manatees5385

Wow, speed zones through a national park.... what a novel idea! I bet
they even have those in Colorado Nation Parks.


I bet it isn't 5 MPH


It probably should be....

What sort of idiot would go blasting through an area, knowing that
they would likely hit wildlife (or anything else)?

Even by car, every day/night I go slow .... really slow .... through
areas I reasonably suspect are populated by deer, wild turkey, bear,
buzzard, etc.

With the boat, I don't want to hit a whale, manatee, sand bar,
submarine (yep, that "amber flashing light" *does* mean something) or
anything else...... slow the hell down.....

.... quit whining and pull back on the throttle.....



Well said Gene. Well said.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Tim February 25th 10 01:44 AM

manatee speed zone?
 
On Feb 24, 6:06*pm, Gene wrote:
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:17:10 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...-national-park...


Wow, speed zones through a national park.... what a novel idea! I bet
they even have those in Colorado Nation Parks.

--

Do they really have manatees in Colorado?

nom=de=plume February 25th 10 03:10 AM

manatee speed zone?
 
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:57:36 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:27:54 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:06:55 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:17:10 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...t-manatees5385

Wow, speed zones through a national park.... what a novel idea! I bet
they even have those in Colorado Nation Parks.

I bet it isn't 5 MPH


It probably should be....

What sort of idiot would go blasting through an area, knowing that
they would likely hit wildlife (or anything else)?

Even by car, every day/night I go slow .... really slow .... through
areas I reasonably suspect are populated by deer, wild turkey, bear,
buzzard, etc.

With the boat, I don't want to hit a whale, manatee, sand bar,
submarine (yep, that "amber flashing light" *does* mean something) or
anything else...... slow the hell down.....

.... quit whining and pull back on the throttle.....


Bear in mind we are talking about around a thousand square miles of
water in the estuary system in these 3 counties, not just a little
strip on the way to the Gulf.
There are people who have to idle up to 5 miles to get out. That tacks
2 hours onto your boat ride by the time you get home.



Such is the cost of enjoying nature... slow down, smell the seaweed instead
of the engine.

--
Nom=de=Plume



nom=de=plume February 25th 10 07:30 AM

manatee speed zone?
 
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:10:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:57:36 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:27:54 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:06:55 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:17:10 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...t-manatees5385

Wow, speed zones through a national park.... what a novel idea! I bet
they even have those in Colorado Nation Parks.

I bet it isn't 5 MPH

It probably should be....

What sort of idiot would go blasting through an area, knowing that
they would likely hit wildlife (or anything else)?

Even by car, every day/night I go slow .... really slow .... through
areas I reasonably suspect are populated by deer, wild turkey, bear,
buzzard, etc.

With the boat, I don't want to hit a whale, manatee, sand bar,
submarine (yep, that "amber flashing light" *does* mean something) or
anything else...... slow the hell down.....

.... quit whining and pull back on the throttle.....

Bear in mind we are talking about around a thousand square miles of
water in the estuary system in these 3 counties, not just a little
strip on the way to the Gulf.
There are people who have to idle up to 5 miles to get out. That tacks
2 hours onto your boat ride by the time you get home.



Such is the cost of enjoying nature... slow down, smell the seaweed
instead
of the engine.


I am really not the guy you people are hollaring at, we go pretty slow
most of the time but I also understand people who want to get offshore
to fish do not want to be chugging across the bay for 2 hours. It
should be pointed out, this came about after they bought their house,
assuming they had "gulf access" which they paid an extra $200,000 for.
The ironic thing is nobody has even proven these zones are saving
anything. It is just a feel good thing. If the water is less than 3
feet deep, you won't have any manatee there, at least none with their
ass under water, yet vast areas like that are still manatee zones.
As I said a while ago, these are politically selected, not
scientifically selected.



I wouldn't be the one yelling, but I see your point. I think it's probably a
combo between science and "unnatural" selection. As with most things, it's
an imperfect system. I would think that most people would err on the side of
caution and take it easy, but there are also those who drink and drive in
the rain no less. Someone trashed it out here tonight. Fortunately, no one
was seriously injured. Now, he gets a hospital stay and maybe some jail
time.

--
Nom=de=Plume



Frogwatch February 26th 10 12:55 AM

manatee speed zone?
 
On Feb 24, 11:30*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
wrote in message

...



