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Frogwatch[_2_] February 10th 10 03:35 PM

Anchors made from -G10
 
Danforth makes a light weight anchor of aluminum so why not one made
from G10? It'd be lightweight fer sure and sure would not corrode.
Yeah, you'd prob have to weight the flukes to get em to set right but
I hear that the lightweight danforths have a problem skimming over the
bottom too without setting but once set are great.

John H[_12_] February 10th 10 06:32 PM

Anchors made from -G10
 
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:35:20 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Danforth makes a light weight anchor of aluminum so why not one made
from G10? It'd be lightweight fer sure and sure would not corrode.
Yeah, you'd prob have to weight the flukes to get em to set right but
I hear that the lightweight danforths have a problem skimming over the
bottom too without setting but once set are great.


If the rode's too short or there's not enough chain, they will often
not set properly.
--

John H

nom=de=plume February 10th 10 08:00 PM

Anchors made from -G10
 
"John H" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:35:20 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Danforth makes a light weight anchor of aluminum so why not one made
from G10? It'd be lightweight fer sure and sure would not corrode.
Yeah, you'd prob have to weight the flukes to get em to set right but
I hear that the lightweight danforths have a problem skimming over the
bottom too without setting but once set are great.


If the rode's too short or there's not enough chain, they will often
not set properly.
--

John H



I have limited experience with setting an anchor myself, but from what I
observed a few times, the angle of the line from the boat to the bottom is
what's important... maybe 30 deg.? Something like that. How would lots of
chain make up for the angle, except with it piling up on top of the anchor?

--
Nom=de=Plume



Harry[_2_] February 10th 10 08:01 PM

Anchors made from -G10
 
On 2/10/10 3:00 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"John wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:35:20 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Danforth makes a light weight anchor of aluminum so why not one made
from G10? It'd be lightweight fer sure and sure would not corrode.
Yeah, you'd prob have to weight the flukes to get em to set right but
I hear that the lightweight danforths have a problem skimming over the
bottom too without setting but once set are great.


If the rode's too short or there's not enough chain, they will often
not set properly.
--

John H



I have limited experience with setting an anchor myself, but from what I
observed a few times, the angle of the line from the boat to the bottom is
what's important... maybe 30 deg.? Something like that. How would lots of
chain make up for the angle, except with it piling up on top of the anchor?



You're asking herring? snerk

Harry[_2_] February 10th 10 08:22 PM

Anchors made from -G10
 
Harry wrote:
On 2/10/10 3:00 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"John wrote in message
...
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:35:20 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Danforth makes a light weight anchor of aluminum so why not one made
from G10? It'd be lightweight fer sure and sure would not corrode.
Yeah, you'd prob have to weight the flukes to get em to set right but
I hear that the lightweight danforths have a problem skimming over the
bottom too without setting but once set are great.

If the rode's too short or there's not enough chain, they will often
not set properly.
--

John H



I have limited experience with setting an anchor myself, but from what I
observed a few times, the angle of the line from the boat to the
bottom is
what's important... maybe 30 deg.? Something like that. How would lots of
chain make up for the angle, except with it piling up on top of the
anchor?



You're asking herring? snerk


It's OK for you to answer if you can.

Frogwatch February 11th 10 01:02 AM

Anchors made from -G10
 
On Feb 10, 12:22*pm, Harry wrote:
Harry wrote:
On 2/10/10 3:00 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"John *wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:35:20 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
*wrote:


Danforth makes a light weight anchor of aluminum so why not one made
from G10? *It'd be lightweight fer sure and sure would not corrode..
Yeah, you'd prob have to weight the flukes to get em to set right but
I hear that the lightweight danforths have a problem skimming over the
bottom too without setting but once set are great.


If the rode's too short or there's not enough chain, they will often
not set properly.
--


John H


I have limited experience with setting an anchor myself, but from what I
observed a few times, the angle of the line from the boat to the
bottom is
what's important... maybe 30 deg.? Something like that. How would lots of
chain make up for the angle, except with it piling up on top of the
anchor?


You're asking herring? *snerk


It's OK for you to answer if you can.


