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Tim January 31st 10 02:22 AM

I didn't know Evinrude made a Wankel outboard?
 
http://boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8780

Prototyped it into a racing engine, and was blowing Mercury away.

It's a shame they didn't have the time and finances to really develop
it.

http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/37...600x600Q85.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/...d1dd521590.jpg

Tim January 31st 10 02:25 AM

I didn't know Evinrude made a Wankel outboard?
 
On Jan 30, 8:22*pm, Tim wrote:
http://boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8780

Prototyped it into a racing engine, and was blowing Mercury away.

It's a shame they didn't have the time and finances to really develop
it.

http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/37...8696S600x600Q8...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/...d1dd521590.jpg


Well I think somebody did put it into production in small 10 h.
models, but i wonder why it never caught on? and went the way of the
NSU and Mazda?

Even Yamaha and Suzuki tried them in motorcycles and they dropped as
soon as they were introduced, it seems.

thunder January 31st 10 03:17 AM

I didn't know Evinrude made a Wankel outboard?
 
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:25:15 -0800, Tim wrote:

On Jan 30, 8:22Â*pm, Tim wrote:
http://boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8780

Prototyped it into a racing engine, and was blowing Mercury away.

It's a shame they didn't have the time and finances to really develop
it.

http://

inlinethumb15.webshots.com/37902/2415984520091848696S600x600Q8...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/...d1dd521590.jpg


Well I think somebody did put it into production in small 10 h. models,
but i wonder why it never caught on? and went the way of the NSU and
Mazda?

Even Yamaha and Suzuki tried them in motorcycles and they dropped as
soon as they were introduced, it seems.


Pretty much for the same reasons you don't see two-stroke motorcycles
anymore, fuel consumption and emissions.

Loogypicker[_2_] January 31st 10 01:39 PM

I didn't know Evinrude made a Wankel outboard?
 
On Jan 30, 9:25*pm, Tim wrote:
On Jan 30, 8:22*pm, Tim wrote:

http://boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8780


Prototyped it into a racing engine, and was blowing Mercury away.


It's a shame they didn't have the time and finances to really develop
it.


http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/37...8696S600x600Q8...


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/...d1dd521590.jpg


Well I think somebody did put it into production in small 10 h.
models, but i wonder why it never caught on? and went the way of the
NSU and Mazda?

Even Yamaha and Suzuki tried them in motorcycles and they dropped as
soon as they were introduced, it seems.


For awhile I had an Arctic Cat snowmobile with a Wankel in it. Torque
out the ass but slow getting wound up!

Harry[_2_] January 31st 10 01:45 PM

I didn't know Evinrude made a Wankel outboard?
 
On 1/31/10 8:39 AM, Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 30, 9:25 pm, wrote:
On Jan 30, 8:22 pm, wrote:

http://boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8780


Prototyped it into a racing engine, and was blowing Mercury away.


It's a shame they didn't have the time and finances to really develop
it.


http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/37...8696S600x600Q8...


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/...d1dd521590.jpg


Well I think somebody did put it into production in small 10 h.
models, but i wonder why it never caught on? and went the way of the
NSU and Mazda?

Even Yamaha and Suzuki tried them in motorcycles and they dropped as
soon as they were introduced, it seems.


For awhile I had an Arctic Cat snowmobile with a Wankel in it. Torque
out the ass but slow getting wound up!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhpelDiwcvo

TopBassDog January 31st 10 02:01 PM

I didn't know Evinrude made a Wankel outboard?
 
On Jan 31, 7:45*am, Harry wrote:
On 1/31/10 8:39 AM, Loogypicker wrote:



On Jan 30, 9:25 pm, *wrote:
On Jan 30, 8:22 pm, *wrote:


http://boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8780


Prototyped it into a racing engine, and was blowing Mercury away.


It's a shame they didn't have the time and finances to really develop
it.


http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/37...8696S600x600Q8....


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/...d1dd521590.jpg


Well I think somebody did put it into production in small 10 h.
models, but i wonder why it never caught on? and went the way of the
NSU and Mazda?


Even Yamaha and Suzuki tried them in motorcycles and they dropped as
soon as they were introduced, it seems.


For awhile I had an Arctic Cat snowmobile with a Wankel in it. Torque
out the ass but slow getting wound up!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhpelDiwcvo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9blhXzKhAE

Harry[_2_] January 31st 10 02:12 PM

I didn't know Evinrude made a Wankel outboard?
 