On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:10:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:57:36 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:27:54 -0500, wrote:


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:06:55 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:17:10 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...-national-park...


Wow, speed zones through a national park.... what a novel idea! I bet
they even have those in Colorado Nation Parks.


I bet it isn't 5 MPH


It probably should be....


What sort of idiot would go blasting through an area, knowing that
they would likely hit wildlife (or anything else)?


Even by car, every day/night I go slow .... really slow .... through
areas I reasonably suspect are populated by deer, wild turkey, bear,
buzzard, etc.


With the boat, I don't want to hit a whale, manatee, sand bar,
submarine (yep, that "amber flashing light" *does* mean something) or
anything else...... slow the hell down.....


.... quit whining and pull back on the throttle.....


Bear in mind we are talking about around a thousand square miles of
water in the estuary system in these 3 counties, not just a little
strip on the way to the Gulf.
There are people who have to idle up to 5 miles to get out. That tacks
2 hours onto your boat ride by the time you get home.


Such is the cost of enjoying nature... slow down, smell the seaweed
instead
of the engine.


I am really not the guy you people are hollaring at, we go pretty slow
most of the time but I also understand people who want to get offshore
to fish do not want to be chugging across the bay for 2 hours. It
should be pointed out, this came about after they bought their house,
assuming they had "gulf access" which they paid an extra $200,000 for.
The ironic thing is nobody has even proven these zones are saving
anything. It is just a feel good thing. If the water is less than 3
feet deep, you won't have any manatee there, at least none with their
ass under water, yet vast areas like that are still manatee zones.
As I said a while ago, these are politically selected, not
scientifically selected.


I wouldn't be the one yelling, but I see your point. I think it's probably a
combo between science and "unnatural" selection. As with most things, it's
an imperfect system. I would think that most people would err on the side of
caution and take it easy, but there are also those who drink and drive in
the rain no less. Someone trashed it out here tonight. Fortunately, no one
was seriously injured. Now, he gets a hospital stay and maybe some jail
time.

--
Nom=de=Plume


I see manatees sleeping just below the surface so you cannot see em.
They do not seem afraid of even powerboats and seem to consider our
canoe to be another manatee. Somebody came up with a device that
emits a noise to wake up the manatees so they might get out of the way
of boats.
Seeing them up close and seeing the prop scars on em really makes you
want to come up with a solution but we need to figure out their lack
of response to boats first..

Frogwatch February 26th 10 01:45 AM

manatee speed zone?
 
On Feb 25, 4:55*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 24, 11:30*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



wrote in message


.. .


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:10:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:57:36 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:27:54 -0500, wrote:


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:06:55 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:17:10 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...-national-park...


Wow, speed zones through a national park.... what a novel idea! I bet
they even have those in Colorado Nation Parks.


I bet it isn't 5 MPH


It probably should be....


What sort of idiot would go blasting through an area, knowing that
they would likely hit wildlife (or anything else)?


Even by car, every day/night I go slow .... really slow .... through
areas I reasonably suspect are populated by deer, wild turkey, bear,
buzzard, etc.


With the boat, I don't want to hit a whale, manatee, sand bar,
submarine (yep, that "amber flashing light" *does* mean something) or
anything else...... slow the hell down.....


.... quit whining and pull back on the throttle.....


Bear in mind we are talking about around a thousand square miles of
water in the estuary system in these 3 counties, not just a little
strip on the way to the Gulf.
There are people who have to idle up to 5 miles to get out. That tacks
2 hours onto your boat ride by the time you get home.


Such is the cost of enjoying nature... slow down, smell the seaweed
instead
of the engine.


I am really not the guy you people are hollaring at, we go pretty slow
most of the time but I also understand people who want to get offshore
to fish do not want to be chugging across the bay for 2 hours. It
should be pointed out, this came about after they bought their house,
assuming they had "gulf access" which they paid an extra $200,000 for..
The ironic thing is nobody has even proven these zones are saving
anything. It is just a feel good thing. If the water is less than 3
feet deep, you won't have any manatee there, at least none with their
ass under water, yet vast areas like that are still manatee zones.
As I said a while ago, these are politically selected, not
scientifically selected.