You really want the pull to be horizontal and your rode (rope) makes a
catenary curve with the end tangent to the bottom. Chain flattens the
catenary causing the pull to be more horizontal. I am really trying
to make the whole thing lighter although more chain might be easier to
haul than a heavy anchor. Perhaps a "kellet", that is a weight on the
rode near the anchor to force the pull to be more horizontal would
help with a lightweight anchor.

nom=de=plume February 11th 10 01:32 AM

Anchors made from -G10
 
"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Feb 10, 12:22 pm, Harry wrote:
Harry wrote:
On 2/10/10 3:00 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"John wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:35:20 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:


Danforth makes a light weight anchor of aluminum so why not one made
from G10? It'd be lightweight fer sure and sure would not corrode.
Yeah, you'd prob have to weight the flukes to get em to set right but
I hear that the lightweight danforths have a problem skimming over
the
bottom too without setting but once set are great.


If the rode's too short or there's not enough chain, they will often
not set properly.
--


John H


I have limited experience with setting an anchor myself, but from what
I
observed a few times, the angle of the line from the boat to the
bottom is
what's important... maybe 30 deg.? Something like that. How would lots
of
chain make up for the angle, except with it piling up on top of the
anchor?


You're asking herring? snerk


It's OK for you to answer if you can.


You really want the pull to be horizontal and your rode (rope) makes a
catenary curve with the end tangent to the bottom. Chain flattens the
catenary causing the pull to be more horizontal. I am really trying
to make the whole thing lighter although more chain might be easier to
haul than a heavy anchor. Perhaps a "kellet", that is a weight on the
rode near the anchor to force the pull to be more horizontal would
help with a lightweight anchor.


Reply: Right... thanks for the details. I understand. I was just questioning
the "or" part of the comment, since it's as you say the horizonal. It sounds
like the cantenary would help in absorbing stress which would pull up the
anchor, at least that's what I understand.

--
Nom=de=Plume



John H[_2_] February 11th 10 02:15 AM

Anchors made from -G10
 
On Feb 10, 8:02*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 10, 12:22*pm, Harry wrote:



Harry wrote:
On 2/10/10 3:00 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"John *wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:35:20 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
*wrote:


Danforth makes a light weight anchor of aluminum so why not one made
from G10? *It'd be lightweight fer sure and sure would not corrode.
Yeah, you'd prob have to weight the flukes to get em to set right but
I hear that the lightweight danforths have a problem skimming over the
bottom too without setting but once set are great.


If the rode's too short or there's not enough chain, they will often
not set properly.
--


John H


I have limited experience with setting an anchor myself, but from what I
observed a few times, the angle of the line from the boat to the
bottom is
what's important... maybe 30 deg.? Something like that. How would lots of
chain make up for the angle, except with it piling up on top of the
anchor?


You're asking herring? *snerk


It's OK for you to answer if you can.


You really want the pull to be horizontal and your rode (rope) makes a
catenary curve with the end tangent to the bottom. *Chain flattens the
catenary causing the pull to be more horizontal. *I am really trying
to make the whole thing lighter although more chain might be easier to
haul than a heavy anchor. *Perhaps a "kellet", that is a weight on the
rode near the anchor to force the pull to be more horizontal would
help with a lightweight anchor.


My guess would be that a 'kellet' would do the same thing the chain
would. I use chain, about 8 feet. I've never had a problem with the
chain piling up on the anchor as someone suggested.

Wayne.B February 11th 10 02:39 AM

Anchors made from -G10
 
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 07:35:20 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Danforth makes a light weight anchor of aluminum so why not one made
from G10? It'd be lightweight fer sure and sure would not corrode.
Yeah, you'd prob have to weight the flukes to get em to set right but
I hear that the lightweight danforths have a problem skimming over the
bottom too without setting but once set are great.


Weight counts for a lot with an anchor. It improves the ability of
the anchor to get down quickly, and to penetrate the bottom quickly.
There is really no substitute for weight that is totally adequate.
Light weight anchors are fine once they are set properly but
everything up until that point is a compromise.


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