Harry wrote:
On 1/31/10 8:39 AM, Loogypicker wrote:
On Jan 30, 9:25 pm, wrote:
On Jan 30, 8:22 pm, wrote:

http://boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8780

Prototyped it into a racing engine, and was blowing Mercury away.

It's a shame they didn't have the time and finances to really develop
it.

http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/37...8696S600x600Q8...


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/...d1dd521590.jpg

Well I think somebody did put it into production in small 10 h.
models, but i wonder why it never caught on? and went the way of the
NSU and Mazda?

Even Yamaha and Suzuki tried them in motorcycles and they dropped as
soon as they were introduced, it seems.


For awhile I had an Arctic Cat snowmobile with a Wankel in it. Torque
out the ass but slow getting wound up!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhpelDiwcvo


You are a disgusting piece of ****.

mmc January 31st 10 02:26 PM

I didn't know Evinrude made a Wankel outboard?
 

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:22:49 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

http://boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8780

Prototyped it into a racing engine, and was blowing Mercury away.

It's a shame they didn't have the time and finances to really develop
it.

http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/37...600x600Q85.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/...d1dd521590.jpg


I always heard the weakness was the rotor seals


An old GF in Virginia Beach had an RX-7 and one day it just didn't start. I
remember it had some miles on it, but not close to 100k.
She was told by Mazda mech that rebuilt the motor that once the
seal/compression ring thing wears, you get no compression and no more zoom
zoom zoom.



Canuck57[_9_] January 31st 10 03:52 PM

I didn't know Evinrude made a Wankel outboard?
 
On 31/01/2010 7:26 AM, mmc wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:22:49 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

http://boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8780

Prototyped it into a racing engine, and was blowing Mercury away.

It's a shame they didn't have the time and finances to really develop
it.

http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/37...600x600Q85.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/...d1dd521590.jpg


I always heard the weakness was the rotor seals


An old GF in Virginia Beach had an RX-7 and one day it just didn't start. I
remember it had some miles on it, but not close to 100k.
She was told by Mazda mech that rebuilt the motor that once the
seal/compression ring thing wears, you get no compression and no more zoom
zoom zoom.


But power to weight ratio is real good. What was the gas mileage like?


Harry[_2_] January 31st 10 03:54 PM

I didn't know Evinrude made a Wankel outboard?
 
On 1/31/10 10:52 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 31/01/2010 7:26 AM, mmc wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:22:49 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

http://boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8780

Prototyped it into a racing engine, and was blowing Mercury away.

It's a shame they didn't have the time and finances to really develop
it.

http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/37...600x600Q85.jpg


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/...d1dd521590.jpg

I always heard the weakness was the rotor seals


An old GF in Virginia Beach had an RX-7 and one day it just didn't
start. I
remember it had some miles on it, but not close to 100k.
She was told by Mazda mech that rebuilt the motor that once the
seal/compression ring thing wears, you get no compression and no more
zoom
zoom zoom.


But power to weight ratio is real good. What was the gas mileage like?



It was very high when the car wasn't running. Otherwise, nicht so gut.

CalifBill January 31st 10 11:31 PM

I didn't know Evinrude made a Wankel outboard?
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
http://boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8780

Prototyped it into a racing engine, and was blowing Mercury away.

It's a shame they didn't have the time and finances to really develop
it.

http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/37...600x600Q85.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/...d1dd521590.jpg


They made Evenrude snowmobiles with the Wankle. My dad had the 35 hp model
and they made a 45 hp model. I think they were way underated for
Horsepower.



CalifBill January 31st 10 11:33 PM

I didn't know Evinrude made a Wankel outboard?
 

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:25:15 -0800, Tim wrote:

On Jan 30, 8:22 pm, Tim wrote:
http://boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8780

Prototyped it into a racing engine, and was blowing Mercury away.

It's a shame they didn't have the time and finances to really develop
it.

http://

inlinethumb15.webshots.com/37902/2415984520091848696S600x600Q8...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/...d1dd521590.jpg

Well I think somebody did put it into production in small 10 h. models,
but i wonder why it never caught on? and went the way of the NSU and
Mazda?

Even Yamaha and Suzuki tried them in motorcycles and they dropped as
soon as they were introduced, it seems.


Pretty much for the same reasons you don't see two-stroke motorcycles
anymore, fuel consumption and emissions.