I wouldn't be the one yelling, but I see your point. I think it's probably a
combo between science and "unnatural" selection. As with most things, it's
an imperfect system. I would think that most people would err on the side of
caution and take it easy, but there are also those who drink and drive in
the rain no less. Someone trashed it out here tonight. Fortunately, no one
was seriously injured. Now, he gets a hospital stay and maybe some jail
time.


--
Nom=de=Plume


I see manatees sleeping just below the surface so you cannot see em.
They do not seem afraid of even powerboats and seem to consider our
canoe to be another manatee. *Somebody came up with a device that
emits a noise to wake up the manatees so they might get out of the way
of boats.
Seeing them up close and seeing the prop scars on em really makes you
want to come up with a solution but we need to figure out their lack
of response to boats first..


Yesterday, I noticed the max speed on the ICW is 25 mph but outside
the ICW channel in manatee zones it is no wake.

TopBassDog February 26th 10 05:43 AM

manatee speed zone?
 
On Feb 24, 9:10*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
wrote in message

...



On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:57:36 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:27:54 -0500, wrote:


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:06:55 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:17:10 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...-national-park...


Wow, speed zones through a national park.... what a novel idea! I bet
they even have those in Colorado Nation Parks.


I bet it isn't 5 MPH


It probably should be....


What sort of idiot would go blasting through an area, knowing that
they would likely hit wildlife (or anything else)?


Even by car, every day/night I go slow .... really slow .... through
areas I reasonably suspect are populated by deer, wild turkey, bear,
buzzard, etc.


With the boat, I don't want to hit a whale, manatee, sand bar,
submarine (yep, that "amber flashing light" *does* mean something) or
anything else...... slow the hell down.....


.... quit whining and pull back on the throttle.....


Bear in mind we are talking about around a thousand square miles of
water in the estuary system in these 3 counties, not just a little
strip on the way to the Gulf.
There are people who have to idle up to 5 miles to get out. That tacks
2 hours onto your boat ride by the time you get home.


Such is the cost of enjoying nature... slow down, smell the seaweed instead
of the engine.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Brilliant reply D'Plume. But even to your standards it is still not
average.

TopBassDog February 26th 10 05:44 AM

manatee speed zone?
 
On Feb 25, 1:30*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
wrote in message

...



On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:10:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:57:36 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:27:54 -0500, wrote:


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:06:55 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:17:10 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...-national-park...


Wow, speed zones through a national park.... what a novel idea! I bet
they even have those in Colorado Nation Parks.


I bet it isn't 5 MPH


It probably should be....


What sort of idiot would go blasting through an area, knowing that
they would likely hit wildlife (or anything else)?


Even by car, every day/night I go slow .... really slow .... through
areas I reasonably suspect are populated by deer, wild turkey, bear,
buzzard, etc.


With the boat, I don't want to hit a whale, manatee, sand bar,
submarine (yep, that "amber flashing light" *does* mean something) or
anything else...... slow the hell down.....


.... quit whining and pull back on the throttle.....


Bear in mind we are talking about around a thousand square miles of
water in the estuary system in these 3 counties, not just a little
strip on the way to the Gulf.
There are people who have to idle up to 5 miles to get out. That tacks
2 hours onto your boat ride by the time you get home.


Such is the cost of enjoying nature... slow down, smell the seaweed
instead
of the engine.


I am really not the guy you people are hollaring at, we go pretty slow
most of the time but I also understand people who want to get offshore
to fish do not want to be chugging across the bay for 2 hours. It
should be pointed out, this came about after they bought their house,
assuming they had "gulf access" which they paid an extra $200,000 for.
The ironic thing is nobody has even proven these zones are saving
anything. It is just a feel good thing. If the water is less than 3
feet deep, you won't have any manatee there, at least none with their
ass under water, yet vast areas like that are still manatee zones.
As I said a while ago, these are politically selected, not
scientifically selected.


I wouldn't be the one yelling, but I see your point. I think it's probably a
combo between science and "unnatural" selection. As with most things, it's
an imperfect system. I would think that most people would err on the side of
caution and take it easy, but there are also those who drink and drive in
the rain no less. Someone trashed it out here tonight. Fortunately, no one
was seriously injured. Now, he gets a hospital stay and maybe some jail
time.

--
Nom=de=Plume


Your live-in, D'Plume?

Frogwatch[_2_] February 26th 10 03:37 PM

manatee speed zone?
 
On Feb 26, 12:44*am, TopBassDog wrote:
On Feb 25, 1:30*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



wrote in message


.. .


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:10:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:57:36 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:27:54 -0500, wrote:


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:06:55 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:17:10 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...-national-park...


Wow, speed zones through a national park.... what a novel idea! I bet
they even have those in Colorado Nation Parks.


I bet it isn't 5 MPH


It probably should be....


What sort of idiot would go blasting through an area, knowing that
they would likely hit wildlife (or anything else)?


Even by car, every day/night I go slow .... really slow .... through
areas I reasonably suspect are populated by deer, wild turkey, bear,
buzzard, etc.


With the boat, I don't want to hit a whale, manatee, sand bar,
submarine (yep, that "amber flashing light" *does* mean something) or
anything else...... slow the hell down.....


.... quit whining and pull back on the throttle.....


Bear in mind we are talking about around a thousand square miles of
water in the estuary system in these 3 counties, not just a little
strip on the way to the Gulf.
There are people who have to idle up to 5 miles to get out. That tacks
2 hours onto your boat ride by the time you get home.


Such is the cost of enjoying nature... slow down, smell the seaweed
instead
of the engine.


I am really not the guy you people are hollaring at, we go pretty slow
most of the time but I also understand people who want to get offshore
to fish do not want to be chugging across the bay for 2 hours. It
should be pointed out, this came about after they bought their house,
assuming they had "gulf access" which they paid an extra $200,000 for..
The ironic thing is nobody has even proven these zones are saving
anything. It is just a feel good thing. If the water is less than 3
feet deep, you won't have any manatee there, at least none with their
ass under water, yet vast areas like that are still manatee zones.
As I said a while ago, these are politically selected, not
scientifically selected.


I wouldn't be the one yelling, but I see your point. I think it's probably a
combo between science and "unnatural" selection. As with most things, it's
an imperfect system. I would think that most people would err on the side of
caution and take it easy, but there are also those who drink and drive in
the rain no less. Someone trashed it out here tonight. Fortunately, no one
was seriously injured. Now, he gets a hospital stay and maybe some jail
time.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Your live-in, D'Plume?


Was once snorkelling in a spring and a manatee came up and obviously
wanted to be scratched. We tried to stay away from it but it kept
coming up to us.

Frogwatch[_2_] February 26th 10 03:41 PM

manatee speed zone?
 
On Feb 26, 10:37*am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 26, 12:44*am, TopBassDog wrote:



On Feb 25, 1:30*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:


wrote in message


.. .


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:10:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:57:36 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:27:54 -0500, wrote:


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:06:55 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:17:10 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...-national-park...


Wow, speed zones through a national park.... what a novel idea! I bet
they even have those in Colorado Nation Parks.


I bet it isn't 5 MPH


It probably should be....


What sort of idiot would go blasting through an area, knowing that
they would likely hit wildlife (or anything else)?


Even by car, every day/night I go slow .... really slow .... through
areas I reasonably suspect are populated by deer, wild turkey, bear,
buzzard, etc.


With the boat, I don't want to hit a whale, manatee, sand bar,
submarine (yep, that "amber flashing light" *does* mean something) or
anything else...... slow the hell down.....


.... quit whining and pull back on the throttle.....


Bear in mind we are talking about around a thousand square miles of
water in the estuary system in these 3 counties, not just a little
strip on the way to the Gulf.
There are people who have to idle up to 5 miles to get out. That tacks
2 hours onto your boat ride by the time you get home.


Such is the cost of enjoying nature... slow down, smell the seaweed
instead
of the engine.


I am really not the guy you people are hollaring at, we go pretty slow
most of the time but I also understand people who want to get offshore
to fish do not want to be chugging across the bay for 2 hours. It
should be pointed out, this came about after they bought their house,
assuming they had "gulf access" which they paid an extra $200,000 for.
The ironic thing is nobody has even proven these zones are saving
anything. It is just a feel good thing. If the water is less than 3
feet deep, you won't have any manatee there, at least none with their
ass under water, yet vast areas like that are still manatee zones.
As I said a while ago, these are politically selected, not
scientifically selected.


I wouldn't be the one yelling, but I see your point. I think it's probably a
combo between science and "unnatural" selection. As with most things, it's
an imperfect system. I would think that most people would err on the side of
caution and take it easy, but there are also those who drink and drive in
the rain no less. Someone trashed it out here tonight. Fortunately, no one
was seriously injured. Now, he gets a hospital stay and maybe some jail
time.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Your live-in, D'Plume?