Yeah, but the two strokes are soooooo much more fun;)

Scotty


They were sort of a two stroke, in you mixed the oil. What was more fun
about a 2 stroke. Lots of power, and the snowmobile had fantastic
acceleration and speed.



CalifBill January 31st 10 11:36 PM

I didn't know Evinrude made a Wankel outboard?
 

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:22:49 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

http://boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8780

Prototyped it into a racing engine, and was blowing Mercury away.

It's a shame they didn't have the time and finances to really develop
it.

http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/37...600x600Q85.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/...d1dd521590.jpg


I always heard the weakness was the rotor seals


thjey eventually got great rotor tip seals. end seals were not a problem.
Emissions were the worst part. Wankel engineer talked to my engineering
class at San Francisco State and said all the changes for emissions reduced
the power and mileage lots.



Harry[_2_] February 1st 10 12:29 AM

I didn't know Evinrude made a Wankel outboard?
 
On 1/31/10 6:33 PM, CalifBill wrote:
"I am wrote in message
...
In ,
says...

On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:25:15 -0800, Tim wrote:

On Jan 30, 8:22 pm, wrote:
http://boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8780

Prototyped it into a racing engine, and was blowing Mercury away.

It's a shame they didn't have the time and finances to really develop
it.

http://
inlinethumb15.webshots.com/37902/2415984520091848696S600x600Q8...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/...d1dd521590.jpg

Well I think somebody did put it into production in small 10 h. models,
but i wonder why it never caught on? and went the way of the NSU and
Mazda?

Even Yamaha and Suzuki tried them in motorcycles and they dropped as
soon as they were introduced, it seems.

Pretty much for the same reasons you don't see two-stroke motorcycles
anymore, fuel consumption and emissions.


Yeah, but the two strokes are soooooo much more fun;)

Scotty


They were sort of a two stroke, in you mixed the oil. What was more fun
about a 2 stroke. Lots of power, and the snowmobile had fantastic
acceleration and speed.




The old "pre-emission controls" two strokes were fun. The new ones,
overly complex and not so much fun. And the stench of that modern two
stroke oil...phew.

Loogypicker[_2_] February 1st 10 01:48 PM

I didn't know Evinrude made a Wankel outboard?
 
On Jan 31, 6:31*pm, "CalifBill" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...

http://boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8780


Prototyped it into a racing engine, and was blowing Mercury away.


It's a shame they didn't have the time and finances to really develop
it.


http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/37...8696S600x600Q8...


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/...d1dd521590.jpg


They made Evenrude snowmobiles with the Wankle. *My dad had the 35 hp model
and they made a 45 hp model. *I think they were way underated for
Horsepower.


My Arctic Cat was the 35hp version. Again, lots of torque and low end
performance.

Tim February 1st 10 07:53 PM

I didn't know Evinrude made a Wankel outboard?
 
On Jan 31, 5:36*pm, "CalifBill" wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:22:49 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


http://boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8780


Prototyped it into a racing engine, and was blowing Mercury away.


It's a shame they didn't have the time and finances to really develop
it.


http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/37...8696S600x600Q8....


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/...d1dd521590.jpg


I always heard the weakness was the rotor seals


thjey eventually got great rotor tip seals. *end seals were not a problem.
Emissions were the worst part. *Wankel engineer talked to my engineering
class at San Francisco State and said all the changes for emissions reduced
the power and mileage lots.


I think that R&D could have developed the engine design into being
qite a contender ...eventually. But it would have taken too long for
market etc, and with the newer technology advances, somebody could
probably still do something with it and make it effective.

CalifBill February 2nd 10 06:08 AM

I didn't know Evinrude made a Wankel outboard?
 

"Loogypicker" wrote in message
...
On Jan 31, 6:31 pm, "CalifBill" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

...

http://boatracingfacts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8780


Prototyped it into a racing engine, and was blowing Mercury away.


It's a shame they didn't have the time and finances to really develop
it.


http://inlinethumb15.webshots.com/37...8696S600x600Q8...


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1380/...d1dd521590.jpg


They made Evenrude snowmobiles with the Wankle. My dad had the 35 hp model
and they made a 45 hp model. I think they were way underated for
Horsepower.


My Arctic Cat was the 35hp version. Again, lots of torque and low end
performance.

The evenrude machine had the continously variable transmission system, so
lots of omph through all the range.




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