Was once snorkelling in a spring and a manatee came up and obviously
wanted to be scratched. *We tried to stay away from it but it kept
coming up to us.


Here is a reference to the high pitched noisemaker to repel manatees.
Maybe if boats had these the speed limits in manatee zones could be
lifted.

Jack[_3_] February 26th 10 06:39 PM

manatee speed zone?
 
On Feb 26, 10:37*am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 26, 12:44*am, TopBassDog wrote:





On Feb 25, 1:30*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:


wrote in message


.. .


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:10:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:57:36 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:27:54 -0500, wrote:


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:06:55 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:17:10 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...-national-park...


Wow, speed zones through a national park.... what a novel idea! I bet
they even have those in Colorado Nation Parks.


I bet it isn't 5 MPH


It probably should be....


What sort of idiot would go blasting through an area, knowing that
they would likely hit wildlife (or anything else)?


Even by car, every day/night I go slow .... really slow .... through
areas I reasonably suspect are populated by deer, wild turkey, bear,
buzzard, etc.


With the boat, I don't want to hit a whale, manatee, sand bar,
submarine (yep, that "amber flashing light" *does* mean something) or
anything else...... slow the hell down.....


.... quit whining and pull back on the throttle.....


Bear in mind we are talking about around a thousand square miles of
water in the estuary system in these 3 counties, not just a little
strip on the way to the Gulf.
There are people who have to idle up to 5 miles to get out. That tacks
2 hours onto your boat ride by the time you get home.


Such is the cost of enjoying nature... slow down, smell the seaweed
instead
of the engine.


I am really not the guy you people are hollaring at, we go pretty slow
most of the time but I also understand people who want to get offshore
to fish do not want to be chugging across the bay for 2 hours. It
should be pointed out, this came about after they bought their house,
assuming they had "gulf access" which they paid an extra $200,000 for.
The ironic thing is nobody has even proven these zones are saving
anything. It is just a feel good thing. If the water is less than 3
feet deep, you won't have any manatee there, at least none with their
ass under water, yet vast areas like that are still manatee zones.
As I said a while ago, these are politically selected, not
scientifically selected.


I wouldn't be the one yelling, but I see your point. I think it's probably a
combo between science and "unnatural" selection. As with most things, it's
an imperfect system. I would think that most people would err on the side of
caution and take it easy, but there are also those who drink and drive in
the rain no less. Someone trashed it out here tonight. Fortunately, no one
was seriously injured. Now, he gets a hospital stay and maybe some jail
time.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Your live-in, D'Plume?


Was once snorkelling in a spring and a manatee came up and obviously
wanted to be scratched. *We tried to stay away from it but it kept
coming up to us.


Is manatee scratching a common thing?

Frogwatch[_2_] February 26th 10 07:36 PM

manatee speed zone?
 
On Feb 26, 1:39*pm, Jack wrote:
On Feb 26, 10:37*am, Frogwatch wrote:



On Feb 26, 12:44*am, TopBassDog wrote:


On Feb 25, 1:30*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:


wrote in message


.. .


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:10:44 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:57:36 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:27:54 -0500, wrote:


On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:06:55 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 05:17:10 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


OK, so when do they get a "Manatee Crossing Zone?"


http://www.nationalparkstraveler.com...-national-park...


Wow, speed zones through a national park.... what a novel idea! I bet
they even have those in Colorado Nation Parks.


I bet it isn't 5 MPH


It probably should be....


What sort of idiot would go blasting through an area, knowing that
they would likely hit wildlife (or anything else)?


Even by car, every day/night I go slow .... really slow .... through
areas I reasonably suspect are populated by deer, wild turkey, bear,
buzzard, etc.


With the boat, I don't want to hit a whale, manatee, sand bar,
submarine (yep, that "amber flashing light" *does* mean something) or
anything else...... slow the hell down.....


.... quit whining and pull back on the throttle.....


Bear in mind we are talking about around a thousand square miles of
water in the estuary system in these 3 counties, not just a little
strip on the way to the Gulf.
There are people who have to idle up to 5 miles to get out. That tacks
2 hours onto your boat ride by the time you get home.


Such is the cost of enjoying nature... slow down, smell the seaweed
instead
of the engine.


I am really not the guy you people are hollaring at, we go pretty slow
most of the time but I also understand people who want to get offshore
to fish do not want to be chugging across the bay for 2 hours. It
should be pointed out, this came about after they bought their house,
assuming they had "gulf access" which they paid an extra $200,000 for.
The ironic thing is nobody has even proven these zones are saving
anything. It is just a feel good thing. If the water is less than 3
feet deep, you won't have any manatee there, at least none with their
ass under water, yet vast areas like that are still manatee zones..
As I said a while ago, these are politically selected, not
scientifically selected.


I wouldn't be the one yelling, but I see your point. I think it's probably a
combo between science and "unnatural" selection. As with most things, it's
an imperfect system. I would think that most people would err on the side of
caution and take it easy, but there are also those who drink and drive in
the rain no less. Someone trashed it out here tonight. Fortunately, no one
was seriously injured. Now, he gets a hospital stay and maybe some jail
time.


--
Nom=de=Plume


Your live-in, D'Plume?


Was once snorkelling in a spring and a manatee came up and obviously
wanted to be scratched. *We tried to stay away from it but it kept
coming up to us.


Is manatee scratching a common thing?


I have heard that nearly tame ones in Kings Bay near Crystal River
like humans to scratch them. From there to where we encountered this
one is only about 130 miles.

Wayne.B February 27th 10 12:05 AM

manatee speed zone?
 
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:39:21 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:

Was once snorkelling in a spring and a manatee came up and obviously
wanted to be scratched. *We tried to stay away from it but it kept
coming up to us.


Is manatee scratching a common thing?


What is fairly common, is peeople giving them fresh water from a
garden hose. Manatees really like that and come to expect it from
other people. They usually lay on their backs and just guzzle it in.

I'd be concerned about attracting them to the neighborhood. They have
incredibly bad halatosis and if one got killed nearby we'd probably
get swarmed by a new round of lobbying efforts. People who like
manatees should adopt one for a pet.

Tim February 27th 10 02:15 PM

manatee speed zone?
 
On Feb 26, 6:05*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:39:21 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:

Was once snorkelling in a spring and a manatee came up and obviously
wanted to be scratched. We tried to stay away from it but it kept
coming up to us.


Is manatee scratching a common thing?


What is fairly common, is peeople giving them fresh water from a
garden hose. *Manatees really like that and come to expect it from
other people. *They usually lay on their backs and just guzzle it in.

I'd be concerned about attracting them to the neighborhood. *They have
incredibly bad halatosis and if one got killed nearby we'd probably
get swarmed by a new round of lobbying efforts. *People who like
manatees should adopt one for a pet.


That makes sense to me, Wayne..

Jack[_3_] February 27th 10 03:56 PM

manatee speed zone?
 
On Feb 26, 7:05*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:39:21 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:

Was once snorkelling in a spring and a manatee came up and obviously
wanted to be scratched. We tried to stay away from it but it kept
coming up to us.


Is manatee scratching a common thing?


What is fairly common, is peeople giving them fresh water from a
garden hose. *Manatees really like that and come to expect it from
other people. *They usually lay on their backs and just guzzle it in.

I'd be concerned about attracting them to the neighborhood. *They have
incredibly bad halatosis and if one got killed nearby we'd probably
get swarmed by a new round of lobbying efforts. *People who like
manatees should adopt one for a pet.


Halatosis? You've been way to close to a manatee, Wayne. :-)

John H[_13_] February 27th 10 04:03 PM

manatee speed zone?
 
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 07:56:28 -0800, Jack wrote:

On Feb 26, 7:05*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:39:21 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:

Was once snorkelling in a spring and a manatee came up and obviously
wanted to be scratched. We tried to stay away from it but it kept
coming up to us.


Is manatee scratching a common thing?


What is fairly common, is peeople giving them fresh water from a
garden hose. *Manatees really like that and come to expect it from
other people. *They usually lay on their backs and just guzzle it in.

I'd be concerned about attracting them to the neighborhood. *They have
incredibly bad halatosis and if one got killed nearby we'd probably
get swarmed by a new round of lobbying efforts. *People who like
manatees should adopt one for a pet.


Halatosis? You've been way to close to a manatee, Wayne. :-)


You don't have to swim very far to kiss them when you're done, as you know.



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